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Re: Igbos Are Gifted, Envied By Their Neighbours- US Dept. Of State (Kissinger Memo) by LOVEALAIGBO: 12:53am On Dec 10, 2023 |
Christistruth03: What’s not to understand! What he presented were: on the one hand, what some may term a mishandling of the aftermath of the initial coup by Ironsi….as well as the murderous actions of a few young officers whose idealism wasn’t matched with a well thought out and pragmatic approach to achieving the uhuru they sort, and who lacked a proper understanding and appreciation of the delicate ethno-religious settings Nigeria was precariously perched on; and on the other hand, we have a ethnic-cleansing and pogrom on a scale globally not seen since the 2nd world war! This pogrom went on in the north FOR WEEKS and in a country with a supposed central gov’t charged with the protection of the lives and properties of ALL it’s citizens! I’m talking about the support amongst the generality of northerners for an orgy of violence and murder visited on an entire ethnicity…..soldiers, men, women and children were all targeted with no exceptions! Mention was also made in the Kissinger papers of the coalition, or alliance if you like, between the west (Yoruba) and north (Fulani/Hausa and some naive others) during this period tens of thousands of innocents civilians were being hacked down all over the north! So you see, we have the actions and repercussions within and amongst soldiers which, though i condemn all murders, we can say was the military doing their thing; and on the other hand, we have tens of thousands of innocent men women and children being ‘justifiably’ murdered for the actions of a handful of officers! You see the stark difference!? Till today, none of those who took part in these acts of depravity and mass murder have been tried and convicted….and i’m also including the war criminals of the uncivil war that followed! Instead, what we saw was some of them progressing to be heads-of-state and owners of oil blocks….with some even having their mugshots printed on the country’s naira notes! Of course none of you care for justice as those murdered were ‘3rd class Nigerians’ who had to pay for the sins of their kinsfolk involved in the first coup! Those supporting this line of argument yet still open their buccal cavity to declare ‘there are no Igbo outside your 5 landlocked states’ come across as being quite daft but the fact is lost on them so why bother pointing it out!? In any case, all this is academic and a futile exercise in flogging a dead horse! Nothing will come of these type of discussions in the Nigeria of today, so the question now arises as to how those ethnicities concerned move forward as other ethnicities and countries who witnessed wars have moved forward! The hatred and disdain the Fulani and some Yoruba have for Ndigbo WILL NEVER END! I keep on warning everyone that we’re best off in different countries, and i particularly warn Ndigbo that if Nigeria somehow manages to falter and stumble on as a country, that those who see nothing wrong in the pogrom of ‘66 will continue to justify it even to your grand and great-grand children, and use said ‘Igbo coup’ as ‘justification’ for why they will continue to connive and plot to ensure no Igbo ever becomes president of Nigeria….even up to 150 years after independence! |
Re: Igbos Are Gifted, Envied By Their Neighbours- US Dept. Of State (Kissinger Memo) by Christistruth00: 1:15am On Dec 10, 2023 |
LOVEALAIGBO: If you believe that the Hausa and Yoruba hated you unjustly why did you go and kill their leaders without any Provocation? |
Re: Igbos Are Gifted, Envied By Their Neighbours- US Dept. Of State (Kissinger Memo) by tsdarkside(m): 1:35am On Dec 10, 2023 |
Totosweetdie: be careful trying to feel yourself better than others.... it never ends well for anybody.... |
Re: Igbos Are Gifted, Envied By Their Neighbours- US Dept. Of State (Kissinger Memo) by LOVEALAIGBO: 2:14am On Dec 10, 2023 |
Christistruth00: Admittedly, there were signs that showed how some Yoruba elite viewed Ndigbo, but said signs were seen as nothing more than the rough-and-tumble of Nigerian ‘politics’! It was when Awo showed his hand with his actions and pronouncements before and during the uncivil war that it became apparent some within the Yoruba political elite actually despise Ndigbo! The one of the Fulani was obvious from the get-go! I mean….if all the killings of Igbo in the north, pre-uncivil war, weren’t enough to warn Ndigbo that they’re hated by the Fulani and have no business sharing the same country with them, then the xenophobic stance of the Sadauna towards Ndigbo should have removed all doubt! You see, you’re doing exactly what i said in my last post…you’re using the actions of no more than two or three Igbo soldiers from the then Eastern Region to ‘justify’ the mass slaughter of tens of thousands of innocents in the north! At no point did Ndigbo conduct a plebiscite and vote overwhelmingly for the Igbo soldiers from their region to carry out a coup, never mind actually murdering anyone! The blame for what happened lays squarely with those who carried out the action and not their entire kinsfolk who you’ve termed ‘guilty by tribal affiliation’! 2 Likes |
Re: Igbos Are Gifted, Envied By Their Neighbours- US Dept. Of State (Kissinger Memo) by Odibembem: 5:25am On Dec 10, 2023 |
Easternsun2020: Why do Igbos always need validation like this to feel good? This is inferiority complex, they should stop doing this. No other tribe seeks such validation to feel good in Nigeria besides Igbos, it's a major character flaw. Political power is d most important. How come those that they are better than have subjugated them politically and been ruling over them? The Ibo man lacks tact, am sorry to say. An Edo or Akwa Ibom man would be president before an Ibo man 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Igbos Are Gifted, Envied By Their Neighbours- US Dept. Of State (Kissinger Memo) by Christistruth00: 7:48am On Dec 10, 2023 |
LOVEALAIGBO: Do you realize that it was the death of one man Archduke Ferdinand Crown Prince of the Austro Hungarian Empire that triggered the first World War? So why do you. Continue to Justify the murder of the Leaders of others including a Pregnant woman are you saying that is an act of Love on your part? 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Igbos Are Gifted, Envied By Their Neighbours- US Dept. Of State (Kissinger Memo) by ElSudani: 8:20am On Dec 10, 2023 |
Easternsun2020: "their cynical public relations use of the starvation has been brilliant". He couldn't even call it what it was. Cynical public relations in place of a sick propaganda of using the images of dead and dying children as a tool of propaganda when Biafra soldiers were well fed. |
Re: Igbos Are Gifted, Envied By Their Neighbours- US Dept. Of State (Kissinger Memo) by Brenbentondiaz: 9:17am On Dec 10, 2023 |
You want to know how? Lying, cheating and hypocrisy are the bedrock of ibo culture. So stating facts and truths are logically hating on ibos, because those are opposites of what they hold in high esteem. |
Re: Igbos Are Gifted, Envied By Their Neighbours- US Dept. Of State (Kissinger Memo) by Kafirbigot: 9:36am On Dec 10, 2023 |
Just Imagine a PIG being disturbed about cultures that dont give a fvvvvck about it? Brenbentondiaz: |
Re: Igbos Are Gifted, Envied By Their Neighbours- US Dept. Of State (Kissinger Memo) by Kafirbigot: 9:38am On Dec 10, 2023 |
You lost ILORIN without any propaganda... You lost your worthless inheritance by being a coward... Nobody appreciates you ...so keep obsessing over a tribe of people that wish to have their ntion, while you cling to unity as a parasite. Keep demolishing properties.... nothing like southern unity again...NEVER! ElSudani: |
Re: Igbos Are Gifted, Envied By Their Neighbours- US Dept. Of State (Kissinger Memo) by Kafirbigot: 9:41am On Dec 10, 2023 |
You are worthless and that is NOBODY's fault... tsdarkside: |
Re: Igbos Are Gifted, Envied By Their Neighbours- US Dept. Of State (Kissinger Memo) by ElSudani: 9:49am On Dec 10, 2023 |
Kafirbigot: Your leaders were the greatest proponents of one Nigeria. Azikiwe first and then Ironsi, you are only crying because what your leaders created is not working for you. Good luck with your Biafra. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Igbos Are Gifted, Envied By Their Neighbours- US Dept. Of State (Kissinger Memo) by tsdarkside(m): 9:51am On Dec 10, 2023 |
Kafirbigot: thx. |
Re: Igbos Are Gifted, Envied By Their Neighbours- US Dept. Of State (Kissinger Memo) by Kafirbigot: 9:57am On Dec 10, 2023 |
Who called NIGERIA A "geographical expression"?? ...ZIK Abi? Who "wished" to become President after "aligning" with Northerners to fight BIAFRA...Zik Abi? Who Died wishing to be President...Zik Abi? Talk well OGBENI...nobody nuys that your worthlessly foolish banter.. ElSudani: |
Re: Igbos Are Gifted, Envied By Their Neighbours- US Dept. Of State (Kissinger Memo) by PHIPEX(m): 10:02am On Dec 10, 2023 |
tatatar:So stop boasting when you had to beg and hire world powers to "defeat" your neighbour, it shows you are actually empty. Gave out your land (Bakassi) as a gift to defeat this same neighbour. |
Re: Igbos Are Gifted, Envied By Their Neighbours- US Dept. Of State (Kissinger Memo) by ElSudani: 10:02am On Dec 10, 2023 |
Kafirbigot: You are talking nonsense. I have no time for unintelligent babbling you have going on there. |
Re: Igbos Are Gifted, Envied By Their Neighbours- US Dept. Of State (Kissinger Memo) by PHIPEX(m): 10:05am On Dec 10, 2023 |
Odibembem:It's not validation because they know their worth which makes them stand alone whenever need be. They are dismantling your age long propaganda when you had control of the media. The social media has been the biggest tool for dismantling those lies, so don't cry yet it's still morning. 1 Like |
Re: Igbos Are Gifted, Envied By Their Neighbours- US Dept. Of State (Kissinger Memo) by Zxcvbnmghtr: 10:06am On Dec 10, 2023 |
Chinua Achebe already explained the reason in his book, 'THERE WAS A COUNTRY'. “I will be the first to concede that the Igbo as a group is not without its flaws. Its success can and did carry deadly penalties: the dangers of hubris, overweening pride, and thoughtlessness, which invite envy and hatred or, even worse, than can obsess the mind with material success and dispose it to all kinds of crude showiness. There is no doubt at all that there is a strand in contemporary Igbo behavior that can offend by its noisy exhibitionism and disregard for humility and quietness.[color=#990000][/color]” CHINUA ACHEBE, in his book, 'There was a country'. Nobody could have said it better than an Igbo man. Others are silent achievers, 'THEY DO NOT POSSESS SUCH BEHAVIOR THAT CAN OFFEND BY IT'S NOISY MATERIAL EXHIBITIONISM AND DISREGARD FOR HUMILITY AND QUIETNESS'. Yet they are greater achievers. After all empty drums makes the loudest noise. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Igbos Are Gifted, Envied By Their Neighbours- US Dept. Of State (Kissinger Memo) by Kafirbigot: 10:07am On Dec 10, 2023 |
When talking NONSENSE and you are countered, you resort to being more foolish as expected... ElSudani: |
Re: Igbos Are Gifted, Envied By Their Neighbours- US Dept. Of State (Kissinger Memo) by ElSudani: 10:10am On Dec 10, 2023 |
Kafirbigot: To start with, you don't know what you are talking about. Hard to teach algebra to a two year old. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Igbos Are Gifted, Envied By Their Neighbours- US Dept. Of State (Kissinger Memo) by Kafirbigot: 10:11am On Dec 10, 2023 |
Coming from someone with "cow dung" as brain matter...so epic... ElSudani: |
Re: Igbos Are Gifted, Envied By Their Neighbours- US Dept. Of State (Kissinger Memo) by reiddecuti: 12:47pm On Dec 10, 2023 |
In the midst of the envy Igbo still wax stronger. 1 Like |
Re: Igbos Are Gifted, Envied By Their Neighbours- US Dept. Of State (Kissinger Memo) by LOVEALAIGBO: 12:58pm On Dec 10, 2023 |
Christistruth00: Looks like you have comprehension issues! Pray, where did i ‘justify’ the murder of anyone in my previous posts!? If anything, it’s YOU who has tried to ‘justify’ the slaughter of tens of thousands of innocents because of the actions of one or two Igbo soldiers from the then Eastern Region! And care to flesh out your point on how the murder of Franz Ferdi’ relates to the pogrom of easterners in the north in 1966? |
Re: Igbos Are Gifted, Envied By Their Neighbours- US Dept. Of State (Kissinger Memo) by Odibembem: 5:47am On Dec 11, 2023 |
PHIPEX: Any woman who needs people to let telling her that she is beautiful to feel good has self esteem issues and suspects that she is actually not beautiful. A real beautiful woman knows she is beautiful and doesn't need or beg others to tell her. Ndigbo, stop this mockery of yourselves |
Re: Igbos Are Gifted, Envied By Their Neighbours- US Dept. Of State (Kissinger Memo) by numericalguy(m): 6:43am On Dec 11, 2023 |
LOVEALAIGBO: What are you even rambling about. This is a very lame and unintelligent attempt at changing the history of Nigeria. The January 1966 coup was basically an ethnic cleansing by Igbos officers and you know it. It was supposed to pave way for domination of the Igbo tribe over the rest of Nigerians. |
Re: Igbos Are Gifted, Envied By Their Neighbours- US Dept. Of State (Kissinger Memo) by LOVEALAIGBO: 3:24pm On Dec 11, 2023 |
numericalguy: Yet another daft assumption….probably pulled straight outta your ass! *Now name the ‘Igbo officers’ that ‘planned the ethnic cleansing to pave the way for the domination of the Igbo tribe over the rest of Nigeria’! *Were the officers from other ethnicities (including the Yoruba) not privy to said ‘plan’, and if so can you then tell us the day and place this clandestine plan was hatched and what the Igbo officers told those from other ethnicities (including the Yoruba) to convince them to join in on the plan!? *You accuse Ndigbo of sending out their Igbo officers, whose names i’m sure you would mention, to ‘ethnically cleanse’ the rank and file of the political elite of other ethnicities just so we can ‘dominate’ Nigeria! Can you tell us the nature of the planned ‘domination’…..i mean, how exactly Ndigbo intended to ‘dominate’ everyone else? Following on from the answer you would give us, can you confirm no other ethnicity is presently hegemonically dominating Nigeria, and if there is one dominating the Nigerian political-economy, can you tell us why you’re perfectly relaxed and ok with them dominating you!? *What’s your own ethnicity!? I’m Igbo! *Finally, does it make any sense to your peabrain that Ndigbo would forgo and work against a status-quo that saw regions keep 50% of revenue from ALL resources and taxes; one in which they had ownership and control of ALL natural resources found in their region; and one in which their region was one of the fastest growing economies in the world….does it make sense that they would wilfully shoot themselves in the foot by rejecting all this for a unitary and centralised system of gov’t!? Just as Judge Judy would say, ’if it doesn’t make sense it’s usually not true’! Honestly, it’s naive ‘one Nigerianist’ Igbo and other naive Nigerians i blame! They are the ones allowing evil and bigoted Machiavellian schemers like you and your ilk to keep Nigeria on the retrogressive path it’s been on since the late 60s to date! To keep your criminal stranglehold on Nigerias’ political-economy, you have perfected the art of using anti-Igbo sentiments and anti-Igbo revisionism to pull wool over the eyes of naive Nigerians thereby diverting their attention away from your covetous control of our commonwealth! You’re adept at accusing Ndigbo of what YOU are guilty of! |
Re: Igbos Are Gifted, Envied By Their Neighbours- US Dept. Of State (Kissinger Memo) by numericalguy(m): 11:03am On Dec 12, 2023 |
LOVEALAIGBO: Could it be the human meat that IIGB0S eat that makes them so DUMB&ST00PEED or what? IPOB cannibals think they can just wake up and re-write Nigeria's history because they feel like it. I no blame una sha Cannibal Nnamdi Azikiwe and cannibal Ben Nwabueze were the ones who wrote the aspect of the constitution that prevented any region from breaking from Nigeria. Also, cannibal Aguyi-Ironsi was the one that promulgated decree 31 that destroyed regional government. All these were done by Igbos all in the hope that they will use those laws to dominate others. Like I said in my earlier post, your attempt at changing the history of Nigeria is too uninteligent |
Re: Igbos Are Gifted, Envied By Their Neighbours- US Dept. Of State (Kissinger Memo) by LOVEALAIGBO: 4:03pm On Dec 12, 2023 |
numericalguy: Dude, quit being a evasive slimeball and answer the questions as asked….one after the other! I fcking dare you! All your pathetic ass does is go about trying to revise history and put out a false narrative about a people who don’t even care you exist and who will continue to thrive long after you mud and get sent straight back to hell! It just takes a few targeted questions to expose your vacuous nature! You’re nothing but an uncultured tout, and that shouldn’t really come as a surprise seeing your political leanings! I bet you have one connection or the other to the mafia empire that has Lagos gov’t and treasury in its pocket and who have now rigged and schemed their way into Aso Rock! You could even be the Onanuga bigot going by your gutter language and level of bigotry! So when Zik and Nwabueze were, according to you, ‘sneakily and codedly’ inserting in the constitution the part that didn’t allow any region to secede, what were Awo and the Sadauna doing!? What distracted the latter two, who made up 2/3 of the pre-independence regions to Zik and Nwabuezes’ 1/3, from paying attention and knowing what was and what wasn’t being put in a document that was to serve as the ground-norm….the ‘Bible’ on which interactions and life in the newly independent country would abide by!? You do realise you’re saying by implication that one of the three had a veto and was more powerful than the other two! In any event, 6 years after ‘independence’ the other two had the defacto powers to revisit any earlier arrangements, even the one you claim Ironsi did, to refashion them to suit their ‘secession clause’ agenda! But what did we see!? We saw them ‘gift’ Nigeria the 1979 and subsequently 1999 constitutions, that not only ensured a unitary system of gov’t, but even went further to claim federal ownership of regions/states resources….something the Ironsi decree never did! Now how’s that for a shameless display of hypocrisy, two-facedness and covetousness!? |
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