Pavore9:
But some people did burn and still burn such carvings in their communities with the belief that they are demonic.

They even disgraced those that worshipped/worshipping it. Hypocrite everywhere.

chloride6:
The case of stolen artifacts is funny..

Because it only worth something because it was stolen..

If it wasnt stolen it wouldn't be worth squat

Artifacts are pointers to your civilization. If you go to Egypt today the artifacts in that land are the main sources for archaeological findings. If those artifacts were not there we won't know much about Egyptian past today. I don't blame you i blame our leaders because they have neglected African history. If you don't teach/learn history you won't make enquiries about your past. When enquiries about the past are made then artifacts are needed because they offer more clue to the past.

JomoGbomo1Akpos:
You didn't do a proper research bro. It's obvious that you're a RCCG member who lost faith.

There was never a time that people were forced to become christians at gun point. You need to do a less biased research and study the difference between the Colonialists and the Christian Missionaries. They both came with different intentions and often times clashed. They were never one and the same.

Bro, trying to seperate colonialism and Christian missionaries is like trying to separate the Christian God from Jesus. It's impossible. One is the father (colonialism) that birthed the child (Christian missionary).

Christianity didn't get to us until the colonialist came and its a reason why your Jesus has always been portrayed as a white European despite every scientific and common sense evidence indicating otherwise. The idea of a white savior was birthed with the introduction of Christianity and that idea is still stuck in our subconscious till date.


When the white man came, he brought guns on one hand and the Bible on the other hand. If You weren't ready to accept their Jesus, you better be certain you might be on the receiving end of the lead.

When i was younger, I dreamt that God appeared and made a revelation to me. I later shared this with my pastor (who also happens to be one of my parent) Do you know the form he appeared in? That of a white man. Yes you heard that right.. GOD APPEARED TO ME AS A WHITE MAN!! That right there is the definition of subconcious and mental slavery and what the colonialists aimed to achieve with Christianity and so far its been successful beyond their wildest dreams.

Do NOT seperate colonialism from the Christian Missionaries. They were one and the same!


Here are some articles for your perusal. I doubt your mind will be changed, but there is no harm in trying...

https://scholarblogs.emory.edu/violenceinafrica/sample-page/the-philosophy-of-colonialism-civilization-christianity-and-commerce/

https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/cambridge-history-of-christianity/christianity-colonialism-and-missions/DEA95716527862766967A55CE8E9D42D

https://www.africanexponent.com/post/8572-christianity-was-used-to-exploit-africans-through-colonization

iAmTheJoker:

Hope your country escapes poverty soon. God bless

And I hope your bigotry leaves you soon. Orunmila bless you!

dasparrow:


Don't waste your precious time arguing with that bigot. He is not an African in case you haven't noticed. Many white supremacists have started infiltrating black forums because white supremacists are a mentally ill people so don't assume everyone on Nairaland is African. Careful who you choose to engage.

I realized this a couple of weeks ago and actually wanted to leave nairaland for good. But it is most dangerous to let this wicked people run rampage on our people psychs.

There are kids here whose brain are still in the maturation stage. They are the future of our country and continent at large and we absolutely should destroy every mental image of white supremacy in their minds, so that the future black man and woman can rise to be kings again!

ottersberger:
I visited a catholic monastery many years ago in Sankt Ottilien Germany, what I saw brought tears to my eyes. Authentic antique African art pieces on display and in good numbers. They sure didn't purchase these from the legitimate owners. As it stands, I'm still planning to sue then in a law court.

Why?. Because, according to German law, if a man breaks into your house and steals your belonging, then sells the stolen goods to another, even if the receiver indeed paid for the received goods, but since it is stolen from another, the receiver has committed a crime even if unwittingly, and must return the stolen goods to the rightful owner. The people who purportedly sold these masterpieces for a whistle were not the rightful owners, so the transfer could not have been lawful.

The European has always found a way to explain their cleptomania away when it comes to their dealings with Africa, and until citizens unite to sue France and Britain (nothing great about them) in their very own courts with attendant media attention, they will keep getting away with murdering a peoples culture and traditions.

I think Nigerian Authorities ought to seize any asset attributable to Christie's and whoever is behind the auction in Nigeria or use its clout to do the same in any African or allied country. This is the position Nigerian politicians ought to be struggling to stand the country instead of the asinine stealing and pauperizing the population that have become their stock in trade.

Who would think that priests are also thieves.

We should link up bro. I will be down with proceeding with that lawsuit.

drlateef:
The sale has been stopped. It was on BBC News yesterday.

That is a lie, The sale proceeded.

People just making noise. Why don't they file for an injunction in court against the sale pending whether the sale is legal or not. At least that's taking a reasonable step towards what they believe. But no...,be making noise up and down.

ahukannakate:

How does one make a post??

Click the "Nairaland forum logo"

Go to "Topic" your post will be under maybe Culture, sports, phone, art, celebrities etc it's at the top of the page

Then look for "create new topic"

Everything British, fulani, and Yoruba with the help of sabotours stolen from Biafraland, must be return back to Biafraland.

Even the gods are waiting for the command of our King. Mazi. Nnamdi Kanu, to destroy our oppressors once and for all and set Biafrans free forever more.

These archaic woods cannot be even half of one of our problems.


Let us pay them for the holding fee.

See people gods wey them tiff. Imagine an utterance like ''my god was taken/stolen!'' So the gods no fit use thunder take fire the tiff? Na wa o!

DuBLINGreenb:


Click the "Nairaland forum logo"

Go to "Topic" your post will be under maybe Culture, sports, phone, art, celebrities etc it's at the top of the page
K
Then look for "create new topic"

Thank you

itsme01:




Na Oyinbo begin looting, but blaming hushpuppi and mompha for the revenge mission

Wetin Oyinbo no steal from us, resources, human as slaves, Agro products, our deity and occultic power, they even taxed us in our own land

Anyways Nigeria has the typical crab mentality, and would rather fight each others while supporting the real oppressor


Come to think of it, you claim african gods are idols and useless, and you gave us the middle eastern Gods, yet every of African Oracle and Idols you stole, looted and kept for centuries selling it for huge fee , repackaging it as illuminati occults


.

yet hushpuppy and the rest return back to them what they've gotten from their "revenge mission"

These artifacts or status might still have spiritual powers in them that makes these white people to pay so much money to acquire them.

White men used our deity gods to make aeroplane flying objects, make computers and science and technology(s) .

mondbest:
They took away our culture, our pride, our precious goldmine and gave us religion, tribalism, hate, corruption and still blame us for everything

That's because Africans believe that everything from the whiteman is superior to anything here on the African continent!

Kingbuhari:
They stole from Africa and greedily and greatly defended it, if hushpuppy and others stole from them they will fuming from mouth.... Operation loot any lootable motherfucker white dude u catch online let's make this hashtag go viral #FreeHussuppyInventusAndOthers ... Ndi Ara

KingBuhari so you're still alive
been long I heard from you though.
where is Arabmopol?

tydi:


The whites brought missionary and ended up looting our deities..

Blacks its time to wise up and sometimes do your thinking by yourselves.

I wonder.

EbenezerTriumph:
KingBuhari so you're still alive
been long I heard from you though.
where is Arabmopol?

I have been to self exile since the fussil in Aso Rock no agree die, we dey just dey look coro baby

I've told you to do a less biased research but i'm very sure you won't. The Colonialists came as business men and were trading palm oil, rubber, and later slaves more than two centuries before the missionaries were sent by several churches to propagate the gospel here.

Lol, you're surprised that Christ appeared to you as a white man? I'm sure if he had appeared to you as black you'd have casted him out as an evil spirit? What language did he speak with you? I hope he didin't speak Hebrew or Greek? The fact that he appeared in what you're familiar with means everything. He loves us an comes down to our level. If he had come with fire from heaven, none of his disciples would have followed him. They'd be scared to death.

austinvsb:


Bro, trying to seperate colonialism and Christian missionaries is like trying to separate the Christian God from Jesus. It's impossible. One is the father (colonialism) that birthed the child (Christian missionary).

Christianity didn't get to us until the colonialist came and its a reason why your Jesus has always been portrayed as a white European despite every scientific and common sense evidence indicating otherwise. The idea of a white savior was birthed with the introduction of Christianity and that idea is still stuck in our subconscious till date.


When the white man came, he brought guns on one hand and the Bible on the other hand. If You weren't ready to accept their Jesus, you better be certain you might be on the receiving end of the lead.

When i was younger, I dreamt that God appeared and made a revelation to me. I later shared this with my pastor (who also happens to be one of my parent) Do you know the form he appeared in? That of a white man. Yes you heard that right.. GOD APPEARED TO ME AS A WHITE MAN!! That right there is the definition of subconcious and mental slavery and what the colonialists aimed to achieve with Christianity and so far its been successful beyond their wildest dreams.

Do NOT seperate colonialism from the Christian Missionaries. They were one and the same!


Here are some articles for your perusal. I doubt your mind will be changed, but there is no harm in trying...

https://scholarblogs.emory.edu/violenceinafrica/sample-page/the-philosophy-of-colonialism-civilization-christianity-and-commerce/

https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/cambridge-history-of-christianity/christianity-colonialism-and-missions/DEA95716527862766967A55CE8E9D42D

https://www.africanexponent.com/post/8572-christianity-was-used-to-exploit-africans-through-colonization

sandrapretty:
cursedAbiola see this guy hate buhari pass you oh.
lol @bolded.
in his words "Coro misfired, it was supposed to be Buhari and not Kyari"
I forgot the link to his thread
The guy no well sha.

hahahaha lol , the fussil want to disgrace, eliminate and retire Lagos 1st LandTinubu before he join his ancestors

Assistance in locating the exact origin of these particular looted artifacts of Nigerian origin that was sold by Christies auction house UK
Pls could fellows in the house most especially from the East (Anambra State) in particular kindly assist in locating the exact origin village and community these artifacts came from.They were reportly looted from a particular community in present day Anambra State during the Nigerian Civil War A tread on this particular issue came up much earlier in the house (https://www.nairaland.com/5959807/christie-sells-nigerian-statues-igbo ) . In regard these concerned in the field of Cultural Emergency Response in Nigeria brought up the issue to the International organization concerned The International Blue Shield. The international body were very interested asuch and wanted to give it more international attention . But they wanted more information and evidence inview of the legal controversy involved in the issue before they could give it said desired action asuch. If we could locate the exact community it was looted from we would send an investigating team to the community to gather required evidence that they were indeed looted asuch. Paving way for said desired action to be taken by these concerned professional internationally .And ensure in the end the artifacts are possibly restituted back to the Nigerian Government and people of the community they were looted from. I would greatly appreciate said feedback with precise and useful information only.


The term “Cultural Emergency Response is a relatively new term in the field of professional undertakings worldwide most especially in the Disaster Management/Emergency Response field. But however as the clause “Cultural” it instills cultural property and with a combination of Emergency Response ,it simply denotes undertaking humanitarian relief aid to cultural property in dire emergency situations of man-made and natural disasters. It involves three professional outputs of Disaster Management, Cultural Heritage Management and Military Defense undertakings.
The field “Cultural Emergency Response” was recently brought to international limelight this current period in time ,in the wake of the Iraqi cultural heritage catastrophe which occurred during and in the aftermath of the American lead invasion of Iraq in 2003. In which there was a large level destruction of cultural property on an unprecedented scale ever imagined. This lead to the launch of the Cultural Emergency Response fund initiative shortly after by the Prince Claus organization in the Netherlands. And so brought about the said terminology “Cultural Emergency Response” to the dictionary of professional undertakings on one side and on the other international awareness of the field of cultural heritage protection in emergency situations to an enviable degree this present times. Actually the field of Cultural Emergency Response is directly related to a professional out put in the field of Records and Information Management (www.arma.org)termed “Disaster recovery and preparedness", in which strategic options in the field were implemented to protect vital records(written cultural heritage) from even the effects of a thermonuclear armed conflict situation.It would be recalled said strives towards the protection of cultural property in the event of armed conflict was initiated very much earlier far back in the late 1800s.
Pioneering modern day strive towards practically enhancing the field of CER was only initiated during the WWII by civilian cultural heritage specialists on the Allied side (known as the “Monuments Men”) depicted in an award winning 2014 war movie “The Monuments Men”.The said movie was directed by George Clooney featuring award winning actor Matt Damon (Jason Bourne) among others ). These brave men had to undergo military training and dorn battle dress and advance in combat with regular Allied troops across Europe to save cultural treasures from looting and destruction at risk of their lives.However it was just only in the 90s that related pioneering professional strives towards CER was only initiated internationally .This was via the inauguration of a top secret test run Cultural Emergency Response project (the 1998 UNESCO/ICA project to protect archives/vital records in the event of armed conflict).Quite interesting a Nigerian National ANDREW OISE EVBOROKHAI (May 8,1936-March 7,2001) made significant professional contribution to the development of the field than ever.As he was drafted amongst experts from Croatia, Costa-Rica, and the UK to participate in the project in which he served as the lead project consultant.The said project was termed“exciting and challenging” by its then project managerGeorge Mackenzie because of its unique strategic professional orientation never imagined. It would be called that George Mackenzie and late Andrew Evborokhai were among the pioneers of the International Blue Shield organization founded initially as the International Committee of the Blue Shield (ICBS).The organization is presently know as the International Blue Shield (IBS).
The International Blue Shield organization is simply the sister organization to the International Red Cross organization, and just like the Red Cross which was initially founded to undertake medical humanitarian relief aid to victims wounded during armed conflict. The Blue Shield was initially founded also to undertake humanitarian relief aid to cultural property in the event of armed conflict, and its legal basis of jurisprudence is under the 1954 Hague Convention on the protection of cultural property in the event of armed conflict. Just as overtime the Red Cross has greatly expanded its humanitarian relief aid operations to encompass all disaster occurrences. The Blue Shield also has also expanded its relief aid operations far beyond the specific disaster event of armed conflict. Sadly despite its highly significant important humanitarian role ,the Blue Shield is relatively very much under acknowledged unlike its sister organization the Red Cross which has won great fame the world all over in its humanitarian strive in even the remotest place on the globe.

I on behalf of concerned cultural property protection practitioners here in Nigeria since sent a statement on the issue to the International body concerned ,the INTERNATIONAL BLUE SHIELD and they took up the matter and just sent in a response to my mail to that effect.
Ohimai Evborokhai
CERPN (Cultural Emergency Response Professionals in Nigeria)