Watch for any of these three signs in any Bible Preacher

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZJ_c9wKal8

A bible teacher is known by the consistency of the truth he preaches by the word of God and also by the focus of his message

Once a person carries the Bible in his hand, you have no means of verifying his authenticity. His way of life doesn't make his message or preaching fake.
Note that Judas Iscariot was one of the twelve Apostles of Christ, definitely when Jesus dispatched them to go out and preach, Judas Iscariot must be one leading a team of preachers as well and his preaching which is directly from his master is authentic.
So the only way to identify a fake preacher is the group to which such a preacher belongs!
Anybody can carry the Bible to preach but if the group doesn't belong to Christ no amount of sincerity in the preacher can authenticate his preaching!
That's why Apollos was made to understand that he need to associate with the right group no matter how sincere he is! Act 18:24-28

Maximus69:
Once a person carries the Bible in his hand, you have no means of verifying his authenticity. His way of life doesn't make his message or preaching fake.
Note that Judas Iscariot was one of the twelve Apostles of Christ, definitely when Jesus dispatched them to go out and preach, Judas Iscariot must be one leading a team of preachers as well and his preaching which is directly from his master is authentic.
So the only way to identify a fake preacher is the group to which such a preacher belongs!
Anybody can carry the Bible to preach but if the group doesn't belong to Christ no amount of sincerity in the preacher can authenticate his preaching!
That's why Apollos was made to understand that he need to associate with the right group no matter how sincere he is! Act 18:24-28

Did Judas belong to the wrong group.

All points above you and your initial points are valid

You decided to confuse me at the latter end

Bartork:


Did Judas belong to the wrong group.
All points above you and your initial points are valid
You decided to confuse me at the latter end

What i meant is there is nothing like fake Bible preacher, rather it's fake religious groups carrying Bible that you can direct.
Judas was a confirmed true Bible preacher because he taught what Jesus commanded. But a Pharisee can never preach the truth because he doesn't belong to the right source of information! John 8:44

Maximus69:

What i meant is there is nothing like fake Bible preacher, rather it's fake religious groups carrying Bible that you can direct.
Judas was a confirmed true Bible preacher because he taught what Jesus commanded. But a Pharisee can never preach the truth because he doesn't belong to the right source of information! John 8:44

Correct

Bartork:

Did Judas belong to the wrong group.
All points above you and your initial points are valid
You decided to confuse me at the latter end

It has little or nothing to do with group but the fruits that are produced by the person in question.

Jesus was clear that by there fruit's you shall know them. Even the world is not blind to those fruits

Kobojunkie:
It has little or nothing to do with group but the fruits that are produced by the person in question.
Jesus was clear that by there fruit's you shall know them. Even the world is not blind to those fruits

The world, sometimes knowingly, call apples, oranges, nah. The world at times sees a dog and will say, it's a monkey. The world calls, kofam man of dog, moG nah.

MuttleyLaff:
The world sometimes knowingly call apples, oranges, nah. The world at times sees a dog and will say, it's a monkey.

I am sorry but Jesus Christ never specified that one needed special goggles to see the fruits in question. So be sure that they are not in any way "hidden" from the world in anyway.

And the logic to.understanding said fruits are simple. A bad tree cannot produce good fruits and a good tree cannot produce bad fruits.

Yes, the world is not blind to said fruits... they see them even before many of your so-called spiritual people even begin to recognize them in many cases.

Kobojunkie:

It has little or nothing to do with group but the fruits that are produced by the person in question.

Jesus was clear that by there fruit's you shall know them. Even the world is not blind to those fruits

If the world is not blind to the fruit of God's holy spirit, then why are they still under the power of Satan? 1John 5:19

Jesus was directing that statement to interested individuals who wants to IDENTIFY his group in the midst of various forms of religion all claiming Christians!

No single individual can bear the fruit of God's holy spirit because it belongs to the tree {John 15:1-6} so after an interested person have IDENTIFIED Jesus' group such a person will begin to enjoy all the benefits of the fruit of God's holy spirit! Galatians 5:22-23
But first you must be able to distinguish between the FRUIT of a tree and it's GIFT, these two are different things, the gift of a tree may also be found in another tree but each tree has it's unique fruit!
The mistake most people do is misconstruing the GIFT of God's holy spirit (which could be found in all religions) with the FRUIT of the spirit which can never be found elsewhere!

Maximus69:


If the world is not blind to the fruit of God's holy spirit, then why are they still under the power of Satan? 1John 5:19

Jesus was directing that statement to interested individuals who wants to IDENTIFY his group in the midst of various forms of religion all claiming Christians!

No single individual can bear the fruit of God's holy spirit because it belongs to the tree {John 15:1-6} so after an interested person have IDENTIFIED Jesus' group such a person will begin to enjoy all the benefits of the fruit of God's holy spirit! Galatians 5:22-23
But first you must be able to distinguish between the FRUIT of a tree and it's GIFT, these two are different things, the gift of a tree may also be found in another tree but each tree has it's unique fruit!
The mistake most people do is misconstruing the GIFT of God's holy spirit (which could be found in all religions) with the FRUIT of the spirit which can never be found elsewhere!

The fruits of the Spirit of God are not hidden fruits.
The light of Jesus Christ is not meant to be hidden from the world....anyone that tells you that special "spiritual" goggles are needed to see the fruits on your tree is a liar. That is a quick way to spot a liar... they will try to suggest that which Jesus Christ never said to be the case.

Kobojunkie:
I am sorry but Jesus Christ never specified that one needed special goggles to see the fruits in question. So be sure that they are not in any way "hidden" from the world in anyway.

And the logic to understanding said fruits are simple. A bad tree cannot produce good fruits and a good tree cannot produce bad fruits.

Yes, the world is not blind to said fruits... they see them even before many of your so-called spiritual people even begin to recognize them in many cases.

"If indeed you keep the royal law according to the Scripture,
"You shall love your neighbor as yourself," you are doing well."
- James 2:8

"⁸Be indebted to no one, except to one another in love,
for he who loves his neighbor has fulfilled the Law.
¹⁰Love does no wrong to its neighbor.
Therefore love is the fulfillment of the Law."
- Romans 13:8 & 10

Why you have to personalise this and be using "... your so-called spiritual people" is a betrayal that I might have stepped on a nerve, lmao.

It is a fact that in spite of knowing what an apple fruit looks like, the world still, when it suits the world, openly and clearly seeing, will chose to call apples, oranges, this is an indisputable fact. Church goers hail scammers, adulterers, liars, thieves as Daddy GO, Mummy pastors, bishops, Apostles, prophets et cetera in spite of glaring bad fruits they see being displayed.

Jesus doesnt need to specify everything and all things. Everything that's needs be specified, is already captured and is encapsulated in the Royal law (i.e. James 2:8 and Romans 13:8&10)

Kobojunkie:

The fruits of the Spirit of God are not hidden fruits.
The light of Jesus Christ is not meant to be hidden from the world....anyone that tells you that special "spiritual" goggles are needed to see the fruits on your tree is a liar. That is a quick way to spot a liar... they will try to suggest that which Jesus Christ never said to be the case.

Jesus himself said about people who are not really interested in spiritual things "looking or listening will not improve their senses" {Matthew 13:13} how will they IDENTIFY the fruit that's going to cure them? Matthew 13:15

So my friend, the fruit of God's holy must be shown to you before you can IDENTIFY it, just as you need to show your little baby the different fruit and teach the child how the fruit benefits the body. The same way an interested person needs to be shown the fruit of God's holy spirit so that whenever he comes across the tree bearing it he won't mistake it for another!

Maximus69:


Jesus himself said about people who are not really interested in spiritual things "looking or listening will not improve their senses" {Matthew 13:13} how will they IDENTIFY the fruit that's going to cure them? Matthew 13:15

So my friend, the fruit of God's holy must be shown to you before you can IDENTIFY it, just as you need to show your little baby the different fruit and teach the child how the fruit benefits the body. The same way an interested person needs to be shown the fruit of God's holy spirit so that whenever he comes across the tree bearing it he won't mistake it for another!

Nowhere does Jesus Christ suggest to you or anyone that the fruits in question are ONLY seen in spirit. Fruits are typically brightly colored on a tree so they are easy for the eye to spot when ripe.
The fruits of a tree are usually easy to see even from a distance. So even those with somewhat faulty sight can spot them

Even the light that is to shine through those who are His is not hidden.

Also, the job of the holy spirit is not indicated as show-er of fruits. He will reveal hidden things, but since fruits are not hidden, it is not indicated anywhere in scripture that He will reveal fruits or He is revealer of unhidden fruits..

Let's please stick to that which is indeed written

MuttleyLaff:
"If indeed you keep the royal law according to the Scripture,
"You shall love your neighbor as yourself," you are doing well."
- James 2:8

"⁸Be indebted to no one, except to one another in love,
for he who loves his neighbor has fulfilled the Law.
¹⁰Love does no wrong to its neighbor.
Therefore love is the fulfillment of the Law."
- Romans 13:8 & 10

Why you have to personalise this and be using "... your so-called spiritual people" is a betrayal that I might have stepped on a nerve, lmao.

It is a fact that in spite of knowing what an apple fruit looks like, the world still, when it suits the world, openly and clearly seeing, will chose to call apples, oranges, this is an indisputable fact. Church goers hail scammers, adulterers, liars, thieves as Daddy GO, Mummy pastors, bishops, Apostles, prophets et cetera in spite of glaring bad fruits they see being displayed.

Jesus doesnt need to specify everything and all things. Everything that's needs be specified, is already captured and is encapsulated in the Royal law (i.e. James 2:8 and Romans 13:8&10)

James and Paul were men who happened to be apostles.
Jesus Christ on the other hand is the Truth ...the word of God. And since He made it clear that you only need to know the quality of the fruits to know the tree, it is so.

The same Jesus Christ spoke of His light which is also meant to be seen even by the world. If He wanted us to believe it all hidden, He would have said so. But since He did not, then know that tjeu are not.

Kobojunkie:

It has little or nothing to do with group but the fruits that are produced by the person in question.

Jesus was clear that by there fruit's you shall know them. Even the world is not blind to those fruits

Did you read what he wrote

Kobojunkie:
James and Paul were men who happened to be apostles

These are credible Apostles vouched to be following Jesus. I hope you don't harbour reason(s) to doubt their integrity, virtue and/or trustworthiness

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ on the other hand is the Truth ...the word of God. And since He made it clear that you only need to know the quality of the fruits to know the tree, it is so.

Keep on arguing with yourself, the fact stands that church goers called Peter, Paul, call Jacob to be Esau, though they know. It is not like as if church goers and/or the world, feel the hand of Esau, but hear the voice of Jacob, no, its that, they actually see its Jacob, yet still prefer to take him as Esau

Bartork:

Did you read what he wrote

I happen to know of a pastor who hangs around a bunch of strippers. His mother was a stripper and he grew up around strippers, but he is now a pastor , and works to help women to transition out of the stripping industry when they are ready to. He even started working with prostitutes not too long ago.

Now if we were to jugde fakes using the p rovided "group" analogy, that pastor is to be condemned by some so-called men of god, don't you think?

But guess what, God does not condemn is by the such. And He never told us to look at such things but instead at the fruits of the tree in question.

So yes, i did read the post and felt there was need to bring it back to what Jesus Christ really instructed us to look out for.

Kobojunkie:

Nowhere does Jesus Christ suggest to you or anyone that the fruits in question are ONLY seen in spirit. Fruits are typically brightly colored on a tree so they are easy for the eye to spot when ripe.
The fruits of a good tree are usually easy to see even from a distance. So even those with somewhat faulty sight can spot them

Even the light that is to shine through those who are His is not hidden.

Also, the job of the holy spirit is not indicated as shower of fruits. He will reveal hidden things, but since fruits are not hidden, it is not indicated anywhere in scripture as fruit revealer...let's not keep pretending Him to be what He is not.

Thanks for your time Sir!

Mowriyah:
Watch for any of these three signs in any Bible Preacher

Kobojunkie:
I happen to know of a pastor who hangs around a bunch of strippers. His mother was a stripper and he grew up around strippers, but he is now a pastor , and works to help women to transition out of the stripping industry when they are ready to. He even started working with prostitutes not too long ago.

Now if we were to jugde fakes using the p rovided "group" analogy, that pastor is to be condemned by some so-called men of god, don't you think?

But guess what, God does not condemn is by the such. And He never told us to look at such things but instead at the fruits of the tree in question.

So yes, i did read the post and felt there was need to bring it back to what Jesus Christ really instructed us to look out for.

Jesus hung out with the "Basket of deplorables", with drunkards, adulteresses, tax collectors, sinner, prostitutes/strippers et cetera and nobody judged Jesus for association with them except for "church goers" Nobody, except for the "pastors, GOs, prophets, bishops et cetera" of the day, condemned Jesus for wining, dinning and sitting with the marginalised, the downtrodden, the oppressed, the misused and abused, the fallen by the wayside, fall in between the gaps and/or crack, the left behind, the wretched et cetera.

Guess what, the thing with you, is that you don't want to admit that, people in spite of what they clearly do see, still go ahead to knowingly take and make one fruit for another.

Pastors are switching wives as if taking off wrappers. People have this warped sense of entitlement to boldly cajole the sheeple out of their hard earned sweat, blood and gut money. Widows are fair game and target practice, they aren't off limits to them but people still turn blind eyes to all the injustice, fuckries, fakeries and plastic fruits put on display

False teachers, getting audiences from those with itching ears. Sexual scandals, even rape and death while doing academic studies in a supposedly safe haven church(es), meant to be a place of refuge or security. Staged miracles miracles, but coronavirus has exposed many of the charlatans. Obtaining money by pecuniary from the pulpit. Dubious people, sure can be known by their fruits - good character, the good nature of the person, but the irony is some are also very good at displaying plastic fruits, convincingly looking like real good fruits