Thanks 9jaman. The plan is a 5bedroom duplex, the back has a 3bedroom flat in the back and another 3bedroom flat at the back.

Dear All,

I need help.

Kindly advise current materials prices for delivery to Arepo in Lagos.
Pls quote 2 prices - with or without transport - (if you know) or one, indicating which.

Cement
Iron rod - 16mm (1 ton)
Iron rod - 12mm (1 ton)
Iron rod - 10mm (1 ton)
Granite (30 tons)
Filling sand (laterite)
Sand

Thanks in advance.

Can anyone tell me what the approximate cost would be to build a 3 or 4 bedroom (one Story) house in Uyo, Akwa Ibom State?

9ijaMan,

Reading through the chains of messages shows that you definitely know your stuff. Much love appreciated for taking the time to enlighten fellows. Really helpful for folks like me outside Naija.
Seems like you are outside Naija yourself - UK or US??

Anyways, would appreciate it if you can provide a rough estimate of what it would take to build a 10 room face me-I face you (5 on each side) bungalow in Epe area near the LASU extension campus. Better yet, it would be helpful if you can give a breakdown of the amount of blocks, sand, etc that would be used. Your response is much appreciated.

And all please feel free to reply if you have any information on this,

Thanks
SegunTx

SegunTX:

9ijaMan,

Reading through the chains of messages shows that you definitely know your stuff. Much love appreciated for taking the time to enlighten fellows. Really helpful for folks like me outside Naija.
Seems like you are outside Naija yourself - UK or US??

Anyways, would appreciate it if you can provide a rough estimate of what it would take to build a 10 room face me-I face you (5 on each side) bungalow in Epe area near the LASU extension campus. Better yet, it would be helpful if you can give a breakdown of the amount of blocks, sand, etc that would be used. Your response is much appreciated.

And all please feel free to reply if you have any information on this,

Thanks
SegunTx

@Segun,
Yes I'm not in 9ja too. You can call the number below. It's the number to my friend/site engineer who's on ground in 9ja. He is mainly into assisting with site development at reasonable fees. He's done it for several of us (his friends) who live in/outside 9ja. Most of what I've contribute here were learnt from him during my numerous interaction with him either by phone or on ground when I visit 9ja.

He's Munir by name and his number is +2348023454356.

Give him a call and try him out. I surely can vouch for him, but that does not stop you from sampling other guys to compare figures. I do that all the time with him and every single labourer who works on my sites.

9jaman, u never still answer me, o

DCGUY:

9jaman, u never still answer me, o

Sorry bros no vex o!
You can also give that my friend a call too.

He's Munir by name and his number is +2348023454356.

He should be able to help you better than I would be. He's on ground in 9ja and knows the current prices. I have just put a hold on my current project. I want to see how the elections turn out.

thanks, I go do so.

9ijaMan:


He's Munir by name and his number is +2348023454356.

Give him a call and try him out. I surely can vouch for him, but that does not stop you from sampling other guys to compare figures. I do that all the time with him and every single labourer who works on my sites.

@Naija Man - Thanks. Will buzz him up.

Cheers!

[b]9ijaMan,

Nice work your doing and more grace to your elbow brof, i would really appreciate if you can furnish me how much details you can abt building a 3bdroom bungalow at ikorodu, i.e what materials would be needed as well as an estimated cost.

you advice would be a great help bro and thanks in advance

Do get your best quotes for electrical wires/cables from maxndianaefo@yahoo.com.
Also know what your electrician think he knows in wire/cables by reading up BUILDERS AND DEVELOPERS WISE UP! @ the property thread.

9ijaMan,

Brov, i am still waiting on your reply as to my question please, i would really appreciate it if you can help Sir

Dwayne01:

9ijaMan,

Brov, i am still waiting on your reply as to my question please, i would really appreciate it if you can help Sir

Sorry o my brother! It's over 4 months now since I went home last and I'm aware that prices of materials have skyrocketed, particularly cement. Last October/November when I was home cement sold for 1,500 to 1,600 per bag and I understand it's over 2,000 now. I do not want to give you wrong info.

Call this number and he should be able to help you: +2348023454356.
He's a close pal who's been in charge of my projects and the projects of a number of my other friends. He would be able to provide a much better professional advice. Try him out as I can personally vouch for him.

@9jaman, I don call ur guy and even sent him my building plan via email and still he has not responded

This is a very good topic, can someone give me advice on how much will it cost me to finish 4 flat of 3 bedrom in ikorodu. i dont want to start and get stock along the way. all these money you guys are mentioning is scary, to be honest with you. please i need expart advice here. i am just looking for average cost.
thanks

DCGUY:

@9jaman, I don call your guy and even sent him my building plan via email and still he has not responded

I've just spoken with him and he told me he's responded to your request. He promised to send you a second response tomorrow.

thanks 9jaman I got it today from him. however, his estimate for foundation alone is over N5mil-that's the highest that i have ever gotten. I no go fit use the bobo but I thank you well, well shao!!.

DCGUY:

thanks 9jaman I got it today from him. however, his estimate for foundation alone is over N5mil-that's the highest that i have ever gotten. I no go fit use the bobo but I thank you well, well shao!!.

You are welcome o! I'll advice you to try 2 or more opinions before you finally commit yourself. Sometimes you'll find some guys with the lowest quotation and they'll end up doing a terrible job for you.

Get two more quotations from other sources and ensure to inform them to break the project down to the minutest material. The you'll have a basis of comparison.

When Munir started handling mu projects, I also thought his quotations were high until a similar project just opposite mine which was being handled by a different person collapse right before my eyes. The job was a 4 flat which had reached roofing level. A part of the building collapsed because the site engineer used substandard materials and also reduced the thickness of the deck work just to cut/save costs.

Compare Munir's breakdown with quotations from others and then make up your mind.

Hi 9aija man, You certainly kept this forum alive with your personal experience and I did like your honesty. I will advise that should you become tired which you will be with time, simply let us know.

mmeri:

Hi 9aija man, You certainly kept this forum alive with your personal experience and I did like your honesty. I will advise that should you become tired which you will be with time, simply let us know.

Thanks Bro. I've been spending most of my time in the politics section of NL.  'Cos I strongly believe we need a complete change of direction from the 12 years of misrule of the PDP government. If Nigeria works and the discipline is instilled in the average Nigerian, most of us in diaspora will not be scared of having anyone at home handle our projects for us. If all the arms of government are functioning properly, most of us here will not necessarily need a 9ijaman to share his own experience.

Nonetheless, I do appreciate your post, in fact my head don dey swell sef!

Pls guys help me out. I got a very scaring quotation from my welder. Actually am buildin 4 flat, which consist of 2 bedrooms each all ersuit. Am now on the decking, and this is the quotation i got.
16 mm ,, 1 AND HALF TON
12MM ,, 3 TONS
10MM ,, HALF TON
WORKMANSHIP,, 120,000
LOCATION AJAH

CARPENTER
SAMMY WOOD,, 350
2 BY 3 ,, 250
BAMBOO ,, 300
WORKMANNSHIP,, 85000

CONCRETE LEVEL
40 TONS OF GRANIT
60 TONS TO SAND
150 BAGS OF CEMENT
LABOUR ,, 120000
Actually, from foundation to the lintel, have spent nothin less than 3,5m and am not livin in nigeria to supervise the project. Am i stil on a right way or they are dupin me, pls reply me

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Hi

I came to Nigeria already for the second time this year for business. I was traveling around Lagos also have had the chance to visit at Banana Island new development complex. I have the impression that building construction supervision and also quality workmanship are very poor in general overall in Nigeria

I am wondering if I can get information for building construction average price in Lagos or Abuja per square meter.

I am planning to set up brand new office 2 storey building and also residential housing complex. All design necessity have been prepared by international consultants include architectural, foundation -civil structural and also Mech/Electr/Pl. Legal documentation are being prepared for the application to the city council

Should you have an update information on average bld price/ sqm, please do not hesitate to contact me directly. Requested is bare price in Foundation/ civil structural and architectural works.

Thank you for your attention and reply

Naijaman:

I joined so i could get your perspective on this

I am building a two-storey encompassing a 4 unit 3-bedroom flats around Lekki. I got a supervision quote from a friend for 200k for foundation, then just this week another 150k requested to supervise the filling stage.

My questions are:

1. Is this reasonable and expected
2. and are the foundation and filling expected to be separate phases?
3. what can i expect as cost of supervision for the entire building from start to finish.

Should i be negotiating supervision from start to finish?

Dealsrus:

Naijaman:

I joined so i could get your perspective on this 

I am building a two-storey encompassing a 4 unit 3-bedroom flats around Lekki. I got a supervision quote from a friend for 200k for foundation, then just this week another 150k requested to supervise the filling stage.

My questions are:

1. Is this reasonable and expected
2. and are the foundation and filling expected to be separate phases?
3. what can i expect as cost of supervision for the entire building from start to finish.

Should i be negotiating supervision from start to finish?

I really do not know what sort of work he'll be doing to have to charge you that much. Perhaps you need to provide more details on the sort of job he's doing for you.  In my case with 2 similar type of house (most likely bigger than yours), outside Lagos and with just about 2 years apart (2008 & 2010), I did the same type of work and paid less than 100K in total to my friend a housing specialist who supervised the job for both houses (i.e less than 50K per house). The jobs supervised on on both houses included: foundation digging, concrete work, foundation block setting, filling and german floor concrete work. Admittedly my friend wasn't around through out the entire period the jobs were being done, he was however present when the critical jobs were being done. All concrete jobs were done in his presence and the first coach of block setting were witnessed by him. Similarly, the filling was confirmed and approved by him before the german floor work.

Lastly, my friend travels from more than 150km from his base to my sites whenever his presence is needed. Your friends quotes will be reasonable if he'll be the one to pay for the materials. If na supervisor job alone him wan collect all that money for, abeg me no mind to be your supervisor o!

Check my earlier posts and give the guy a call. He may be able to help you.

ganny1:

Pls guys help me out. I got a very scaring quotation from my welder. Actually am buildin 4 flat, which consist of 2 bedrooms each all ersuit. Am now on the decking, and this is the quotation i got.
16 mm ,,  1 AND HALF TON
12MM  ,,   3 TONS
10MM ,,   HALF TON
WORKMANSHIP,, 120,000
LOCATION AJAH

CARPENTER
SAMMY WOOD,, 350
2 BY 3 ,,       250
BAMBOO ,,    300
WORKMANNSHIP,, 85000

CONCRETE  LEVEL
40 TONS OF GRANIT
60 TONS TO SAND
150 BAGS OF CEMENT
LABOUR ,,  120000
Actually, from foundation to the lintel, have spent nothin less than 3,5m and am not livin in nigeria to supervise the project. Am i stil on a right way or they are dupin me, pls reply me

My brother to tell you the truth, the guy is most likely milking you dry! What on earth will he be using a ton and half of 16mm rods for in a small sized 2 x 2 BDF ensuite building deck work. I did some deck work last year and here's my breakdown:

Size of House is approx[b] 40 ft by 100 ft[/b] (compare the size of your house to mine). My house was a building of 4 flats (2 on the ground floor and 2 on the top floor) with 3 bedrooms each (all rooms ensuite)

12mm rods: 5 tons (assuming each ton comprises of 84 pieces). Some tonnes are however made up of 96 pieces of 12mm rods. Bottom line is that I paid per piece for the rods used. I used a total of 436 pieces. The 3 tons he quoted for you may just be fine. I'd rather he makes that 3.5 tons (again this depends on the size of your house).

16mm rods: I can almost tell that my house is bigger than yours, I used a total of 60 16mm rods. This is less than 1.5 tonnes o!

10mm: I used a total of 60 pieces. Barely half of a ton. I guess half a ton should be ok for you as well.

Th labour cost of Iron bender he's charging you is also high. The last job I did, which is most likely bigger than yours, I paid 70k for the iron bender job on the deck work.

The carpentry labour cost is ok for Lagos. I paid 70k for mine so 85k in Lagos is not too much. The materials for carpentry work are also reasonable.

On concrete work:
I'm completely confused with the figures he gave you. To the best of my knowledge, in a concrete mixture, the ratio of sand to granite is about 1:2 (for every head-pan of sand, there should be about 2 head-pans of granite). The figures you presented shows that your guys are asking you for more sand than granite. I hope they really know what they are doing. In my case, I paid for (and got the delivery of) 130 tons of Granite and 75 tons of sharp Sand. We had some left over though which should always be the case for a deck work. It's better to have excess than to have inadequate materials for a concrete deck work. Please verify and be sure that the guy knows about concrete deck work because those figures you gave for your concrete deck (granite and sand volumes) are to say the list ridiculous, except if the guys plan to do a terribly bad job for you!

The labor charge is reasonable although I paid for almost twice that amount (again this boils down to the size of the house).

Lastly, ask him to give you the break down of the steel rod materials in terms of peices and not in terms of tonnage! The definition of steel rods ton varies a lot and you almost certainly will not get it cheaper whether you buy in tonnage or in pieces. The total value of a ton is based on the price of every single piece. Using ton to quote is kind of deceptive. Ask him for pieces.

I hope I have been able to shed some light.

For those who plan to do deck work, you can do simple calculations as follow:

1 piece of rod (16mm, 12mm, 10mm, 8mm etc) is approximately 36 ft long. It should normally be 40 ft long but trust Nigerian traders, they'll always find a shortcut to profit.

Assuming a house with dimension of 20ft by 50ft.
Deck steel layout is often a square mesh with spacings of approximately 6 inches between two parallel rods (i.e. each square mesh is 38 sq.in in area). You can use smaller mesh sizes (ofcourse na more money to be spent), but never try to use bigger mesh size for residential buildings.
Also at the edeges, the rods are curved back inwards and should be approximately 4 to 6 feet.

Now down to the calculations:
Along the length (50ft) of the house you'll need at least 2 pieces of rod to cover the full length, since each rod is only 36ft long. The total length of 2 rods is now 72ft. A sample breakdown will be 50ft to cover the length, 7 ft return at each end ( 14 ft in total) and the remaining 8 ft for overlap between the two rods.
For a spacing of 6" (0.5 ft) along the length of the house, it means you'll need a total of 40 lengths lengths across the length of the house (20 ft divided by 0.5 ft). Since two pieces make one length, then your requirement will be 80 pieces of 12mm rods only.

For the 20 ft breadth of the house:
1 rod is enough for each length across the breath leaving you with 16 ft of rod to use for your return on either side. Again for the rods across the breath of the deck you'll need 100 lengths (i.e. 50 ft divided by 0.5 ft).

In total you'll need 180 pieces of 12mm for the mesh work. You may want to add 25% extra to take care of the stair work and internal beams (if an).

The 16mm rods needed are usually meant for the perimeter of the deck work to act as beam to support the deck load. the perimeter of the sample deck given will be 2 x (20+50) = 140 ft. A beam will have 4 rods to form a cuboid (some people use triangular prisms), hence you'll need 140 ft of 16mm rods in 4 places to form a complete perimeter round the deck. Add 8 ft of overlap at each corner of the deck. This will result in a total of approximately 172 ft of rod for a complete perimeter including overlaps for each of the 4 corners of the cuboid. This is approximately 5 lengths of 16mm rods for each corner of the cuboid and 20 lengths in total. That's just the engineering calculation. The actual calculation is done like this:
4 lengths of 16mm rods on each side of the breadth of the deck (8 in total) and 8 pieces on each side of the length of the deck (16 pieces in total). This yields a total of 24 pieces of 16mm rods (4 pieces more than the engineering calculation). Add 6 more pieces for your stairs.

10mm rods required to form rings will be approximately 25 to 30 pieces at most.

Summary, for a 20 ft by 50 ft deck work (including stair case concrete) you'll need approximately:
225 pieces of 12mm steel rods
30 pieces of 16mm steel rods
30 pieces of 10 mm steel rods.

I'm not a professional, but I learnt all these from friends an practicals on my personal projects.

hi builders freaks,

I started to joint this conversation since last week April 25th 2011 and wondering if my queries about building costs and prices in Abuja could be responded. In short, I need urgently update information building unit price/ sqm for 2storey office for Abuja FCT area (bare architectural & civil structural). M/E/P works and all equipment and materials necessity will be considered as additional and shipped from oversea. I already visited some construction sites at Abuja few times, labor capacity and workmanship quality in general are very poor.

Legal Permit is underway and being taking care of by the city council FCDA-officials

I have been searching for a potential solid local Nigerian builders who might be interested to participate on this project and planning to start for groundbreaking middle of July this year. Total space will be built is approx. 4,500sqm for the main building include all supporting facilities and I am expected that construction of the works will be completed within 15 months time. Thanks

Please, is it possible to build 12 units of 3 bedroom flats (ie 4 flats per floor of a 2 storey building) in two standard plots?

Omnisean:

Please, is it possible to build 12 units of 3 bedroom flats (ie 4 flats per floor of a 2 storey building) in two standard plots?

If you want to build houses with the UK standard room sizes then I'd say it's possible. It depends on the target market you are aiming at. Twelve flats on two plots to me sounds like a civilian barracks and surely may not yield premium rent rates, except in places where flats are shared by individuals whose main bases are out of town. I'd reduce the volume to 8 flats if I were you and charge almost twice the rates on each flat when compared to the civilian barracks of 12 flats.

One more thing, if you decide to go for 8 flats, make sure you separate the plots into two different lots with 4 flats on each plot. This will reduce the barracks effect and can attract better returns.

Any good gentle man / lady?

Can you help me with need infor below

In building, From LINTEL TO DECKING is usually two coaches of block, what is the estimated number of block for a three bedroom flat, for this two coaches(levels)?

See attached ( in yellow), it will help to understand what I mean.

9ijaMan:

If you want to build houses with the UK standard room sizes then I'd say it's possible. It depends on the target market you are aiming at. Twelve flats on two plots to me sounds like a civilian barracks and surely may not yield premium rent rates, except in places where flats are shared by individuals whose main bases are out of town. I'd reduce the volume to 8 flats if I were you and charge almost twice the rates on each flat when compared to the civilian barracks of 12 flats.

One more thing, if you decide to go for 8 flats, make sure you separate the plots into two different lots with 4 flats on each plot. This will reduce the barracks effect and can attract better returns.

Thanks a million, that makes much sense.