itsme01:



na the problem wey una get be that... Osun doesnt even owe one month not to talk of 36 months, Aregbeshola unlike KeroIkpeazulezu and Yeye Bello paid every workers monthly atleast 50% to 70% of their Salary and Pension during Nigerian Oil crisis unlinke Your own state Governor that simply owes everyone for upto a year, osun workers got something, and after the payment of Paris refund the 30% owed where paid instantly

This method of augumented salary was the reason why Osun had a healthy economy through out the Oil crisis...

again less than 5% of Osun indegene are civil servants.. most of Osun people are silent industrilist like (the Adelekes) Mega farmers, and Tourism experts (Osun oshogbo festival)

and lastly (although this is really bad) if you google the city with the highest cyber crime in Nigeria you would find oshogbo toping all charts, their youths are crazily and stupidly rich, if you visist any bank in Osun the cashier/teller staff handling withdrawal and deposit hardly gets much cue unlike that of the agent handling foreign transfer
.

Shatapp with all these nonsense, there was no oil crisis in nigeria. Only osun state owed 36 months salary back den, things were okay in other Nigerian states. At a point osun state became an idp camp and rich men across nigeria rushed to the state and brought bags of food for them.



""if you google the city with the highest cyber crime in Nigeria you would find oshogbo toping all charts""

The problem with yoruba is that they sit in ogbomosho and assume one nonsense or the other about other parts of Nigeria, please don't say this nonsense again

This is informative

itsme01:



No we are not, its time to stop being decieved and face fact


we either borrow to fix our infrastructural deficit ($200 billion)and become a producing economy, or remain 200 million peasant farmers that relly on mere 2.5mbpd crude when Saudi has 11mbpd for 40 million rich arab and US has 14 for 300 million rich americans

US borrowed to fix critical infrastructure and investors and inventors started rushing in, Dubai and UAE borrowed to fix their desert shithole and now its Middle Eastern Economic hub

While developers make noise online, for this quater they couldnt get one kobo as FDI, while SouthWest got $5.6billion in 2 months, even Makinde pulled in millions of Dollars

the pathetic leeches and the chest beaters all have states battling with intense poverty, yet they focus on SouthWest without significant poverty

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injustice is a major factor

if you are in Nigeria and refuse to point out the reason why it is so then you are a dumb bigot
Southern part of Nigeria has several seas shores, but FG as controlled by the north over the years refused to develop it this is just an example

ebennich:

So what should we do? Should we kill all those leaders because obviously they can't change? We talk but never act, we need to take actions. Let's all stand up for our nation, we can't accomplish anything by complaining.
We must force them to resign or fix our nation, we must start now. What is the use of a fighting spirit if all you do is fight for just yourself?
Nigeria is still a slave nation, we are yet to fight for our freedom, green white green was a fraud. Those white monsters still rule from underneath. Fucking wake up!!!

Even though you spoke the hard truth but the same people you clamour for and fight for will be the ones to sell you out at the very sight of money. What happened to people like Fela, Saro, and also see what is happening to Sowore. The worst part of the whole scenario is that the very people who need help and at the heart of poverty are die-hard supporters of these evil people. Even here on Nairaland, it's uncountable the number persons against sowore. The sinking ship cannot be saved. It takes a joint, mass movement to change the current realities.

rusher14:


Likely in dollar terms.

In dollar terms
Maximum we have is 20000....

$1M = NGN 362m



Most people we call wealyhy in Nigeria have their individual total assets fall between 50m to 150m

nazram1:


Flat head .in one of the state in South were no any achievement by the governor except sharing kerosene and stealing public fund, the worst part is tha CAN will continue to support him

Atleast you still got some formal education, I hope you would do good for your peoples sake, this thread is preaching against ethnic and religious bias which impairs your judgement and decisions. Learn to stand for the truth no matter your background.

veeshock:

Atleast you still got some formal education, I hope you would do good for your peoples sake, this thread is preaching against ethnic and religious bias which impairs your judgement and decisions. Learn to stand for the truth no matter your background.

which truth is that what you are taught in school or home, to come and be insulting people's religion day & night just bcs u are grand master of hate. Learn to respect others choice (religion) and don't HATE bcs it will affect u in many ways, HATE is ILNESS

Hedonisco:
Facts. But contrary to your suggestion on "what should we do", I think there's only one solution: enthronement of meritocracy.

Meritocracy would change everything.

This prevailing national culture of creating artificial hurdles for talents, and elevating mediocre idiots to undeserved positions et cetera is the only reason why Nigeria remains stuck in the cesspit of stagnation. Call it nepotism, call it quota system, call it a perverse culture of "grace and favour", its all the same thing.

Only the best and brightest should get whatever opening there is - jobs, contracts, etc. Across both public and private spheres. It's really that simple.

You have spoken well

faoogoke:
The calculators of our Per Capital Income keep making the same mistake. Calculating our per capital income against a population figure of whatever now...160 million or is it 200 million mess it all up. Nigerian's population is between 130 million and 140 million. The poverty, diseases, deaths etc issues Nigeria has is principally in the northern part of Nigeria. Remove the Northern part of the country from the calculations and Nigeria's per capital will be the highest in Africa.
The Northern part of the country and its leaders need to do a lot more for their people. The poverty here is terrible. There is widespread illiteracy and lack. Its such a sad commentary, that;s however not to excuse leaders of the Southern part who are also guilty of neglecting the common good of the people.

The bolded is NOT true


It will boost our per capita

But it cannot be the highest

PHijo:


1. China has a clear majority( 90% han Chinese)
2. Authoritarian system
3. Educated leaders
4. A workforce that was ready to work long hours


All of these have lacked in Nigeria. When Nigeria had authoritarian regimes or leaders it was all about self, religion or ethnic hegemony.

No country with Nigeria's current structure and mindset can make significant progress.

It's the mindset
Not the structure

We have a similar structure as Switzerland

Different nations under one roof


Are they not managing

Skmoda360:

You sound like a "bad computer" with good analysis about Nigeria mismanaged system.
When I say "bad computer" you are analysing about a country that the rich always find every possibilities to frustrate the effort of hustling less privilege people in the country...I can't really type cuz I'm lazy at that .....I'm really pissed about lot of things going on in this country....... there is nothing you can do about this shit bro....except God intervene and mind you God won't come down, he will definitely use one of us to deliver this nation but that day is yet unknown for now...finger crossed and au voire.

the elite class in Nigeria has to be among the most WICKED and ruthless in the world

nazram1:


which truth is that what you are taught in school or home, to come and be insulting people's religion day & night just bcs u are grand master of hate. Learn to respect others choice (religion) and don't HATE bcs it will affect u in many ways, HATE is ILNESS

If speaking against your dehumanizing almajiri system producing millions of paupers littering the street is what you call hate then be my guest. What has muric and your shariah chief justice done about the crisis? Instead they only concerned about public holidays, shariah, etc and with your education you see nothing worrisome about that trend other than "HATE"...tell me you dont hate the truth. If we all focused on harnessing our resources would your leaders be so wasteful and careless.

anonimi:


Does Europe and America have authoritarian system and are they ethnically homogenous?
Keep looking for excuses instead of getting up and doing the needful work to enlighten and develop our country.
Your eyes go soon clear when China colonises us brutally.


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Facts

DexterousOne:


the elite class in Nigeria has to be among the most WICKED and ruthless in the world

Did you just say has to be

Skmoda360:

Did you just said has to be

Yea

Did I make a mistake?

Correct me

Rosskii:


Do you know that in some communities in Germany, Holland etc, they completely rejected public power supply and developed their own renewable energy based supply to feed in each case, say 2000 homes?[b] I don't see why we can't have private companies springing up to provide that service here. [/b]There are so many way to generate electricity using renewable energy sources, and it's not just solar. Heck, you can create electricity from cow dung.

That is because it is illegal do so

Remember Barth Nnaji

How did he end?

Nigeria does not want, and is not ready for good things

Religion and foolishness has blocked all sensibilities

DexterousOne:


It's the mindset
Not the structure

We have a similar structure as Switzerland

Different nations under one roof


Are they not managing

How is our structure similar to Switzerland?

I would want to believe the issue is your choice of words.

The Swiss practice a considerable level of autonomy. That is lacking in Nigeria.

The whole country is feeding fat on the sweat, blood and land of the oil producing ethnic nations in Nigeria.

PHijo:

How is our structure similar to Switzerland?

I would want to believe the issue is your choice of words.

The Swiss practice a considerable level of autonomy. That is lacking in Nigeria.

The whole country is feeding fat on the sweat, blood and land of the oil producing ethnic nations in Nigeria.

Even the so called ethnic minorities are lazy
They are nowhere in the oil producing value chain

It's all foreigners
All we collect is economic rent
Let's be clear on that

It's not lije the Niger delta are working day and night and the govt is stealing their earnings

That said
When I said Switzerland has Similar structure to Nigeria
I meant the demographic
Not Political structure

They are not homogeneous
Just like Nigeria
But
They found a way to make the best of it


Nigerians and Africans in general are largely STUPID
That is why ethnic hegemony is at all levels
And breaking the country will not help matters

We need to cure the society of the stupidity first
Then after that
Whether we choose to stay together or break
We will be better off for it

Imo state, the Mbaise are stigmatized and are not seen as worthy to lead the state
It took a fool like Okoroawusa for Imo state to vote an Mbaise person

Look at Kogi and Benue states

Even within the states
We see the same rubbish
So if Kogi or Benue become an independent country
What will it solve if the reasoning is still same (Igala and Tivs respectively)

DexterousOne:


Even the so called ethnic minorities are lazy
They are nowhere in the oil producing value chain

It's all foreigners
All we collect is economic rent
Let's be clear on that

It's not lije the Niger delta are working day and night and the govt is stealing their earnings

That said
When I said Switzerland has Similar structure to Nigeria
I meant the demographic
Not Political structure

They are not homogeneous
Just like Nigeria
But
They found a way to make the best of it


Nigerians and Africans in general are largely STUPID
That is why ethnic hegemony is at all levels
And breaking the country will not help matters

We need to cure the society of the stupidity first
Then after that
Whether we choose to stay together or break
We will be better off for it

Imo state, the Mbaise are stigmatized and are not seen as worthy to lead the state
It took a fool like Okoroawusa for Imo state to vote an Mbaise person

Look at Kogi and Benue states

Even within the states
We see the same rubbish
So if Kogi or Benue become an independent country
What will it solve if the reasoning is still same (Igala and Tivs respectively)

Your choice of word is wrong!
We don't share a similar structure to that of Switzerland.
The similarity between both countries is that they are multiethnic. That's all. Nigeria is also multi religious.

People are largely uninformed etc

On the ethnic nations of the Niger Delta;

They suffer much pain because of Nigeria and Nigerians. The system is rigged against them.

That's a fact!

Mindset and structure have to change for Nigeria to make any meaningful progress.

Fishing, farming and tourism all had potential in the swamps of the Niger river delta but Nigeria's structure and mindset has encouraged the pollution of the land and waterways.

We did not ask Nigeria to exploit and explore for oil in our homeland. The least they could do is give us a fair share and protect our environment.

The truth is most Nigerians view the Niger Delta as conquered territory. We were not conquered by conquest.

PHijo:


Your choice of word is wrong!
We don't share a similar structure to that of Switzerland.
The similarity between both countries is that they are multiethnic. That's all. Nigeria is also multi religious.

People are largely uninformed etc

On the ethnic nations of the Niger Delta;

They suffer much pain because of Nigeria and Nigerians. The system is rigged against them.

That's a fact!

Mindset and structure have to change for Nigeria to make any meaningful progress.

Fishing, farming and tourism all had potential in the swamps of the Niger river delta but Nigeria's structure and mindset has encouraged the pollution of the land and waterways.

We did not ask Nigeria to exploit and explore for oil in our homeland. The least they could do is give us a fair share and protect our environment.

The truth is most Nigerians view the Niger Delta as conquered territory. We were not conquered by conquest.

I don't pity the ND one bit
You folks deserve to suffer and suffer more
After what you did to my people and how you guys played a key role in sabotaging our efforts to leave the union.
Even after The war, we saw what your ilk did to us (especially those from Rivers)
The history is all there

Assuming Biafra has split then
Don't you think it would have been better for us

You guys allowed the leeches up north to deceive you

Now they are the ones stealing the goodies

Now Nigeria is far gone
Nigeria cannot split again


Until una get sense
You guys will be pillaged and pillaged and pillaged

Until nothing is left

Actions have consequences
DEAL WITH IT

PHijo:


Your choice of word is wrong!
We don't share a similar structure to that of Switzerland.
1The similarity between both countries is that they are multiethnic. That's all. Nigeria is also multi religious.

People are largely uninformed etc

On the ethnic nations of the Niger Delta;

2They suffer much pain because of Nigeria and Nigerians. The system is rigged against them.

That's a fact!

3Mindset and structure have to change for Nigeria to make any meaningful progress.

Fishing, farming and tourism all had potential in the swamps of the Niger river delta but Nigeria's structure and mindset has encouraged the pollution of the land and waterways.

We did not ask Nigeria to exploit and explore for oil in our homeland. The least they could do is give us a fair share and protect our environment.

The truth is most Nigerians view the Niger Delta as conquered territory. We were not conquered by conquest.

I agree with bolded 1 and 3

However
For bolded 2
Igbos are rigged out of the system too, and we are forced to succeed outside the system
So you see what we have in common

Nigeria is rigged against every one except the bourgeois in the far north

Even the SW goons who like to feel among
Recent happenings over the last 5 months have shown that they are not even in the setting either

So you see

DexterousOne:


I agree with bolded 1 and 3

However
For bolded 2
Igbos are rigged out of the system too, and we are forced to succeed outside the system
So you see what we have in common

Nigeria is rigged against every one except the bourgeois in the far north

Even the SW goons who like to feel among
Recent happenings over the last 5 months have shown that they are not even in the setting either

So you see

Igbo people can farm if they choose to farm. Some communities can't even fish! Waterways are polluted. People feel like hostages in their homeland. Basic necessities like petrol and cement cost 300 percent or more in our communities. Job opportunities are allotted to Nigerians at the expense of locals but the locals have to contend with inflationary pressures caused by Nigeria and her partners.

A good example is Bonny island, if pure water cost 10 naira in Owerri it will cost 30 naira in Bonny but Nigeria has a uniform minimum wage. Despite having the first schools in Nigeria, educational standard has fallen since we as a people became part of Nigeria. Kingdoms like Bonny, Nembe, Kalabari, Opobo, Okrika and a host of others made progress before Nigeria. Since Nigeria came to being Ijaw people's fortune has been in a steady decline. Many people wouldn't believe the first SAN was Ijaw. The first Nigerian to own a private jet was also Ijaw.

Our greatest undoing is that we take every Nigerian as brothers when they don't see us the same way.

PHijo:


Igbo people can farm if they choose to farm. Some communities can't even fish! Waterways are polluted. People feel like hostages in their homeland. Basic necessities like petrol and cement cost 300 percent or more in our communities. Job opportunities are allotted to Nigerians at the expense of locals but the locals have to contend with inflationary pressures caused by Nigeria and her partners.

A good example is Bonny island, if pure water cost 10 naira in Owerri it will cost 30 naira in Bonny but Nigeria has a uniform minimum wage. Despite having the first schools in Nigeria, educational standard has fallen since we as a people became part of Nigeria. Kingdoms like Bonny, Nembe, Kalabari, Opobo, Okrika and a host of others made progress before Nigeria. Since Nigeria came to being Ijaw people's fortune has been in a steady decline. Many people wouldn't believe the first SAN was Ijaw. The first Nigerian to own a private jet was also Ijaw.
Our greatest undoing is that we take every Nigerian as brothers when they don't see us the same way.

You guys should have thought about that before stabbing your brothers in the back.

And those at the top in the ND are also to blame too.

Militancy would have been a force for good

Until greed entered into the mix.


Una go dey alright las las

DexterousOne:


You guys should have thought about that before stabbing your brothers in the back.

And those at the top in the ND are also to blame too.

Militancy would have been a force for good

Until greed entered into the mix.


Una go dey alright las las

Which brothers?

PHijo:


Which brothers?

The.South East


I see how you people treat mu people in PH
So don't pretend to be saints

Una seize our properties and some there relish another excuse to steal again

Until we have a frank discussion and air all out grievances in Nigeria
We will not make headway

DexterousOne:


I don't pity the ND one bit
You folks deserve to suffer and suffer more
After what you did to my people and how you guys played a key role in sabotaging our efforts to leave the union.
Even after The war, we saw what your ilk did to us (especially those from Rivers)
The history is all there

Assuming Biafra has split then
Don't you think it would have been better for us

You guys allowed the leeches up north to deceive you

Now they are the ones stealing the goodies

Now Nigeria is far gone
Nigeria cannot split again


Until una get sense
You guys will be pillaged and pillaged and pillaged

Until nothing is left

Actions have consequences
DEAL WITH IT

Your people severally betrayed the people of southern Nigeria. You betrayed Eyo Ita in the then Eastern region. You betrayed the Yoruba members of your party south west which led to the tribal politics they play in south west. You betrayed Northern coup plotters and you sabotaged the Niger Delta 's independence effort both politically and militarily and you expect the man you betrayed to lead an army in the support of your Biafra?

The Niger Delta did nothing to you. On the contrary you have one of the major sources of ALL her woes. Till date you can't even take responsibility for your evil actions.

We are not looking for your sympathy. It is inconsequential and you are not trustworthy.

PHijo:


Your people severally betrayed the people of southern Nigeria. You betrayed Eyo Ita in the then Eastern region. You betrayed the Yoruba members of your party south west which led to the tribal politics they play in south west. You betrayed Northern coup plotters and you sabotaged the Niger Delta 's independence effort both politically and militarily and you expect the man you betrayed to lead an army in the support of your Biafra?

The Niger Delta did nothing to you. On the contrary you have one of the major sources of ALL her woes. Till date you can't even take responsibility for your evil actions.

We are not looking for your sympathy. It is inconsequential and you are not trustworthy.

You see am
The typical Niger Delta reasoning
You guys have not seen anything yet

You have not

Igbos are not blameless
Our leaders made some mistakes, not relating to most of what was posted by you up there btw

But you guys are not blame less either
Your people killed and betrayed us, allowed the Nigerian army use your flank to over run and kill us off.

Have you bothered why the north fights to remain a monolith
While at the same time divide the former eastern region,

Many of you don't use your sense
And see short sighted
That has always been your problem

Now we are all receiving the short end of the stick
which northern coup plotters is this one saying?
Look ar this one

DexterousOne:


You see am
The typical Niger Delta reasoning
You guys have not seen anything yet

You have not

Igbos are not blameless
Our leaders made some mistakes, not relating to most of what was posted by you up there btw

But you guys are not blame less either
Your people killed and betrayed us, allowed the Nigerian army use your flank to over run and kill us off.

Have you bothered why the north fights to remain a monolith
While at the same time divide the former eastern region,

Many of you don't use your sense
And see short sighted
That has always been your problem

Now we are all receiving the short end of the stick
which northern coup plotters is this one saying?
Look ar this one

To start with, the North did not fight to divide the defunct eastern region. It was Eastern minorities who fought to divide the defunct eastern region.

Till date you Igbos have failed to take responsibility for your actions before the war, during the war and after the war and you expect other ethnicities from the former eastern region to support your excesses when you can't have the courtesy to apologise for your war crimes.

You were not betrayed. You betrayed those that chose to fight on your side.

Boro made the first attempt to secede. It was you Igbos who imprisoned him.

Now you expected Boro and his people to help you acquire your own freedom! It makes no sense.


If you truly wanted your freedom you should have left Boro and his people and emancipated your people and you expected them to sit quietly while you overrun their homeland.

Sapeleboy911:
For me the problems Nigeria as a nation is facing are Religion, tribalism, and the greatest of all corruption. The average Nigeria man thinks of what he stands to gain. You can imagine a commissioner going to Thanksgiving that God has answerd his calls, just because he was appointed as a commissioner.
In government parasatals people are not being employed on merits but on who you know. Give or take Nigerians are very hard working people. But corruption is the nations greatest problem.

You have spoken well

dominiick:
I don't know where you got your figures from

Nominal gdp is the GDP on the ground

GDP-PPP is adjusted

bindukwe:


Gbam! Being a millionaire in naira means little.

One with say N50m to N150m in Nigeria tried n

Abagworo:



The bolded is a big fat lie. A millionaire is someone worth 360 million Naira and Port-Harcourt alone has more than 50,000 of such not to talk of Lagos, Kano, Aba, Onitsha, Abuja and other places.

Boss I greet u