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Re: HTML5 A Programming Language Or Not by Tim1212(m): 10:55pm On May 23
Ausrichie:

Name one programming language that does not manipulate data. Just one please. A computer without a programming language is useless, a CPU can only manipulate data because of the fact that it can execute code, I know a lot about computer architecture so I can tell you that what they taught you in school had flaws, okay Assembly (machine code actually) is what the computer understands so are you telling me that if I just dump 70kb of data on my hard drive and I don't instruct it to do anything it will just start processing the data the way I want?

Let me clarify you, am a scientist and senior software engineer @diib Nigeria. For over 7 years.

A programming language is a sequence of instruction given to a computer to perform a specific task.

While a computer is an electronic device that accepts data as input, display data as output, stores data and is capable of manipulating arithmetic and logical operation.

Every program is loaded on the RAM (main memory), process by CPU. CPU is directly connected to the RAM.
Programs from the RAM can now be stored on the ROM (hard drive), which can be retrieved. Program installed in your PC are directly stored on the ROM.

A program are sequence of instruction written in a programming language that performs a specific task.

Web document is a program developed by a programming language called HTML.

Who is with me.
Re: HTML5 A Programming Language Or Not by Tim1212(m): 5:41am On May 25
In Africa many neglect HTML because they think it's not a programming language, HTML plays high level of significance when it comes to creating a web document.

W3.org is an international organisation that standardize the HTML codes, and also maintain the web standard.
Web standard follows Web Content Accessibility Guideline WCAG maintained by W3C.com World Wide Web Consortium.

Google designed their search engine to follow the Web Standard in ranking websites that maintains WCAG.
Web document or web pages that is not well structured, may not rank high on Google search results.

Most of Google staffs work with w3 organisation, to ensure they maintain international web standard.
Google engineers work effortlessly to reward websites that are well structured.

HTML plays significant role in SEO, making it the most important language in the world of programming. However Search engine Optimization is the tailoring the structure of a web page or web document and its contents, have search engine in mind.


Search engine is a program that allow you to search for information that is stored in a database with a specific keyword or query. Search engine traditionally comes with a search box where user can enter a query.

When writing a web document, you ensure you provide search engine with enough information about your website.
HTML5 was created to help search engine understand the structure of a web document. Examples of HTML5 semantic element are: header, article, nav, section, footer etc..

HTML5 semantic element provides information to the program that index a web document.

That's is the main reason Africa website does not rank globally on search engine, because we think HTML is negligible in creating a website.

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Re: HTML5 A Programming Language Or Not by Ausrichie(m): 2:11pm On May 25
Tim1212:


Let me clarify you, am a scientist and senior software engineer @diib Nigeria. For over 7 years.

A programming language is a sequence of instruction given to a computer to perform a specific task.

While a computer is an electronic device that accepts data as input, display data as output, stores data and is capable of manipulating arithmetic and logical operation.

Every program is loaded on the RAM (main memory), process by CPU. CPU is directly connected to the RAM.
Programs from the RAM can now be stored on the ROM (hard drive), which can be retrieved. Program installed in your PC are directly stored on the ROM.

A program are sequence of instruction written in a programming language that performs a specific task.

Web document is a program developed by a programming language called HTML.

Who is with me.
And how does the computer process data, display data and store data? It does it without being instructed bah. Without a programming language (machine language) a computer is just a dumb piece of metal incapable of doing anything.

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Re: HTML5 A Programming Language Or Not by Tim1212(m): 2:36pm On May 25
Ausrichie:

And how does the computer process data, display data and store data? It does it without being instructed bah. Without a programming language (machine language) a computer is just a dumb piece of metal incapable of doing anything.

All applications that communicate with their server on smartphones and desktops are web document.

Applications like Facebook app, Twitter app, messager app, etc. Are all web document. And HTML is use to create a web document.

C++, C are very close to the machine language(binariy numbers) that is the reason they are use to create the Operating System.
So they can directly control the hardware of a computer.

Other applications software installed on the device is a web document, even MS office, etc.
Re: HTML5 A Programming Language Or Not by Tim1212(m): 2:45pm On May 25
If HTML is not use to create applications on smartphones and desktops, how then does this application communicate to server?

Web server delivers html documents to the client when requested and are stored in a directory that contains the website files.

HTML will always remain a programming language since it is us to develop software applications on smartphones and desktops.

You use javascript to make it functional.
Re: HTML5 A Programming Language Or Not by Tim1212(m): 10:08am On May 28
Most folks generally in Africa, only learn programming languages but are not knowledgeable how it was created.


I will explain, Internet was originally created to connect computers on a network " Galactic Network " in 1969. Computers can communicate with each other such as email systems, exchange of information to one another on a network.



Computer transmits electronic signals "binary digits" (0s and 1s), MS DOS was the computer we used in early days .it only runs on command prompt.


Tim Berners-Lee created HTML to access cross-referenced documents on a web server in 1991.Netscape engineers created the first web browser "Navigator " to render web documents.


That gave birth to world wide web. Local Area Networks gave way for computers to connect to web servers on their network.



Here in Nigeria The LAN we generally use are provided by Telecommunications companies. They give us access to communicate to web servers "Websites" ( because websites are located on a server) on their network. Wow interesting, internet is now interconnected computers to web servers on LAN or WLAN.




When you register for a domain name, and pay for web storage you will be given an IP address...I will explain how they function.


We use domain name to access a website, computer use IP address to access files on web server through TCP/IP.


Transmission Control Protocol simply fetch web documents on a server but break it into small units (binaries) and return it to the computer as a readable files.


http is the medium in which this transmission is executed, but could be visible (not secure) over a network. Https was invented to encrypt the transmission of data over a network.



Generally text files are the only files that can be transferred to web servers, web documents can only be text files.
Web server is a computer that delivers web document stored in a database.


Web server is generally a web storage and software that run it, with uninterruptable power supply connected on a network, generally known as Server Farm . See the pictures below


Wed storage companies we have are iCloud, xbox, cpanel, Azure, drives etc.


Programming language used to create a software application that communicates with servers is HTML.



All applications on your smartphone are web document because they communicate with servers.

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Re: HTML5 A Programming Language Or Not by Collinz2(m): 11:35pm On May 28
It is not a programming language because it only tells the browser what to do and not how to do. With the help of html the browser knows where is a header or a paragraph e.t.c.

Programming language instruct the computer what and how to do things. It is a set of rules, syntax and commands to instruct the computer.

What you are saying is like: dogs has fur and cats has fur so that means dogs are cats or cats are dogs, just reason it.
Re: HTML5 A Programming Language Or Not by Tim1212(m): 5:53am On May 29
Collinz2:
It is not a programming language because it only tells the browser what to do and not how to do. With the help of html the browser knows where is a header or a paragraph e.t.c.

Programming language instruct the computer what and how to do things. It is a set of rules, syntax and commands to instruct the computer.

What you are saying is like: dogs has fur and cats has fur so that means dogs are cats or cats are dogs, just reason it.


Thanks for your contribution , answer this question, is software applications like Facebook app and Twitter app installed on your smartphone web document or not, reason it bro.

High level language is used to control the hardware because it is closed to machine language "binary digits "
Reason it
Re: HTML5 A Programming Language Or Not by Collinz2(m): 2:31pm On May 29
Tim1212:



Thanks for your contribution , answer this question, is software applications like Facebook app and Twitter app installed on your smartphone web document or not, reason it bro.

High level language is used to control the hardware because it is closed to machine language "binary digits "
Reason it
You keep skipping and ignoring small but important facts just to ask irrelevant questions, even if html helps connect apps to webservers does that makes html instruct the the app or browser HOW to perform task

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Re: HTML5 A Programming Language Or Not by Tim1212(m): 10:12pm On May 29
Collinz2:

You keep skipping and ignoring small but important facts just to ask irrelevant questions, even if html helps connect apps to webservers does that makes html instruct the the app or browser HOW to perform task


Bro, kindly reason this as well. HTML is used to create a software, scripts are used to build applications that controls it. That is why they are called application software.. (applications within a software);

Applications (scripts ) controls the software (HTML documents) that run on user agent ( Operating system and web browsers)

I have experience enough in this field..a scientist and engineer for many years @diib Nigeria
Re: HTML5 A Programming Language Or Not by airsaylongcom: 11:31am On May 30
I am appalled at the writing style of an acclaimed Senior Software whatever.
Re: HTML5 A Programming Language Or Not by Collinz2(m): 12:52pm On May 30
airsaylongcom:
I am appalled at the writing style of an acclaimed Senior Software whatever.
the thing tire me.

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Re: HTML5 A Programming Language Or Not by Ausrichie(m): 5:40pm On May 30
Tim1212:
Most folks generally in Africa, only learn programming languages but are not knowledgeable how it was created.


I will explain, Internet was originally created to connect computers on a network " Galactic Network " in 1969. Computers can communicate with each other such as email systems, exchange of information to one another on a network.



Computer transmits electronic signals "binary digits" (0s and 1s), MS DOS was the computer we used in early days .it only runs on command prompt.


Tim Berners-Lee created HTML to access cross-referenced documents on a web server in 1991.Netscape engineers created the first web browser "Navigator " to render web documents.


That gave birth to world wide web. Local Area Networks gave way for computers to connect to web servers on their network.



Here in Nigeria The LAN we generally use are provided by Telecommunications companies. They give us access to communicate to web servers "Websites" ( because websites are located on a server) on their network. Wow interesting, internet is now interconnected computers to web servers on LAN or WLAN.




When you register for a domain name, and pay for web storage you will be given an IP address...I will explain how they function.


We use domain name to access a website, computer use IP address to access files on web server through TCP/IP.


Transmission Control Protocol simply fetch web documents on a server but break it into small units (binaries) and return it to the computer as a readable files.


http is the medium in which this transmission is executed, but could be visible (not secure) over a network. Https was invented to encrypt the transmission of data over a network.



Generally text files are the only files that can be transferred to web servers, web documents can only be text files.
Web server is a computer that delivers web document stored in a database.


Web server is generally a web storage and software that run it, with uninterruptable power supply connected on a network, generally known as Server Farm . See the pictures below


Wed storage companies we have are iCloud, xbox, cpanel, Azure, drives etc.


Programming language used to create a software application that communicates with servers is HTML.



All applications on your smartphone are web document because they communicate with servers.
This doesn't concern the argument though I have actually reasoned this argument. HTML indirectly instructs the computer because it tells the computer how to format pages which is indeed an instruction. It manipulates data by taking code as input then instructs the browser to format it in a particular way. By the way if you reason how programming languages are created it is a pain. If HTML isn't a programming language because it instructs a web browser then java isn't too because it instructs a VM not the machine directly. Let's all reason the argument.

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Re: HTML5 A Programming Language Or Not by alphatron(m): 9:04pm On May 30
your browser is written in an actual programming language. it includes a DOM tree and a parser that reads HTML and a rendering engine that shows what you see on your screen. Your 7 years of experience (definitely lies) Mr Senior engineer is trash if you can't comprehend this. HTML is no programming language it doesn't even come close

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Re: HTML5 A Programming Language Or Not by Tim1212(m): 9:34am
Ausrichie:

This doesn't concern the argument though I have actually reasoned this argument. HTML indirectly instructs the computer because it tells the computer how to format pages which is indeed an instruction. It manipulates data by taking code as input then instructs the browser to format it in a particular way. By the way if you reason how programming languages are created it is a pain. If HTML isn't a programming language because it instructs a web browser then java isn't too because it instructs a VM not the machine directly. Let's all reason the argument.

You have proven to be a good researcher in programming and great critical thinker.

Send me an email tim@diib.com, I will like to have a team discussion with you.
Re: HTML5 A Programming Language Or Not by Tim1212(m): 9:49am
alphatron:
your browser is written in an actual programming language. it includes a DOM tree and a parser that reads HTML and a rendering engine that shows what you see on your screen. Your 7 years of experience (definitely lies) Mr Senior engineer is trash if you can't comprehend this. HTML is no programming language it doesn't even come close

Thanks for your contribution, then tell us what is a programming language.
Re: HTML5 A Programming Language Or Not by Tim1212(m): 9:52am
airsaylongcom:
I am appalled at the writing style of an acclaimed Senior Software whatever.

Can you explain to us how internet works?
Re: HTML5 A Programming Language Or Not by airsaylongcom: 10:04am
Tim1212:


Can you explain to us how internet works?

With the way way you write, there's no need for me to
Re: HTML5 A Programming Language Or Not by Tim1212(m): 10:10am
airsaylongcom:


With the way way you write, there's no need for me to

Not to me, because I know it 100%. But for others to see your intelligence
.
Re: HTML5 A Programming Language Or Not by alphatron(m): 11:30am
Tim1212:


Thanks for your contribution, then tell us what is a programming language.

not to sound rude, you could easily Google it up if you truly wanna know sir.

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Re: HTML5 A Programming Language Or Not by Tim1212(m): 11:55am
alphatron:


not to sound rude, you could easily Google it up if you truly wanna know sir.

Sorry, folks can post any thing on their blog, search engines can easily bring it out.
Many false content on the web, no one controls the internet.

Just tell us from your own experience or knowledge as an expert.

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