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Re: Sagay: APC Leadership Deserves Blame On Bayelsa Governorship Conundrum by anonimi: 10:02am On Feb 17, 2020

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Re: Sagay: APC Leadership Deserves Blame On Bayelsa Governorship Conundrum by Racoon(m): 10:02am On Feb 17, 2020
Sagay :That is very wrong. What they should have done is to nullify the election and let the APC nominate another person. This whole of idea of the Supreme Court becoming electors of people who are defeated over those who are victorious is perverse and very wrong. 
Sagay have really lost his conscience & senses for saying the above rubbish.So what it INEC that asked the APC to field a candidate with dubious certificate for a governorship election?

Does INEC not released a guideline including when the political parties internal nomination processes should be concluded? So why should the APC hold others to ransom giving that this ugly trend have become the trademark of the ruling party.

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Re: Sagay: APC Leadership Deserves Blame On Bayelsa Governorship Conundrum by djoey89: 10:08am On Feb 17, 2020
solmus:
cool



Oshiomole was looking for popularity to win the peoples heart there by boycotting due process just to favour David Lyon a semi illiterate and his deputy a complete illiterate

why cant INEC verify the credentials as the constituition mandates them to? and why would Justice PDP Mary Odili outrightly disqualify a Governor because of his deputy even when it has being established that the Party actually owns the mandate and not the candidates

Now in Nigeria the voters effort at polling unit don't matter anymore, everything is left to two gangs at the supreme court.. Justice Odili lead faction, and Mallam Tanko lead faction

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the majority of blame lies on the party, they are meant to provide credible candidate, that said, due to the inept party to provide credibility, I absolved INEC of blame here, just that the chicken came to roast.
as for submission of party owning the mandate, this is a simple case of illegality, unlike the kogi situation which was the demise of the candidate. Apc presenting unqualified candidate leads to their candidature to be null and void. for a close example, a company can compensate a family with a job in the same firm if their worker is late but won't do so to someone who uses fake result to get a job.. pdp government should go on. imo state is more debatable but bayelsa is clear, but there is also a rumour of certificate forgery by the pdp deputy. interesting litigation.

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Re: Sagay: APC Leadership Deserves Blame On Bayelsa Governorship Conundrum by sammhi(m): 10:08am On Feb 17, 2020
thundafire:
Zamfara and Bayelsa the supreme Court awards victory to losers and taking electorates view out but Imo dey simply added the votes not counted and gave dey electorates der choice foolish Prof Itse
That's the penalty for not obeying law
Man city is to be striped of 2014 title and given to a loser ...That's how it is done .
If you field a wrong candidate in any thing and is found out you will loose . The USA lost the relay Goldl they won in 2004 Olympic and given to Jamaica because one of them took drugs ....It is the rule anywhere .
Problem is we are not used to obeying rules or we feel because we are in power we stamp on rules
The electoral laws is very explicit on it . It is the law
Let's uphold rule of law ...That's how to grow . Next time every party will scrutinized their candidate

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Re: Sagay: APC Leadership Deserves Blame On Bayelsa Governorship Conundrum by Kylekent59: 10:09am On Feb 17, 2020
nairavsdollars:
By Temidayo Akinsuyi



https://www.independent.ng/apc-leadership-deserves-blame-on-bayelsa-governorship-conundrum-sagay/
They are not to award victory to a man who people did not vote for.

But the man scamed them by his deputy forging his certificate.

Some people are just bias in life. It was a good thing the supreme Court found out about their evil forgery.

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Re: Sagay: APC Leadership Deserves Blame On Bayelsa Governorship Conundrum by Bet360198: 10:13am On Feb 17, 2020
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Re: Sagay: APC Leadership Deserves Blame On Bayelsa Governorship Conundrum by sammychimex(m): 10:14am On Feb 17, 2020
Because the party having presented candidates that are not qualified already disqualified itself, meaning they didn't participate in the election in the true sense o it.




solmus:
cool



Oshiomole was looking for popularity to win the peoples heart there by boycotting due process just to favour David Lyon a semi illiterate and his deputy a complete illiterate

why cant INEC verify the credentials as the constituition mandates them to? and why would Justice PDP Mary Odili outrightly disqualify a Governor because of his deputy even when it has being established that the Party actually owns the mandate and not the candidates

Now in Nigeria the voters effort at polling unit don't matter anymore, everything is left to two gangs at the supreme court.. Justice Odili lead faction, and Mallam Tanko lead faction..

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Re: Sagay: APC Leadership Deserves Blame On Bayelsa Governorship Conundrum by toolovely(m): 10:16am On Feb 17, 2020
Hypocrisy.... So because a party decided to do mago mago and used someone that forged his certificate then you will annule the whole election? I don't understand. Besides, this is a pre election matter. It's not a post election case.

So, what Sagay is trying to tell me is that if PDP had fielded someone with a forged results, and the court finds out they should cancel the whole election process and start all over again? Is it the fault of the court that APC decided to field someone who forged his certificate? ABI, our law courts are now turning sentiments to determine their cases?

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Re: Sagay: APC Leadership Deserves Blame On Bayelsa Governorship Conundrum by ForbesHomesNG(m): 10:16am On Feb 17, 2020
jarawa:
oshio baba
Why are they just discovering now that the APC had major structure and leadership issues?
Re: Sagay: APC Leadership Deserves Blame On Bayelsa Governorship Conundrum by AreaFada2: 10:19am On Feb 17, 2020
solmus:
cool



Oshiomole was looking for popularity to win the peoples heart there by boycotting due process just to favour David Lyon a semi illiterate and his deputy a complete illiterate

why cant INEC verify the credentials as the constituition mandates them to? and why would Justice PDP Mary Odili outrightly disqualify a Governor because of his deputy even when it has being established that the Party actually owns the mandate and not the candidates

Now in Nigeria the voters effort at polling unit don't matter anymore, everything is left to two gangs at the supreme court.. Justice Odili lead faction, and Mallam Tanko lead faction..

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It was a joint ticket. So nullification is in order. Precedent would be important to see if not ordering fresh election is correct or not. Precedent is very important in law.

Mary Odili was one of FIVE judges and she's not the Chief Justice to have the leeway to punish other judges who do not do her bidding.

It could have been 4 to 1 against Odili if other judges from across Nigeria disagreed with her.

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Re: Sagay: APC Leadership Deserves Blame On Bayelsa Governorship Conundrum by wink2015(m): 10:26am On Feb 17, 2020
hisexcellency34:
Pure truth. Oshiomhole refused to do his homework by checking if certificates presented by APC candidates are genuine but now he is blaming INEC and Supreme Court. Hypocrites

OSHIOMOLE GO SCHOOL?

He lack sound education and that seems to be making him do ODD THINGS within his party.

Na who go school value education.

Na who go school value certificate.

If Oshiomole is educational sound he would have bother to put the policy on ground to check carefully and verify each aspirant documentations.

Wike said it all !

Lack of sound education is still worrying Oshiomole.

Na only Mouth Oshiomole get !

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Re: Sagay: APC Leadership Deserves Blame On Bayelsa Governorship Conundrum by anonimi: 10:38am On Feb 17, 2020
sammhi:
That's the penalty for not obeying law
Man city is to be striped of 2014 title and given to a loser ...That's how it is done .
If you field a wrong candidate in any thing and is found out you will loose . The USA lost the relay Goldl they won in 2004 Olympic and given to Jamaica because one of them took drugs ....It is the rule anywhere .
Problem is we are not used to obeying rules or we feel because we are in power we stamp on rules
The electoral laws is very explicit on it . It is the law
Let's uphold rule of law ...That's how to grow . Next time every party will scrutinized their candidate

The bold part is very true for most Niegrians and especially so since we recycled a military dictator as civilian president faking to be a democrat.


www.nairaland.com/attachments/2094760_b60dd09cqaan3fk_jpeg95853abb113413e275972c0eedfc3dad

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Re: Sagay: APC Leadership Deserves Blame On Bayelsa Governorship Conundrum by Correcto: 10:39am On Feb 17, 2020
Then after adding the votes, it became more than the number of registered voters.Clapp for ya self
thundafire:
Zamfara and Bayelsa the supreme Court awards victory to losers and taking electorates view out but Imo dey simply added the votes not counted and gave dey electorates der choice foolish Prof Itse

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Re: Sagay: APC Leadership Deserves Blame On Bayelsa Governorship Conundrum by Champneys: 10:44am On Feb 17, 2020
It shall not be well with APC and PDP!

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Re: Sagay: APC Leadership Deserves Blame On Bayelsa Governorship Conundrum by Nasir123(m): 10:51am On Feb 17, 2020
Very well said sir!
This man is one of the few people I respect in this current administration.

Very well said!
Re: Sagay: APC Leadership Deserves Blame On Bayelsa Governorship Conundrum by Libatine: 10:52am On Feb 17, 2020
Racoon:
https://www.independent.ng/apc-lost-bayelsa-due-to-oshiomholes-recklessness-idahosa/

Why is Adams Oshiomole was blaming INEC and police after his party foisted a man with dubious character like the deputy governorship candidate on the state?

Why is this fool not calling for the arrest of the criminal or the Hope Uzodinma-led APC governorship screening committee for knowing of this criminality but defiantly choosing to field him?

APC was disqualified before the elections, but they went ahead & participated after all they ruling party. There's no room for re-election or consideration because they never met the criteria set for the election.
I think the legal adviser should be sacked, while the chairmen of (state & national ) should resign.

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Re: Sagay: APC Leadership Deserves Blame On Bayelsa Governorship Conundrum by Zionbel(m): 10:54am On Feb 17, 2020
Prof Itse Sagay speaks like he's not a legal luminary. He speaks like he's a novice of law.
If he's a constitutional lawyer like he claimed, why does he act ignorant in the aspect of the constitution which states that governorship ticket is joint-gubernatorial candidate and deputy gubernatorial candidate? Where there's a problem with either, it affects both since it's a joint ticket and there's no room for substitution after the election is held. He should take cue from Kogi state where the governor elect died. His deputy wasn't sworn in. Rather, the party was given the opportunity to make one of the candidates in their primary election to replace him. That's how Yaya Bello came into power.

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Re: Sagay: APC Leadership Deserves Blame On Bayelsa Governorship Conundrum by AmazingELixir: 10:57am On Feb 17, 2020
solmus:
cool



Oshiomole was looking for popularity to win the bayelsa people's heart there by boycotting due process just to favour David Lyon a semi illiterate and his deputy a complete illiterate

why cant INEC verify the credentials as the constituition mandates them to? and why would Justice PDP Mary Odili outrightly disqualify a Governor because of his deputy even when it has being established that the Party actually owns the mandate and not the candidates

Now in Nigeria the voters effort at polling unit don't matter anymore, everything is left to two gangs at the supreme court.. Justice Odili lead faction, and Mallam Tanko lead faction.. once Tanko heads a panel its unanimous victory to APC and once Odili , Rhodes oe kekere ekun heads the panel its unanimous victory for PDP

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Before you continue embarrassing yourself in a public forum, I hope you know the supreme court only upheld the ruling of the lower courts ( Election petitions tribunal and the appeal court that have established abi initio that there was a case of forgery) and their ruling is based on a clear case of fraud perpetuated by candidates of a party running under joint ticket.

If what has happened in Rivers, Buhari certificate issue and Zamfara states did not teach APC any lesson nothing else will.

Those guys are lucky they ain't in jail for perjury.

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Re: Sagay: APC Leadership Deserves Blame On Bayelsa Governorship Conundrum by Nobody: 10:57am On Feb 17, 2020

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Re: Sagay: APC Leadership Deserves Blame On Bayelsa Governorship Conundrum by chocolatelady(f): 11:03am On Feb 17, 2020
Supreme court judges now are really setting a bad precedence by turning to electorates and declaring the losers winner. This is bad for Christ sake. I thought they said that the mandate belong to a party and not an individual. Why are they contradicting themselves with their recent judgement? If really that the mandate belongs to the party, why cant they allow Lyon to choose another person, nullify the election and order for a fresh election ?Its very painful that the electorates that voted the candidate were not remembered in their judgement. This is an election who governs a state and not any sport that some people are talking about now. U cannot compare election with sports. Its high time a team of 5judges sit down in their office and void the peoples mandate based on technicalities. Justice is denied and not served especially in Zamfara and Bayelsa State. Oshomiole equally has to be blamed for this and for me its better he resigned his position. This Bayelsa is one mistake too many. I am with Sagay on this . Supreme court judges should stop changing the will of d people becos people will now say that their votes will not count since supreme court will overturn their candidate.

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Re: Sagay: APC Leadership Deserves Blame On Bayelsa Governorship Conundrum by Libatine: 11:06am On Feb 17, 2020
Lostz:
so the party should go to election without a human to occupy the seat? you know there is a window for substitution of candidates and it has expired

I wonder! �
Bayelsa should be still because apc refused to do the right things @ the right time. Sentimental corruption!

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Re: Sagay: APC Leadership Deserves Blame On Bayelsa Governorship Conundrum by Eteka1(m): 11:11am On Feb 17, 2020
If the Supreme Court follows Section 140(2) of the electoral act, the right thing to have been done was to order for a fresh election. It's very clear.

APC should take this case to ECOWAS Court or even maybe International Court of Justice.

Re: Sagay: APC Leadership Deserves Blame On Bayelsa Governorship Conundrum by Ghostmode2two(m): 11:13am On Feb 17, 2020
Blame that your brief national leader who failed to check the certificates of the APC candidate. I think should be ashamed also for defending David Lyon who has fake certificate. David Lyon should be arrested for that and let APC bury their head in shame

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Re: Sagay: APC Leadership Deserves Blame On Bayelsa Governorship Conundrum by thundafire: 11:24am On Feb 17, 2020
Correcto:
Then after adding the votes, it became more than the number of registered voters.Clapp for ya self
it seems u didn't get my point
Re: Sagay: APC Leadership Deserves Blame On Bayelsa Governorship Conundrum by kiddkash(m): 12:09pm On Feb 17, 2020
hisexcellency34:
Pure truth. Oshiomhole refused to do his homework by checking if certificates presented by APC candidates are genuine but now he is blaming INEC and Supreme Court. Hypocrites
exactly there is a process called vetting. they use this to know all about their
candidate so that they would not be blindsided their opposition.
they skipped this step. now they are crying foul

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Re: Sagay: APC Leadership Deserves Blame On Bayelsa Governorship Conundrum by Bakos2y7: 1:07pm On Feb 17, 2020
You dont know the meaning of winners and loosers. Fake people dont win, they loose. As for Imo case, Tanko in collusion with APC robbed the people of Imo state.
thundafire:
Zamfara and Bayelsa the supreme Court awards victory to losers and taking electorates view out but Imo dey simply added the votes not counted and gave dey electorates der choice foolish Prof Itse

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