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AGAINST SECESSION : A TESTAMENT TO YORUBA LEADERS AND THE PROMOTERS OF ODUDUWA REPUBLIC

By Moses Oludele Idowu

I saw a video footage yesterday of a group of young Yoruba elites canvassing the creation of Oduduwa Republic. The spokesman claimed that they are not even interested in Restructuring, that it is late in the day, but the creation of Oduduwa Republic. Carrying placards they insist they are fed up with Nigeria and that Nigeria has been a setback for the Yoruba's because in 1949 when Yoruba's had the television even France did not have it. That Yoruba's were ahead of Korea in the 1950's but today we have been derailed by Nigeria.

These were their arguments, which as I will soon show are no arguments at all.
I write to you leaders of Yoruba's to warn you to be careful, extremely careful so that you don't make some fatal error that will set Yoruba's further back. The times have changed and we must address issues within the context of time or we shall fail in our endeavour. Some days ago I had an epiphany of a secession of Yoruba's and I am not surprised that some are making underground moves to actualise this end.
However, permit me to say some words for our consideration. I think it will be a serious mistake at this time for Yoruba's to contemplate secession from Nigeria and the repercussions will be grave if not incalculable. It was Albert Einstein who once said, "Condemnation without investigation is the highest form of ignorance." I believe we have done due diligence and proper investigation before this course of action? I hope the youths promoting this venture know the implications and consequences of what their actions would bring and spring in their time?

It is the Yorubas who say that when a child stumbles he looks forward but when an elder stumbles he looks backward to see the cause. Let us look backward and also forward to see why Yorubas have been stumbling in Nigeria and see the cause; we will be surprised who we would see. The enemy is ourselves. The enemy of the Yoruba is the Yoruba and secession will not stop the stumbling because it would only take the theatre to a different space.

I must tell you that I am opposed to any form of secession, unilateral secession of the Yoruba from Nigeria at this point in time. Soon you will know why.
However if other stakeholders agree at a Conference Table that the Nigerian project is no longer workable and there should be a mutual separation then that becomes a different thing.

Here are my reasons why I oppose any Oduduwa Republic at this time or any secession from Nigeria. I shall take this under three specific headings:

1. GENERAL ISSUES

A secession of the Yoruba from Nigeria or the creation of an Oduduwa Republic at this time would be wrong for the following reasons:

1. Yorubas made the required investment that made Nigeria possible. If you have read the history of nationalism and of nationalist struggles and agitations against colonial rule you will know that Yoruba's made more contributions than any other tribe or group to make Nigeria possible. Although Achebe claimed that Ibos alone fought for Nigeria independence in his badly- received, badly- edited divisive and tendentious book THERE WAS A COUNTRY, this claim cannot stand under scrutiny or faced with authentic history. The Macaulays, Paynes, Majas, Pearces etc and most of the names known to give trouble to the Europeans to force them to leave were Yorubas. Thus it would be wrong to agitate for Nigeria Independence and then turn away from Nigeria.
If it is not working, then make it work. This is the first argument against secession of the Yoruba from Nigeria.

2. The evils we complain about in Nigeria also exist in Yoruba land and among Yorubas. The young elites who want to take Yoruba's out of Nigeria complain of many evils in the nation. True. But these evils too exist among us and Yorubas are not exempted from them. Remember the Soka Hill discovered in Ibadan where human parts were being sold to rich clients for years - in Yoruba's land. Same also have been found n several other places in Southwest. An Islamic slave labour camp was discovered recently in Ibadan almost as bad as the ones in the North. Human "poultry " have been found in Akute, Ogun State, Abeokuta etc where teenage girls are kept by their super madam to be sired by young men to breed like rabbits to be sold to rich clients with much money and little sense. How about cultism and cultic warfare in Ikorodu, Lagos, Ibadan, Abeokuta which are regular features of news item?
In Yoruba land. So every evil in Nigeria exists also among us. Thus leaving Nigeria solves nothing, it only compounds the problems because it now spread the same evils on a small area.

3. The question should be asked: Why should we leave Nigeria at this time? If we are leaving, why are we leaving?
Because of bad leadership of Muhammadu Buhari and the APC. The major reason today causing this agitation was the misrule of the last five years under this government and the promotion of Fulani hegemony over the whole nation. So I asked should Yoruba's leave because of Buhari?
Really? Okay. Questions:
Who made Buihari presidency possible? Who elected Buhari as president of Nigeria? Not the Ibos. Not the South south people. It was Yoruba votes that brought this disaster of a government upon us, this "one chance" of a government upon this nation. In 2015 it was so and this error of a government was reinforced again by the Yoruba in 2019 in Ekiti, Osun, Ondo and Lagos where Buhari won. The Ibos rejected him both in 2015 and 2019.
So if Nigeria is becoming a failed state because of Buhari Yorubas have a hand in it. You cannot cause a problem and then run away from the consequences. Asking for Oduduwa Republic now is like that. You cannot leave while the house is on fire: your founding fathers asked for Nigeria from the British and you voted Buhari and financed him into office for which you now regret. Be brave, you cannot leave without first solving the problem you helped birthed into Nigeria.

4. Most of the problems that plagued Nigeria today are also caused by all of us including Yoruba's. Yoruba elites describe Nigeria as a failed state, a rogue state. In fact it is worse. It is a bandit state, a gargantuan occult republic run by syndicates and gangster collectives. Read Claude Ake, it is worse.
Yes, that is true but that is not the whole truth. Yoruba's too contributed to making Nigeria into the failed state that it is today. It is time Yorubas, we tell ourselves the truth. We love to tell others the truth but we should once in a while tell each other.
Sometimes we talk as if Yoruba is perfect as if there are no evils on our hands. We accuse Balewa of declaring state of emergency in the West. True. But would he have done that if we have not given him the occasions to do so? If they had not found a mole within us?
* Who betrayed Awo at the Treasonable trial in 1963? Who were the Prosecution witnesses, the judge that sentenced him "whose hands were tied "?
* Who betrayed Abiola to Abacha telling him all the movements of the man?
* Who traded June 12, to form political parties which they called Alliance for Destruction ( apologies to Gani Fawehinmi)?
* Who betrayed Diya to Abacha telling him what he did not say?
* Who defended the mathematical fraud of 122/3 = 13 in 1979 to foist that NPN gang, a consortium of robbers on Nigeria?
* Which chief Justice gave the judgment and said that judgment must never be referred to?

* Which military head of state ensured by all means that NPN won and told Nigerians before the elections that the " best candidate need not win the election "?
* Who imposed Yar'Adua on the PDP as candidate in 2007 and rigged him into office as President?

* Who drafted Jonathan, our Dr. "Clueless" from Otuoke whose mindless looting regime occasioned this "one chance" of a government under which we are now trapped?
Let every Yoruba son and daughter sincerely ask himself those questions above and ask who those people are whether they are Yorubas or not. If they are Yoruba's then Yoruba too contributed heavily to Nigeria's problems.
Do the promoters of Oduduwa Republic know this? Are they aware that their own parents and kinsmen are part of those who compounded the problems of Nigeria and made it, in the words of one British racist, "a nation where the worst never happens but the best is impossible." Oh Britain, treacherous Britain, the blood of Nigeria be upon thee!

All the problems we complain about in Nigeria Yoruba have their own share of them and even more than their own share in their formation, fruition, nurturing and development.
Take cultism that has now become the one single monster tearing Nigeria before the advent of kidnapping and ransom taking.
A Yoruba man brought cultism to the Nigerian Church. Yorubas brought cultism to the judiciary and the legal profession. And need I tell you that 7 young scholars started Fraternity in our universities, most of whom are of Yoruba extraction and parentage? That seed has now bludgeoned to cultism that has infested every campus, both teachers and students and out youths today.
Let me stop here.
My point is Yoruba's too have a hand in Nigeria's problems. If Nigeria is today a rogue state, a bandit state, we too helped in making it so just like the Ibos, Hausa-Fulanis etc. I refuse to blame any tribe for what has happened to Nigeria. We are all involved and we must all solve this together. Leaving the Union is defeatism and a nation is not built on defeatism or on frustration.

SPECIFIC ISSUES

I now address specific issues about the proposed Oduduwa Republic for your consideration.
There is a lot of fantasy, incoherent inconsistencies, phantasmagoria about a Yoruba nation.
Some people have a hidden agenda but they don't want to tell us. All they do is to couch their demand under the dubious revival of a glorious past in a supposed Yoruba republic. We should be careful.
We talk of the past as if the past is Eldorado's. It is not. We talk of Awo as if he was perfect and a saint. He was not. He was a great man, perhaps one of the greatest from this land but he is not god. He never saw himself as such. I am old enough to know him and to read his campaign speeches.
The man who was promoting the Oduduwa Republic from the video footage made some interesting statements. Funny and amusing.
He said Yoruba land had television before France. This is not a good argument, even if it were true.
I ask you, is television an achievement? Was television invented by a Yoruba man or woman? How much of the history of television do we know?
John Baird who invented it cried when he saw the havoc and the perversion of purpose that his invention was been used for as against the intended purpose. That is why it is amusing that in 2020 someone is crediting television as achievement. So i do not see how having a television in 1949 ahead of France gives us any cause for laughter.
Congo has printing as far back as the 18th century before many European nations due largely to Catholic efforts who needed it. Of what use is a technology without the know-how to operate it? Is the PDP a success because the GSM telephony occurs under their watch or because MTN came under their rule?
I am also surprised that someone is celebrating 50- storey in Dugbe, Ibadan as achievement. It is not, it is a bad investment, a developmental mistake. High rise structures are built where there is a constraint of land space. I should know. Ibadan or Southwest did not have that problem in the 1950's or even now.
These are the list of firsts Yoruba's are touting that they want to recreate the Awo miracle. This would be a fatal mistake because none of their proposed leaders is an Awo or in the mode of an Awo or an Aluko for that matter.
And times have changed.
Again I present the following for our consideration.

1. I ask a very pointed question: Would Yorubas live together? A foolish question, you would say. But not so foolish or insolent. The differences are there and the cleavages are there. Because we are in Nigeria often time we don't see them but they are there. In the Oduduwa Republic those differences will now come to the open and magnified. How then do we address them?
The Aladura scholar, Professor J.D.Y Peel noted during his research in Yoruba land in the 1960's that the differences between Yoruba sub tribe, the Ekitis, Ijebus, Egbas, Oyo's etc are as wide as those between the tribes of Nigeria. In other words, the Ekitis are as different from the Ijebus as the Hausa's are to the Ibos. If you have not observed this, you are not very observant. The white man was right.
Because we are together in Nigeria we don't see this but now in the Oduduwa Republic they will cone magnified. How will the Yoruba Republic handle them, because they will not go away.
Will Ijebus accept the rulership of the Egbas? Will Oyo's allow the Ijebus to lord it over them and continue with their exploitation from their bitter history? Will Ijeshas forget their ancient animosity to the Oyo's and what they suffered in their hands or revive them?
That a wound is covered does not mean it has been healed. If the Oduduwa republic becomes a reality you will all see the truth of what I am saying. All the major wars that have been fought in Yoruba land have been fought among Yoruba's themselves. Not outsiders. The Yoruba gods or demons do not destroy strangers, they destroy their own children. Soon you will see what I am saying.

2. We often speak of the Old Western Region as if it was perfect. There were injustices and racism but which we should not reopen for peace sake.
All the projects done by the Action Group government how many of them were sited in Ondo- Ekiti- Ijesha axis? Yet the cocoa plantation and money that made the West came substantially from there. How many cocoa plantation exist in Ijebu- Egbas axis, yet the projects were concentrated here. How just is that? Read Professor Ayandele's breakdown and judge for yourselves. So if there were imbalance even in those days of yore how are we so sure that Oduduwa Republic will not be a miniature Nigeria, with more problems but with less resilience to handle them?
The Itshekiri and Delta regions of Warri actually voted to leave the West and have their own region. If they were fairly treated why did they leave?
The old Ondo and Ekitis equally agitated to have their own state from the West because they saw that they were being exploited by the Ijebus and the Egbas in the West. Will all these now go away when we have Oduduwa republic?

3. We have also forgotten that exploitation is in the nature of man, whether white or black. There is exploitation among Yoruba's too.
Someone is collecting 15% of entire revenue of a state in the Southwest now. And we all know about this and nothing is done about it, yet you are complaining about Nigeria being a failed state. How are you sure Oduduwa republic will not be a greater failure? Which other parts of Nigeria does this happen?
How many states in southwest pay minimum wage? But the North is paying?
So who is the exploiter of the people, their own people?
How many states in the North pays obnoxious pensions to former governors, but southwest do. Which state started this racket?
These are the people and their cronies that will rule the proposed Oduduwa republic. Not the brains but the dregs and the race of usurpers who have profited from years of unrestrained looting of the public till.

4. Have you asked yourself, where is the industrial base that we will use for take off. Virtually all the viable banks, industries etc in Lagos- Ibadan axis today are owned by strangers, not Yoruba's. Have you thought of this?
Rome did not collapse in one day, it was gradual. Yoruba's are yet to see that they are in big mess, far bigger than they envisage, not because of Nigeria but because of themselves.

5.. In the Oduduwa republic which traditional ruler will be supreme? Will Alaafin accept the supremacy of Ooni or viceversa? Or will the dispute continue?

6. Racism and Hegemony among the Yoruba's. There is another serious issue. In the Republic how do we handle the racism and hegemony of the Yoruba's. Perhaps you may not know, I tell you today that there is also racism among the Yoruba.
We have spoken so loud about Hausa- Fulani oligarchy that we have forgotten that there is also Egba- Ijebu hegemony over Yoruba affairs. We used to hammer Kaduna Mafia, but we also forget Ikenne Mafia.
Look at this. During the 2014 Conference, 6 slots was allocated to the Yoruba group, Afenifere and they shared the slits among themselves. Not a single slot was given to anyone to represent Yoruba's in Kogi and Kwara. But when they want to negotiate for power they remember they have their brethren in Kogi and Kwara and that Yoruba land extended to Jebba and Lokoja, but when it comes to representation they forget them. As the Americans say, "Taxation without representation is tyranny "- these are the men, schemers, promoting Oduduwa republic. Please think very well, my people in Kogi and Kwara states, so that you don't change one slave master for another.
What about racism among Yoruba's? It exists. Ijebu racism, that sees everyone as strangers except only they, even in the Church too.
Yorubas have told me, "Can we also call you Yoruba's, those of you from Kwara?" Not once or twice. As a lecturer I knew the trouble fellow Yorubas gave me. I have never heard of a Fulani man doubting the legitimacy of another Fulani because he came from a different place. Neither the Ibos or Hausa's or Ijaws. Only among the ones who call themselves the children of Oduduwa. That is why I wait to see how that republic will work as long as Yoruba's remain who they are. I wait.

THE REALITY OF WAR

I now come to my last issue and conclusion. Here I am talking reality. What does this sum to in real life?
Oduduwa Republic means war. If you don't know, know it now. There cannot be an Oduduwa Republic unless there is a secession of the Yoruba from Nigeria and secession means war, unless two conditions subsist namely:

* If all the stakeholders too agree to go as in defunct USSR or
* If the secessionist group is the largest and the strongest and can bully the others.

The two cases above is not likely to happen,so the implications is war. I hope the promoters know this?
So I ask is Yoruba land today prepared for war with Nigeria?
Mind you,you will not be fighting not just the Fulani's or Hausa's but the whole Nigeria.
Why?
Because Lagos is strategic to Nigeria, to it's economy, prosperity etc thus whoever controls Lagos will not be allowed to leave Nigeria except at the cost of war .

2. Are Yoruba's prepared at this time to face all the regions at the same time? Do we have the wherewithal to prosecute the war?
Hausa's will fight you because they have said and boasted long ago that Yorubas are the next tribe they want to deal with. I heard this in 2010 in Zaria during my research. You will now play into their hands.
The Ibos will fight you because of the poison sown into them over the Civil War that Yorubas betrayed them, which is not true. But most Ibo youths believed this and that is what matters. Some will fight you desperately because you brought Buhari over them whom they have rejected and who has been, to be honest to the fact, an unmitigated disaster.
The Ijaws will fight you for removing Jonathan from power...
The Fulani will fight you for opposing their Fulani Republic on the back of Nigerian wealth.
The Middle belt may fight you for creating their misery through Buhari..
And so on.
I don't know how you will win this battle. I don't see how you can win all these with things as they are.
No, I am not a defeatist, I am realist.

4. Division among the Yoruba's. Even when there is unity success in battle is not assured, how much when there is division?
Are Yoruba united at this time? I doubt it. There are islamists who are even opposed to Amotekun and don't see anything wrong with Buhari, a fellow Muslim. Everything Buhari does is okay like our rubber stamp Senate. Islamists, there are islamists among Yoruba's. They will oppose and can even be the fifth columns in a war.
There are still politicians who are benefiting from Nigeria who have made investment towards 2023 and want to see their ambition realised. And they have their cronies, tools, aides, who control the press, the traditional power of the southwest. This will not be keen on any Oduduwa Republic. They can subvert it.
So with all these how do you win a war with Nigeria?

5. People who have never seen a war are usually happy and excited about war but war must be avoided at all cost. Unless it becomes inevitable.
As a Christian I am not a pacifist, I am a Just War theorist in the mold of Augustine and Martin Luther. I will fight if it comes to that, but not for an Oduduwa Republic that is now being promoted in view of all I have raised here.
No one is driving Yoruba's from Nigeria, so why leave? All the evils been enumerated Yoruba's too have a hand in them and if Oduduwa Republic is created today they will still manifest those problems. So what is the hazzle?
You only know when a war begins no one knows when it would end. Think of the Sudanian Civil War.
I warn these youths and elites promoting this venture to tread softly. It is better not to fight than to fight and win. War is evil. Only when it is Just War as conceptualized by Cicero, Augustine etc. A just war is any war fought to stop aggression or remove the cause of evil. My next article will be on this.

CONCLUSION

In view of all I have said here I think the time is not right for a secession. We should promote and canvass Sovereign National Conference where we can have a return to regionalism or even a confederal arrangement mutually agreed upon.
We did not have a civil war in 1993 yet we brought down the military without firing a shot. That is power.
We don't need a revolution of fighting, that is what brought us here. What we need is a revolution of perception, to quote David Icke.
Fighting changes nothing. You become what you fight.
Gandhi brought down a British empire in India without firing a shot. That is what we need.
The problem of Nigeria is that we have never really had a government worth its name. We have no leaders but mascaras, jesters and clowns. Most of what we blame on Nigeria are actually troubles caused by misleadership.
But hatred should not be reason to leave a nation. You cannot found a nation on hatred, frustration, mutual antagonism. That is why the Oduduwa republic promoters should watch it. Nations are built on ideals, values, ethos, truths, vision not hate, mutual antagonism, misgivings etc. That is what caused APC problem. They came together to float a party not on any ideology but on hatred of PDP and Jonathan. And now that Jonathan and PDP are no more in sight they deploy the same hate to each other and know not what to do with Nigeria. Look at Ogun State, Edo state, Ondo, state etc., they are fighting each other. Those who sow the wind reap the whirlwind.
Too bad.
Thanks for your patience, dear reader.

©️ Moses Oludele Idowu
mosheoluidowu@yahoo. com
( February 11, 2020)
All Rights Reserved

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too long for this early morning.

You didnt make any valid point
Just a lot of speculation and doom about the future that hasn't come.
Nigeria is a British experiment and fraud
The fraud was further deepened by the military who control oil wells
Stop sounding like some divine power created Nigeria, if Nigerians decides to have a round table talk on breaking Nigeria, the British would supply the military guns to kill ourselves, is it because they love us or because the fraud called Nigeria suits their greedy needs?
We are a new generation of Nigerians and we see through the sham that is Nigeria

Everybody needs to go dia seperate ways, forget all these story. If things no work why keep forcing it, British left the EU after 47 years.

This association is like a time bomb.

Fulani paid agent! We know your type, sowing discord among the people...

Irrelevant Episode.
Just return your payer's money
Oduduwa Republic is inevitable.
I see new better nations from insecured Nigeria

Legendhero often boasts about the Yoruba conquests in war in the olden days. Now another yoruba man is saying that even the conquests were against fellow Yorubas and so nothing to brag about a yoruba god killing it's own children.

However, I'm ashamed that the writer of this peace is a professor. The points he raised in his own defense are at most base and banal.

Even if secession isn't the best option considering the numerous intricacies involved, the writer failed to prove that his Yoruba nation's interest was best served in one indivisible Nigeria.

When I hear yorubas drumming for war, I go back and sleep.....



GEN IBB

To,
Engr. Moses Oludele Idowu
Mosheoluidowu@yahoo.com

The following is the title of an academic paper you wrote and presented in 2014 as stated below, and linked for reference here - https://www.academia.edu/27383709/Where_the_Rain_Began_to_Beat_Us

Where the Rain Began to Beat Us?
Voice of Jacob, Hands of Esau: The External Roots of Terror and Beginning of Religious Disaffection and Intolerance in Nigeria
(Paper presented at Center for Black Culture and International Understanding (CBCIU) and Osun State Government. "All-Comers Colloquium" Between 14-16 April 2014.

After reading your objection lately to the unilateral call for secession by sons and daughters of Yoruba, which to me sounded academic, I became curious and wanted to understand more about your academic credits and scholarship. My curiosity led me to this paper.

I did not go too far in my reading...I could not! Your discourse on the subject is a turn off and I abandoned the reading with impression that you are not grounded on the subject you presented. Far beyond that, it appeared that the paper itself was a sponsorship funded to spread an agenda. I came off with the same impression after reading your article of objection to Oduduwa Republic.

To highlight some of the giveaways that betrayed your motive in that 2014 paper I have reproduced just three points, all contained in the Introduction part, and to demonstrate that it would be a waste of my time to continue the reading past that first page of lies and deceits.

1 - Religion has made enormous contributions to the development of Nigeria in various fields. In his inauguration speech as Prime Minister in 1960 on the attainment of independence Tafawa Balewa acknowledged the role of the missionaries in the nation's development and eventual liberation. Most of the schools, colleges and medical centres were built and then manned by missionaries and their agents. These facilities attended to all citizens without any discrimination whatsoever.

My response to above; Tafawa Balewa may have said that as Prime Minister, and for political expediency...but it is truly a disservice for a scholar, and academician, presenting a public paper to repeat the lies and impress it upon a public audience as an ideal and lofty statement.

Here is the truth of the bolded - The facilities indeed discriminated and would not register into school any child unwilling to denounce Islam and accept Jesus. Using Yorubaland as example, parents quickly dropped Ibrahim, Mohammed, Abubakar from their children names and re-identified them as Fabunmi, Ogundele, Babatunde....and so on, to beat the system and give their children education.


2 - Islam had preceded Christianity to Nigeria and had been firmly established first in the Sokoto Caliphate from where it spread its tentacles to other parts of the North and even the South. A Jihad to propagate the faith in the Southwest had been waged in the eighteenth century but was halted at Oshogbo and defeated. However unlike Christianity Islam was spread by itinerant mallams and traders in the Southwest. Thus by the nineteenth century there was a sizable portion of Moslems in the south before the coming of Christianity. Towns like Osogbo, Ede, Iwo and Ibadan have begun to develop dominant Moslem populations.

Truth - Islam had been established, and practiced, in North and Southwest before the founder of Sokoto Caliphate was born.


3 - Thus up to the time of decolonization there was no major account of religious strife in Nigeria and even after independence.....

....Thus we can say that Nigeria never witnessed a major religious crisis up to 1980. Up to 1980 there was religious peace, accommodation, forbearance and tolerance in Nigeria. Up to this time the different faith-based organizations (Christian, Muslims and Traditional religionists) lived in harmony and there was no serious crisis save for some occasional skirmishes like the walk-out staged at the Constituent Assembly in 1978 by some 'Islamic fundamentalists' (apologies to Chinua Achebe) over the issue of Sharia. But there was no problem generally on religion until 1980 when things changed. But why?

The Truth - Religious conflict in Nigeria goes as far back as 1953, and in the case of the town of Tafawa Balewa, to 1948. The Igbo massacre of 1966 in the North that followed the counter-coup of the same year had as a dual cause the Igbo officers' coup and pre-existing (sectarian) tensions between the Igbos and the local Muslims.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_violence_in_Nigeria



Engr. Idowu, I urge you to focus on your earnings as an academic agent and accessory to Northern and Islamic agenda. Do not henceforth write an article with the aim of influencing opinion either amongst the youth or elders of Yorubaland. We have little tolerance for those already compromised and on payroll of North and sponsors in far away Arabia.

Cheers!

Thanks for the eye opener.More strength and wisdom sir

what a great write up.
deep and very insightful.

Very very useless write up. Well I'm not blame you .You still earning your monthly salary that is why you can't feel the heat.

Although Achebe claimed that Ibos alone fought for Nigeria independence in his badly- received, badly- edited divisive and tendentious book THERE WAS A COUNTRY

If Igbo no enter 4 the story it won't end well..lol

Who made Buihari presidency possible? Who elected Buhari as president of Nigeria? Not the Ibos. Not the South south people. It was Yoruba votes that brought this disaster of a government upon us, this "one chance" of a government upon this nation.

That's true

In 2015 it was so and this error of a government was reinforced again by the Yoruba in 2019 in Ekiti, Osun, Ondo and Lagos where Buhari won. The Ibos rejected him both in 2015 and 2019.

Tell your people

Yes, that is true but that is not the whole truth. Yoruba's too contributed to making Nigeria into the failed state that it is today. It is time Yorubas, we tell ourselves the truth. We love to tell others the truth but we should once in a while tell each other.

A Yoruba man brought cultism to the Nigerian Church. Yorubas brought cultism to the judiciary and the legal profession. And need I tell you that 7 young scholars started Fraternity in our universities, most of whom are of Yoruba extraction and parentage? That seed has now bludgeoned to cultism that has infested every campus, both teachers and students and out youths today.

1. I ask a very pointed question: Would Yorubas live together? A foolish question, you would say. But not so foolish or insolent. The differences are there and the cleavages are there. Because we are in Nigeria often time we don't see them but they are there. In the Oduduwa Republic those differences will now come to the open and magnified. How then do we address them?
The Aladura scholar, Professor J.D.Y Peel noted during his research in Yoruba land in the 1960's that the differences between Yoruba sub tribe, the Ekitis, Ijebus, Egbas, Oyo's etc are as wide as those between the tribes of Nigeria. In other words, the Ekitis are as different from the Ijebus as the Hausa's are to the Ibos. If you have not observed this, you are not very observant. The white man was right.
Because we are together in Nigeria we don't see this but now in the Oduduwa Republic they will cone magnified. How will the Yoruba Republic handle them, because they will not go away.
Will Ijebus accept the rulership of the Egbas? Will Oyo's allow the Ijebus to lord it over them and continue with their exploitation from their bitter history? Will Ijeshas forget their ancient animosity to the Oyo's and what they suffered in their hands or revive them?
That a wound is covered does not mean it has been healed. If the Oduduwa republic becomes a reality you will all see the truth of what I am saying. All the major wars that have been fought in Yoruba land have been fought among Yoruba's themselves. Not outsiders. The Yoruba gods or demons do not destroy strangers, they destroy their own children. Soon you will see what I am saying.

This guy has finished yoruba ooo.
You won't see them on this thread... Lol

The Itshekiri and Delta regions of Warri actually voted to leave the West and have their own region. If they were fairly treated why did they leave?
The old Ondo and Ekitis equally agitated to have their own state from the West because they saw that they were being exploited by the Ijebus and the Egbas in the West. Will all these now go away when we have Oduduwa republic?

Very deep and thought provoking. Unfortunately, I will rather be part of a failed Oduduwa republic than a thriving Fulani Islamic nation

Gandollaar:
Legendhero often boasts about the Yoruba conquests in war in the olden days. Now another yoruba man is saying that even the conquests were against fellow Yorubas and so nothing to brag about a yoruba god killing it's own children.

However, I'm ashamed that the writer of this peace is a professor. The points he raised in his own defense are at most base and banal.

Even if secession isn't the best option considering the numerous intricacies involved, the writer failed to prove that his Yoruba nation's interest was best served in one indivisible Nigeria.

To create a unifying state, you have to first conquer yourself. Only then can you conquer the world (Legendhero 2020).

Now to address your bolded statement:
First of all the Oyo empire was well coordinated with a system of governance which in itself is a monarchical system but it is structured like a democracy.
The Excecutive - Alaafin of Oyo
The Legislature - Oyomesis
The Judiciary - Ogbonis

These are few of the military expedition and conquest by the Oyo empire:
During the 17th century, Oyo empire rebuilt her territory and rearmed with armor and calvary after the issue with the Nupes.

Oba Orompoto led the war against the Nupe, obliterated them and made sure they never threaten Oyo ever again.

Oyo empire led a conquest southward from 1682 and extended her border to the coast with about 330km SW.

1728, Oyo empire invaded Dahomey, met with resistance but conquered Dahomey by 1748 and they paid tribute to Oyo. The empire then began trading with European merchants on the coast through the port of Ajase (Porto-Novo).

1764, a joint Akan-Dahomey-Oyo defeated the Asante army. We also conquered the Mahi territory North of Dahomey to mention a few.

All these jargons so that your people wont take their destiny in their own hands?

The main reason we yorubas are afraid of separation is because we Can't rule ourselves.


Do you know how we were killing ourselves before the colonial master.
Reason we lost kwara to fulani.

goodnessme1:
The main reason we yorubas are afraid of separation is because we Can't rule ourselves.


Do you know how we were killing ourselves before the colonial master.
Reason we lost kwara to fulani.

When an ibo man ashamed of his people writes under Yoruba. I just know he’s writing about his own ibo people.

The guy has made his points. Some baseless and some incisive. It is left for proponents to debate him. I’m proud of my people. We believe in realities not utopia.