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Re: Jonathan Vs Tinubu 2023, Possibilities , Likely Scenarios by DMerciful(m): 7:18pm On Jan 08, 2020
It was rigged! No such votes!
mrvitalis:

The same region that gave bihari so much votes that if u remove all he got from south he still won

Those are the north
Re: Jonathan Vs Tinubu 2023, Possibilities , Likely Scenarios by DMerciful(m): 7:21pm On Jan 08, 2020
You can't use rigging to ascribe popularity. The elections under APC are highly rigged!
Oshigun:


All you Igbos do is think and talk emotionally and this is why you lose out 100% over events of the past 7 years in our politics. Whether it is predicting Buhari will never lead Nigeria, shouting "Tinubu's boy" (Gbajabiamila) can never lead our lower house or claiming Saraki is the smartest politician to live and that he will defeat PMB and Tinubu easily, Igbos always get it badly wrong. This is because your sentimental outlook leads you to speak based on what you want to see rather than what on-ground reality indicates is possible.

Firstly, PDP, or any Nigerian Party for that matter, cannot zone its Presidential ticket to the SE for now, or even the next 10 years, because Igbos are simply not electable as per our top job. Other Nigerians will simply reject any Igbo candidate presented in 2023 and several elections after that as long as everyday perception of Igbos, fuelled by what Igbos themselves do, remains the same. No Nigerian will be happy voting for Igbos who are the least patriotic elements in Nigeria, always agitation for secession, to lead us. No Party will therefore commit suicide to lose an election before even a single vote is cast by running with an Igbo Presidential candidate.

Secondly, claims Tinubu is no match for Tambuwal or Kwankwaso is just another Igbo-centric opinion and we know how flawed your opinions have been over the years. If you are not overestimating the strength of Saraki and Dogara you are downplaying the real influence and power of the likes of PMB, Tinubu, Fashola et al merely because of your tribalistic, sentimental and hateful approach to politics. Best to let you carry on with your anti-Yoruba analysis till reality sets you straight in the future as always happens.
Re: Jonathan Vs Tinubu 2023, Possibilities , Likely Scenarios by DMerciful(m): 7:22pm On Jan 08, 2020
He said Saraki will finish his Senate presidency,
dint he?
midolian:
In fact, the moment pachukwudi44 gives a prediction, it is safe to assume what will happen to be the other way round. grin grin
Re: Jonathan Vs Tinubu 2023, Possibilities , Likely Scenarios by DMerciful(m): 7:26pm On Jan 08, 2020
If you objectively look at the numbers, Bubu won first term due to middle belt and Jega disenfranchisement of PDP strongholds due to different standards of voter cards distribution.
Second term was rigged, Bubu never won and SW difference in its entirety is about 200k, much lower than only Abia state votes to PDP.
Oshigun:


Indeed. This is what I was telling them above. Yet what do you expect? Is it not only Igbos who continue to feign ignorance of the political sagacity, efficacy, vision and greatness of Awolowo till date?

Tinubu they see as similar to Awolowo will ever get any acknowledgement or praise from the biggest practitioners of hate politics in Nigeria and perhaps the world? Can we not remember Igbos spamming all internet outlets in 2014 to claim Tinubu is a local champion, with influence limited alone to the SW, who can never help Buhari to Aso Rock? As they say, and to the disgrace of Igbos again, the rest is history and Buhari is two-term President with Tinubu playing a starring role in the two elections PMB won.

I too wonder how Igbos think and if indeed they are sick. I can only conclude that the loss of the civil war, and how they blame the Yorubas for that, has induced a psychosis in Igbos they are not able to dislodge.
Re: Jonathan Vs Tinubu 2023, Possibilities , Likely Scenarios by DMerciful(m): 7:30pm On Jan 08, 2020
SW was nowhere for years in the ruling class. Just 4yrs of Bubu with Osinbajo being enslaved and Tinubu afraid to speak, all of a sudden you wanna die ontop Igbo matter. Talking about bridge from generation to generation! Tinubu will follow Awolowo route
Oshigun:


You Igbos are not building any damn bridge. You are just being cowardly and scarred stiff of crushing defeat and humiliating rejection you know Nigerians will deal you in 2023 if any Party dare presents an Igbo as Presidential candidate.

Building bridges would be changing your everyday talk and behaviour so you are more acceptable to the electorate. You don't build bridges by refusing to contest an election while refusing to review the attitude, utterances, anti-nation bullishness , negativity and prejudices that made you very unpopular and unelectable in the first place. Common sense my friend.
Re: Jonathan Vs Tinubu 2023, Possibilities , Likely Scenarios by DMerciful(m): 7:33pm On Jan 08, 2020
He was right on Saraki's impeachment as dead on arrival!
Sanchez01:

Pa Chuks, NONE of permutations or analysis have ever been right, even by half. I sincerely think you shouldn't involve in permutations so long it is politics. grin
Re: Jonathan Vs Tinubu 2023, Possibilities , Likely Scenarios by DMerciful(m): 7:37pm On Jan 08, 2020
Answer the question! Has APC ever won Edo in a presidential election?
Osaze007:


No point of arguing with you 2023 is almost here
Re: Jonathan Vs Tinubu 2023, Possibilities , Likely Scenarios by Nobody: 7:57pm On Jan 08, 2020
DMerciful:
SW was nowhere for years in the ruling class. Just 4yrs of Bubu with Osinbajo being enslaved and Tinubu afraid to speak, all of a sudden you wanna die ontop Igbo matter. Talking about bridge from generation to generation! Tinubu will follow Awolowo route

Yes because Yorubas are principled and upright enough to play opposition and stay the course, however difficult, for what they believe in. They don't run up and down holding Nigeria to ransom. This is why the SW is the most equitable and sophisticated region in Nigeria today by far. Out of power, Yorubas will re-strategise and claw their way back to political relevance the right way i.e their way. They don't sell themselves to the highest bidder just for instant gratification as others do.

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Re: Jonathan Vs Tinubu 2023, Possibilities , Likely Scenarios by okefrancis: 8:05pm On Jan 08, 2020
Who is telling you all these? Jonathan ko Good luck ni
Re: Jonathan Vs Tinubu 2023, Possibilities , Likely Scenarios by bluefilm: 8:21pm On Jan 08, 2020
Tinubu 2023 is a done deal!!!

Even Jonathan will wish him Good Luck on that.

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Re: Jonathan Vs Tinubu 2023, Possibilities , Likely Scenarios by oyatz(m): 9:20pm On Jan 08, 2020
And so funny when the permutations and analysis are often done by people who are not registered members of any political parties or people who don't even have voter's cards!





ProWalker:
Only on NL that you will see some foolish permutations

So someone with a working brain will want Tambuwal (partially made by Tinubu) and Kwankwaso (whose influence is grossly limited to Kano) against a Tinubu with the widest political connections in Nigeria of today

You people are sick !!!

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Re: Jonathan Vs Tinubu 2023, Possibilities , Likely Scenarios by Ebenezar2020(m): 9:24pm On Jan 08, 2020
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Goodluck Ebele Azikiwe Jonathan
GCFR, GCON is a Nigerian politician who served as the President of Nigeria from 2010 to 2015. Prior to that, he served as Vice-President of Nigeria from 2007 to 2010 and as Governor of Bayelsa State from 2005 to 2007.


Goodluck should go back to Otueke and continue his fishing work.
seems PDP are so obsessed with failure and they know giving The Otueke warlord the presidential ticket will spell another doom for the party.
Uche Secondus as his name implies is another monumental failure with his nairaland supporters like immhotep and Lzaa
This is new year make una try get sense abeg

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Re: Jonathan Vs Tinubu 2023, Possibilities , Likely Scenarios by oyatz(m): 9:35pm On Jan 08, 2020
Nothing will happen, on the contrary it will deepen Nigeria's democracy by entrenching the belief that an opposition party can easily defeat a ruling party.

However, your assertion that the North will always vote for a Northerner is NOT true. It's not backed up with our political reality or History.


Just give one example from 1959 elections till date in which ALL the 19 States in the North voted for only one candidate/party.





kettykings:

Please can you be more explicit what will happen if Atiku Abubakar wins the PDP presidential primaries and chooses a south eastern or south southerner and wins the National election against tinubu backed osinbajo

From the look of things the north will always vote north

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Re: Jonathan Vs Tinubu 2023, Possibilities , Likely Scenarios by kettykings: 9:41pm On Jan 08, 2020
oyatz:
Nothing will happen, on the contrary it will deepen Nigeria's democracy by entrenching the belief that an opposition party can easily defeat a ruling party.

However, your assertion that the North will always vote for a Northerner is NOT true. It's not backed up with our political reality or History.


Just give one example from 1959 elections till date in which ALL the 19 States in the North voted for only one candidate/party.






1959 elections, 1964 elections, 1979 elections and the 1983 elections
Re: Jonathan Vs Tinubu 2023, Possibilities , Likely Scenarios by oyatz(m): 9:42pm On Jan 08, 2020
How did you know this sir?






mrvitalis:

North have more to gain by voted Jonathan than tinubu
Re: Jonathan Vs Tinubu 2023, Possibilities , Likely Scenarios by Kpoikpoi: 9:44pm On Jan 08, 2020
kettykings:
Following the different news dished out from different angles today concerning 2023 where Goodluck Jonathan was forced to issue a statement through his Personal assistant " that he was not under compulsion to contest and Tinubu had to issue another state after meeting with Buhari about 2023 one is coerced to simulate how the 2023 election will election and contest will likely Play out among the 2 southern Gladiators

Goodluck Ebele Azikiwe Jonathan
GCFR, GCON is a Nigerian politician who served as the President of Nigeria from 2010 to 2015. Prior to that, he served as Vice-President of Nigeria from 2007 to 2010 and as Governor of Bayelsa State from 2005 to 2007.

Bola Ahmed Adekunle Tinubu
is a Nigerian politician who was elected senator for the Lagos West Constituency in Lagos State, Nigeria in 1993. The election was just prior to a military take-over in December 1993

This is the former East vs former West

Jonathan is likely to choose his Vice from the North west and will likely secure the votes of the South East , South South parts of the Middle Belt and parts of the North East while his popular Vice president will secure the North west

Tinubu is believed to have the South west in hsi grip depending on where he chooses his vice , he might secure votes from the core North parts of middle belt and parts of the Borno and Yobe
Re: Jonathan Vs Tinubu 2023, Possibilities , Likely Scenarios by Kpoikpoi: 9:48pm On Jan 08, 2020
Hahaha, Jonathan is Igbo now isn't he?
This is the reason everyone believes that Okoro people are fools.
Anyway, it's a good thing that you people have finally accepted the fact that you can never sniff Aso Rock.

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Re: Jonathan Vs Tinubu 2023, Possibilities , Likely Scenarios by oyatz(m): 9:53pm On Jan 08, 2020
This clearly shows you don't know much about Nigerian Political History.

In the 1959 elections: the NPC, Aminu Kano's NEPU, Kashim Ibrahim's BYM, Joseph Tarka's UMBC and several smaller parties had their bases in the North.

In 1979: out of the 10 States in the North, Shagari's NPN only won 4 States convincingly. Southern minorities gave NPN the needed votes to win.
Kwara was hotly contested by both UPN &NPN, the PRP won the old Kano & Kaduna States (now slipted into 4 States), the GNPP won the Old Gongola and Borno States while Azikiwe's NPP won Plataeu State (Now Nasarawa & Plateau States).

1983: Similar pattern as 1979. Different political parties won in the North.


Different parts of the 'North' have different political gladiators with different aspirations.


The 'North' is NOT homogeneous, very vast and far from thinking or behaving in the same way

kettykings:


1959 elections, 1964 elections, 1979 elections and the 1983 elections

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Re: Jonathan Vs Tinubu 2023, Possibilities , Likely Scenarios by Basic123: 10:27pm On Jan 09, 2020
tribalmall:
Just like MKO beat your lord.n savior Atiku plus Tofa n Kingibe to win the.SDP presidential primaries n election so will Tinubu beat any northerner that step out 2023.

I know you have sorrowful wail to shed but your antecedent of wrongful prediction based on acute bigotry n extreme foolishness precede u.


I love this!

They analyze politics base on emotion not knowledge

That is why they always fail

Look at their analysis on

Saraki

Dino melaye

GEJ

Dickson

Gbajabiamila

Ahmed lawan

Oshiomole and Oyegun

El rufai versus FAYEMI of NGF chairmanship

Fayose

ATIKU

Etc

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Re: Jonathan Vs Tinubu 2023, Possibilities , Likely Scenarios by Basic123: 10:52pm On Jan 09, 2020
ORIENTATION101:
oponu. Only a human being without working brain will say that thrash.
Tinubu is the biggest and most influential politician in Nigeria now after buhari.
Tinubu is not an island on its own .tinubu caucus in Apc re the engine room of the party.
Vice president,senate president,house of rep speaker, SGF, minister of interior, COAS, Efcc chairman apc chairman, e.t.c belongs to his caucus.
The likes of Ganduje, wammako, masari,shettima,zulum, Ribadu e.t.c ,belongs to asiwaju camp.
The only rebels group in Apc is yari el rufai, fayemi, bagudu, rochas, and amosun.but they re small fry.cos they don't belong to CPC caucus, which is another powerhouse of Apc.
Apc literally belongs to ACN and CPC. ACN have the biggest stake in the party.
Those guys are very Ignorant.They live in a world of delusion.They assume what they wish is happening is happening not the reality.

Majority of them don't know that the current SGF was the former secretary of defunct ACN.That Ganduje of Kano,zulum of Maiduguri,razaq of Kwara etc belong to Tinubu camp.

Talkless of the speaker and VP which are his direct political sons.

While APC is being formed

ACN had 6governors 18 senators and 80 reps

CPC had just 1governor and 3 senators.

Tinubu owns APC machinery!

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