AntiChristian:
The Bible teaches that a husband should have authority over his wife...

Colossians 3:18
Wives, submit to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord.

1 Peter 3:1
Wives, in the same way be submissive to your husbands so that, if any of them do not believe the word, they may be won over without words by the behavior of their wives

However, what kind of submission are we talking about here?...

1 Peter 3:5-6
5For this is the way the holy women of the past who put their hope in God used to make themselves beautiful. They were submissive to their own husbands, Sarah, who obeyed Abraham and called him her master. You are her daughters if you do what is right and do not give way to fear.

So aren't the pious Christian women of today also supposed to follow this example and call their husbands their master?

It is good that the New Testament teaches that a wife should obey her husband but you can kind of get the impression that it takes it a little bit too far...

Ephesians 5:22-24
Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

The wife should submit to their husbands in EVERYTHING? Isn't that a little bit too extreme? Paul is saying that the wife should submit to the husband as the Church does to Christ. Now since Christians believe that Christ is God does that mean that the wife should obey her husband as if she is obeying God and give him the same rights? The verse clearly states that the wife's submission to her husband should be as one's submission to God and we all know that this is unconditional submission.

Christians might argue back that a wife doesn't have to obey her husband if he orders her to commit a sin against God, for God would never order such a thing. Fine, but what if the husband orders his wife to do something that might be injurious to her health? If God ordered it, she would have to do it, for God has given the woman her body and she has to submit to Him. This also means that she would have to obey her husband since she must submit herself to her husband's orders as if God Himself were issuing them.

Ladylite:


Are you blind or just an illiterate? You didn't see where the Bible verse you quoted specifically said "as unto to the lord?"

Would the lord ask something that is injuroius to your health?

Even the church that submits to christ is not being forced to do anything like some erroneous pastors have presented it.

Pls if you have bias don't twist scriptures. It is clear. Submission is not slavery it is simply hble service.

AntiChristian:



I no sabi twist!

God can ask something that is injurious, deadly and catastrophic!

Numbers Chapter 31vs 7-12
7 And they warred against the Midianites, as the LORD commanded Moses; and they slew all the males. 8 And they slew the kings of Midian, beside the rest of them that were slain; namely, Evi, and Rekem, and Zur, and Hur, and Reba, five kings of Midian: Balaam also the son of Beor they slew with the sword. 9 And the children of Israel took all the women of Midian captives, and their little ones, and took the spoil of all their cattle, and all their flocks, and all their goods. 10 And they burnt all their cities wherein they dwelt, and all their goodly castles, with fire. 11 And they took all the spoil, and all the prey, both of men and of beasts. 12 And they brought the captives, and the prey, and the spoil, unto Moses, and Eleazar the priest, and unto the congregation of the children of Israel, unto the camp at the plains of Moab, which are by Jordan near Jericho.

So if the husband commands his wife to kill......

AntiChristian:



I no sabi twist!

God can ask something that is injurious, deadly and catastrophic!

Numbers Chapter 31vs 7-12
7 And they warred against the Midianites, as the LORD commanded Moses; and they slew all the males. 8 And they slew the kings of Midian, beside the rest of them that were slain; namely, Evi, and Rekem, and Zur, and Hur, and Reba, five kings of Midian: Balaam also the son of Beor they slew with the sword. 9 And the children of Israel took all the women of Midian captives, and their little ones, and took the spoil of all their cattle, and all their flocks, and all their goods. 10 And they burnt all their cities wherein they dwelt, and all their goodly castles, with fire. 11 And they took all the spoil, and all the prey, both of men and of beasts. 12 And they brought the captives, and the prey, and the spoil, unto Moses, and Eleazar the priest, and unto the congregation of the children of Israel, unto the camp at the plains of Moab, which are by Jordan near Jericho.

So if the husband commands his wife to kill......

MistadeRegal:



Which husband today in the name of GOD will ask his wife to kill?
Who did GOD send to do that? If you have no knowledge of the Bible, and you're not ready to learn, stop reading from it. And next time, if you want to query GOD, go up to Heaven and ask Him directly.
Don't address a query you want to query GOD to us on this platform.
And it's none of our business how you go to meet Him to tender your query.

Ladylite:


Will you kip kwayet?

That was the old testament. You quoted from the new testament and I replied you based on the new testament.... Then shamelessly you are back to old testament.

See show me in the new testament and if you do not know that old testament is not the same as new testament then you're not worthy to have this conversation with me

AntiChristian:



You don check that verse before you comment or your hand is faster than your brain?

MistadeRegal:


Where did you see any order given to men to tell their wives to kill anybody there?
You should know your brains are slower than your thinking ability.

AntiChristian:
The Bible teaches that a husband should have authority over his wife...

Colossians 3:18
Wives, submit to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord.

1 Peter 3:1
Wives, in the same way be submissive to your husbands so that, if any of them do not believe the word, they may be won over without words by the behavior of their wives

However, what kind of submission are we talking about here?...

1 Peter 3:5-6
5For this is the way the holy women of the past who put their hope in God used to make themselves beautiful. They were submissive to their own husbands, Sarah, who obeyed Abraham and called him her master. You are her daughters if you do what is right and do not give way to fear.

So aren't the pious Christian women of today also supposed to follow this example and call their husbands their master?

It is good that the New Testament teaches that a wife should obey her husband but you can kind of get the impression that it takes it a little bit too far...

Ephesians 5:22-24
Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

The wife should submit to their husbands in EVERYTHING? Isn't that a little bit too extreme? Paul is saying that the wife should submit to the husband as the Church does to Christ. Now since Christians believe that Christ is God does that mean that the wife should obey her husband as if she is obeying God and give him the same rights? The verse clearly states that the wife's submission to her husband should be as one's submission to God and we all know that this is unconditional submission.

Christians might argue back that a wife doesn't have to obey her husband if he orders her to commit a sin against God, for God would never order such a thing. Fine, but what if the husband orders his wife to do something that might be injurious to her health? If God ordered it, she would have to do it, for God has given the woman her body and she has to submit to Him. This also means that she would have to obey her husband since she must submit herself to her husband's orders as if God Himself were issuing them.

AntiChristian:


Is that the only thing you see in the OP? Can your thought process only translate "kill" as only physical killing? Please think wider!

they way you understand hardship is to bully, to cause injury and pain , to exert yourself so others will honor you by force

nlPoster:


I think this is a function of upbringing or nurture, not always to be blamed on religion, because you can find these traits in Christians also.

MistadeRegal:



If you think you know how to write, remember those who knows how to read.
Your post is irrelevant and clueless.

AntiChristian:



Thanks for wasting your time on a clueless thread. It sure shows how clueless you are for staying this long.

MistadeRegal:



And it pains him.
You just as well confirmed your post is clueless.

AntiChristian:


Is it clueless?

You know when Jesus was preaching almost no one understood what he was saying. Some even called him mad.

Such is your Parable.

MistadeRegal:



Very much the opposite. You quote the Bible to defame and say all you want against it with wrong interpretation and explanation and you're even quoting JESUS CHRIST'S parable!
You're not interacting with a novice concerning the Bible.
Come on! Whose side are you on?

AntiChristian:


Bring out the lie in whatever I post. I am on the antichristian's side as you can see!

I lie not but you can point out my mistakes!

MistadeRegal:


Misinterpretations.

AntiChristian:


I think the Bible was just not too clear on this! The perfect meaning of the word obscure!

MistadeRegal:


No. Rather you weren't given to understand its content.

AntiChristian:


Any book that is not meant to be understood by the common man should be jettisoned.

You can as well explain the verses with your holy Spirit mind and let's see the miracle you'll perform!

MistadeRegal:


That's because the content is Spiritual, written down in words. If you therefore ain't someone alive to the things of the Spirit, the same thing you're doing is what will be done because you just won't understand.

AntiChristian:


What is spiritual here in:

1. Luke 1
Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us, just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word. With this in mind, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, I too decided to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught.

Hearsays penned down!

MistadeRegal:


Is that everything in the Bible?

AntiChristian:


O! You have to first agree there's nothing spiritual here first. Then we move on.

MistadeRegal:


Mr, this isn't a chat.

AntiChristian:


Bring what is spiritual in the verses quoted since and you can't! No be chat truly!