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Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by seunmsg(m): 3:30pm On May 19, 2020
jesmond3945:
then ask to know what convenant is paying their prof. So a prof of medicine would be paid 350k? Then what is he doing in the university? Let buhari go and teach medicine now. So I should collect 350k because I am teaching children of the poor? chai. I am now running a charity organization?

When some is appointed as a university lecturer, a salary package is offered. If the salary is not attractive, he or she has the right to reject the offer and walk away. You cannot accept what was offered to you and turn around to blackmail government in the way and manner you are presenting your argument.

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Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by Blue3k(m): 3:31pm On May 19, 2020
What's wrong with you mumu? You just from one foolish arguement to the other. It is easy if your tough like Ronald Reagan. Insubordination is a fireable offense. You pretending there's no qualified replacements in the workforce is laughable. If they're in such demand they can go thrive in the private sector.

jmaine:


Continue existing in a fools paradise....

You think it's easy to sack/punish Union members due labour conflicts?

When the acts establishing labour unions in Nigeria forbids such.

It's akin to folks, screaming seasoned Military Generals and top officers be sacked to recruits idiots baying for blood online...

Your points were baseless and stupid...

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Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by jmaine: 3:37pm On May 19, 2020
Blue3k:
What's wrong with you mumu? You just from one foolish arguement to the other. It is easy if your tough like Ronald Reagan. Insubordination is a fireable offense. You pretending there's no qualified replacements in the workforce is laughable. If they're in such demand they can go thrive in the private sector.


You are the inconsistent turd, it's obvious you can't defend your one dimensional output...

You can't sack them... I am sure that is a painful reality for you to live with...

Eyah! Pele.....

We have a stretched tertiary education system, and a nonentity somewhere feels sacking is a reasonable thing to do..

No wonder we have a certificateless merchant leading a learned generation...

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Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by jmaine: 3:38pm On May 19, 2020
seunmsg:


When some is appointed as a university lecturer, a salary package is offered. If the salary is not attractive, he or she has the right to reject the offer and walk away. You cannot accept what was offered to you and turn around to blackmail government in the way and manner you are presenting your argument.

Why did the NLC fight for the new minimum..? Don't you feel it was only fair they walk away if they were not satisfied with their paycheck..

Afterall, we have millions of jobless youths roaming the streets..
Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by jesmond3945: 3:40pm On May 19, 2020
seunmsg:


When some is appointed as a university lecturer, a salary package is offered. If the salary is not attractive, he or she has the right to reject the offer and walk away. You cannot accept what was offered to you and turn around to blackmail government in the way and manner you are presenting your argument.
I mean a prof who has been earning 600k since 2000 will now earn 350k in 2020? How does that sound?
Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by Blue3k(m): 3:41pm On May 19, 2020
Mumu dont cry now. If they dont want to comply with legal lawful directives they're free to go. There's nothing unreasonable about sacking insubordinate employees. Lol where in the labor laws does it say they're exempt from IPPIS or can't be fired for insubordination.

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jmaine:


You are the inconsistent turd... You can't sack them...

I am sure that is a painful reality for you to live with...

Eyah! Pele.....

We have a stretched tertiary education system and a idiot somewhere thinks sacking is a reasonable thing to do..

No wonder we have a certificateless merchant leading a learned generation...
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Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by jmaine: 3:43pm On May 19, 2020
Blue3k:
Mumu dont cry now. If they dont want to comply with legal lawful directives they're free to go. There's nothing unreasonable about sacking insubordinate employees. Lol

[ :Ds][/s]

Unfortunately, your noise ends here... Go and sack them... cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by Tobinrobin(m): 3:44pm On May 19, 2020
sonofthunder:

Thank you sir. Most people are listening to the FG's part of the story but no one wants to listen to ASUU.

Yes sir. I mean the lecturers are kinda shady as well but why are they talking about them alone? Why not the lawmakers & their excesses?
Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by Blue3k(m): 3:45pm On May 19, 2020
jmaine:


Unfortunately, your noise ends here... Go and sack them... cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

Mumu did I say I'm going to sack them? I know foolishness might be a family trait but try to make sense.

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Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by seunmsg(m): 3:45pm On May 19, 2020
jmaine:


Why did the NLC fight for the new minimum..? Don't you feel it was only fair they walk away if they were not satisfied with their paycheck..

Afterall, we have millions of jobless youths roaming the streets..

Read my previous interactions with that handle so as to understand the context of the post you quoted.

ASUU can also fight for a better salary structure just like NLC. In fact, that is what they have been doing since the union was created. Asking for better pay has nothing to do with IPPIS. If FG agrees to pay graduate assistant N1m monthly, IPPIS will definitely pay without any issues.

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Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by alhabeeb(m): 3:50pm On May 19, 2020
jesmond3945:
ok fine, if you were a prof after countless supervision, marking, teaching, research you were paid 350k per month how would you feel?
Bro, Beside this monthly take come of 350k, there is seperate money supervision per no of student (allowance)which varies from degree (UG, Masters and Phd) and normally pay at the end of each supervision. There's also Earning allowance for Teaching & Marking per number of course.

supervision and research goes mostly goes together in addition to various research grants in different fields.

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Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by gnykelly(m): 3:55pm On May 19, 2020
mayor1814:
It's so annoying to know that young guys and ladies sit down in computer room determining the salaries of lecturers and professors. These professors have been lecturing before 80% of IPPIS workforce were born.


Lots of deduction on the lecturers and professors salaries by IPPIS.

It's such a sad and pathetic situation.

those deductions are statutory. and those lecturer were aware before penning the terms of service.

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Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by jmaine: 4:01pm On May 19, 2020
Blue3k:


Mumu did I say I'm going to sack them? I know foolishness might be a family trait but try to make sense.

Lol... You are trying too hard to be an idiot..

Since the FG cannot do that, what will a nonentity like you do? Continue to scream sack them...

If you were remotely sensible, you won't be clutching at straws....

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Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by jmaine: 4:02pm On May 19, 2020
seunmsg:


Read my previous interactions with that handle so as to understand the context of the post you quoted.

ASUU can also fight for a better salary structure just like NLC. In fact, that is what they have been doing since the union was created. Asking for better pay has nothing to do with IPPIS. If FG agrees to pay graduate assistant N1m monthly, IPPIS will definitely pay without any issues.

Fair enough submissions...
Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by Blue3k(m): 4:07pm On May 19, 2020
Lol mumu I know it's your culture to be foolish but you have all the time. The FG can but chooses not to. After being having all your stupid arguments debunked all you can do is cry now. I'll do as please as usual thanks. You do the same mumu.

jmaine:


Lol... You are trying too hard to be an idiot..

Since the FG cannot do that, what will a nonentity like you do? Continue to scream sack them...

If you were remotely sensible, you won't be clutching at straws....

Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by jmaine: 4:16pm On May 19, 2020
Blue3k:
Lol mumu I know it's your culture to be foolish but you have all the time. The FG can but chooses not to. After being having all your stupid arguments debunked all you can do is cry now. I'll do as please as usual thanks. You do the same mumu.

You are entitled to be stupid online...So enjoy the thrill dunce..

While at it, dust your CV, you might just be fortunate to be recruited into one of the newly approved Colleges of Education...

At least you did be useful to your unfortunate family.
Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by ORIJIN201(m): 4:23pm On May 19, 2020
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Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by onyxo76(m): 4:32pm On May 19, 2020
Nwanyiogwashi:
Nigeria have many unemployed sound graduates all over the country I still wonder why federal government has not sack all this ASUU members that has refused to tender their bvn ,we continue to allow ASUU suffer innocent students all the time while their childrens are schooling in private universities. A serious government should have sacked all this useless ASUU members by now and employ you and sound young graduates as part of reforms in public universities
its not as easy as it sounds you can't just replace a sacked prof with a sound graduate as you put it, academics is a totally different ball game, besides you stand the risk of having your courses discredited until you have the minimal requirement to run a course.
Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by amagugm: 4:35pm On May 19, 2020
Most responses to this article just show how unbalanced Nigerians can be in their analysis. The academic institutions is the worst place to be for a thriving brain that wants to make money too. Very poor pay with accompanying public insults for delivering your goodwill and honest service to develop the citizens. Business or politics is the way forward. How many 1st class students still accept offers to teach after graduation? Those inside know better
Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by zikter(m): 4:49pm On May 19, 2020
Blue3k:


You're judt making statements you cant back up. There's no shortage of university lecturers in Nigeria. Lol university lectures are already complying only the stubborn ones would be fired. If you dont like the system you dont have ro work for the government take your talents to the private sector. You can register while bugs are worked out.
you are quite funny. Just wait for schools to reopen and see who will teach the students. Not like it is a good thing, but the government's policies on education are generally too poor. By the way, try keeping yourself up to date with information. I don't like giving information here as you would want simply because you can look it up yourself. It discourages mental laziness.
Again, for your information, ASUU grouse with the government is not even on IPPIS, this is just a side distraction. There are key agreements they signed which government has not fulfilled. Government is just grand standing on all these things. No ASUU members will be sacked, they will not enroll on IPPIS, and no school will resume until all the issues are sorted. If you think government can wake up and sack any of them, think again. ASUU is not like any other union. Ask OBJ and the rest, they did more than this but it didn't result to anything.
Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by LoveThemChubby(m): 4:59pm On May 19, 2020
Nwanyiogwashi:
Nigeria have many unemployed sound graduates all over the country I still wonder why federal government has not sack all this ASUU members that has refused to tender their bvn ,we continue to allow ASUU suffer innocent students all the time while their childrens are schooling in private universities. A serious government should have sacked all this useless ASUU members by now and employ you and sound young graduates as part of reforms in public universities
Can you listen to yourself? How many PhD holders are without jobs to talk of replacement? Are you aware that most univervisities are understaffed especially from lecturers with PhDs, hence the visiting lecturer phenomenon? Are you aware that it is not ASUU that does/will do the capturing of it members? Are you even aware of the perculiariaties of ASUU that they are fighting for?
It is just unfortunate how a lot of people like you just jump to unfounded conclusions. It's really disgusting! No wonder politicians have a feel day flipping us every four years because we don't think independently.
Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by zoedew: 5:07pm On May 19, 2020
ASSU why are you opposed to IPPS?

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Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by Miracle1991: 5:09pm On May 19, 2020
Ventura1:
Who are those fighting, if not the Northerners? They are scared of a process that will expose their shenanigans
e be like say northerner do you something o.
Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by jesmond3945: 5:14pm On May 19, 2020
alhabeeb:

Bro, Beside this monthly take come of 350k, there is seperate money supervision per no of student (allowance)which varies from degree (UG, Masters and Phd) and normally pay at the end of each supervision. There's also Earning allowance for Teaching & Marking per number of course.

supervision and research goes mostly goes together in addition to various research grants in different fields.
would ippis pay?
Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by Rutherford2019: 5:49pm On May 19, 2020
mamaafrik:
did you people do follow up to efcc level??,
What is the name of the v.c??
..
Prof Otunta
Even senate set up a committee for that during the time and the committee asked him to reinstate everyone and pay the salaries but he refused. .
He has been under probe since then but nothing is coming out because he has the backing of ASUU..in fact he has employed more people than he sacked
Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by Jess29: 5:54pm On May 19, 2020
Are they just waking up from their slumber
Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by Legendguru: 5:55pm On May 19, 2020
apc most corrupt
Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by Blue3k(m): 5:56pm On May 19, 2020
zikter:
you are quite funny. Just wait for schools to reopen and see who will teach the students. Not like it is a good thing, but the government's policies on education are generally too poor. By the way, try keeping yourself up to date with information. I don't like giving information here as you would want simply because you can look it up yourself. It discourages mental laziness.
Again, for your information, ASUU grouse with the government is not even on IPPIS, this is just a side distraction. There are key agreements they signed which government has not fulfilled. Government is just grand standing on all these things. No ASUU members will be sacked, they will not enroll on IPPIS, and no school will resume until all the issues are sorted. If you think government can wake up and sack any of them, think again. ASUU is not like any other union. Ask OBJ and the rest, they did more than this but it didn't result to anything.

Ok I you dont have proof. All you can do is make wild claims you cant back up. It's that simple your excuses dont matter. Buhari is weak leader so he probably wont get tough.
Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by edogu(m): 5:57pm On May 19, 2020
Rutherford2019:
I was suspended from Michael Okpara University of Agriculture Umudike in August 2017..
But since then I have not received any salary but my pension account is being credited till date
On January this year I applied for pension account statement and I couldn't believe that FG has been paying us salary but the VC is diverting it to his personal account
We are about 800 staff that were suspended..
On this month some of us sent our staff numbers,bvn, and other things required by FG , low and behold we were paid 2months salaries
Bros, how is that possible when MOUAU staff (striking staff) are yet to receive their salary. Pls brief me. I was affected too but lucky enough I was reinstated. However, my sister in-law wasn't that lucky.
Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by zikter(m): 6:01pm On May 19, 2020
Blue3k:


Ok I you dont have proof. All you can do is make wild claims you cant back up. It's that simple your excuses dont matter. Buhari is weak leader so he probably wont get tough.
Well, I showed you where to look for proof. I wonder why the tough leaders did not sack them as you clamour. May be they are all dumb or smarter than what you think. But as all of them did not take the sack option, it means they know what you don't know and see what you don't see. It is as simple as that.
Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by OlujobaSamuel: 6:02pm On May 19, 2020
Bolustical:
I saw a lot of ASUU members foaming in the mouth that day.

Las las, we only want a good country but we don't want to contribute what is legally required of us.

It's sad to see members of the academia under pay taxes, submit names of dead members for salaries and fail BVN tests.
Pls is that tweet also from one of our ASUU comrades? Hope e no dey sell handouts?
Re: IPPIS: Joe Abah On "How Ghost Workers Exist In Public Institutions" by Rutherford2019: 6:05pm On May 19, 2020
edogu:

Bros, how is that possible when MOUAU staff (striking staff) are yet to receive their salary. Pls brief me. I was affected too but lucky enough I was reinstated. However, my sister in-law wasn't that lucky.
..

Anybody who submitted his bvn,staff number and other things required by AGF even when he's not registered with ippis was paid
Those not paid failed to submit theirs that time and mind you FG is still paying the salaries of the suspended staff to the university because they are still university staff in Abuja point but someone is diverting it

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