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Re: Onitsha Became A British Trading Post In The 18th Century-oxford Business Group by Twistaray(m): 11:52am On May 29, 2020
Ibos are immigrant in Anambra, they have no right to lay claim to that chubby state. Anyways, I have always known that Anambra has never been part of IBO land and that's why they are quite different in everything.
Re: Onitsha Became A British Trading Post In The 18th Century-oxford Business Group by mangoat833: 11:52am On May 29, 2020
kayfra:


You tell me how the Onitsha ruling house doesn't have strong Edo progeny? Explain it to the public
Onitsha is now firmly in Igbo hands if it ever had Edo an progeny, same way many parts of Anioma had strong Edo influences but still completely Igbonized in language and culture... the Igbo man's genes are too strong grin even the once Yoruba Olukunmi people in Delta state are now completely Igbonized. The reverse is the case in yaribanza land however,almost every where you were once indigenous outside of your 5 states (cause Lagos is No man's land and belongs originally to the Bini) have all been erased and replaced with more distinct identities of the Yoruba subgroups. Look at the Itshekiri, Ilaje, Okun, Awori etc those people have lost their Yoruba identities and have all morphed into distinctly different tribes/groups.
Re: Onitsha Became A British Trading Post In The 18th Century-oxford Business Group by kayfra: 11:52am On May 29, 2020
OFFICIAL336:

You are the richest yet you dominate the social register of the most vulnerable persons in the south

Not according to UNDP and UNESCO
Re: Onitsha Became A British Trading Post In The 18th Century-oxford Business Group by mangoat833: 11:54am On May 29, 2020
Twistaray:
Ibos are immigrant in Anambra, they have no right to lay claim to that chubby state. Anyways, I have always known that Anambra has never been part of IBO land and that's why they are quite different in everything.
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I agree, just like Lagos (no man's land), Ekiti and Egba (now bought up by awon omo Igbo according to your brothers), Ilorin (Fulani territory), Ijebu (they've already established they are not Yoruba) are not Afonja's grin cheesy cheesy

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Re: Onitsha Became A British Trading Post In The 18th Century-oxford Business Group by kayfra: 11:54am On May 29, 2020
mangoat833:

Onitsha is now firmly in Igbo hands if it ever had Edo an progeny, same way many parts of Anioma had strong Edo influences but still completely Igbonized in language and culture... the Igbo man's genes are too strong grin even the once Yoruba Olukunmi people in Delta state are now completely Igbonized. The reverse is the case in yaribanza land however,almost every where you were once indigenous outside of your 5 states (cause Lagos is No man's land and belongs originally to the Bini) have all been erased and replaced with more distinct identities of the Yoruba subgroups. Look at the Itshekiri, Ilaje, Okun, Awori etc those people have lost their Yoruba identities and have all morphed into distinctly different tribes/groups.

So you are alluding to my argument. The Yoruba, Edo and Igala genes in Anambra helped them escape poverty. Coz they are clearly different from other Igbos that are savagely poor grin
Re: Onitsha Became A British Trading Post In The 18th Century-oxford Business Group by Twistaray(m): 11:56am On May 29, 2020
mangoat833:
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I agree, just like Lagos (no man's land), Ekiti and Egba (now bought up by awon omo Igbo according to your brothers), Ilorin (Fulani territory), Ijebu (they've already established they are not Yoruba) are not Afonja's grin cheesy cheesy

Where are these lands?

By the way, let's focus on the OP. grin
Re: Onitsha Became A British Trading Post In The 18th Century-oxford Business Group by jimyjames(m): 11:56am On May 29, 2020
kayfra:


Chima is an Edo prince from all credible historical accounts. Did he become an Igbo citizen after leaving Edo. Yes.

But he is Edo in the lineage of Eweka and Oranmiyan. Argue with your ancestors

Lol you don't know the full story of chima and how he ended up in Bini kingdom and became who he was, is chima Edo name ?


Are you aware chima was also a powerful chief priest ?

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Re: Onitsha Became A British Trading Post In The 18th Century-oxford Business Group by kayfra: 11:57am On May 29, 2020
jimyjames:


Lol you don't know the full story of chima and how he ended up in Bini kingdom and became who he was, is chima Edo name ?


Are you aware chima was also a powerful chief priest ?

This one is a pure breed Igbo, the poor kind. He doesn't know the evolution of language grin
Re: Onitsha Became A British Trading Post In The 18th Century-oxford Business Group by mangoat833: 11:59am On May 29, 2020
kayfra:


So you are alluding to my argument. The Yoruba, Edo and Igala genes in Anambra helped them escape poverty. Coz they are clearly different from other Igbos that are savagely poor grin
We're saying the same thing egbon. The Igbos have left Anambra for you to come claim it (if dem born you well be that ooo), but we're right in Lagos, Egbaland, Ekiti, parts of Ogun state comfortably buying up your lands to establish an Igbo colony. We are saying the same thing aburo mi, Onitsha is yours but you actually have to be rich to buy back your lands there. And we know Afonja's are very poor and lazy (according to your own brothers ooo), and can't afford to take back what is theirs grin grin grin
grin grin grin

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Re: Onitsha Became A British Trading Post In The 18th Century-oxford Business Group by OFFICIAL336: 11:59am On May 29, 2020
kayfra:


Not according to UNDP and UNESCO
But according to the FG Ministry of Humanitarian affairs
Re: Onitsha Became A British Trading Post In The 18th Century-oxford Business Group by Twistaray(m): 12:00pm On May 29, 2020
God bless Edo/Ife land.

Onitsha isn't igbo land
https://www.nairaland.com/3357560/nigerian-govt-there-re-no/4#49549448


GREAT BENIN ORIGIN OF ONITSHA


BENIN ROOT OF ONITSHA
Many of our traditional titles are the same with the Edos/Binis: Onicha titles like “Iyasele” is “Iyasere” in Bini; “Ogene Onira” is “Oliha” in Benin; “Odu Osodi” is “Osodin” in Benin; “Omodi Daike” in Onitsha is “Edaiken” in Benin; “Esagba” in Onitsha is “Esogban” in Benin; the “Isama” titles are the same in both towns amongst many others. The “Obi” of modern Onitsha today is the continuation of the ancient Pharonic dynasty of ancient Kemet or Egypt. Onitsha must retrace the history of her monarchs from his imperial Majesty Obi Achebe back to the Ogiso Kings of Igodomigodo in Edo, then to Egypt; to Pharoah Tutankhamon, Pharoah Amenemhet, Pharoah Amenemes, Pharoah Amenkhuti Ra; Pharoah Khafara, and back to the first dynasty in Egypt. Enough of this tracing of our kingship to just Obi Oreze or his father Ohime(corrupted to “Chima”) by his later descendants. Onicha people came from Benin or Edo land, they were also in Igbo land. I suspect that the Priests of Nri were distantly connected, that is why till date an Nri King upon consecration must bring certain sacrifial items to the Obi of Onicha and must sleep over in Onicha before assuming the Nri throne. Why would the very traditional Nri people who were(and still are) known all over the Igbo land as a holy people and the spiritual custodian of all Igbo lands, accord these rights to Onicha Kings? All these indicate that Onicha and many other tribes had had prior interactions and established certain traditional precedence which had been ongoing before the Onicha town was founded just around 700 hundred years ago. No Nri man would just concede to subject his divine King to some unknown immigrants who just crossed over from the Niger River, if that were to be the case.

authoritatively portray the following facts that the Ikelike people from the Bini kingdom were the first to settle in Ogwashi-Uku (see Ben Nwabua, Ogwash-uku Kingdom, 1000 Years of Traditional Democracy and Cultural Life, 950-1914). Both traditional and empirical sources gives credence that Ikelike people were the first set of immigrants to settle in the present Ogwashi-Uku as against the notion that Adaigbo who purportedly came from Nri in present Anambra State today is the founder of Ogwashi-Uku. So far, no counter claim has been made on this. According to Ogwashi-Uku intelligence report by Mr. J.E Hull, the then Assistant District Officer dated on the 9th of April 1936, the Ikelike people from all indications migrated from Benin to settle where they are found themselves today, because of a reign of wanton persecution of subjects by the then Benin Monarch, Oba Eweka 11. The story further goes that at the head was Odigie Ikelike with his younger brother Ado who later founded Adonta, a relatively small village close to Azungwu in Ogwashi-uku today.

The Ikelike migrants were said to be politically averse and could not, therefore evolve an orderly method of governance even though there were small in number. Jull`s report further went on to point out that because of such indisposition towards an effective means of governing themselves, it cost them the political leadership they were first to settle in. Rather, Adaigbo, the prince from Nri later came, controlled the situation and imposed leadership based on Igbo customs and tradition on them and what later became Ogwshi-Uku kingdom. Adaigbo’s imposed of republican system, however, later gave way to the hereditary system of the Benins . BENIN EMIGRATION OR EXODUS: The migration of Onicha people from Benin happened in phases over many years and did not happen once. The Ohime/Obi Ezechima’s exodus was one of the last ones that occurred but it should be noted that not all Onicha people left with Obi Eze Chima or Ohime. Some stayed back and are still in Benin today. Some took a different migrationary route towards Ile Ife and Ado Ekiti. Some went to establish Ondo. Some made a northern migrational journey towards the north to establish the Igala Kingdom.The Attah of Igala and a substantial part of the Igala kingdom were Onicha people who immigrated into Igala from Benin. The first Attah of Igala was a Prince of the Edo/Benin Kingdom. Now it can be understood why the Onicha people were ferried across the Niger and greatly assisted by their Igala kinsmen when they reached the banks of the Niger river. It can also be understood why Onicha people easily incorporated many Igala rituals and traditions into their own concepts. They were of the same roots but different branches. Onicha people left Benin to establish Igala; that was the secret behind the easy adoption of and exchange of different tenets amongst Onicha and Igala people. Some Onicha people, before Eze Chima’s exodus, had left Benin to establish other towns like Issele Ukwu, Ebu, Kwale, Ezzi, Onicha-Ukwu, Okpanam, Asaba(originally called “Araba”) and some other towns of Benin orientation that had been established before the Ezechima’s exodus from Benin.. It was these settlements that habored Obi Ohime/Ezechima when he and his family fled from Benin. The migration from Benin to Onicha Mmili took many years, towns of Onicha-Olona and Onicha-Ugbo were established by Onicha people who felt reluctant to continue and follow Obi Ohime to Onicha-mmili. ESTABLISHMENT OF ONICHA-MMILI AND HER RULING DYNASTY: Obi Ohime or Eze Chima, having been told that he could not enter Onicha, stayed for a long time in Obio with his family and relatives before he died. After he died, his relatives decided to continue with their migration to establish Onicha. The qualification for whom shall be crowned king was conditioned upon who shall sound ancient rhythms on a wooden Ufie. Traditionally, Ufie cannot be owned or be sounded/beaten by a person whose father is still alive. The contestants to the throne having just lost their father, had no ufie, however, Oreze Obi, had carved one which he hid under the boat and sounded first upon getting to Onicha whilst his siblings were busy looking for the appropriate wood to cut for the Ufie.

cheesy
Re: Onitsha Became A British Trading Post In The 18th Century-oxford Business Group by kayfra: 12:01pm On May 29, 2020
mangoat833:

We're saying the same thing egbon. The Igbos have left Anambra for you to come claim it (if dem born you well be that ooo), but we're right in Lagos, Egbaland, Ekiti, parts of Ogun state comfortably buying up your lands to establish an Igbo colony. We are saying the same thing aburo mi, Onitsha is yours but you actually have to be rich to buy back your lands there. And we know Afonja's are very poor and lazy (according to your own brothers ooo), and can't afford to take back what is theirs grin grin grin
grin grin grin

Onitsha at this point is no man's potopoto land. Nobody wants it grin
Re: Onitsha Became A British Trading Post In The 18th Century-oxford Business Group by mangoat833: 12:01pm On May 29, 2020
Twistaray:


Where are these lands?

By the way, let's focus on the OP. grin
According to your brother Fatai, those lands have been bought by the poor Igbos ooo, he said you people are lazy and poor. No be talk am ooo grin

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Re: Onitsha Became A British Trading Post In The 18th Century-oxford Business Group by tamdun: 12:01pm On May 29, 2020
kayfra:
Orisha (Onitsha) has Edo and Yoruba influence. That's what saved it from the usual abject poverty in the SE

Thank us for being not so abysmal
Orisha grin grin grin
Re: Onitsha Became A British Trading Post In The 18th Century-oxford Business Group by Twistaray(m): 12:02pm On May 29, 2020
mangoat833:

According to your brother Fatai, those lands have been bought by the poor Igbos ooo, he said you people are lazy and poor. No be talk am ooo grin

Where are these audio lands? grin
Oya, let's see it now.

Stop detailing this beautiful thread for us. You can create your own thread for that. grin
Re: Onitsha Became A British Trading Post In The 18th Century-oxford Business Group by mangoat833: 12:02pm On May 29, 2020
kayfra:


Onitsha at this point is no man's potopoto land. Nobody wants it grin
Good at least we get to keep our potopoto while we buy back our rich and fertile lands back from our rich afonja brothers in Ekiti and Egba. One Nigeria sweet oooo grin
Re: Onitsha Became A British Trading Post In The 18th Century-oxford Business Group by mangoat833: 12:03pm On May 29, 2020
Twistaray:


Where are these audio lands? grin
Oya, let's see it now.

Stop detailing this beautiful thread for us. You can create your own thread for that. grin
Why you dey ask me? go ask your egbons that are wailing all over the internet grin
Re: Onitsha Became A British Trading Post In The 18th Century-oxford Business Group by jimyjames(m): 12:04pm On May 29, 2020
kayfra:


This one is a pure breed Igbo, the poor kind. He doesn't know the evolution of language grin

Lol afonja , pls look for the full story of ezechima and read, stop running around with cut and join story , chima was a migrant in Bini kingdom

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Re: Onitsha Became A British Trading Post In The 18th Century-oxford Business Group by kayfra: 12:04pm On May 29, 2020
mangoat833:

Good at least we get to keep our potopoto while we buy back our rich and fertile lands back from our rich afonja brothers in Ekiti and Egba. One Nigeria sweet oooo grin
It's not yours too. It's everyone's reject

Sacrificial land
Re: Onitsha Became A British Trading Post In The 18th Century-oxford Business Group by Twistaray(m): 12:04pm On May 29, 2020
Another prove/facts. grin If Nigeria is to split today all the ibos immigrants in anambra must vacate anambra. cool

Re: Onitsha Became A British Trading Post In The 18th Century-oxford Business Group by Twistaray(m): 12:05pm On May 29, 2020
mangoat833:

Why you dey ask me? go ask your egbons that are wailing all over the internet grin

Good!
You've just proved that na audio/oral figures. grin
grin
Re: Onitsha Became A British Trading Post In The 18th Century-oxford Business Group by mangoat833: 12:06pm On May 29, 2020
kayfra:
It's not yours too. It's everyone's reject

Sacrificial land
We are saying the same thing, we keep our potopoto useless lands, while the poor people from the South flood your region and buy up your lands, and leave your brothers hopelessly wailing. The Fulani are controlling your ports while we are taking over your lands... talk of a two pronged attack grin..

in Don Jazzys voice *Na collabo oooo*
grin grin grin grin

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Re: Onitsha Became A British Trading Post In The 18th Century-oxford Business Group by mangoat833: 12:08pm On May 29, 2020
Twistaray:


Good!
You've just proved that na audio/oral figures. grin
grin
Your brother wouldn't have made a whole post about it and gotten that much likes and shares on Facebook if it was just audio, be sleeping on a bicycle ooo, soon one "Shukwudi" will be pricing your ancestral land to buy soon cheesy

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Re: Onitsha Became A British Trading Post In The 18th Century-oxford Business Group by kayfra: 12:11pm On May 29, 2020
mangoat833:

We are saying the same thing, we keep our potopoto useless lands, while the poor people from the South flood your region and buy up your lands, and leave your brothers hopelessly wailing. The Fulani are controlling your ports while we are taking over your lands... talk of a two pronged attack grin..

in Don Jazzys voice *Na collabo oooo*
grin grin grin grin


Anambra is Yoruba, Igala and Edo land. But we sacrificed it to the refugees from Edo and Yorubas that became Igno citizens. At this point, it's just a dump. We don't care about it.

The ongoing concern is for us to help our poverty stricken Igbos. I mean we chased them away and now they are still poor.

We will help grin
Re: Onitsha Became A British Trading Post In The 18th Century-oxford Business Group by Twistaray(m): 12:12pm On May 29, 2020
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mangoat833:

Your brother wouldn't have made a whole post about it and gotten that much likes and shares on Facebook if it was just audio, be sleeping on a bicycle ooo, soon one "Shukwudi" will be pricing your ancestral land to buy soon cheesy
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Shall we focus on the OP now? grin
Oya, back to the matter, are you an immigrant ibo in Anambra too?

cool

Re: Onitsha Became A British Trading Post In The 18th Century-oxford Business Group by PureGoldh(m): 12:13pm On May 29, 2020
No doubt
Re: Onitsha Became A British Trading Post In The 18th Century-oxford Business Group by Twistaray(m): 12:13pm On May 29, 2020
Ibos are land grabbers. In due time we shall reclaim back our land from them.


grin

Re: Onitsha Became A British Trading Post In The 18th Century-oxford Business Group by mangoat833: 12:13pm On May 29, 2020
kayfra:


Anambra is Yoruba, Igala and Edo land. But we sacrificed it to the refugees from Edo and Yorubas that became Igno citizens. At this point, it's just a dump. We don't care about it.

The ongoing concern is for us to help our poverty stricken Igbos. I mean we chased them away and now they are still poor.

We will help grin

I know deep down you are pained, fake grinning emoji's can't even mask your painment.com properly but it is well my brother. I'll tell Shukwudi, Shinedu, and other omo Yeebos to take it easy on their afonja brothers before they buy up all their lands and drive them to the forest grin grin grin cheesy. One Nigeria sweet oooo wink

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Re: Onitsha Became A British Trading Post In The 18th Century-oxford Business Group by Twistaray(m): 12:14pm On May 29, 2020
kayfra:


Anambra is Yoruba, Igala and Edo land. But we sacrificed it to the refugees from Edo and Yorubas that became Igno citizens. At this point, it's just a dump. We don't care about it.

The ongoing concern is for us to help our poverty stricken Igbos. I mean we chased them away and now they are still poor.

We will help grin

God bless you jare!
Dunno why some people hate facts tho. undecided cool

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Re: Onitsha Became A British Trading Post In The 18th Century-oxford Business Group by mangoat833: 12:18pm On May 29, 2020
Twistaray:



Shall we focus on the OP now? grin
Oya, back to the matter, are you an immigrant ibo in Anambra too?

cool
I'm not interested in Onitsha csuse I know say dem never born una well to come here and even price land let alone buy, afonja dey travel?

I'm more interested in buying more lands in the SW, every land and property belongs to all Nigerians and if you're not rich enough to afford land, we will force you pack out and go to your village in Ogbomosho. One Nigeria sweet oooo cheesy
Re: Onitsha Became A British Trading Post In The 18th Century-oxford Business Group by kayfra: 12:18pm On May 29, 2020
mangoat833:


I know deep down you are pained, fake grinning emoji's can't even mask your painment.com properly but it is well my brother. I'll tell Shukwudi, Shinedu, and other omo Yeebos to take it easy on their afonja brothers before they buy up all their lands and drive them to the forest grin grin grin cheesy. One Nigeria sweet oooo wink

The emojis are to reduce the severity of my blows grin

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Re: Onitsha Became A British Trading Post In The 18th Century-oxford Business Group by mangoat833: 12:20pm On May 29, 2020
Twistaray:



Shall we focus on the OP now? grin
Oya, back to the matter, are you an immigrant ibo in Anambra too?

cool
No, but I'm a naturalized Igbo boy from Lagos, I own land here and Lagos is my state and my birthright wink cheesy grin grin

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