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Covid-19 And The Closure Of Churches: A Wake-up Call To Church Leaders by BackllGodNaija: 12:02pm On Jun 03, 2020
Covid-19 And The Closure Of Churches: A Wake-Up Call To Church Leaders

There's used to be this idea often held by church leaders, that when someone begins to attend their respective churches, the person had become saved or born again.

But when that same person stops attending, he is assumed to have backslidden or left the faith.

In other words, the person has automatically become a lost soul.

That's irrespective of whether the person left their own churches for another.

And that idea, is due to the orientation they have that their respective churches represent the House of God or His Kingdom.

Hence their obsession for erecting gigantic edifices as church buildings, believing it depicts an expansion of God's Kingdom amongst other things.

But then came Covid-19, and all of a sudden, those gargantuan structures, which they prided so much in, were empty of men, inclusive of Sundays when their main services usually held.

This must have come as a rude shock to them, for they would hardly have fathomed such a day would come when their highly revered structures, would be rendered desolate.

At least not so soon and surely not because of a common virus, but it came to pass right before their very eyes. And as they say, "seeing is believing", so they "saw and believed", yet they could do nothing about it because they were completely helpless.

Hence the Covid-19 pandemic via the lockdown has provided a huge wake-up call for those with such misplaced mindsets, especially church leaders, to get their priorities right.

It has proven that those gigantic church buildings which they built with men's hands never represented God's House or Kingdom in the first place. That's why it could possibly be shut down.

Therefore, although their church buildings were shut down, the House of God was never shut down but always open to men, because it can never be shut down by men but only by God.

So it's always been open to men regardless, and would always be open for men to enter as long as the Earth remains.

God bless Nigeria.

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Re: Covid-19 And The Closure Of Churches: A Wake-up Call To Church Leaders by petra1(m): 12:40pm On Jun 03, 2020
BackllGodNaija :


Hence their obsession for erecting gigantic edifices as church buildings, believing it depicts an expansion of God's Kingdom amongst other things.

I dont know why some of you have problem with gigantic building, is it intimidating your mind ? . If large auditoriums are build to take in large number of people, is not to Gods glory.
Must is only be where 2 or 3 are gathered . If they put air condintioner is it not for the comfort of humanity. Is God not concerned about comfort .Jesus preach to 5,000. He gave them food. That's comfort. I'm sure if he had auditorium he would be glad

Paul had a lecture theatre for service . Is that not comfort? At least they are not sitting on the ground as in the time of Jesus.

When we judge people we should find out their motives and inspiration not reading our mind into their motives
Re: Covid-19 And The Closure Of Churches: A Wake-up Call To Church Leaders by BackllGodNaija: 10:43am On Jun 04, 2020
petra1:

I dont know why some of you have problem with gigantic building
@ bolded Who said I had a problem with that? Certainly not me.

However I have a problem with the misconceptions of some of you that such is the House of God, because that is not true.

Except you have a problem with the Truth, then that's your problem, not mine.

petra1:

is it intimidating your mind ?
You're very funny wink

Intimidating ke?

Just in case you don't know, I don't worship or fear buildings regardless of their sizes if you do.

I view them for what they are...vanity.

Read Mark 13:1-2 to understand the true value of such gigantic buildings, just in case you think more highly of them than what they really are, like your supposed mentors.


petra1:

If large auditoriums are build to take in large number of people, is not to Gods glory.

That's if they're built for God's glory...most of them aren't because they're built for the glory of men.

Intention is key...

And that can be reflected by the interests that are being served there, with respect to the teachings etc.


petra1:


Must is only be where 2 or 3 are gathered . If they put air condintioner is it not for the comfort of humanity. Is God not concerned about comfort .Jesus preach to 5,000. He gave them food. That's comfort. I'm sure if he had auditorium he would be glad


Lolz. The more you speak, the more you reveal how far you are from the truth.

Jesus feeding 5000 men wasn't "comfort" but "necessity".

Again, point of correction! Jesus wouldn't be glad if He had an auditorium because He could have easily gotten Himself one if He ever needed one.

You seem to lack knowledge concerning Jesus, to think that despite attracting so much crowd, that building or getting such an auditorium was beyond His reach. For someone who could at feed at least 5000 to satisfaction...who knew all the secret places money was hidden, as in, the mouth of a fish.

But maybe you can you tell me why Jesus didn't erect a building for His church while He was here on Earth.

Was it because He couldn't afford it?

Clue: A House not built with men's hands.


petra1:


Paul had a lecture theatre for service . Is that not comfort? At least they are not sitting on the ground as in the time of Jesus.

When we judge people we should find out their motives and inspiration not reading our mind into their motives

As per the bolded, that has long been established, so no case.

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Re: Covid-19 And The Closure Of Churches: A Wake-up Call To Church Leaders by petra1(m): 5:43pm On Jun 04, 2020
BackllGodNaija:

I view them for what they are...vanity.

House of God can never be vanity

Read Mark 13:1-2 to understand the true value of such gigantic buildings,

You should read haggai chapter 1


That's if they're built for God's glory...most of them aren't because they're built for the glory of men.

Intention is key...

It's only God that can say that not you. Houses of worship are dedicated to God. Its honor for God to make it look God . How do you make your own house fine and desecrate Gods place of Worship?

Read haggai chapter 1

And that can be reflected by the interests that are being served there, with respect to the teachings etc.

What's the teaching ?


Jesus feeding 5000 men wasn't "comfort" but "necessity"

Is comfort not necessity.

Again, point of correction! Jesus wouldn't be glad if He had an auditorium because He could have easily gotten Himself one if He ever needed one

You're wrong . He goes to the temple and synagogue to teach . If he had no value for the building where God is worshipped why would he use whip on people who desecrate it. He could have said the place is "vanity"

Matthew 21:13
And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves
.

But maybe you can you tell me why Jesus didn't erect a building for His church while He was here on Earth

He was an evangelist . He mission was mobile .
Re: Covid-19 And The Closure Of Churches: A Wake-up Call To Church Leaders by MuttleyLaff: 5:56pm On Jun 04, 2020
BackllGodNaija:
Covid-19 And The Closure Of Churches: A Wake-Up Call To Church Leaders
There's used to be this idea often held by church leaders, that when someone begins to attend their respective churches, the person had become saved or born again.

But when that same person stops attending, he is assumed to have backslidden or left the faith.

In other words, the person has automatically become a lost soul.

That's irrespective of whether the person left their own churches for another.

And that idea, is due to the orientation they have that their respective churches represent the House of God or His Kingdom.

Hence their obsession for erecting gigantic edifices as church buildings, believing it depicts an expansion of God's Kingdom amongst other things.

But then came Covid-19, and all of a sudden, those gargantuan structures, which they prided so much in, were empty of men, inclusive of Sundays when their main services usually held.

This must have come as a rude shock to them, for they would hardly have fathomed such a day would come when their highly revered structures, would be rendered desolate.

At least not so soon and surely not because of a common virus, but it came to pass right before their very eyes. And as they say, "seeing is believing", so they "saw and believed", yet they could do nothing about it because they were completely helpless.

Hence the Covid-19 pandemic via the lockdown has provided a huge wake-up call for those with such misplaced mindsets, especially church leaders, to get their priorities right.

It has proven that those gigantic church buildings which they built with men's hands never represented God's House or Kingdom in the first place. That's why it could possibly be shut down.

Therefore, although their church buildings were shut down, the House of God was never shut down but always open to men, because it can never be shut down by men but only by God.

So it's always been open to men regardless, and would always be open for men to enter as long as the Earth remains.

God bless Nigeria.

petra1:
I dont know why some of you have problem with gigantic building, is it intimidating your mind ?. If large auditoriums are build to take in large number of people, is not to Gods glory.
Must is only be where 2 or 3 are gathered . If they put air condintioner is it not for the comfort of humanity. Is God not concerned about comfort
Who air conditioner and comfort "epp" during the epidemic, huh?

petra1:
Jesus preach to 5,000. He gave them food. That's comfort. I'm sure if he had auditorium he would be glad

Paul had a lecture theatre for service . Is that not comfort? At least they are not sitting on the ground as in the time of Jesus.

When we judge people we should find out their motives and inspiration not reading our mind into their motives
Jesus preached for multitude as much as 5000 people, in open air field, without so much of a tent. Go figure

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Re: Covid-19 And The Closure Of Churches: A Wake-up Call To Church Leaders by petra1(m): 6:08pm On Jun 04, 2020
MuttleyLaff:


Who air conditioner and comfort "epp" during the epidemic, huh?

Jesus preached for multitude as much as 5000 people, in open air field, without so much of a tent. Go figure

There is difference between operating as the evangelist and the Pastor.

Men of God do open air evangelistic crusades and have larger crowd than 5000

Jesus still goes to the synagogue and temple to teach .
Re: Covid-19 And The Closure Of Churches: A Wake-up Call To Church Leaders by petra1(m): 6:11pm On Jun 04, 2020
MuttleyLaff:


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Covid 19 is fiasco. The men of God have dealt with deadlier things. Let government invite them . That's If there's any patient in the so called isolation centre
Re: Covid-19 And The Closure Of Churches: A Wake-up Call To Church Leaders by Kobojunkie: 6:11pm On Jun 04, 2020
BackllGodNaija:
It has proven that those gigantic church buildings which they built with men's hands never represented God's House or Kingdom in the first place. That's why it could possibly be shut down.
Therefore, although their church buildings were shut down, the House of God was never shut down but always open to men, because it can never be shut down by men but only by God.
So it's always been open to men regardless, and would always be open for men to enter as long as the Earth remains.
You mean the House of God is now open online?
Re: Covid-19 And The Closure Of Churches: A Wake-up Call To Church Leaders by MuttleyLaff: 7:24pm On Jun 04, 2020
petra1:
There is difference between operating as the evangelist and the Pastor.

Men of God do open air evangelistic crusades and have larger crowd than 5000

Jesus still goes to the synagogue and temple to teach.
"Don't you know that you yourselves are God's temple
and that God's Spirit dwells in your midst?
"
- 1 Corinthians 3:16

Synagogue is synonymous with the Old Testament and/or before the death of Jesus Christ. Meeting or fellowshipping together in each other homes is synonymous with the New Testament and the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

Each time Jesus visited the temple, it was to run those merchandising the gospel out of the temple and out of business as usual.

We are the temple of God. Jesus was doing evangelism, physically and spiritually feed the flock, at the same, in open air crusades. Whenever Jesus went into the temple, it was to cleanse it
Re: Covid-19 And The Closure Of Churches: A Wake-up Call To Church Leaders by MuttleyLaff: 7:24pm On Jun 04, 2020
petra1:
Covid 19 is fiasco. The men of God have dealt with deadlier things. Let government invite them . That's If there's any patient in the so called isolation centre
Bishop Gerald Glenn, 66, US pastor who blasted social distancing measures and said "The virus is out there, yeah, but God is out there too. God is larger than this virus et cetera" and so defied social distancing, only to come die of the same virus aka COVID-19.

Pastor Landon Spradlin from Virginia US, who didn’t think COVID-19 was a hoax, as his son said he knew it was a real virus died from illness, criticising the panic surrounding the coronavirus aka COVID-19 calling it "mass hysteria"

Frankline Ndifor, aged 39, Cameroon Prophet who claimed to heal COVID-19 patients by laying hands on them, died of Corona virus.

Pastor Charles Kayiwa, originally from Uganda, who moved to the UK in 1993 having spent seven years prior, living in Sweden, the disease took him so quickly. He was admitted to hospital on Monday and by Sunday he was gone.

Prominent Iraqi Shia scholar Ayatollah Sayed Hadi al-Modaressi contracted the novel Coronavirus, official sources confirmed.

Dr Paul Kasabele, "gifted" eye doctor and Woolwich pastor, died of COVID-19 after warning others to take it seriously.

Ballymena man Pastor Edwin Cotter, from Republic of Ireland died from COVID-19.
Re: Covid-19 And The Closure Of Churches: A Wake-up Call To Church Leaders by petra1(m): 7:55pm On Jun 04, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
"Don't you know that you yourselves are God's temple
and that God's Spirit dwells in your midst?
"
- 1 Corinthians 3:16

That doesn’t take the place of church service

Hebrews 10:25 (KJV)
Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching

1 Timothy 3:15 (KJV)
But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth..


Synagogue is synonymous with the Old Testament and/or before the death of Jesus Christ. Meeting or fellowshipping together in each other homes is synonymous with the New Testament and the resurrection of Jesus Christ

There is no old or new . Principles are eternal . there’ is always a place of worship .Even in heaven there’s a temple . In the coming millennia reign of Christ there will be temple

Each time Jesus visited the temple, it was to run those merchandising the gospel out of the temple and out of business as usual. We are the temple of God. Jesus was doing evangelism, physically and spiritually feed the flock, at the same, in open air crusades. Whenever Jesus went into the temple, it was to cleanse it

It’s to teach the word of God

Luke 19:47
And he taught daily in the temple. But the chief priests and the scribes and the chief of the people sought to destroy him,
Re: Covid-19 And The Closure Of Churches: A Wake-up Call To Church Leaders by MuttleyLaff: 8:03pm On Jun 04, 2020
petra1:
That doesn’t take the place of church service
No one has said anything takes the place of church service nah.

petra1:
Hebrews 10:25 (KJV)
Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching

1 Timothy 3:15 (KJV)
But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.


There is no old or new. Principles are eternal. There’ is always a place of worship. Even in heaven there’s a temple. In the coming millennia reign of Christ there will be temple

It’s to teach the word of God

Luke 19:47
And he taught daily in the temple. But the chief priests and the scribes and the chief of the people sought to destroy him,
Principles supersede each other. There is no Superman for principles because when principle jam stronger, superior, more powerful principle, it shoves in chest, begins hail and salute the stronger, superior, more powerful principle

Chief, baba petra1, fyi, Jesus ignored the grandeur of the temple, it actually was outside, the "hieron", the outer courts, that He was daily teaching people and not the temple.
Re: Covid-19 And The Closure Of Churches: A Wake-up Call To Church Leaders by BackllGodNaija: 10:28am On Jun 05, 2020
Kobojunkie:
You mean the House of God is now open online?
Does God live online? smiley

God is omnipresent, so the door of His House/Kingdom is always open to any man who truly wants to come to Him.
Re: Covid-19 And The Closure Of Churches: A Wake-up Call To Church Leaders by BackllGodNaija: 12:12am On Jun 06, 2020
petra1:


House of God can never be vanity

By "House of God, do you also mean synagogues and church buildings?

The only house ever built with men's hands that's qualifies as the "House of God" was the Jewish temple, because that's the only house as such that God's literally ever dwelt in.

So if you observe any other house that men built as "House of God", you are doing so in error.

But even the only genuine "House of God" that men ever built, you can see what God did to it when it became about the building etc. but not He that dwelt in it, to illustrate how much it really meant to Him.

Moreover, could you please explain what happened to the only genuine "House of God" as such, when the veil covering the ark of the covenant got torn in two upon Jesus death.

petra1:


You should read haggai chapter 1

I've done just that and it only spoke of the Jewish temple not somewhere else.

petra1:


It's only God that can say that not you. Houses of worship are dedicated to God.


Only God can say that such buildings are dedicated to Him not you.


petra1:


Its honor for God to make it look God . How do you make your own house fine and desecrate Gods place of Worship?


Thank God that, at the least, you're no longer making the grave error of calling such church buildings you so highly regard "House of God", because you desecrate the real "House of God" by doing so.

petra1:


Read haggai chapter 1

I've responded to this before
petra1:


What's the teaching ?

The kind that inspired you to be making the grave error of calling those common church buildings "House of God".
petra1:


Is comfort not necessity.



Matthew 15:32

Then Jesus called his disciples unto him, and said, I have compassion on the multitude, because they continue with me now three days, and have nothing to eat: and I will not send them away fasting, lest they faint in the way.

You call the bolded comfort?

Then maybe necessity is comforting to you.


petra1:


You're wrong . He goes to the temple and synagogue to teach . If he had no value for the building where God is worshipped why would he use whip on people who desecrate it. He could have said the place is "vanity"

Matthew 21:13
And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves
.

The temple was not just a place where God was worshipped as the synagogues or church buildings.

It was the "House of God" as the bolded implied, that is to say, a house where God literally dwelt in.

That's why Jesus would go to that extent in the temple, but never in the synagogues or any other such buildings, otherwise you'd show me where.

And besides, this was what He yet said about the same one and only true "House of God" that was built by men when it was being admired by His disciples:

"See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down."

So that should tell you the extent of value He placed on that building, just as it was with God who was going to let such extent of destruction to befall it.

Anything that's made of this temporal world is vanity.


petra1:


He was an evangelist . He mission was mobile .


You call the Good Shepherd, "an evangelist"?

So tell me, what is it that those who have church buildings do that Jesus didn't do or even more?

My question was not if Jesus was mobile or not but why He didn't erect a church building despite having a church.

Yet His church was the greatest church ever despite not having a church building, to show you that church was not about church buildings, but human beings.

That's where God now dwells in...it's the House greater than the temple that Jesus said He built without hands. Mark 14:58

By the way, I'm not against the building church buildings, but taking them to be more than what they truly are...mere places of worship etc.
Re: Covid-19 And The Closure Of Churches: A Wake-up Call To Church Leaders by BackllGodNaija: 7:02am On Jun 07, 2020
A wake-up call.

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