Rgade:

You are making my argument broader than it is.
I only contradicted your equating 24 lashes to 24 months.
you're certainly correct, values are subjective.
But there are still absolutes.
Flogging someone for committing "adultery" is barbaric, there's nothing subjective about that.
Like having sex is a crime.
Flogging someone for criticizing the government or the states religion is barbaric, nothing subjective here.
And what's wrong with the 3 strike rule.
A triple violent felon offender is a serious unrepentant threat to the society and should be locked away forever.

I did not equate

at any rate on what basis do you dis -equate? How do we determine a penology exchange rate
I did not say anything is wrong with the 3 strike rule

Clearly you have comprehension difficulties
Flogging someone for adultery is barbaric in your view, .You fail to define barbaric and so there is nothing to discuss

It is clear you are incapable of heuristic un-dogmatic thinking and just like to echo packaged notions.
You accuse me of broadening the issue and then talk about who should be locked away for ever.
You are out of your depth here

omonnakoda:

The Quran copied most of its crazy laws from the even crazier bible

Don't speak in parable.
Show me the Bible reference Quran laws were picked from...

Your Allah is different from our own God.

Islam and the Christian religion are two opposite religions that cannot meet.....

The gods of hausa fulani are becoming civilised.

Glink2018:



Don't speak in parable.
Show me the Bible reference Quran laws were picked from...

Your Allah is different from our own God.

Islam and the Christian religion are two opposite religions that cannot meet.....

I am not Muslim so he us not my Allah both you and Muslims need to study your holy books better
What is the biblical punishment for Adultery?

passyhansome:
When will our brother over here abolish Boko Haram and give up Religious fanatism, born to rule mentality, Nigeria belongs to us mentality, and embrace wisdom

How About "Na we oyel money" mentality

Glink2018:



Don't speak in parable.
Show me the Bible reference Quran laws were picked from...

Your Allah is different from our own God.

Islam and the Christian religion are two opposite religions that cannot meet.....

Do you recognise this quote

"If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts, you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity"

omonnakoda:

I did not equate

at any rate on what basis do you dis -equate? How do we determine a penology exchange rate
I did not say anything is wrong with the 3 strike rule

Clearly you have comprehension difficulties
Flogging someone for adultery is barbaric in your view, .You fail to define barbaric and so there is nothing to discuss

It is clear you are incapable of heuristic un-dogmatic thinking and just like to echo packaged notions.
You accuse me of broadening the issue and then talk about who shoul6 be locked away for ever.
You are out of your depth here

Your views are as academic as they are hypocritical.
They would only look good in a text book, a recommended text for a very riveting and engaging theoretical academic course. But how practical.
Even you wouldn't apply your own philosophy and you certainly don't believe all that crap you've been writing.
I would wish to argue no further.

omonnakoda:
I am not Muslim so he us not my Allah both you and Muslims need to study your holy books better
What is the biblical punishment for Adultery?

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1 John 1:9 KJV


We don't stone or cut people's hand in church.....no pastor punishes you for any sin.
We only observe the contemporary law of the law. And we encourage congregants to obey the law of the land.

Just confess and forsake it.....then go ahead with your sincere life.

Glink2018:


If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1 John 1:9 KJV


We don't stone or cut people's hand in church.....no pastor punishes you for any sin.
We only observe the contemporary law of the law. And we encourage congregants to obey the law of the land.

Just confess and forsake it.....then go ahead with your sincere life.

So the Jehovah of the old testament has repented? Or is it a different deity?

The reality is Jehovah and Allah is the same blood thirsty genocidal deity

Rgade:

Your views are as academic as they are hypocritical.
They would only look good in a text book, a recommended text for a very riveting and engaging theoretical academic course. But how practical.
Even you wouldn't apply your own philosophy and you certainly don't believe all that crap you've been writing.
I would wish to argue no further.

Well you quoted me first. Let me enjoy my hypocrisy in peace.

The truth is you are out of your depth here ,throwing a tantrum changes nothing.

Soon prostitution will be legal in Mecca. damm!! all dem arab pussies.

Good! I hope they'll start accepting other religons n not the other way round. The real muslims are goin 4ward,unlike our northern zoes over here.

ogododo:
Saudi Arabia has abolished flogging as a punishment, the supreme court announced, hailing the latest in a series of “human rights advances” made by the king and his powerful son.

Court-ordered floggings in Saudi Arabia — sometimes extending to hundreds of lashes — have long drawn condemnation from human rights groups.

But they say the headline legal reforms overseen by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman have brought no let-up in the conservative Islamic kingdom’s crushing of dissent, including through the use of the death penalty.

The Saudi supreme court said the latest reform was intended to “bring the kingdom into line with international human rights norms against corporal punishment”.

Previously the courts could order the flogging of convicts found guilty of offences ranging from extramarital sex and breach of the peace to murder.

In the future, judges will have to choose between fines and/or jail sentences, or non-custodial alternatives like community service, the court said in a statement seen by AFP on Saturday.

The most high-profile instance of flogging in recent years was the case of Saudi blogger Raif Badawi who was sentenced to 10 years in prison and 1,000 lashes in 2014 for “insulting” Islam.

He was awarded the European parliament’s Sakharov human rights prize the following year.

The abolition of corporal punishment in Saudi Arabia comes just days after the kingdom’s human rights record was again in the spotlight following news of the death from a stroke in custody of leading activist Abullah al-Hamid, 69.

Hamid was a founding member of the Saudi Civil and Political Rights Association (ACPRA) and was sentenced to 11 years in jail in March 2013, campaigners said.

He was convicted on multiple charges, including “breaking allegiance” to the Saudi ruler, “inciting disorder” and seeking to disrupt state security, Amnesty International said.

Criticism of Saudi Arabia’s human rights record has grown since King Salman named his son Prince Mohammed crown prince and heir to the throne in June 2017.


The October 2018 murder of vocal critic Jamal Khashoggi inside the Saudi consulate in Istanbul and the increased repression of dissidents at home have overshadowed the prince’s pledge to modernise the economy and society.

(AFP)

https://punchng.com/saudi-arabia-abolishes-flogging-as-punishment/?

nice development

Glink2018:


If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1 John 1:9 KJV


We don't stone or cut people's hand in church.....no pastor punishes you for any sin.
We only observe the contemporary law of the law. And we encourage congregants to obey the law of the land.

Just confess and forsake it.....then go ahead with your sincere life.

These words were pronounced by Jehovah

Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man intimately. But all the girls who have not known man intimately, spare for yourselves


Is he now born again.

omonnakoda:

Do you recognise this quote

"If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts, you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity"

Is like you haven't taken your drugs this evening.

This development is a challenge. It teaches me never to compromise my religion (Islam).
Saudi Arabia is shifting away from the best law (Shari'ah) into democracy. Shifting from best to problems.

Not surprised.

Glink2018:

Is like you haven't taken your drugs this evening.

What drugs does your father take in the evening?

What's ongoing in this page is simply explained below



"And the Jews will not be pleased with you, nor the Christians until you follow their creed"
2:120

DaBillionnaire:
This development is a challenge. It teaches me never to compromise my religion (Islam).
Saudi Arabia is shifting away from the best law (Shari'ah) into democracy. Shifting from best to problems.

Not surprised.

And the Jews will not be pleased with you, nor the Christians until you follow their creed"
2:120

Ayilara1:
What's ongoing in this page is simply explained below



"And the Jews will not be pleased with you, nor the Christians until you follow their creed"
2:120

That is the problem with Islam it tends to see everything through the prism of enmity with Christians and Jews.

There are billions if people with NO CREED whatsoever who find all creeds objectionable and Islam particularly repugnant

Was it Jews or Christians that forced the Saudi to make this move.

Rather than proffer a view on flogging you are talking about Jews and Christians.

Jews DO NOT want anyone to follow their creed infact their is little room for conversion to Judaism because they largely shun that. If you had any education you would know that.
Judaism is based on the principle of being a special people inherited from your mother. You don't Join

Judaism has the same or similar teaching about corporal punishment
THERE ARE NO CASES OF JEWS FORCING ANYONE TO JOIN AT SWORD POINT UNLIKE ISLAM

Stupid people, the Islamic ways they've been adhering to that has worked for them bringing them to enviable position among all other countries of the world, they're beginning to ditch it.....

They should continue, till their people are as corrupt as the Nigerians, then they'll see how sweet poverty can be.

Ayilara1:



And the Jews will not be pleased with you, nor the Christians until you follow their creed"
2:120

Exactly, on point Bro!

Very soon
Saudi arabia would start praying
In Jesus Name
Amen

Very soon

Islam is violent

Yinmu

XshegzzyeeiX:
The last time I was flogged was in SS 1.
Anyway, this is a welcome development I must say.
Meanwhile, hunger have flogged vitalities off my body.
Abeg, generous Nlanders should help me with food.
Gtb: 01207-86306, O. O. A

ogododo:
Saudi Arabia has abolished flogging as a punishment, the supreme court announced, hailing the latest in a series of “human rights advances” made by the king and his powerful son.

Court-ordered floggings in Saudi Arabia — sometimes extending to hundreds of lashes — have long drawn condemnation from human rights groups.

But they say the headline legal reforms overseen by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman have brought no let-up in the conservative Islamic kingdom’s crushing of dissent, including through the use of the death penalty.

The Saudi supreme court said the latest reform was intended to “bring the kingdom into line with international human rights norms against corporal punishment”.

Previously the courts could order the flogging of convicts found guilty of offences ranging from extramarital sex and breach of the peace to murder.

In the future, judges will have to choose between fines and/or jail sentences, or non-custodial alternatives like community service, the court said in a statement seen by AFP on Saturday.

The most high-profile instance of flogging in recent years was the case of Saudi blogger Raif Badawi who was sentenced to 10 years in prison and 1,000 lashes in 2014 for “insulting” Islam.

He was awarded the European parliament’s Sakharov human rights prize the following year.

The abolition of corporal punishment in Saudi Arabia comes just days after the kingdom’s human rights record was again in the spotlight following news of the death from a stroke in custody of leading activist Abullah al-Hamid, 69.

Hamid was a founding member of the Saudi Civil and Political Rights Association (ACPRA) and was sentenced to 11 years in jail in March 2013, campaigners said.

He was convicted on multiple charges, including “breaking allegiance” to the Saudi ruler, “inciting disorder” and seeking to disrupt state security, Amnesty International said.

Criticism of Saudi Arabia’s human rights record has grown since King Salman named his son Prince Mohammed crown prince and heir to the throne in June 2017.


The October 2018 murder of vocal critic Jamal Khashoggi inside the Saudi consulate in Istanbul and the increased repression of dissidents at home have overshadowed the prince’s pledge to modernise the economy and society.

(AFP)

https://punchng.com/saudi-arabia-abolishes-flogging-as-punishment/?

Buhari followers will not like this news aswear !

Whyem15:
Good, but when will they abolish monarchy and move to democracy? Or when will they stop sawing people to bits in their embassy, or when will they s :-Xtop jailing activist, or when will they stop blowing yemeni school bus and starving the yemeni people?
The crown Prince's has been decieving the word with the sham he calls reforms so that he will be accepted and supported by people all around the world. For close to five years now, he has only allowed women to drive, allowed women to enter stadiums and abolished flogging. If he is serious about reforms, he would have released the thousands of political prisoners he jailed because they dared to criticise him. He would have stopped the war in yemen and he would have renounced monarchy and called for elections. He should stop being an hypocrite.
Laws are changed by Parliaments or popular referendums in the "civilised" countries he is pretending to emulate, not by a de facto leader. We will never know the public opinion of the saudi people but thousands of people who hates other people and see other peoples' cultures will come here to masturbate.
Some peoples defination of "civilization" is European culture, anything outside of that is uncivilized to them.

What does democracy do for you in Nigeria? Good governance naa koko jare.

[quThis goes to show that a leader cannot please all the people all the time. I was thinking that at least we appreciate his efforts so far, but from the looks of things, l am wrongote author=Whyem15 post=88837317]Good, but when will they abolish monarchy and move to democracy? Or when will they stop sawing people to bits in their embassy, or when will they s :-Xtop jailing activist, or when will they stop blowing yemeni school bus and starving the yemeni people?
The crown Prince's has been decieving the word with the sham he calls reforms so that he will be accepted and supported by people all around the world. For close to five years now, he has only allowed women to drive, allowed women to enter stadiums and abolished flogging. If he is serious about reforms, he would have released the thousands of political prisoners he jailed because they dared to criticise him. He would have stopped the war in yemen and he would have renounced monarchy and called for elections. He should stop being an hypocrite.
Laws are changed by Parliaments or popular referendums in the "civilised" countries he is pretending to emulate, not by a de facto leader. We will never know the public opinion of the saudi people but thousands of people who hates other people and see other peoples' cultures will come here to masturbate.
Some peoples defination of "civilization" is European culture, anything outside of that is uncivilized to them. [/quote]

Whyem15:
Good, but when will they abolish monarchy and move to democracy? Or when will they stop sawing people to bits in their embassy, or when will they s :-Xtop jailing activist, or when will they stop blowing yemeni school bus and starving the yemeni people?
The crown Prince's has been decieving the word with the sham he calls reforms so that he will be accepted and supported by people all around the world. For close to five years now, he has only allowed women to drive, allowed women to enter stadiums and abolished flogging. If he is serious about reforms, he would have released the thousands of political prisoners he jailed because they dared to criticise him. He would have stopped the war in yemen and he would have renounced monarchy and called for elections. He should stop being an hypocrite.
Laws are changed by Parliaments or popular referendums in the "civilised" countries he is pretending to emulate, not by a de facto leader. We will never know the public opinion of the saudi people but thousands of people who hates other people and see other peoples' cultures will come here to masturbate.
Some peoples defination of "civilization" is European culture, anything outside of that is uncivilized to them.

Democracy is not the solution to all problems. Your country that has been practicing democracy for 60 years is still wallowing in the doldrums.

gypsey:
Soon prostitution will be legal in Mecca. damm!! all dem arab pussies.

Wishful thinking lol

passyhansome:
When will our brother over here abolish Boko Haram and give up Religious fanatism, born to rule mentality, Nigeria belongs to us mentality, and embrace wisdom

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Born to rule mentality is good. It is a power move.

Blame those with quality education but low self-esteem who have relegated themselves to be slaves.
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Savages. When will they stop beheadings?