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Re: U.S Government Applauds Nigeria & ECOWAS. by Pharoh: 8:33am On Dec 26, 2010
kcjazz:

For Ouatarra, the Ivorian courts cleared him to contest the election and by the way he was a past PM. The issue is an election was won and lost, let the winner person lead the country. We will wait to see if a civil war will break out. Don't make Gbagbo a victim.

They surely have to clear him because his earlier disqualification is one the root cause to the crisis in that country and you are right, an election was won and lost but the questions remains.

Who won and who lost?

who has the final say to declare the results of an election in ivory coast?

The answer to those questions is the solution to this crisis.
Re: U.S Government Applauds Nigeria & ECOWAS. by Kobojunkie: 8:41am On Dec 26, 2010
Pharoh:

They surely have to clear him because his earlier disqualification is one the root cause to the crisis in that country and you are right, an election was won and lost but the questions remains.

Who won and who lost?
I think the Council already answered this question, by annulling the decisions of the INDEPENDENT electoral commissions, and installing Gbagbo as their choice. Gbagbo by the way has been sworn in as the next president.

Pharoh:

who has the final say to declare the results of an election in ivory coast?
According to the constitution, the people have a final say when it comes to selecting the winner of the election. The Constitutional council is the body that declares this result to the nation as a whole. The Constitution does not anywhere give it power to MODIFY or ANNUL in any way election results presented it by the INDEPENDENT election commission.

Pharoh:

The answer to those questions is the solution to this crisis.
At least we can agree on this.
Re: U.S Government Applauds Nigeria & ECOWAS. by Pharoh: 8:48am On Dec 26, 2010
In summary, that is what happened. The Constitutional Council threw out the decision of the independent party and instead declared it's own results.

They have the right to do that because the results is not valid anymore and the next stage was for them to take over the regularity of the election.

The constitution states definitively that an INDEPENDENT electoral committee has responsibility of conducting an election and producing the final results

They can only organize, supervise and produce the results as an after service but not the final result when there is a crisis or dispute. The final decision lies with the constitutional council to produce the final result but it is often left in the hands of the electoral body that organized the election. But when there is a dispute or crisis they take over from where the electoral body stopped as the Constitution says. There is no where in the world where an electoral body has a final say on the results of an election so please stop it because you are bigger than this.

The system is a democratic system

There was no point for a second round because the constitutional council has already declared gbagbo as the absolute majority candidate with the greater votes.
Re: U.S Government Applauds Nigeria & ECOWAS. by Pharoh: 8:54am On Dec 26, 2010
The Constitution does not anywhere give it power to MODIFY or ANNUL in any way election results presented it by the INDEPENDENT election commission.

They surely have the power to do that which has been provided in the articles below.

In case of events or of grave circumstances, notably of affect to the integrity of the territory, or of natural catastrophes rendering impossible the normal holding of the elections or the proclamation of the results, the President of the Commission charged with the elections immediately seizes the Constitutional Council to the end of declaring [constatation] on this situation. The Constitutional Council decides within twenty-four hours, to stop or to continue the electoral operations or of suspending the proclamation of the results. The President of the Republic informs the Nation by a message. He remains in [his] functions. In the case where the Constitutional Council orders the stoppage of the electoral operations or decides on the suspension of the proclamation of the results, the Commission charged with the elections establishes and communicates daily [with] it on the state of the evolution of the situation. When the Constitutional Council establishes the cessation of these events or of these grave circumstances, it establishes a new time period which cannot exceed thirty days for the proclamation of the results and ninety days for the holding of the elections.
Re: U.S Government Applauds Nigeria & ECOWAS. by Kobojunkie: 9:00am On Dec 26, 2010
Pharoh:

They have the right to do that because the results is not valid anymore and the next stage was for them to take over the regularity of the election.
What do you mean by the above? Take over regularity of the election? If the committed responsible for compiling and presenting the Council with the results does its job, and the Council disagrees with it, what part of the constitution do you have there stating the Constitutional Council now TAKES OVER the regularity of the election?

Pharoh:

They can only organize, supervise and produce the results as an after service but not the final result when there is a crisis or dispute. The final decision lies with the constitutional council to produce the final result but it is often left in the hands of the electoral body that organized the election. But when there is a dispute or crisis they take over from where the electoral body stopped as the Constitution says. There is no where in the world where an electoral body has a final say on the results of an election so please stop it because you are bigger than this.
I am sorry, are you sure you are following my own posts or coming up with your own there? Please focus!
There was initially NO DISPUTE, not until after the Constitutional Council took it on itself to throw out the results presented it by the INDEPENDENT Electoral commission, annulling votes, and then arriving at a result different from that presented it initially by the Electoral commission. In this case, the council did not annul the election or call for a recount, or even a runoff, which the constitution allows.

Pharoh:

There was no point for a second round because the constitutional council has already declared gbagbo as the absolute majority candidate with the greater votes.
What? There is no point for a second round because , WHAT? Lol
Re: U.S Government Applauds Nigeria & ECOWAS. by Kobojunkie: 9:01am On Dec 26, 2010
Pharoh:

They surely have the power to do that which has been provided in the articles below.



I suggest you RE-READ that part of the constitution so you can better understand how it does not say what you are trying to make it say there.
Re: U.S Government Applauds Nigeria & ECOWAS. by revolt(m): 9:05am On Dec 26, 2010
The same way they extolled sadam to enter Kuwait then turned around and destroyed Iraqi
Re: U.S Government Applauds Nigeria & ECOWAS. by invisible2(m): 9:28am On Dec 26, 2010
This is normal African mentality at work here, Gbagbo will love to blame the
north,
Quatarra,
AU,
ECOWAS,
UN,
USA,
France,
the electoral body,
Nigeria,
Johnathan,
Obama,
Sarkozy
any nearby person or structure
anything but himself and his selfish ambitions, next he will blame it on juju! Thats our way of reasoning. Till we call the man in the mirror to order, we shall continue to suffer.
Re: U.S Government Applauds Nigeria & ECOWAS. by Pharoh: 9:29am On Dec 26, 2010
What? There is no point for a second round because , WHAT? Lol

LMAO . . . i actually meant that the decision of the constitutional council is final and no need for any further election.

I am sorry, are you sure you are following my own posts or coming up with your own there? Please focus!
There was initially NO DISPUTE, not until after the Constitutional Council took it on itself to throw out the results presented it by the INDEPENDENT Electoral commission, annulling votes, and then arriving at a result different from that presented it initially by the Electoral commission. In this case, the council did not annul the election or call for a recount, or even a runoff, which the constitution allows.

There were election disputes and that's why the results was presented after the deadline from an hotel instead of the electoral commission office which makes it invalid and the constitutional council has to take over from there. \

What do you mean by the above? Take over regularity of the election? If the committed responsible for compiling and presenting the Council with the results does its job, and the Council disagrees with it, what part of the constitution do you have there stating the Constitutional Council now TAKES OVER the regularity of the election?

They have not done their job very well hence the crisis and what we are seeing today, the regularity of the election is provided in article 32 and they have to do that when ever there is a dispute according to article 38.
Re: U.S Government Applauds Nigeria & ECOWAS. by Pharoh: 9:45am On Dec 26, 2010
[b]The electoral commission head had said opposition candidate Alassane Ouattara had defeated Mr Gbagbo.

The UN chief, the US, the EU, and former colonial power France have also endorsed Mr Ouattara as the winner.

The presidential poll was intended to reunify the world's largest cocoa producer after a civil war in 2002.

The two candidates represent the two sides of the north-south divide that exists religiously, culturally and administratively, with the northern half still controlled in part by the former rebels.

On Friday Paul Yao N'Dre, chairman of the Constitutional Council, which validates election results, said Mr Gbagbo had won a little more than 51% of the vote.
Continue reading the main story
Poll Results

* Constitutional Council: Laurent Gbagbo 51%, Alassane Ouattara 49%
* Electoral Commission: Laurent Gbagbo 46%, Alassane Ouattara 54%

He said results in seven regions in the north, where Mr Ouattara draws most of his support, had been annulled.

"The irregularities are of such a nature that they invalidate the vote," Mr N'Dre, an ally of President Gbagbo, said on national television.
[/b]

The council decision is likely to cause considerable unrest because of the widely accepted view here and among the international community that Alassane Ouattara won the vote.

The head of the council is a key ally of Laurent Gbagbo, and the two go back to the early days of his Ivorian Popular Front party.

All eyes now turn to the nearly 10,000-strong UN peacekeeping mission which has an official mandate in certifying these election results.

At the luxury Golf hotel in the Rivieria area of Abidjan UN tanks protected the building where Mr Ouattara and the electoral commissioner are thought to be sheltering.

The mission said it had received reports of violence in parts of the west and north on election day, but that overall the voting seemed to be peaceful and any irregularities did not overturn Mr Ouattara's lead.

UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon also endorsed the original result on Friday, and congratulated Mr Ouattara "on his election".

US President Barack Obama and France's Nicolas Sarkozy issued similar statements, as did EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton who urged "all parties to the electoral process to respect the will of the people".

Mr Ouattara has declared himself the new head of state.

The BBC's John James in Abidjan, the country's main city, says the Constitutional Council's decision has come as a shock to many, especially the opposition.

Youths from the opposing camps took to the streets in Abidjan and other towns, throwing stones and burning tyres.
Armed guard

The military has closed the borders and international news sources are suspended. An overnight curfew is in place.


On Friday an aide to Mr Gbagbo told Ivory Coast's state-run TV that he would call for the "immediate departure" of the UN representative in the country, Choi Young-jin.

The African Union said it was "deeply concerned" by the developments.

There have been dramatic scenes since Sunday over the declaration of the results.

On Tuesday, Mr Gbagbo's representative in the electoral commission tore up the first batch of results as the commission's spokesman was about to announce them.

The electoral commission head, Youssouf Bakayok, then went ahead with an announcement on Thursday, speaking under armed guard at a hotel rather than from the commission's headquarters, declaring Mr Ouattara the winner with 54% of ballots cast.

Not long afterwards, Mr N'Dre said that, as the announcement had come after Wednesday's legal deadline, those results were "null and void".


Both the army and UN peacekeepers have been patrolling the streets of Abidjan since Sunday.

At least four people have been killed in election-related clashes in Abidjan this week.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-11913832
Re: U.S Government Applauds Nigeria & ECOWAS. by Pharoh: 9:52am On Dec 26, 2010
ABIDJAN (Reuters) - The head of Ivory Coast's election commission on Thursday declared challenger Alassane Ouattara provisional winner of a presidential run-off, but the top legal body rejected it and the army sealed all borders.

The Constitutional Council, the body that must ratify the result, said the commission's announcement was illegal.

Later, Ivory Coast's military sealed air, land and sea borders, without giving any reasons for the move.

The media regulator said it had suspended the signal for French broadcaster Canal Plus Horizon. Satellite channel France24 and Radio France International FM were also off air.

[b]After repeated delays due to wrangling within his organisation over the results, election commission chairman Youssouf Bakayoko announced that Ouattara had won the November 28 vote with 54.1 percent of the vote.

"The electoral commission has, in accordance with the law, handed over to the Constitutional Council the results it has received and validated, accompanied by the result sheets," Bakayoko said at a hastily-organised news conference.

President Laurent Gbagbo's party, which is seeking the cancellation of results from four northern regions that are Ouattara strongholds, rejected the result.

Soon after the election commission statement, Paul Yao N'dre, a staunch ally of Gbagbo's who heads the Constitutional Council, which must confirm the results, said the poll body had missed a Wednesday deadline to issue provisional results.

"Once it's expired, the election commission is no longer authorised to announce results," he said on state television. "It is the Constitutional Council that is authorised to announce decisions on the contested results."

The Constitutional Council has seven days to give a final tally but N'Dre said final results could be expected in hours.[/b]

According to the election commission margin, the council would have to cancel nearly 400,000 votes to swing the result.

The U.N. Security Council warned Ivory Coast that it was prepared to take "appropriate measures," a diplomatic codeword for sanctions, against anyone thwarting the electoral process.

Later, U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon said in a statement he "assures the people of Ivory Coast that the (U.N. mission) , will undertake all possible actions, within its mandate, to help keep the electoral process on track, to preserve peace and security in the country and to support their efforts to successfully conclude the peace process."

The United States also urged all parties in the Ivory Coast to respect the results.

"Credible, accredited electoral observers have characterized the balloting as free and fair, and no party should be allowed to obstruct further the electoral process," White House spokesman Mike Hammer said in a statement.

The International Criminal Court issued a statement on Thursday saying it would be monitoring acts of violence.

The vote, delayed for five years, was meant to reunite the top cocoa grower, split in two by a 2002-2003 war, but has instead exposed north-south divisions and sparked violence.

Bakayoko surprised reporters by walking into the U.N.-guarded hotel in Abidjan which Ouattara has made his base and reading out results which had been blocked despite intense international pressure for them to be published.


Cheers erupted from Ouattara supporters gathered at the hotel, which has been placed under U.N. guard with a handful of armoured personnel carriers outside. Ouattara called on Gbagbo to stick by pledges he made before the poll to respect the results and said he planned a national unity government.

A Western diplomat told Reuters Bakayoko made the announcement in the hotel, rather than the electoral commission, because he feared for his personal safety.

There are widespread fears the electoral dispute will erupt into violence between Gbagbo's and Ouattara's youth supporters or between Ouattara's supporters and security forces.

COUNCIL DECISION EXPECTED

N'Dre said that the Constitutional Council would analyse the results and announce a definitive winner. Earlier, a spokesman for the council said it had the power to annul results in some provinces and tally accordingly.


Gbagbo's party has accused the rebels still controlling the north of the country of intimidation and of rigging the poll for Ouattara. The rebels have denied the charge and Ouattara's party accused Gbagbo of blocking the results of a poll he had lost.

Tensions have spiked during the uncertainty.

Security forces shot dead at least four people at a Ouattara party office in an Abidjan suburb overnight, while members of Gbagbo's party said they had been attacked at their residence in the same suburb by Ouattara's militants, leaving some wounded.

An opposition leader said another 12 were shot dead by security forces in downtown Abidjan.

Fears of unrest pushed cocoa prices up over four percent in Thursday trade. Many Ivorian exporters have suspended business.

The yield on Ivory Coast's $2.3 billion Eurobond ticked slightly higher, reaching 10.68 percent compared to its pre-vote levels of below 10 percent.

(Additional reporting by Loucoumane Coulibaly and Ange Aboa in Abidjan, Louis Charbonneau at the United Nations; writing by Mark John; editing by Andrew Roche)

http://af.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idAFTRE6B13FN20101202?sp=true
Re: U.S Government Applauds Nigeria & ECOWAS. by saint1983: 1:01pm On Dec 26, 2010
I am ivorian and there something that people here don't know. In 2002 the war start at the north of Ivory Coast so many people fled the north to the south at the north there are no business opportunities so there many people living in the south of Ivory Coast. since 2002 the entire north of Ivory Coast is control by Alassane Ouattara and his rebellion. why there are problem here and 2 présidents. during the vote we all notice in ivory coast that the number of people subscribed to vote are less than the number of the people who voted for Outtara, and some cities in the north the number of vote for Alassane Ouattara are more than the people who live in these cities and rebels at the north force people to vote for Alassane. the UE notice that and made a declaration about it, so somevote have been canceled by the suprem cour of ivory coast who is the one who can say who is the winner and who is not and his decision is final is how law we have to respect it. that why the ivorien suprem cour has declare Gbagbo the winner and the UN declare Alassane Ouattara the winner at the hotel call "Golf hotel". Actually ivorian people don't mind Alassane Ouattara because he lost accounting how law, people are working that prove that there are no many people who support Alassane Ouattara in Ivory Coast that why Gbagbo is still there and that why Alassane Ouattara want CEDEAO force to come to Ivory Coast to make War to remove Gbagbo. but africans have to be aware that this issue can be resolve peacefully CEDEAO got 15 countries and in Ivory Coast live more than 800 000 of nigerian and 2 000 000 of burkinabé (Ivory coast has 26% of foreign people from west Africa) so force will put the west community in war because how law put Gbagbo as president final we can't do anything about it our army are clear they will fight untill the CEDEAO kill all of us. beacuse the ivorian army got more than 50 000 troops ready to fight and 3 000 000 of people ready to help them so I want you to see the picture.

Something your have to know:
Alassane Outtara is not Ivorian for peace, the Ivorian Suprem Court alowed him to be candidats so that his troops will trop guns
Alassane Ouattara is not Muslin he is Buddhist
It is not who is the winner or who is not the matter is that Laurent Gbagbo don't obei to France
In Ivory Coast the agreement between Houphouet Boigney and the france gouvernement is that : the Ivory Coast must do business only with France in 2000 when Gbogbo came to power he decided to do business with other countries (china, russian, Brézil, south Africa, a 50 % 50% business).
In 2002 A rebellion came via Burkina Faso and take the north of the country and ask Gbagbo to live the power. so the president Gbagbo ask Chaque Chirac to help him to fight the rebellion and he refused because for him it is an ivorian affaire the Nigerian gouvernment throught Obasanjo decided to help Gbagbo but the france people called Obasanjo and nothing happen so during 8 years for peace Gbagbo shared his gouvernement with all the opposition political parties members and some members of rebellion (the rebellion cause the death of 5 000 people the entire international community didn't talk about it). how matter the end of the election the France Gouvernement has choose before the begining of the election Alassane Ouattara so they won't give up.

This crisis can be resolve peacefully between ivorian any force will be replicated because Angola is ready to Help Ivory Coast if Ivory Coast is Attacked. what happen in ivory coast must be solve buy Ivorian. the two part were ready to talk and find a solution but when CEDEAO said they will use force now all discutions is other.
The solution was to share the gouvernement or to make a new vote so the entire community will see but Alassane Ouattara refuse because he know that he won't because all ivorian people know that Alassane Ouattara is here for the france gouvenment interest.
we can even use our law to force Gbagbo to live but Africans what they know is muscle not head

may the god protect Africa!
Re: U.S Government Applauds Nigeria & ECOWAS. by Pharoh: 4:03pm On Dec 26, 2010
I hope people will read the above account and see the truth, the same thing that happened in Liberia and Zimbabwe is at play again here.
Re: U.S Government Applauds Nigeria & ECOWAS. by Faeb: 4:55pm On Dec 26, 2010
saint1983:

I am ivorian and there something that people here don't know. In 2002 the war start at the north of Ivory Coast so many people fled the north to the south at the north there are no business opportunities so there many people living in the south of Ivory Coast. since 2002 the entire north of Ivory Coast is control by Alassane Ouattara and his rebellion. why there are problem here and 2 présidents. during the vote we all notice in ivory coast that the number of people subscribed to vote are less than the number of the people who voted for Outtara, and some cities in the north the number of vote for Alassane Ouattara are more than the people who live in these cities and rebels at the north force people to vote for Alassane. the UE notice that and made a declaration about it, so somevote have been canceled by the suprem cour of ivory coast who is the one who can say who is the winner and who is not and his decision is final is how law we have to respect it. that why the ivorien suprem cour has declare Gbagbo the winner and the UN declare Alassane Ouattara the winner at the hotel call "Golf hotel". Actually ivorian people don't mind Alassane Ouattara because he lost accounting how law, people are working that prove that there are no many people who support Alassane Ouattara in Ivory Coast that why Gbagbo is still there and that why Alassane Ouattara want CEDEAO force to come to Ivory Coast to make War to remove Gbagbo. but africans have to be aware that this issue can be resolve peacefully CEDEAO got 15 countries and in Ivory Coast live more than 800 000 of nigerian and 2 000 000 of burkinabé (Ivory coast has 26% of foreign people from west Africa) so force will put the west community in war because how law put Gbagbo as president final we can't do anything about it our army are clear they will fight untill the CEDEAO kill all of us. beacuse the ivorian army got more than 50 000 troops ready to fight and 3 000 000 of people ready to help them so I want you to see the picture.

Something your have to know:
Alassane Outtara is not Ivorian for peace, the Ivorian Suprem Court alowed him to be candidats so that his troops will trop guns
Alassane Ouattara is not Muslin he is Buddhist
It is not who is the winner or who is not the matter is that Laurent Gbagbo don't obei to France
In Ivory Coast the agreement between Houphouet Boigney and the france gouvernement is that : the Ivory Coast must do business only with France in 2000 when Gbogbo came to power he decided to do business with other countries (china, russian, Brézil, south Africa, a 50 % 50% business).
In 2002 A rebellion came via Burkina Faso and take the north of the country and ask Gbagbo to live the power. so the president Gbagbo ask Chaque Chirac to help him to fight the rebellion and he refused because for him it is an ivorian affaire the Nigerian gouvernment throught Obasanjo decided to help Gbagbo but the france people called Obasanjo and nothing happen so during 8 years for peace Gbagbo shared his gouvernement with all the opposition political parties members and some members of rebellion (the rebellion cause the death of 5 000 people the entire international community didn't talk about it). how matter the end of the election the France Gouvernement has choose before the begining of the election Alassane Ouattara so they won't give up.

This crisis can be resolve peacefully between ivorian any force will be replicated because Angola is ready to Help Ivory Coast if Ivory Coast is Attacked. what happen in ivory coast must be solve buy Ivorian. the two part were ready to talk and find a solution but when CEDEAO said they will use force now all discutions is other.
The solution was to share the gouvernement or to make a new vote so the entire community will see but Alassane Ouattara refuse because he know that he won't because all ivorian people know that Alassane Ouattara is here for the france gouvenment interest.
we can even use our law to force Gbagbo to live but Africans what they know is muscle not head

may the god protect Africa!

Some of you will continue to talk stupidly and without an iota of shame. It is a disgrace that Black people from the same country can institute apartheid on themselves. You fools would make Hitler proud. Pack of barbarians!

I pray that your country is invaded as soon as possible by ECOWAS military forces to wipe out the last traces of "Ivority" introduced by the dead Konan Bedie an carried on by the various madmen that have ruled you ever since.

You people have been terrorising your own people, claiming that Northern Ivorians are foreigners. Lets see how your twopenny bully army stands up to the military might of countries like Nigeria. It will pay you to check out what a single ship like NNS Aradu can do to you from the sea.
You keep going to war over your apartheid policies? We will sort out your disgraceful behaviour. Fools.
Re: U.S Government Applauds Nigeria & ECOWAS. by aljharem11(m): 5:22pm On Dec 26, 2010
saint1983:

I am ivorian and there something that people here don't know. In 2002 the war start at the north of Ivory Coast so many people fled the north to the south at the north there are no business opportunities so there many people living in the south of Ivory Coast. since 2002 the entire north of Ivory Coast is control by Alassane Ouattara and his rebellion. why there are problem here and 2 présidents. during the vote we all notice in ivory coast that the number of people subscribed to vote are less than the number of the people who voted for Outtara, and some cities in the north the number of vote for Alassane Ouattara are more than the people who live in these cities and rebels at the north force people to vote for Alassane. the UE notice that and made a declaration about it, so somevote have been canceled by the suprem cour of ivory coast who is the one who can say who is the winner and who is not and his decision is final is how law we have to respect it. that why the ivorien suprem cour has declare Gbagbo the winner and the UN declare Alassane Ouattara the winner at the hotel call "Golf hotel". Actually ivorian people don't mind Alassane Ouattara because he lost accounting how law, people are working that prove that there are no many people who support Alassane Ouattara in Ivory Coast that why Gbagbo is still there and that why Alassane Ouattara want CEDEAO force to come to Ivory Coast to make War to remove Gbagbo. but africans have to be aware that this issue can be resolve peacefully CEDEAO got 15 countries and in Ivory Coast live more than 800 000 of nigerian and 2 000 000 of burkinabé (Ivory coast has 26% of foreign people from west Africa) so force will put the west community in war because how law put Gbagbo as president final we can't do anything about it our army are clear they will fight untill the CEDEAO kill all of us. beacuse the ivorian army got more than 50 000 troops ready to fight and 3 000 000 of people ready to help them so I want you to see the picture.

Something your have to know:
Alassane Outtara is not Ivorian for peace, the Ivorian Suprem Court alowed him to be candidats so that his troops will trop guns
Alassane Ouattara is not Muslin he is Buddhist
It is not who is the winner or who is not the matter is that Laurent Gbagbo don't obei to France
In Ivory Coast the agreement between Houphouet Boigney and the france gouvernement is that : the Ivory Coast must do business only with France in 2000 when Gbogbo came to power he decided to do business with other countries (china, russian, Brézil, south Africa, a 50 % 50% business).
In 2002 A rebellion came via Burkina Faso and take the north of the country and ask Gbagbo to live the power. so the president Gbagbo ask Chaque Chirac to help him to fight the rebellion and he refused because for him it is an ivorian affaire the Nigerian gouvernment throught Obasanjo decided to help Gbagbo but the france people called Obasanjo and nothing happen so during 8 years for peace Gbagbo shared his gouvernement with all the opposition political parties members and some members of rebellion (the rebellion cause the death of 5 000 people the entire international community didn't talk about it). how matter the end of the election the France Gouvernement has choose before the begining of the election Alassane Ouattara so they won't give up.

This crisis can be resolve peacefully between ivorian any force will be replicated because Angola is ready to Help Ivory Coast if Ivory Coast is Attacked. what happen in ivory coast must be solve buy Ivorian. the two part were ready to talk and find a solution but when CEDEAO said they will use force now all discutions is other.
The solution was to share the gouvernement or to make a new vote so the entire community will see but Alassane Ouattara refuse because he know that he won't because all ivorian people know that Alassane Ouattara is here for the france gouvenment interest.
we can even use our law to force Gbagbo to live but Africans what they know is muscle not head

may the god protect Africa!



my african brother, now i understand,,,, do not worry God will take control!!!
Faeb:

Some of you will continue to talk stupidly and without an iota of shame. It is a disgrace that Black people from the same country can institute apartheid on themselves. You fools would make Hitler proud. Pack of barbarians!

I pray that your country is invaded as soon as possible by ECOWAS military forces to wipe out the last traces of "Ivority" introduced by the dead Konan Bedie an carried on by the various madmen that have ruled you ever since.

You people have been terrorising your own people, claiming that Northern Ivorians are foreigners. Lets see how your twopenny bully army stands up to the military might of countries like Nigeria. It will pay you to check out what a single ship like NNS Aradu can do to you from the sea.
You keep going to war over your apartheid policies? We will sort out your disgraceful behaviour. Fools.
beaf,,beaf,,beaf kai no hope
i know you did not read his post properly!!!

let them do it themselves,,why would you want nigeria to invade

or am i missing something here,,,do you know that if nigeria troops are sent there, there will be raping and all sort of things will be done,,,,,why can't they do things by diplomacy,,,haba undecided

do you want the white people to keep ruling us

i doubt if u are from nigeria
Re: U.S Government Applauds Nigeria & ECOWAS. by Kobojunkie: 5:27pm On Dec 26, 2010
Pharoh:

LMAO . . . i actually meant that the decision of the constitutional council is final and no need for any further election.

There were election disputes and that's why the results was presented after the deadline from an hotel instead of the electoral commission office which makes it invalid and the constitutional council has to take over from there. \

They have not done their job very well hence the crisis and what we are seeing today, the regularity of the election is provided in article 32 and they have to do that when ever there is a dispute according to article 38.



Again, there was NO DISPUTE, NOT UNTIL the constitutional council decided to RE-ENGINEER the results to promote Gbagbo as Winner! So, if there was NO INITIAL dispute of the sort described in the Constitution, the question remains why did the Constitutional Council feel it needed to RE-ENGINEER the results presented it by the Electoral Council?
Re: U.S Government Applauds Nigeria & ECOWAS. by Kobojunkie: 5:30pm On Dec 26, 2010
saint1983:

I am ivorian and there something that people here don't know. In 2002 the war start at the north of Ivory Coast so many people fled the north to the south at the north there are no business opportunities so there many people living in the south of Ivory Coast. since 2002 the entire north of Ivory Coast is control by Alassane Ouattara and his rebellion. why there are problem here and 2 présidents. during the vote we all notice in ivory coast that the number of people subscribed to vote are less than the number of the people who voted for Outtara, and some cities in the north the number of vote for Alassane Ouattara are more than the people who live in these cities and rebels at the north force people to vote for Alassane. the UE notice that and made a declaration about it, so somevote have been canceled by the suprem cour of ivory coast who is the one who can say who is the winner and who is not and his decision is final is how law we have to respect it. that why the ivorien suprem cour has declare Gbagbo the winner and the UN declare Alassane Ouattara the winner at the hotel call "Golf hotel". Actually ivorian people don't mind Alassane Ouattara because he lost accounting how law, people are working that prove that there are no many people who support Alassane Ouattara in Ivory Coast that why Gbagbo is still there and that why Alassane Ouattara want CEDEAO force to come to Ivory Coast to make War to remove Gbagbo. but africans have to be aware that this issue can be resolve peacefully CEDEAO got 15 countries and in Ivory Coast live more than 800 000 of nigerian and 2 000 000 of burkinabé (Ivory coast has 26% of foreign people from west Africa) so force will put the west community in war because how law put Gbagbo as president final we can't do anything about it  our army are clear they will fight untill the CEDEAO kill all of us. beacuse the ivorian army got more than 50 000 troops ready to fight and 3 000 000 of people ready to help them so I want you to see the picture.

Something your have to know:
Alassane Outtara is not Ivorian for peace, the Ivorian Suprem Court alowed him to be candidats so that his troops will trop guns
Alassane Ouattara is not Muslin he is Buddhist
It is not who is the winner or who is not the matter is that Laurent Gbagbo don't obei to France
In Ivory Coast the agreement between  Houphouet Boigney and the france gouvernement is that : the Ivory Coast must do business only with France in 2000 when Gbogbo came to power he decided to do business with other countries (china, russian, Brézil, south Africa,  a 50 % 50% business).
In 2002 A rebellion came via Burkina Faso and take the north of the country and ask Gbagbo to live the power. so the president Gbagbo ask Chaque Chirac to help him to fight the rebellion and he refused because for him it is an ivorian affaire the Nigerian gouvernment throught Obasanjo decided to help Gbagbo but the france people called Obasanjo and nothing happen so during 8 years for peace Gbagbo shared his gouvernement with all the opposition political parties members and some members of rebellion (the rebellion cause the death of 5 000 people the entire international community didn't talk about it). how matter the end of the election the France Gouvernement has choose before the begining of the election Alassane Ouattara so they won't give up.

This crisis can be resolve peacefully between ivorian any force will be replicated because Angola is ready to Help Ivory Coast if Ivory Coast is Attacked. what happen in ivory coast must be solve buy Ivorian. the two part were ready to talk and find a solution but when CEDEAO said they will use force now all discutions is other.
The solution was to share the gouvernement or to make a new vote so the entire community will see but Alassane Ouattara refuse because he know that he won't because all ivorian people know that Alassane Ouattara is here for the france gouvenment interest.
we can even use our law to force Gbagbo to live but Africans what they know is muscle not head

may the god protect Africa!




At what point do people start to deal with what is happening today as just that, what is happening today, rather than digging back into history to pull so many unrelateds to justify what is happening now?

An election was conducted, mostly peacefully, and a winner was announced. Problem did not start until the Constitutional country decided to throw out the original results, so it could announced its own. What is hard to get in that? Why is everything a circus for us in Africa, and an opportunity to open up old wounds, especially those that have nothing to do with the issue at hand, just so we can justify RUBBISH
Re: U.S Government Applauds Nigeria & ECOWAS. by Kobojunkie: 5:40pm On Dec 26, 2010
Pharoh:

I hope people will read the above account and see the truth, the same thing that happened in Liberia and Zimbabwe is at play again here.

You are kidding me, right? Did you bother actually reading any of the articles you posted yourself? Cause I don't know if it is that you are still forgetting to post the source of the information you keep posting on here for us or something
Re: U.S Government Applauds Nigeria & ECOWAS. by Horus(m): 12:50pm On Dec 27, 2010
The Nigerian embassy in Cote d’Ivoire was attacked.
Re: U.S Government Applauds Nigeria & ECOWAS. by Mdot1: 9:03pm On Dec 27, 2010
Rossike, reading your posts made me sign up on Nairaland, just to thank you for striving to educate our fellow Africans. They need to be aware that the West-France, Britain have absolutely no interest in them. They're in Africa to get what they want and then leave.I'm no way in support of Gbagbo or Outtarra but I believe that Africans, sovereign nations have the right to pursue their goals without outside interference. The West need to F.ck off and leave Africa alone. You wonder why the Chinese are Xenophobic, it's because of things Western nations have done to them in the past ( see Opium). Nigerians need to wake up. They're only using morons like GEJ to achieve their purpose. Rossike abeg stop making sense! You make sense die but some ppl rather die defending their Masters.

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