RisenPhoenix:


Because I know there is no 'Fulanization' or 'Islamization' agenda. If a few criminals who happen to be from a specific tribe commit a crime, I do not feel the need to attribute it to all members of that tribe. I do not believe that all Igbos are drug dealers or all Yorubas are ritual killers because there have been repeated notorious incidents of that kind among them. I think that it is important to retain one's objectivity in an environment of group insanity.

The one attempted by Usman Dan fadio was what? Peacelization abi?
Or we should wait until our case becomes like that of the Armenians?

ABCthings:
The one attempted by Usman Dan fadio was what? Peacelization abi?

After fishing for 'evidence', you drag in campaigns from 2 centuries ago? Smh.

RisenPhoenix:


After fishing for 'evidence', you drag in campaigns from 2 centuries ago? Smh.

1) So because it two centuries ago it's irrelevant?
2) You avoided the second question....noted
3) What's your take on this pics?

ABCthings:
1) So because it two centuries ago it's irrelevant?
2) You avoided the second question....noted
3) What's your take on this pics?

Obviously. Circumstances are very different.

I did not even notice the second question, and I don't think that with modern international laws in place, an event over a century ago is any more relevant than one 2 centuries ago. There is also no religious or political parallel between what happened in Armenia and farmer herder disputes in Nigeria. Cattle don't enter only Christian-owned farms and most Fulani herders don't even seem to be the kind of fanatic moslems that want to spread their religion from my observation. Christian leaders only seem to want to use this conflict to gain validity for themselves and the followers follow (as always).

With all this overblown hate speech, you should be more fearful of intertribal conflict. Nobody in Nigeria will enjoy it, believe me. So you will do well to stop fueling it.

RisenPhoenix:


Obviously. Circumstances are very different.

I did not even notice the second question, and I don't think that with modern international laws in place, an event over a century ago is any more relevant than one 2 centuries ago. There is also no religious or political parallel between what happened in Armenia and farmer herder disputes in Nigeria. Cattle don't enter only Christian-owned farms and most Fulani herders don't even seem to be the kind of fanatic moslems that want to spread their religion from my observation. Christian leaders only seem to want to use this conflict to gain validity for themselves and the followers follow (as always).

With all this overblown hate speech, you should be more fearful of intertribal conflict. Nobody in Nigeria will enjoy it, believe me. So you will do well to stop fueling it.

You're confusing yourself.

Let's go straight!


1) Was usman Dan fadio agenda funalization?
2) Was the that of the Armenians islamization?
3) What is your take on the pics I posted?

Answer them one after the other.

ABCthings:
You're confusing yourself.

Let's go straight!


1) Was usman Dan fadio agenda funalization?
2) Was the that of the Armenians islamization?
3) What is your take on the pics I posted?

Answer them one after the other.

Both terms are actually meaningless.

1.) If by Fulanization, you mean turning everyone to Fulani, obviously not. Tribal affiliation is genetic.

2.) If by Islamization you mean converting everyone to Islam, then also obviously not. Do you consider the Anglo- French colonisation of Africa to be Christianization? Armenia and the Ottomans had had long standing disputes over borders and loyalty. Since the Ottomans were moslem and Armenians were mostly christian, I guess the element of religion would have been used to create enmity; it's possible. Either way, the occurrence of certain conflicts centuries ago does not prove the presence of any present plans of a similar nature.

3.) It would have been better if you had posted the actual links to the statements made. I don't know how authentic the statements are. And if you believe that Fulanis are not part of Nigeria, I do not know how you can justify your belief in the Usman dan Fodio campaign.

RisenPhoenix:

Both terms are actually meaningless.

1.) If by Fulanization, you mean turning everyone to Fulani, obviously not. Tribal affiliation is genetic.

Honestly I don't like all these masquerade dance you're giving, how can you say this is what I mean by funalization or are you just hearing it for the first time?
I meant the the domination of the funalis and ethnic cleansing of the other tribes. same applies to islamiation.
Now answer the question.

2.) If by Islamization you mean

Forceful conversion and oppression of the infidels
Now answer and keep it simple and short.

3.) It would have been better if you had posted the actual links to the statements made. I don't know how authentic the statements are.

They authentic ask anyone around. I don't know whether you were sleeping on the moon when Bubu was making these statements.
Now what's your take!

And if you believe that Fulanis are not part of Nigeria, I do not know how you can justify your belief in the Usman dan Fodio campaign.

Read the your president said again, this time on repeat.

ABCthings:

Honestly I don't like all these masquerade dance you're giving, how can you say this is what I mean by funalization or are you just hearing it for the first time?
I meant the the domination of the funalis and ethnic cleansing of the other tribes. same applies to islamiation.
Now answer the question.

You are clearer now. Neither term is in the dictionary and I always like to be clear on your own personal meaning so my response will be unambiguous.

The answer is No. During the campaigns of Usman dan Fodio, there was domination but never concerted ethnic cleansing. Many of his top aides were non Fulani.

ABCthings:

Forceful conversion and oppression of the infidels
Now answer and keep it simple and short.

No. The Ottomans did not attempt to convert the Armenians to Islam. They tried to kill them off because they perceived that the Armenians were more loyal to the Russian State and were a threat to the Ottoman rule.

ABCthings:

They authentic ask anyone around. I don't know whether you were sleeping on the moon when Bubu was making these statements.
Now what's your take!

Read the your president said again, this time on repeat.

I asked 'around' and no one seems to be able to give a clear response. Surely you should be able to find a credible link somewhere if it were true, rather than send me to my neighbours? After all, the one who makes the assertion should also be the one to substantiate it. Also, if you need my opinion; then don't give me manufactured photographs to comment on. Make your statement and ask my opinion.

RisenPhoenix:


You are clearer now. Neither term is in the dictionary and I always like to be clear on your own personal meaning so my response will be unambiguous.

The answer is No. During the campaigns of Usman dan Fodio, there was domination but never concerted ethnic cleansing. Many of his top aides were non Fulani.



No. The Ottomans did not attempt to convert the Armenians to Islam. They tried to kill them off because they perceived that the Armenians were more loyal to the Russian State and were a threat to the Ottoman rule.



I asked 'around' and no one seems to be able to give a clear response. Surely you should be able to find a credible link somewhere if it were true, rather than send me to my neighbours? After all, the one who makes the assertion should also be the one to substantiate it. Also, if you need my opinion; then don't give me manufactured photographs to comment on. Make your statement and ask my opinion.

if dan fadio agenda is not funalization and the Armenians genocide is non religious to you

Then there is not need to waste for me to with you. It means even if Nigeria turns an Islamic state today you will still call it democracy.

It's clear you're not ignorant as I thought you are, you're just evil and both evil and its supporter will perish.

Farewell.

ABCthings:
if dan fadio agenda is not funalization and the Armenians genocide is non religious to you

Then there is not need to waste for me to with you. It means even if Nigeria turns an Islamic state today you will still call it democracy.

It's clear you're not ignorant as I thought you are, you're just evil and both evil and its supporter will perish.

Farewell.

I understand how you would think that anyone who does not agree with your biased and obviously unintelligent opinion is evil. Ill informed and unenducated bigots always think of everything in terms of black and white, good and evil... either you're 'with us or against us'. In the 21st century for that matter. How dumb.

What is truly evil is the tribal polarisation and hate speech that people of your kind push on media that you would never have had brains to access if not for the internet. We are all Nigerians. If a criminal commits an act, we call him out on it and arrest him; not accuse his whole tribe or members of his profession. This is exactly how the Rwanda thing started, and ironically, those who started it; along with their supporters; are the ones suffering in exile today.

My thoughts exactly.

However my issue is the way the presidency has handled it. Being a Fulani man, he is in the best position to put an end to this issue but he has failed woefully.

You cannot blame those who are wary of the Fulani people. They have enough historical evidence to back up their claims including our political history since independence. It also doesn't help that the Northern borders are very porous. We have Fulanis from other countries coming in and going without proper documentation.

I am not saying there aren't several instances we have also been the aggressor against Northerners in the South. A good president will try to resolve this issue and not worsen it.

Inasmuch I want other regions to defend itself, I don't trust Amotekun. It is definitely going to bite us in the ass.

RisenPhoenix:


The thing is... hate feeds on itself. We have had farmers, Fulani herdsmen and disputes since time immemorial. It is only recently that you see this hate, and it is driven more by tribal and religious bigotry than by an actual desire to save our farms.

To answer your question, farms are usually surrounded by bush where the cattle graze and when farmers say that their fatmlands were destroyed, they usually mean that cattle entered one corner of their farm and trampled a few rows or mounds. Some farms are overgrown by weeds, though when you hear the 'outraged' farmers talk about compensation later, you will think that it was a ten thousand acre mechanized corporate farm. I am not saying that there are no mistakes made; I am just pointing out that in my experience, showing common courtesy would probably prevent a lot of grief.

Amd there are rogues in every tribe and profession. I was not dicussing existential socialism.

It has been said often that WATER will become the resource over which many future wars will be fought. As Planet Earth heats up, breaking upper temperature records with each passing year and spawning prolonged droughts along with raging, wind-whipped wildfires consuming vast swathes of INHABITED terrain in Australia and California for example, the manifestation of climate change in Africa has taken the form of desertification along the regions bordering the sands of the Sahara Desert.

The resultant degradation of green pasture land into dusty wasteland is occurring by steady increment across the entire continent of Africa. In Nigeria this means that vast herds of free-roaming cattle, belonging to northern Nigeria's moneyed elite, are forced to venture further and further southward, literally in search of greener pastures, in an escalating migration that has inevitably led to direct armed conflict with farming communities nationwide, particularly in the Middle Belt state of Benue.

The political influence wielded by Mayetti Allah, Nigeria's free-range cattle owner's association, runs high, deep and wide, today in 2020, meaning, for example, that there currently exists precious little law enforcement recourse available to farmers who may seek police help to forcibly exclude cattle from their cropped land, or who may be inclined to file legal claims against cattle owners over crop damage.

Emphatically, any farmer in Nigeria who goes into direct armed conflict with Fulani cattle herders, is GUARANTEED to come out a loser, simply because the might of the Nigerian armed forces can, in extreme cases, be brought to bear on any southern farmer who has the temerity to injure or kill humans or cattle while seeking to evict trespassing herds devouring ripening crops in the field.

My foregoing minor digression from the agricultural emphasis of this discussion topic has been included to emphasize the absolute futility and inherent danger, of any attempt by southern or middle-belt Nigerian farmers to directly confront invading cattle herdsmen with weaponry of any sort, given the tacit FEDERAL backing of all "land acquisition expeditions" embarked upon by armed terrorists herding cattle.

Whether one applauds or condemns this current reality in the Nigerian countryside, the immutable law of self-preservation dictates that during the finite number of years when heads of cattle retain an exalted status deemed "more equal" than human beings in Nigeria, lowly southern Nigerian farmers and land owners must of primal necessity resort to sneakiness, creativity and skulduggery, in their approach to evicting cattle herds from farmland, so as to avoid the wrath of the powers that be, thereby enhancing farmer longevity, statistically speaking.

The concept of imparting the smell of cow manure to crops, so as to kill the appetites of trespassing cattle, or of creating an invisible wall of cow blood stench around a farm to keep hoofed intruders out, falls under this category of subtle, clandestine guerrilla methodology waged in the shadows during a time of inequity and repression, so to avoid reprisals from the well connected. It is in this spirit of survival under times of adversity, that I have gone public with the details of how farmers can deploy a secret weapon that is both simple and immensely powerful.

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Standing by for any reports by farmers who try this method of cow damage deterrence on the farm.

I look forward to reading first-hand testimony from any farmers who have successfully used this method to eliminate cattle from their land, because such anecdotal accounts would highlight the potency of this deceptively simple concept that entails weaponizing the keen sense of smell that cows have, so as to keep those pesky herds at a distance.

The mass invasion of southern Nigeria's farmland by voracious cattle herds, and the concomitant genocidal attacks launched by terrorist gangs who roam the nation's southern agricultural bread-basket herding crop-devouring cattle, has over the past decade mutated into a MAJOR point of contention that pits the politically connected Fulani tribe, who own most of the crop-destroying cattle, against ALL of Nigeria's other disparate demographic groups, who have traditionally done most of the farming in Nigeria.

Sunisonflex39:
you can change it to your taste

so how far?


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sylve11:


so how far?

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Hopefully before long, this thread will be revisited by a few farmers who have tried the cow repellent solution outlined here, and are prepared to describe the powerful effects of these crop protection measures.

Frankly I am mystified as to why there hasn't been a massive reader response to this idea, given that it is a PEACEFUL, EFFECTIVE, and easily hidden solution to a problem that has ALREADY cost hundreds of framer's lives in Nigeria's Middle Belt and beyond.

So let's hear it then, yee cultivators of the land. Have you worked this magic yet, to get rid of that perennial rogue cow menace on your farm ?

A very important enhancement to the cow deterrent strategy of farmers, should be the addition of COW BONES to the mix, after collecting those bones fresh from the slaughter house, such that there are still scraps of meat stuck to the bones.

While cow blood is a devastatingly powerful cow repellent, rainfall can dilute the effect of cow blood if it is left out in the open, and this is where cow BONES come in very useful and effective. The addition of cow bones to the perimeter of farms, ensures that the powerful smell of cow death continues to linger on even after heavy rain has fallen, and washed away some of the cow blood.

By the way, if great care is taken to hide the cow blood at the base of trees, under dry leaves, or inside bamboo stands, the effect of rainfall can be greatly reduced, such that the smell of cow death can even get STRONGER after rain, when all smells tend to become more pronounced.

So, in short, to say goodbye and farewell to farm destroying cattle and their violent herdsmen, deploy cow blood, bones, and manure, to get rid of the invaders peacefully, and with no stress experienced by anyone EXCEPT the killer herdsmen, who will have no option but to phuck off and leave back to where they come from in the first place.