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|Which Of Them Is Better To Learn (flutter Or Java) by Adeleye1212(m): 7:36pm On May 23|
Please which of them is better to learn between both of them
|Re: Which Of Them Is Better To Learn (flutter Or Java) by Nettybrown(m): 7:48pm On May 23|
|Re: Which Of Them Is Better To Learn (flutter Or Java) by SUPREMOTM: 9:03pm On May 23|
Flutter is not a programming language, it is an 'sdk' short for 'software development kit'. The programming language used in flutter development is Dart, created by Google.
Nobody should tell you what to learn and neither of them is better than the other, but let me give you a heads up. To create mobile apps with Flutter, you will need to install Android Studio and Android Emulator.
After successfully installing them, my 8GB memory laptop started lagging BADLY taking the fun away from the development process. I checked stackoverflow and I saw it was a universal issue. My point is, for smooth Flutter Development, you need at least 16GB of memory on your system.
Official hardware requirement is "3GB minimum and 8GB recommended memory", but I assure you it's a setup for frustration. If your machine has less than 8GB of RAM, forget Flutter.
|Re: Which Of Them Is Better To Learn (flutter Or Java) by dipopooo(m): 9:21pm On May 23|
SUPREMOTM:imagine, my RAM is 4GB I have been battling with the flutter installation for the past 3 weeks and AMD processor is another issue
|Re: Which Of Them Is Better To Learn (flutter Or Java) by SUPREMOTM: 9:42pm On May 23|
Someone said his 12GB system was always getting very hot whenever he runs the Android Emulator and you'll need multi-core processors (not dual core), another person with 16GB system said the minimum requirement should be 32GB of RAM because his 16GB system was lagging too: that's when I gave up and uninstalled everything Flutter that took me about a week and lots of data to install.
I'm not trying to discourage you o. I'm just telling you what lies ahead if you eventually get your system successfully set up for Flutter Development.
|Re: Which Of Them Is Better To Learn (flutter Or Java) by Adeleye1212(m): 9:59pm On May 23|
SUPREMOTM:Thank you very much sir
|Re: Which Of Them Is Better To Learn (flutter Or Java) by Adeleye1212(m): 10:02pm On May 23|
SUPREMOTM:Sir do you suggest I go for java
|Re: Which Of Them Is Better To Learn (flutter Or Java) by SUPREMOTM: 10:19pm On May 23|
"Java – Java is the official language of Android development and is supported by Android Studio. IT HAS A STEEP LEARNING CURVE.
Kotlin – Kotlin was recently introduced as a secondary “official” Java language. It is similar to Java in many ways but is a EASIER TO LEARN."
That's a quote from androidauthority.com
If what you want is Android Development, I'll advise you to learn Kotlin, but if you think your choice has to be between Flutter and Java, your hardware is inadequate for Flutter Development and you are left with Java.
|Re: Which Of Them Is Better To Learn (flutter Or Java) by Adeleye1212(m): 10:36pm On May 23|
SUPREMOTM:Thank you sir, I will go for kotlin
Do you have any course on kotlin that u can give to me
|Re: Which Of Them Is Better To Learn (flutter Or Java) by sammsimm(m): 10:41pm On May 23|
SUPREMOTM:my PC is not hot, I'm just having some challenges with the android emulator( unable to install haxm), and I can't run any project with my real phone connected
|Re: Which Of Them Is Better To Learn (flutter Or Java) by SUPREMOTM: 10:49pm On May 23|
I think I had to watch a YouTube video to get haxm installed very easily, but I don't have the link, sorry.
|Re: Which Of Them Is Better To Learn (flutter Or Java) by sammsimm(m): 10:58pm On May 23|
SUPREMOTM:I have watched series of YouTube videos on the haxm installation, still having error during installation. I think my processor is the problem(using AMD instead of Intel)
|Re: Which Of Them Is Better To Learn (flutter Or Java) by SUPREMOTM: 11:00pm On May 23|
Prior to the installation, I had to download the highest rated Flutter course on Udemy, about 16GB, but after the sluggishness it plagued my system with, I uninstalled it and lost interest in Android Development.
No, I don't have anything on Kotlin.
|Re: Which Of Them Is Better To Learn (flutter Or Java) by SUPREMOTM: 11:03pm On May 23|
If Android application development is your dream, Kotlin (or Java) is the way to go, but if you are interested in hybrid mobile application (Android and iOS from same code) Flutter is still the tool of choice.
Note that there are things that a Kotlin (or Java) developer will be able to do on Android that will be very hard/ near impossible for a Flutter developer same way a Swift developer will be able to do things on iOS that a Flutter developer might find near impossible.
Flutter will give you the benefit of deploying your application to both Android mobiles and iPhones at once, but only a Swift developer (for iPhone) and a Kotlin/Java developer ( for Android phones) can really be regarded as experts in each of those OS's.
|Re: Which Of Them Is Better To Learn (flutter Or Java) by Adeleye1212(m): 11:12pm On May 23|
|Re: Which Of Them Is Better To Learn (flutter Or Java) by ogunsinamayowa(m): 10:05am On May 24|
Try to enable vtx (virtualization in your bios settings). Note that haxm works only on Intel processor.
|Re: Which Of Them Is Better To Learn (flutter Or Java) by sammsimm(m): 11:42am On May 24|
ogunsinamayowa:Mine is AMD processor. Thanks
|Re: Which Of Them Is Better To Learn (flutter Or Java) by ugwum007(m): 1:53pm On May 24|
I have been developing apps using flutter SDK for quite sometime now and it have been quite smooth using my 6GB ram laptop.
I had to stay awake from Android studio and vs code is still the best for laptop of these specs.
Yes, flutter still have some teething issues but you can't take away it's performance.
Recently, I got a 16gb ram laptop and running Android studio with emulator is now very easy and smooth. So smooth that I can even play my pes 2018 on it.
If you have more than 8gb ram and your system is still lagging. Please check what dart VM is doing to your system.
There is a bug with dart VM where it almost eats up system memory.
The work around for now is to run flutter clean when this happens.
|Re: Which Of Them Is Better To Learn (flutter Or Java) by ugwum007(m): 1:54pm On May 24|
Dart VM is using up your memory especially when you are debugging.
|Re: Which Of Them Is Better To Learn (flutter Or Java) by SUPREMOTM: 1:57pm On May 24|
|Re: Which Of Them Is Better To Learn (flutter Or Java) by Deicide: 9:59am On May 25|
Most people open an Android phone these days, why not just use your Android phone as the emulator, that way saving more RAM
|Re: Which Of Them Is Better To Learn (flutter Or Java) by Taofeekdboy(m): 9:47pm On May 25|
|Re: Which Of Them Is Better To Learn (flutter Or Java) by SUPREMOTM: 11:58pm On May 25|
My system uses a solid state drive, not HDD.
Well, I wasn't really keen on making it work because I have other activities that keep me and my laptop very busy. Otherwise, I would have sought a way out or at least found a workaround.
I just wanted to see if I could squeeze learning Flutter Development into my schedule, but... maybe later.
Thanks all the same.
|Re: Which Of Them Is Better To Learn (flutter Or Java) by 404Dev: 11:01am On May 26|
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|Re: Which Of Them Is Better To Learn (flutter Or Java) by Emmyloyalty: 12:27pm On May 26|
It's better to use [b]React native[/b]for your cross platforms application than die on the yet slow-demanding flutter.
Since I was little I've been passionate about not dieing on unworthy things .
You can return to Flutter when it's become stable and well sort after
To the OP, my 2cent: don't start your dev journey on frustrating stuffs — they may exhaust your patience and affect your diligence.
|Re: Which Of Them Is Better To Learn (flutter Or Java) by Emmyloyalty: 12:35pm On May 26|
That's wisdom. But it's stressful doing so. Really stressful unless you find a clip or something to attach your phone to the top of your system.
My thoughts though.
|Re: Which Of Them Is Better To Learn (flutter Or Java) by Millerules(m): 3:50pm On May 26|
Clip as how?
You can simply connect your Android phone to you system, click on the play icon and when prompted select your phone from the options. The app will be installed directly to you phone after successful build.
You can disconnect and test your app directly from your phone. When it crashes, connect back nd simply check the log cat for possible cause. Make changes and repeat. You can do this after major updates to your code, becos it gets tiring sometimes.
But try and check the developer website on how to install your phone drivers before you can use it.
|Re: Which Of Them Is Better To Learn (flutter Or Java) by LSarcastic: 6:02pm On May 26|
This is for those complaining about system issues while working with flutter. The performance of a PC is not totally dependent on RAM. Before you decide to pick up technologies that are highly dependent on performance, take a look at what I call: The overall PC power. And this includes but are not limited to:
- Processor: I don't even need to explain this
- Clock speed: Clock speed is fundamentally a variable on how fast your processor works. Sometimes a higher clock speed will benefit you if you closely align its increase with your PC hardware.
- Number of cores: In many cases, an increase in the number of cores your PC has reduces the work load of the PC due to the increase in number of "workers". [Read generalization below]
- Compatibility between the tech and the processor you use. Those who work with video and graphics would understand this better. Before picking up something performance intensive to work with on your PC, really check out the requirements of such a software and rate your own. It's not all about RAM.
- RAM: Well, you know about this. RAM is basically a faster and readily available memory for applications to access. The higher the RAM, the higher the space available for the application to use. When you run apps like Android Studio on a PC with 2GB RAM, since the RAM isn't enough memory to run the app, some stuffs are stored on the ROM instead. This reduces the speed due to the fact that the ROM is not as fast as the RAM and serves more of an archive purpose than an on-demand purpose.
- Drive: For short, SSDs are way faster and better than HDDs.
Generalization: Most times, everything I wrote up there is relative. There are cases where fewer cores with a CPU is faster than high number of cores. But that depends greatly on whatever app you're running.
In short, don't ignore other requirements of the tech you're using. Don't just stare at the RAM and then hop off saying, my RAM is ×2 of what they even mentioned, I can run it.
|Re: Which Of Them Is Better To Learn (flutter Or Java) by Kelvin30286063(m): 6:11pm On May 26|
I don't know if 8gb ram is enough but I'm sure 12gb ram is enough
|Re: Which Of Them Is Better To Learn (flutter Or Java) by SUPREMOTM: 8:10pm On May 26|
You are right, I shouldn't have been too specific; after all, 8GB is the recommended value.
I just felt the need to raise the bar to a point where anyone shouldn't have any problems as well as to let anyone with 2GB to 4GB of memory know beforehand that they need an upgrade first to prevent frustration.
|Re: Which Of Them Is Better To Learn (flutter Or Java) by Emmyloyalty: 9:53pm On May 26|
Oga I know what I'm saying. It makes life difficult for you when you use your phone as an emulator during development. You either keep checking it from time to time on every changes which is tiring or wait till after major changes is done which gives you another problem with debugging.
|Re: Which Of Them Is Better To Learn (flutter Or Java) by Millerules(m): 10:01pm On May 26|
And how is what you jst typed different frm wht I said?
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