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Re: FFK: Pull Down The Statue Of Tinubu, The Slave Owner by Yujin(m): 7:48pm On Jun 10, 2020
StaffofOrayan:
This is all stupid lies told by uneducated clowns.
Slave raiding was done by professional Fulani slave raiders, its in all the history books, it used to be called the Muhammedian slave trade
I suspect FFK's family are Fulani moles,
The Egbas were known to be fiercely anti slavery.
Madam Tinubu (not to be mistaken for Ahmed Tinubu) was born in 1810, slavery was abolished in 1807, use ur damn head

Modified
The Igbo's gloating on this thread are too shallow to see what is going on, its a conspiracy against southerners, I was reading about the slave trade in the Bight of Biafra and was amazed to see Arochukwu priest were accused of being behind the trade! The British and Fulani has removed themselves.

Y'all better wake up!!
No fulani crossed Benue talk more of Igboland hence was not involved in any slave trade in the Bight of Biafra. Though tiny number of hausas/northerners were sold from Bonny.
Two of the most notorious slave traders from Igboland were Omenuko and Obi Ossai.
Successive kings of Bonny were serious slave traders.

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Re: FFK: Pull Down The Statue Of Tinubu, The Slave Owner by Nobody: 7:58pm On Jun 10, 2020
SINCE I WAS BORN, TRAVELLING AND READING BOOKS, I HAVE NEVER SEEN PEOPLE AS USELESS AND SENSELESS AS THESE CROP OF LAZY NIGERIAN YOUTHS.


A BLACK MAN WAS KILLED IN AMERICA BY A WHITE MAN THERE WERE HERE RANTING, CURSING AND WAILING. THEY NEVER TALK OF WORSE THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN THEIR BACKYARD. BLACK LIVES MATTER PROTEST IS GOING ON AND STATUES OF SLAVES OWNERS ARE BEING PULLED THE LAZY NIGERIA YOUTHS ARE APPLAUDING,. THEN SOMEONE TALKED OF ONE OF THE BLACK FIGURES THAT FACILITATED THE TRADE AN ALL HEAVENS IS LET LOOSE. INSULTS HERE AND THERE. EVEN FROM PEOPLE WHO CAN'T BE FKK GATE-MAN.


FRUSTRATION BAD O.



FOOLS YOU KNOW I DON'T BOTHER REPLYING YOUR QUOTES.

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Re: FFK: Pull Down The Statue Of Tinubu, The Slave Owner by xpool(m): 8:15pm On Jun 10, 2020
Macro231101:
How I wish she Sold my ancestors to USA it would have been better
And you would have been GEORGE FLOYD

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Re: FFK: Pull Down The Statue Of Tinubu, The Slave Owner by Roozzaay(m): 8:18pm On Jun 10, 2020
festacman:
FFK may be a loudmouthed GADFLY but if and if records clearly and truly show that late Madam Efunporoye Tinubu was a FACILITATOR in slave trade system that kidnapped Africans from their villages and sold them into slavery in foreign lands, then her statue should be pulled down immediately.

It means Madam Efunporoye Tinubu was part of system that took late George Floyd's foreparents to US in the first place thereby making his murder possible.

It means that Madam Efunporoye Tinubu is no different from that murderous white Minneapolis policeman that killed George.

It means at times like this, Madam Efunporoye Tinubu should in the trial dock of the court of time.
She was indeed a facilitator. She and one chief from Badagry, i forgot his name, was major facilitators in West Africa... FFK is right on this

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Re: FFK: Pull Down The Statue Of Tinubu, The Slave Owner by jrusky(m): 8:21pm On Jun 10, 2020
StaffofOrayan:
This is all stupid lies told by uneducated clowns.
Slave raiding was done by professional Fulani slave raiders, its in all the history books, it used to be called the Muhammedian slave trade
I suspect FFK's family are Fulani moles,
The Egbas were known to be fiercely anti slavery.
Madam Tinubu (not to be mistaken for Ahmed Tinubu) was born in 1810, slavery was abolished in 1807, use ur damn head

Modified
The Igbo's gloating on this thread are too shallow to see what is going on, its a conspiracy against southerners, I was reading about the slave trade in the Bight of Biafra and was amazed to see Arochukwu priest were accused of being behind the trade! The British and Fulani has removed themselves.

Y'all better wake up!!

Bro just ignore them let them be vomitting their livers in ignorant.

Read they won't as a matter of fact you can't believe NECO awaiting result are the most abusive here who has not even pass NECO and many of them are on borrowed data so their is no way they won't talk silly.

Bro thanks for the enlightment. Peace!!!

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Re: FFK: Pull Down The Statue Of Tinubu, The Slave Owner by phemmyfour: 8:24pm On Jun 10, 2020
Farki:
I agree with him, I don't know why this woman is idolised.
She fought the British from taking over Lagos.


Oba Akintoye rewarded her with several valuable stores in Lagos and built a massive house for her to match her status. She became a close advisor of the Oba and was very influential in his decision making. Madam Tinubu later became an advocate for the abolition of the colonial slave trade after realising the torture and sufferings that slaves went through.

She became a staunch advocate against British rule and was exiled. Her exile was because she had secretly organised a plot to remove British Consul Benjamin Campell in 1856 but was confronted and escorted out of Lagos at gunpoint.

She moved to Abeokuta where she traded in firearms and gunpowder being a major supplier during the war against Dahomey. Through her political influence and power, Madam Efunroye was able to get many traditional rulers including Oba Akintoye to sign documents that ended Africans selling other Africans to the Europeans.

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Re: FFK: Pull Down The Statue Of Tinubu, The Slave Owner by salford1: 8:25pm On Jun 10, 2020
Sometimes FFK dey make sense.
Re: FFK: Pull Down The Statue Of Tinubu, The Slave Owner by SeniorMan5: 8:27pm On Jun 10, 2020
FFK may not be the best messenger on this topic but he is absolutely right and telling the truth. There are many certified history books that have named Madam Tinubu as one of the top barons of the African slave trade. Infact Lagos city, in the early 18th century, was built of the proceeds of the transatlantic slave trade practiced by most of the indigenous tribes then.

17th century West Africa was a lot different than what it is today. There was no unity among tribes, even among tribes that spoke the same language. For example, the Egba’s fought with the Ibadan people, who were fighting with the Ijaye tribe (now extinct), who were fighting with the Ijebu-ode’s and so forth. So slaves were spoils of these wars. So the spoils of these wars (slaves) were mostly sold to European traders on the African coast in exchange for ammunitions to service these wars and provide protection. The Hausas people of the middle belt were also casualties of this practice as most were captured and sold off in Lagos. Slave trade was so rife in Lagos that after it was abolished by the then colonial government, there were a lot of Hausa freed slaves left in Lagos. This pushed the then colonial governor to form the first Nigerian military regiment (then called “The Lagos Army”) from free Hausa slaves (google “Glover’s Hausas”). Glover’s Army later went on to become the Nigerian Army after amalgamation.

For those using madam Tinubu’s birth year (1810) as defense I say this….. The height of the transatlantic slave trade in the US was between 1785 (shortly after the US independence) and the 1850’s. Slavery was not officially abolished in the US until Pres. Lincoln signed the “Emancipation Proclamation” in 1863. So using 1810 as defense is highly flawed as slavery was not fully abolished in the US until 1863 most of with came from west Africa.

FFK is a lot of things, some which I definitely agree he is lol, but he is definitely not lying on this one. The African slave trade is one of the Blackman’s (Africa’s) original sin. This sin was mostly committed due to ignorance; however, it did not exclude us (the off springs) from reaping the evil fruits of this sin. We as Africans need to come to terms with this fact and find ways to do right so we can break the chains on us.

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Re: FFK: Pull Down The Statue Of Tinubu, The Slave Owner by salford1: 8:34pm On Jun 10, 2020
mencer:
The statues has historical information why pull it down?
They can pull them down, and place them in the museum. People can go and check them out there.

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Re: FFK: Pull Down The Statue Of Tinubu, The Slave Owner by ajl: 8:52pm On Jun 10, 2020
There is a lot of things we Nigerians have yet to get foreclosure on. And these include knowing the full history of those that benefited from slavery on our side. That history must be made open.
Re: FFK: Pull Down The Statue Of Tinubu, The Slave Owner by sloothysandy: 8:53pm On Jun 10, 2020
SmartPolician:
The Yorubas love their oppressors

Yea from most of their comments I am observing that, like I had to read to know what kind of mindset these set of people have there is so much slave oppressed mentality in their comments they are so scared as well maybe they need to go back to their history cos they sound really oppressed and whipped to stupor to believe that their oppressor is their God but looks like some of them have chosen to see the light but majority thinks wrong is right ... Alarming

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Re: FFK: Pull Down The Statue Of Tinubu, The Slave Owner by ajl: 8:56pm On Jun 10, 2020
Farki:
I agree with him, I don't know why this woman is idolised.

Not different from what you see today where the poor idolize the well-to-do, and sometime their legend remain for the future generation.
Re: FFK: Pull Down The Statue Of Tinubu, The Slave Owner by ajl: 8:56pm On Jun 10, 2020
SmartPolician:
The Yorubas love their oppressors

Don't generalize.
Re: FFK: Pull Down The Statue Of Tinubu, The Slave Owner by Nobody: 8:57pm On Jun 10, 2020
xpool:

And you would have been GEORGE FLOYD
I wont...
Re: FFK: Pull Down The Statue Of Tinubu, The Slave Owner by ajl: 9:01pm On Jun 10, 2020
Macro231101:
How I wish she Sold my ancestors to USA it would have been better

When African American see this kind of comment they would wonder what type beings are some Nigerians. Go watch a true-life slavery movie or read a slavery novel, then come back here to repeat that statement.

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Re: FFK: Pull Down The Statue Of Tinubu, The Slave Owner by keneck1: 9:06pm On Jun 10, 2020
ipob hero
Re: FFK: Pull Down The Statue Of Tinubu, The Slave Owner by Farki: 9:18pm On Jun 10, 2020
phemmyfour:
She fought the British from taking over Lagos.


Oba Akintoye rewarded her with several valuable stores in Lagos and built a massive house for her to match her status. She became a close advisor of the Oba and was very influential in his decision making. Madam Tinubu later became an advocate for the abolition of the colonial slave trade after realising the torture and sufferings that slaves went through.

She became a staunch advocate against British rule and was exiled. Her exile was because she had secretly organised a plot to remove British Consul Benjamin Campell in 1856 but was confronted and escorted out of Lagos at gunpoint.

She moved to Abeokuta where she traded in firearms and gunpowder being a major supplier during the war against Dahomey. Through her political influence and power, Madam Efunroye was able to get many traditional rulers including Oba Akintoye to sign documents that ended Africans selling other Africans to the Europeans.

The same Tinubu who continued to trade slaves after the British outlawed it and said drowning them is preferable to lowering their price?

How will you trade slaves and not know they are treated badly?

The claims of her being benevolent seem like revisionism.

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Re: FFK: Pull Down The Statue Of Tinubu, The Slave Owner by xpool(m): 9:20pm On Jun 10, 2020
Macro231101:
I wont...
In fact, you are lower than a slave
Re: FFK: Pull Down The Statue Of Tinubu, The Slave Owner by danielog(m): 9:24pm On Jun 10, 2020
Just passing by coolJust passing by
Re: FFK: Pull Down The Statue Of Tinubu, The Slave Owner by Femeto: 9:25pm On Jun 10, 2020
Baba go pull am down yourself. You go know say concrete and metal no be mate.

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Re: FFK: Pull Down The Statue Of Tinubu, The Slave Owner by Midex88(m): 9:40pm On Jun 10, 2020
Fortunately, Ebenezer Obey sang for this woman in one of his numerous albums, and listed the Iyalodes in chronological order. Madam Tinubu was the first, madam jojolola was the second and the third was chief mrs Esther Bisoye Tejuoso with The late simbiat Abiola, the Otun iyalode.
She was a great woman, and greater is the fact that she had immense influence in business, politics and state affairs

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Re: FFK: Pull Down The Statue Of Tinubu, The Slave Owner by SirBunky85(m): 9:50pm On Jun 10, 2020
Esseite:
You destroyed the statues of those who bought slaves, but keep the statues of those who sold slaves..

The hypocrisy.
is there any hypocrite more dan u?why not go with ur family to pull the statue down?

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Re: FFK: Pull Down The Statue Of Tinubu, The Slave Owner by idiopathic: 9:53pm On Jun 10, 2020
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efunsetan_Aniwura

African slave owners were even more vicious than the caucasians, as illustrated in the link- Efunsetan Aniwura had over 2000 slaves and decapitated over 41. In Africa, slaves were routinely killed and buried with kings etc. No one comes out with their heads high, all tribes were complicit from South to the North.
Let's not forget the trans-sahara slave trade that resulted in over 180 million black Africans dying. The Arab slave owners kept female slaves in their harem, and castrated the men, hence the low population of blacks in the middle east despite the mammoth slave trade and till date, some Arab countries still have slavery and refer to blacks as slaves, but no one seems to protest.
Re: FFK: Pull Down The Statue Of Tinubu, The Slave Owner by leaculpa: 9:59pm On Jun 10, 2020
Sagay212:
Slave ownership dates back to the old times even before Jesus was born. Slavery has been modernised now. I'm sure somebody like FFk has up to 3 or 4 house helps in his house. That's refined slavery.
Facts. I have never had a live in housegirl. If I really need help, I hire someone (above 20yrs) to do 9-5 work & i pay them their monthly salary directly, not to a slave master.

Did you know the term 'houseboy' is from the slave era. Its what they called the house slave, because they also had field slaves. Nothing changed in nigeria, the buying & selling of slaves is commonplace.
Re: FFK: Pull Down The Statue Of Tinubu, The Slave Owner by StaffofOrayan(m): 10:12pm On Jun 10, 2020
Yujin:

No fulani crossed Benue talk more of Igboland hence was not involved in any slave trade in the Bight of Biafra. Though tiny number of hausas/northerners were sold from Bonny.
Two of the most notorious slave traders from Igboland were Omenuko and Obi Ossai.
Successive kings of Bonny were serious slave traders.

Go and read more
A lot of people get surprised to hear Fulani's control Northern Cameroon
Like Ambazonia like Nigeria
History has been distorted
Re: FFK: Pull Down The Statue Of Tinubu, The Slave Owner by Myself2(m): 10:16pm On Jun 10, 2020
FFK is right
No nation should idolize slave traders
So let him release the strategy for pulling it down, once I see him in the front, I will join him with a sledgehammer

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Re: FFK: Pull Down The Statue Of Tinubu, The Slave Owner by leaculpa: 10:17pm On Jun 10, 2020
If he likes he should go remove the statue. Lagos state government will put up another one. There is no history of precolonial lagos without madam tinubu. She practically owned all of ikeja.

The governor-general of Nigeria (colonial era) was the one that placed that statue in that square in lagos island, just near the seat of power. The only nigerian human statue they erected. Thats how influential she was.
Re: FFK: Pull Down The Statue Of Tinubu, The Slave Owner by AmeLonRo(m): 10:20pm On Jun 10, 2020
hmmmnnnnn.

BERNIMOORE:
Also to be pulled down is faremi Abass William a slave trader in Badagry known to Format his captured slaves Brain with a magic water. slave trade never ended, it only evolves Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu is trading Lagos state...having the present Governor Sanwo Eko(Tinubu was dubbed Eko Himself) serving his 6th term while his former P.A are forced against oracles choice as kings (,Oba Elegushi of IKate and the New Oniru) were his former P.A that is the New slave master in Town
Re: FFK: Pull Down The Statue Of Tinubu, The Slave Owner by babtoundey(m): 10:47pm On Jun 10, 2020
Farki:


King Leopold II of Belgium has statues and is still remembered fondly despite what happened in the Congo 'free' state. Horrible people get remembered because the people remembering them were not affected by their actions or simply didn't know.

Maybe in the future there will be statues of Shekau all over Nigeria.

You're right Shakau will always, probably forever, be remembered. But never for what he is not and has never been. Never will he and his like be remembered in good light. A villain remains a villain even in death. Madam Tinubu was a worrior, a patriot and a passionate lover of her people and nation. She's not known or remembered for her line of trade or choice of business but for what she achieved for her nation.

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Re: FFK: Pull Down The Statue Of Tinubu, The Slave Owner by pseudaria: 10:52pm On Jun 10, 2020
Thothafx:
Nobody take this frustrated soul serious anymore.

But you are rejoicing over the dethronement and prosecution of white supremacists and slave traders whilst you continue to extol the few persons who captured dehumanized and sold their own kin and kith for monetary gain. Shame on you
Re: FFK: Pull Down The Statue Of Tinubu, The Slave Owner by sweetilicious(f): 10:54pm On Jun 10, 2020
festacman:
FFK may be a loudmouthed GADFLY but if and if records clearly and truly show that late Madam Efunporoye Tinubu was a FACILITATOR in slave trade system that kidnapped Africans from their villages and sold them into slavery in foreign lands, then her statue should be pulled down immediately.

It means Madam Efunporoye Tinubu was part of system that took late George Floyd's foreparents to US in the first place thereby making his murder possible.

It means that Madam Efunporoye Tinubu is no different from that murderous white Minneapolis policeman that killed George.

It means at times like this, Madam Efunporoye Tinubu should in the trial dock of the court of time.
To think their statues were erected at first is a big shame.To glorify them as heroes?

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Re: FFK: Pull Down The Statue Of Tinubu, The Slave Owner by babtoundey(m): 10:58pm On Jun 10, 2020
phemmyfour:
She fought the British from taking over Lagos.


Oba Akintoye rewarded her with several valuable stores in Lagos and built a massive house for her to match her status. She became a close advisor of the Oba and was very influential in his decision making. Madam Tinubu later became an advocate for the abolition of the colonial slave trade after realising the torture and sufferings that slaves went through.

She became a staunch advocate against British rule and was exiled. Her exile was because she had secretly organised a plot to remove British Consul Benjamin Campell in 1856 but was confronted and escorted out of Lagos at gunpoint.

She moved to Abeokuta where she traded in firearms and gunpowder being a major supplier during the war against Dahomey. Through her political influence and power, Madam Efunroye was able to get many traditional rulers including Oba Akintoye to sign documents that ended Africans selling other Africans to the Europeans.

God will bless you.fpr this compilation.
This so called "slave trader" as I read was against the Colonia government in Lagos. She considered the acceptance of colonial authority in Lagos as madness. This was the reason why she was banished to her home town in Abeokuta where she helped Egba worrior quenched incessant disturbance of Dahomey.

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