Kokoebapluse:



, I like sheep like you, first according to Bible did Hagar do wrong? No, Hagar was a slave that she need to obey her master command, was marriage between Hagar and Abraham legal or illegal? It's legal Abraham did not slept with hagar in in secret,it was Shara that give Hagar to Abraham by herself remember Hagar was a slave she can't reject the command of her master, did God against what happened between Hagar and Abraham? No God is in support but Shara full of jealous that is what cause separate between Hagar and Abraham, and God promise Ishmael of Good things,

But do you know that lineage of Jesus is a bastard? Go and read what happened between Judah and his daughter-in-law and trace it back to Joseph the adopted father of Jesus

Jesus is from lineage of bastard that is why Joseph can't be a king on the house of David and Jesus can never be a king on Israeli because they re lineage of bastard,

You are a big slowpoke chaaaai , let me break it down to you since you didn't do your research well before coming to conclusion.
First Joseph was never the genetic father of Jesus.Joseph was a legal parent , but not a genetic parent of jesus. Jesus was Miraculous conceived in Mary , through the Holy Spirit .
Joseph was the son of Heli and the son-in-law of Heli. Mary was the daughter of Heli.
Now Joseph , when he married Mary , became the son of Heli according to the law of Moses and could legally be included in the genealogy.
Moreover , in the genealogy , Heli is listed as the father of Joseph , who had 2daughters .The first is Mary and the other was Zebedees unnamed wife.When there were no sons to preserve the inheritance in accordance the law of Moses , the husband would become the son upon marriage to keep up the family name.Therefore , Joseph when he married Mary , became the son of Heli according to the Law of Moses and could legally be included in the genealogy.
Remember Joseph was the lineage of Jehoiakim .
And Jehoiakim's lineage was cursed .God cursed his lineage by indicating that none of children would sit on the throne of David their father.
Joseph offspring could not claim David's throne because of the curse .Jesus laid claim to the of David.If Jesus had been born of Joseph , the curse would of been contradicted .Jesoph was not the genetic father of Jesus.
Jesus was Miraculously conceived in Mary(virgin) , through the Holy Spirit.

Mashallah:



But Muslim countries top the list of countries that watch pornography.


Pakistan always take the lead

And says am a Muslim?

Kokoebapluse:



, I like sheep like you, first according to Bible did Hagar do wrong? No, Hagar was a slave that she need to obey her master command, was marriage between Hagar and Abraham legal or illegal? It's legal Abraham did not slept with hagar in in secret,it was Shara that give Hagar to Abraham by herself remember Hagar was a slave she can't reject the command of her master, did God against what happened between Hagar and Abraham? No God is in support but Shara full of jealous that is what cause separate between Hagar and Abraham, and God promise Ishmael of Good things,

But do you know that lineage of Jesus is a bastard? Go and read what happened between Judah and his daughter-in-law and trace it back to Joseph the adopted father of Jesus

Jesus is from lineage of bastard that is why Joseph can't be a king on the house of David and Jesus can never be a king on Israeli because they re lineage of bastard,

Obedience was that how you Muslim type recognise a legal marriage ? Aaaah shame on you!!!!. So because Sarah gave him a go ahead it is now legal. Abraham's marriage to Hagar was not legal my friend and God was never in support even though he blessed him( Ishmael) when Abraham sent them away with just water . God had pitty on him because of the mother's agony . Remember He is a merciful God.
Genesis 11 , relates that Abram and his brother Nahor married Sarai and Milcah, respectively , it doesn't name Sarah's father , even though it relates that Milcah was the daughter of Haran , Terah's other son , and then name Haran's other daughter , Iscah.
Genesis 11:31 tells that Terah took his son Abram and his grandson Lot ,son of Haran, and his daughter -in -law saria , his son Abram's wife from Ur to Haran , it did not call Sarai Terah's granddaughter .
But this would have made Sarai Abram's niece, not his sister , it would not explain why she is identified as daughter -in -law to Terah , not as his daughter. You can never understand the Bible if you go the way you are moving with speed.
That remind me, so you are saying God didn't bless Isaac or what?.

Kokoebapluse:



, I like sheep like you, first according to Bible did Hagar do wrong? No, Hagar was a slave that she need to obey her master command, was marriage between Hagar and Abraham legal or illegal? It's legal Abraham did not slept with hagar in in secret,it was Shara that give Hagar to Abraham by herself remember Hagar was a slave she can't reject the command of her master, did God against what happened between Hagar and Abraham? No God is in support but Shara full of jealous that is what cause separate between Hagar and Abraham, and God promise Ishmael of Good things,

But do you know that lineage of Jesus is a bastard? Go and read what happened between Judah and his daughter-in-law and trace it back to Joseph the adopted father of Jesus

Jesus is from lineage of bastard that is why Joseph can't be a king on the house of David and Jesus can never be a king on Israeli because they re lineage of bastard,

If Hagar's marriage to Abram is legal how would you describe that of Bilhah and Zipha the two slave girls given to Rechael and Leah by their father .
Yes because Leah the mother of Judah also gave Zipha her slave girl to Jecob when she could no longer conveive again.And Rechael on the other hand have her own slave Bilhah to Jecob and yet the Bible called them Jecobs concubines.
So for the fact that Sarai gave Hagar to Abram does not literally makes their union legal my friend.

Kokoebapluse:



, I like sheep like you, first according to Bible did Hagar do wrong? No, Hagar was a slave that she need to obey her master command, was marriage between Hagar and Abraham legal or illegal? It's legal Abraham did not slept with hagar in in secret,it was Shara that give Hagar to Abraham by herself remember Hagar was a slave she can't reject the command of her master, did God against what happened between Hagar and Abraham? No God is in support but Shara full of jealous that is what cause separate between Hagar and Abraham, and God promise Ishmael of Good things,

But do you know that lineage of Jesus is a bastard? Go and read what happened between Judah and his daughter-in-law and trace it back to Joseph the adopted father of Jesus

Jesus is from lineage of bastard that is why Joseph can't be a king on the house of David and Jesus can never be a king on Israeli because they re lineage of bastard,

If Hagar's marriage to Abram is legal how would you describe that of Bilhah and Zipha the two slave girls given to Rechael and Leah by their brother Laban.
Yes because Leah the mother of Judah also gave Zipha her slave girl to Jecob when she could no longer conceive again.And Rechael on the other hand gave her own slave Bilhah to Jecob before she was conceived of Joseph and Bejamine, and yet the Bible called them(Zilpah and Bilhah the two slave girls) Jecobs concubines.
So for the fact that Sarai gave Hagar to Abram does not literally makes their union legal my friend.

olawonder:


Hajara was NOT a slave! She was gifted to Sarah and her husband (Abraham) by an Egyptian king; which means Hajara’s actually a princess.

The intimate relationship btw her and Abraham was approved by everyone (Hajara’s father, Abraham and Sarah as well), therefore technically, she was Abraham’s wife... if we are talking about illegitimacy, its Sarah and her son Isaac, that are actually illegitimate because Sarah was Abraham’s sister!

Can anyone here marry their own sister, bear a child together, and then say that child is a legitimate child? I don’t think so!

Hagar was a slave , is a slave , and will be a slave. Because Sarai gave her to Abram doesn't make her a free person.
Jecob married Leah and her sister Rechael but when Rechael could not give him a child she gave her slave girl Bilhah to Jecob and Leah also gave her slave girl Zilpah to Jecob when she found out she could no longer bear another child for Jecob .
And all this didn't make the slave girls union to Jecob legal because the Bible recorded them as Jecob's concubines. so

olawonder:


Hajara was NOT a slave! She was gifted to Sarah and her husband (Abraham) by an Egyptian king; which means Hajara’s actually a princess.

The intimate relationship btw her and Abraham was approved by everyone (Hajara’s father, Abraham and Sarah as well), therefore technically, she was Abraham’s wife... if we are talking about illegitimacy, its Sarah and her son Isaac, that are actually illegitimate because Sarah was Abraham’s sister!

Can anyone here marry their own sister, bear a child together, and then say that child is a legitimate child? I don’t think so!

So because it a king to gave Hagar out that brings you to the conclusion that she was a free person . How can a princess be given out like that.

Exodora:
So because it a king to gave Hagar out that brings you to the conclusion that she was a free person . How can a princess be given out like that.

Find out the true story before disputing any facts. Religion history doesn’t hv same comprehension as your present day brain!

Exodora:
Hagar was a slave , is a slave , and will be a slave. Because Sarai gave her to Abram doesn't make her a free person.
Jecob married Leah and her sister Rechael but when Rechael could not give him a child she gave her slave girl Bilhah to Jecob and Leah also gave her slave girl Zilpah to Jecob when she found out she could no longer bear another child for Jecob .
And all this didn't make the slave girls union to Jecob legal because the Bible recorded them as Jecob's concubines. so

The prophet of God did not commit adultry to have a child! Check your story well before saying blasphemous things just because u want to cause religious mischief. Even if we are to go by your bogus story, i ask u: if there’s approval by all parties that Abraham should court Hedgar, doesn’t that make her become a legitimate companion? What makes a slave woman becomes a free wife in your own definition? Also, i need biblical quotes where the story was told as you’re telling it... And, why didn’t u dispute Sarah’s relationship with Abraham? That’s a lie too?

Mashallah:



But Muslim countries top the list of countries that watch pornography.


Pakistan always take the lead

So this stats proves that Christians don't watch porn right?

And those Muslim countries had no non-muslims who could also watch porn?

Exodora:
You are a big slowpoke chaaaai , let me break it down to you since you didn't do your research well before coming to conclusion.
First Joseph was never the genetic father of Jesus.Joseph was a legal parent , but not a genetic parent of jesus. Jesus was Miraculous conceived in Mary , through the Holy Spirit .
Joseph was the son of Heli and the son-in-law of Heli. Mary was the daughter of Heli.
Now Joseph , when he married Mary , became the son of Heli according to the law of Moses and could legally be included in the genealogy.
Moreover , in the genealogy , Heli is listed as the father of Joseph , who had 2daughters .The first is Mary and the other was Zebedees unnamed wife.When there were no sons to preserve the inheritance in accordance the law of Moses , the husband would become the son upon marriage to keep up the family name.Therefore , Joseph when he married Mary , became the son of Heli according to the Law of Moses and could legally be included in the genealogy.
Remember Joseph was the lineage of Jehoiakim .
And Jehoiakim's lineage was cursed .God cursed his lineage by indicating that none of children would sit on the throne of David their father.
Joseph offspring could not claim David's throne because of the curse .Jesus laid claim to the of David.If Jesus had been born of Joseph , the curse would of been contradicted .Jesoph was not the genetic father of Jesus.
Jesus was Miraculously conceived in Mary(virgin) , through the Holy Spirit.

Lineage of Joseph was a bastard that is why Joseph can't be a king and Jesus can never be a king on the house of David as Bible claim because of bastard lineage, that means bastard can't inherited from his father house, Islam is correct, Christianity is wrong if it allows bastard to get share from inheritance

Kokoebapluse:


Lineage of Joseph was a bastard that is why Joseph can't be a king and Jesus can never be a king on the house of David as Bible claim because of bastard lineage, that means bastard can't inherited from his father house, Islam is correct, Christianity is wrong if it allows bastard to get share from inheritance

My do your research well, Joseph can't be a king because Jehoiakim the king of isreal angered God by burning a scroll that Jeremiah the prophet wrote.
God cursed Jehoiakim by indicating that none of his children would sit on the throne of David.And although Jehoiakim had children , but none of them ever reigned as king David had.Joseph the father of Jesus was one of Jehoiakim's descendant (through Jeconiah).
Joseph's offspring could not claim David's throne because of the curse. Jesus laid claim to the throne of David through his mother Mary .If Jesus had been born of Joseph , the curse would have been contradicted.Joseph was not the gentic father of Jesus . Jesus was miraculously conceived in Mary , through the Holy Spirit , get that in your head .
J o s e p h is not Jesus father he is His earthly father. How do I explain this to you Chaaaaaiiiii .

Kokoebapluse:


Lineage of Joseph was a bastard that is why Joseph can't be a king and Jesus can never be a king on the house of David as Bible claim because of bastard lineage, that means bastard can't inherited from his father house, Islam is correct, Christianity is wrong if it allows bastard to get share from inheritance

Shame on you , and yet Jesus was a King , is a King and will forever be a King can you explain that .

olawonder:


The prophet of God did not commit adultry to have a child! Check your story well before saying blasphemous things just because u want to cause religious mischief. Even if we are to go by your bogus story, i ask u: if there’s approval by all parties that Abraham should court Hedgar, doesn’t that make her become a legitimate companion? What makes a slave woman becomes a free wife in your own definition? Also, i need biblical quotes where the story was told as you’re telling it... And, why didn’t u dispute Sarah’s relationship with Abraham? That’s a lie too?

Read Genesis 21: 1-20 if you can. Even God himself addressed Hagar as Abram's slave.

olawonder:


The prophet of God did not commit adultry to have a child! Check your story well before saying blasphemous things just because u want to cause religious mischief. Even if we are to go by your bogus story, i ask u: if there’s approval by all parties that Abraham should court Hedgar, doesn’t that make her become a legitimate companion? What makes a slave woman becomes a free wife in your own definition? Also, i need biblical quotes where the story was told as you’re telling it... And, why didn’t u dispute Sarah’s relationship with Abraham? That’s a lie too?

Sarah's relationship was contracdited you know because , Genesis 11:31 tells us that Terah took his son Abram and his grandson Lot , son of Haran , and his daughter - in -law Sarai, his son Abram's wife '' From Ur to Haran, it did not call Sarai Terah's granddaughter . Can you tell me why he (Terah,Abram's father)didnt refer her (Sarai) as his daughter since Abram is her brother.

Kokoebapluse:



, I like sheep like you, first according to Bible did Hagar do wrong? No, Hagar was a slave that she need to obey her master command, was marriage between Hagar and Abraham legal or illegal? It's legal Abraham did not slept with hagar in in secret,it was Shara that give Hagar to Abraham by herself remember Hagar was a slave she can't reject the command of her master, did God against what happened between Hagar and Abraham? No God is in support but Shara full of jealous that is what cause separate between Hagar and Abraham, and God promise Ishmael of Good things,

But do you know that lineage of Jesus is a bastard? Go and read what happened between Judah and his daughter-in-law and trace it back to Joseph the adopted father of Jesus

Jesus is from lineage of bastard that is why Joseph can't be a king on the house of David and Jesus can never be a king on Israeli because they re lineage of bastard,

Jealous hmmmm! Sarah was never jealous of Hagar .
Hagar haven realized she was to have a child, she began to look down upon her mistress who apparently could not have one.
It is true that Sarah sent her and her child away but that was because , Ishmael seemed to have inherited a wild nature through his mother's ancestors, for he was a bad influence on Isaac.
Even Torah tells it that Ishmael mocked Isaac and often tried to frighten him instead of protect him as his younger brother.
Again Sarah instead that Abraham send Hagar and Ishmael away if Isaac were to be prevented from following Ishmael's evil ways.

Exodora:
Shame on you , and yet Jesus was a King , is a King and will forever be a King can you explain that .

see crossrat, Bible said Jesus will be a king and inherited David Thron, that funking lie is enough to call Bible a liar, 1. There is no single verse in Bible where Jesus become a king, 2 if Christian claim that Jesus become king as God does that means David was also God? But Bible is a scam, Jesus is not a king but servant of God, Bible is scam

Exodora:
My do your research well, Joseph can't be a king because Jehoiakim the king of isreal angered God by burning a scroll that Jeremiah the prophet wrote.
God cursed Jehoiakim by indicating that none of his children would sit on the throne of David.And although Jehoiakim had children , but none of them ever reigned as king David had.Joseph the father of Jesus was one of Jehoiakim's descendant (through Jeconiah).
Joseph's offspring could not claim David's throne because of the curse. Jesus laid claim to the throne of David through his mother Mary .If Jesus had been born of Joseph , the curse would have been contradicted.Joseph was not the gentic father of Jesus . Jesus was miraculously conceived in Mary , through the Holy Spirit , get that in your head .
J o s e p h is not Jesus father he is His earthly father. How do I explain this to you Chaaaaaiiiii .

Let me tell you what really happened that Joseph can't be a king,

King Judah slept with his daughter in-laws because he think he was prostitute, and she get pregnant and give birth to twin and one of the twin is lineage of Joseph lineage, that is the reason, go and read your Bible

Kokoebapluse:


Let me tell you what really happened that Joseph can't be a king,

King Judah slept with his daughter in-laws because he think he was prostitute, and she get pregnant and give birth to twin and one of the twin is lineage of Joseph lineage, that is the reason, go and read your Bible

I disagree with you. Jehoiakim was the result why he was king. God cursed Jehoiakim and said that no king will come from his lineage.
Yes Judah slept with his daughter -in-law unknowing which was the result of Perez and his twin brother , but that was never the cause of their lineage not been king.
Jehoiakim was the curse of them not be king .
But then Jesus was a king because of Mary not Joseph.

Exodora:
I disagree with you. Jehoiakim was the result why he was king. God cursed Jehoiakim and said that no king will come from his lineage.
Yes Judah slept with his daughter -in-law unknowing which was the result of Perez and his twin brother , but that was never the cause of their lineage not been king.
Jehoiakim was the curse of them not be king .
But then Jesus was a king because of Mary not Joseph.

Guy I don't want to be ague with you, but can you please tell me where Jesus become a king to which city?

Kokoebapluse:


see crossrat, Bible said Jesus will be a king and inherited David Thron, that funking lie is enough to call Bible a liar, 1. There is no single verse in Bible where Jesus become a king, 2 if Christian claim that Jesus become king as God does that means David was also God? But Bible is a scam, Jesus is not a king but servant of God, Bible is scam

You are confusing yourself , first you said Joseph could not be a king because of Judah . And yet David was a king how?
Joseph's grandfather( Jehoiakim) was the curse why he could not be a king.
Jesus was a king through message of angel. That was why Herod the king wanted to kill him as soon as he was born.

Exodora:
You are confusing yourself , first you said Joseph could not be a king because of Judah . And yet David was a king how?
Joseph's grandfather( Jehoiakim) was the curse why he could not be a king.
Jesus was a king through message of angel. That was why Herod the king wanted to kill him as soon as he was born.

I said show me where Jesus become a king if truly angel of Bible telling truth?

Exodora:
You are confusing yourself , first you said Joseph could not be a king because of Judah . And yet David was a king how?
Joseph's grandfather( Jehoiakim) was the curse why he could not be a king.
Jesus was a king through message of angel. That was why Herod the king wanted to kill him as soon as he was born.

I said show me where Jesus become a king if truly angel of Bible telling truth?


I don't want to talk was lineage of David and lineage of Joseph the same? No, lineage of Joseph come from bastard not David,

Kokoebapluse:


I said show me where Jesus become a king if truly angel of Bible telling truth?


I don't want to talk was lineage of David and lineage of Joseph the same? No, lineage of Joseph come from bastard not David,

And which lineage is Miriam(Mary).
Mary's father , Heli(Luke2), was from the tribe of Judah.
Jesus was the adopted son of Joseph , Jesus colud claim the right to David's throne .Jesus was a descendant of David through Mary(Miriam).
Jesus nationality and tribal identity comes entirely from his mother.
I am done arguing with you.

Exodora:
And which lineage is Miriam(Mary).
Mary's father , Heli(Luke2), was from the tribe of Judah.
Jesus was the adopted son of Joseph , Jesus colud claim the right to David's throne .Jesus was a descendant of David through Mary(Miriam).
Jesus nationality and tribal identity comes entirely from his mother.
I am done arguing with you.

Are you trying to say Joseph and Mary are relation if Mary can be lineage of David? You Christian are the most liar in the world, Mary is a livet, Mary come from family of Moses Elizabeth wife of zackaraih was cousin to Mary, and according to your Bible livet family doesn't have entitled to kingship they can only be Priest and those who re entitled to kingship can't be a priest that is law old testament, Mary is not from lineage of David but livet a family of Moses, can you see that you know nothing? David and Joseph maybe relation but Joseph can't be a king because his real father is a bastardy, and in old testament bastard child should not come to present of God till after his 14 generation past, so Joseph is from lineage of bastard, and Jesus can't be a king because his adopted father is a bastard that can never be a king, can you see that prophecy in Bible is a lie for saying Jesus shall be a king and sit on the throne of David? Jesus is not a king but servant of Allah, last warning Mary is livet family of Moses, not family of David,

So tell me where in Bible Jesus become a king if truly angel in Bible know truth?

Exodora:
You are confusing yourself , first you said Joseph could not be a king because of Judah . And yet David was a king how?
Joseph's grandfather( Jehoiakim) was the curse why he could not be a king.
Jesus was a king through message of angel. That was why Herod the king wanted to kill him as soon as he was born.

Are you trying to say Joseph and Mary are relation if Mary can be lineage of David? You Christian are the most liar in the world, Mary is a livet, Mary come from family of Moses Elizabeth wife of zackaraih was cousin to Mary, and according to your Bible livet family doesn't have entitled to kingship they can only be Priest and those who re entitled to kingship can't be a priest that is law old testament, Mary is not from lineage of David but livet a family of Moses, can you see that you know nothing? David and Joseph maybe relation but Joseph can't be a king because his real father is a bastardy, and in old testament bastard child should not come to present of God till after his 14 generation past, so Joseph is from lineage of bastard, and Jesus can't be a king because his adopted father is a bastard that can never be a king, can you see that prophecy in Bible is a lie for saying Jesus shall be a king and sit on the throne of David? Jesus is not a king but servant of Allah, last warning Mary is livet family of Moses, not family of David,

So tell me where in Bible Jesus become a king if truly angel in Bible know truth?

Exodora:
And which lineage is Miriam(Mary).
Mary's father , Heli(Luke2), was from the tribe of Judah.
Jesus was the adopted son of Joseph , Jesus colud claim the right to David's throne .Jesus was a descendant of David through Mary(Miriam).
Jesus nationality and tribal identity comes entirely from his mother.
I am done arguing with you.

Are you trying to say Joseph and Mary are relation if Mary can be lineage of David? You Christian are the most liar in the world, Mary is a livet, Mary come from family of Moses Elizabeth wife of zackaraih was cousin to Mary, and according to your Bible livet family doesn't have entitled to kingship they can only be Priest and those who re entitled to kingship can't be a priest that is law old testament, Mary is not from lineage of David but livet a family of Moses, can you see that you know nothing? David and Joseph maybe relation but Joseph can't be a king because his real father is a bastardy, and in old testament bastard child should not come to present of God till after his 14 generation past, so Joseph is from lineage of bastard, and Jesus can't be a king because his adopted father is a bastard that can never be a king, can you see that prophecy in Bible is a lie for saying Jesus shall be a king and sit on the throne of David? Jesus is not a king but servant of Allah, last warning Mary is livet family of Moses, not family of David,

So tell me where in Bible Jesus become a king if truly angel in Bible know truth?

Exodora:
Read Genesis 21: 1-20 if you can. Even God himself addressed Hagar as Abram's slave.

That’s your own assertion of the story, being a Christian. I, as a Muslim follows the assertion of the Quran. In the Quran, she was not a slave but a revered woman whom God held to high esteem. Even in your bible, God places her directly under the protection of the Angels, with promise of making her progeny a great nation of pious men of God... so we don’t believe she’s a mere slave?

Exodora:
Sarah's relationship was contracdited you know because , Genesis 11:31 tells us that Terah took his son Abram and his grandson Lot , son of Haran , and his daughter - in -law Sarai, his son Abram's wife '' From Ur to Haran, it did not call Sarai Terah's granddaughter . Can you tell me why he (Terah,Abram's father)didnt refer her (Sarai) as his daughter since Abram is her brother.

I don’t know why she was not mentioned as Terah’s daughter, maybe u should read with context rather looking for everyone’s relationship to each other. In the Quran, Hegar was never a slave! She was born into the family of Pheroah, and commanded the maidens quarters; she is a revered woman in the Islamic faith... and in Rabbanical Jewish theology, she was not a slave either, which suggests to me that Christians’ interpretation might have added ‘slave’ to the story solely for mischief!

Then again I say, even if we go by your story (that she’s a slave) the fact that she was revered highly by God, and brough about a great nation frm her linage is enough for us Muslims. Even in the bible God exemplifies her as a noble woman and promised her a progeny of great, noble men. She couldn’t hv been a mere slave for all that!

olawonder:


I don’t know why she was not mentioned as Terah’s daughter, maybe u should read with context rather looking for everyone’s relationship to each other. In the Quran, Hegar was never a slave! She was born into the family of Pheroah, and commanded the maidens quarters; she is a revered woman in the Islamic faith... and in Rabbanical Jewish theology, she was not a slave either, which suggests to me that Christians’ interpretation might have added ‘slave’ to the story solely for mischief!

Then again I say, even if we go by your story (that she’s a slave) the fact that she was revered highly by God, and brough about a great nation frm her linage is enough for us Muslims. Even in the bible God exemplifies her as a noble woman and promised her a progeny of great, noble men. She couldn’t hv been a mere slave for all that!

Even though Hagar is Pharos daughter making her a princess but she was still Sarah's slave according to the Bible .
After Abraham performed a miracle in the palace Hagar vow that it was better to worship his God than to .....
And then she was given to Sarah.
Remember she was not first given to Abram to bear to him a child but was given to him first before the issue of child bearing .
The Bible refer Sarah to her as her mistress. And Abram's slave though Isaac brought her back after the death of his mother and she later had other children for him bought it was only Ishmael and Isaac that were recognise.

Exodora:
Even though Hagar is Pharos daughter making her a princess but she was still Sarah's slave according to the Bible .
After Abraham performed a miracle in the palace Hagar vow that it was better to worship his God than to .....
And then she was given to Sarah.
Remember she was not first given to Abram to bear to him a child but was given to him first before the issue of child bearing .
The Bible refer Sarah to her as her mistress. And Abram's slave though Isaac brought her back after the death of his mother and she later had other children for him bought it was only Ishmael and Isaac that were recognise.

Again, all according to your bible!

baarak66:


What do you even know what a Doi'f Hadith is? You don't open your mouth and speak if you're ignorant of anything. When Allah and His Messangsr give a ruling, as a Muslim, you follow and don't complain.

In this case, that is the ruling if you like it or not.
There are actually punishment for the parent.
The son can only inherit his mother and vise-versa but not with the father. He'll also be given any Muslim name as surname but not the Man's name.

If you need further explanation, please enroll into Madrasah. Shikenah.

i can see how shallow ur brain thinks, i don't need to argue with an idiot like u, you are among those people who are making Islam looks like a strange religion, go nd do more research on this issue, nd ur alfas