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waiting for JoAgbaje to come explain this one away as usual

OmoOlorun:

@X-Factoria. God is capable of defending himself. Moses did was seemed wrong in the eyes of the public. He was condemned by his siblings. God descended on them with punishment. Miriam became leprous, Aaron was spared because he was the high priest. Let the one who called Pastor Chris deal with him. You talk so much as if you are a saint. If you are not 100% sinless, you are treading on dangerous grounds. God is watching all of us in this matter to see how we apply scriptures. If it was in this age and time that people brought all their earnings to church like in the days of the Apostles, people like yourself would go wild in the press. Ananias and Sapphira in Acts 5:1-11 held back part of their takings on a land sale and it was considered lying to the Holy Ghost. They were struck dead on the spot. What would you call that in this your jet age? You cannot be smarter than God. Let Him defend Himself, let Him call Pastor Chris to question. I would stay out of the firing line if I were you.

Joagbaje:

@cold ,

I am not defending anything , I only stated the intention of the church. The press has been malicious .  Why is the emphasis on money and not seat reservation which is the purpose. If anybody come and ask me that a church was charging people money at the gate to enter church and whoever can't pay the money would be turned back! I will say that the  church is in error. So I'm not surprise at the responses of these ministers, the press tells them half truth. 

But the story is not like that. Have there not been Christian conferences and seminars that people go to and register with money? Why is the press now painting wry g picture as though someone stands at the gate collecting money from people. Many critics don't have the real picture and I don't blame them , I would have felt that way. How can a poor man be turned away at the gate if the house of God because he didn't have 1,000 to PAY.  But that was not the case. People were dully informed that admission into that particular auditorium is strictly by seat reservation. Let's leave out the money part for a moment. Suposing  the ticket is free, won't people be turned back ?  But the church didn't turn them back, they were only directed to other halls where they could have seat without ticket. Those who obtain the ticket did it with gladness, it wasn't an imposition as press reported. No body was collecting money at the gate, you only show your seat reservation ticket and you are admitted. If you don't have a ticket ,it means if you go in, you will end up taking another person seat.so if the reservation had been free, many will still not gain access .it is not a must to be in that particular hall. Those who pay for it only see it as a seed which they are glad to sow .     

The truth is distorted from reservation of seat to "CHARGING MONEY AT THE GATE" any person will be offended at that. 
Maybe what the organisers did which seem best to them may not be the best, but we leave that to God. The intention was not to exploit people. Members of CEC are givers. If we had been told to sow finacial seed for the programme, we will gladly sow. It is outsiders that are complaining for us.

uglybetty:

I have always known  that there is something about him. I guess he hipnotises them. because even with this people will still go there, even with his bleaching poeple are there, with the retouched hair the same thing. Na wa ooooooh. Have you noticed that the wife is steady in London, how is he coping alone, as body no be firewood with all this babes around him. People, Shine you eyes and refuse to be hipnotised by any prophet of doom.

uglybetty:

I have always known that there is something about him. I guess he hipnotises them. because even with this people will still go there, even with his bleaching poeple are there, with the retouched hair the same thing. Na wa ooooooh. Have you noticed that the wife is steady in London, how is he coping alone, as body no be firewood with all this babes around him. People, Shine you eyes and refuse to be hipnotised by any prophet of doom.

uglybetty:

I have always known that there is something about him. I guess he hipnotises them. because even with this people will still go there, even with his bleaching poeple are there, with the retouched hair the same thing. Na wa ooooooh. Have you noticed that the wife is steady in London, how is he coping alone, as body no be firewood with all this babes around him. People, Shine you eyes and refuse to be hipnotised by any prophet of doom.

librangyps:

my new year resolution is to get myself a new church, christ embassy don fall my hand, if its to control crowd the seat reservation should have been free, this just confirms my suspicions and summises the fact that CE is a business venture, im out

Azibalua:

people love to listen to him because his words are so precious, from him inspired by the holy spirit you hear phrases like"i am the effulgence of gods glory[/color[color=#990000]]""i have been awakened to the fatherhood of god""i cannot be deceived "" the wisdom of god is working in me""all information in this world is accesible to me""when i speak i dissolve doubts" compared with all you said i think you sound more like a mother of doom[b][/b]

Intrepid!:

Bros need bail money for when EFCC go arrest am for money laundering!

cold:

@Uglybetty,you need not take these criticsms from these 'hypnotised' folks seriously.To so many gullible folks,there's nothin you'd say or do about pastor Chris that would change their minds.They'd rather die than leave that glorified shrine.To them pastor Chris is a god,in fact he is the God & they'd listen to no other.You'd only be dissipating your energy trying to convince them to retrace thier steps.The truth is Pastor Chris is an[b] Agent of Darkness[/b].My people,be warned,the signs are all there,open your eyes and see them rather than shouting people down.Be warned,be warned,be warned!He/she who have ears let him hear.

It is unlikely that a false prophet will openly admit to being false. Instead he will pose as a true minister of the Almighty. He will come as a 'wolf in sheep's clothing:' and will do many miracles in order to deceive the human race - even 'the very elect - if possible'
Matthew 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
2 Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
1 John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

Intrepid!:

Bros need bail money for when EFCC go arrest am for money laundering!

So this una EFCC, are they afraid? When will they make the move?

Intrepid!:

Wait for it,

Daniel_Gb:

[b]Jesus said this that during the End Time, we shall have those that will proclaim his name and do miracles in his name but her fake prophet, his in pastor Chris Church that everything in this world his tolerated, DRAWING TATTOOS, PUTTING CREAM ON HAIR(MEN), you need to see there so call youth leaders and the Pastor him self

Am not surprised he took Money from them

Many pastor want to be in Jeep by force and this is not what Jesus preached, if it was that Jesus will charge you before a Miracle his been done, will we all believe in Him, Jesus only came to teach us all the Doctrine and Commandment of God (which Moses failed to do), LET US WORSHIP THE LORD IN SPIRIT AND IN TRUTH & READ OUR BIBLE DAILY, that is what the Pastors are using to deceive us, they read more than we do and called there self a Man of God, a true Man of God will not make mouth and will not say too much but a word means thousands of explanation.

Many Church Worship Jesus Christ which i never know the reason why but for me i Bow down and Worship God and Prayed in My Heart every "Three Hours" and times that i am less busy and read my Bible for Guidance & Counseling.[/b]
jesus did not come to complete the work of moses rather he came to give life and life abundantly. which bible do you read

nuella2:

If pastor chris want to make money from people it will not be gate fee na. Healing school is the best place, cancer case #5m, HIV #3M, malaria #1000, salvation #1m. Kai for over 25 years that would have being mega bucks na . The intention was not to make money, if pst chris need #25m sef, its just a phone call and its done. He has members that are millonaires.

X-factoria:

Yes, just a phone call and members will go all the way to defraud their employers and bring the money to Christ Embassy like it happened before. Yes, just a phone call.