BeLookingIDIOT:

Yeah,just like Southerners should stop complaining about Fulani herdsmen since more of our homicides occur at our hands or OLAADEGBU and like-minded xtians should stop complaining about jihadists attacks on xtians since the usual xtian on xtian crimes claims more of their lives.

CoolUsername:


When the movement initiated by an organization leads to something good, it looks good for the organization. When it doesn't, it has nothing to do with the organization. Sounds like every organized religion in existence.

These protests are scheduled and organized by specifically by the organization but when they devolve into rioting and violence, people try to absolve the organization of all responsibility.

But since you know enough about BLM to gatekeep who is a part of it it not. Let me know what the goals of this organization are. Why did black people burn down and loot their own communities? For what cause was the little girl killed? Why are we promoting mass gatherings during a global pandemic when people who were protesting for the reopening of businesses were vilified?

CoolUsername:


FBI crime statistics tell a different story. Black people make up only 14% of the American population while white people make up over 65%. Black people still murdered white people over twice as much as white people murdered black people in 2018.

You have been sold a narrative.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2018/crime-in-the-u.s.-2018/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6.xls

sapientia:


Who told you black lives don't matter before?

Large movements for blacks

That's racism

Every life matter.

Blacks kill blacks daily

CoolUsername:


When the movement initiated by an organization leads to something good, it looks good for the organization. When it doesn't, it has nothing to do with the organization. Sounds like every organized religion in existence.

These protests are scheduled and organized by specifically by the organization but when they devolve into rioting and violence, people try to absolve the organization of all responsibility.

But since you know enough about BLM to gatekeep who is a part of it it not. Let me know what the goals of this organization are. Why did black people burn down and loot their own communities? For what cause was the little girl killed? Why are we promoting mass gatherings during a global pandemic when people who were protesting for the reopening of businesses were vilified?

LordReed:


You mentioned violence that took place in the Seattle CHOP, an area that the BLM organisation doesn't have control over so yes I am asking you what it has to do with them.

The Terry Crews twitter controversy I saw was about him tweeting that black liberation without white people is black supremacy. I didn't see anything about him being called a race traitor for condemning violence.

LordReed:


You are free to wilfully misrepresent everything I said. Its a waste of time to try to talk any further about this because you are not listening.

BeLookingIDIOT:


"Large movements for blacks,that's racism"- I don't understand how this makes an iota of sense to you.
Did they tell you every life life don't matter before?
This is like someone's loved one getting murdered,then he reports to the police and they dismiss him with "other people loose their loved ones too"
This all issue is about police brutality,you guys should stop shifting goalpost.

CoolUsername:


Factoring in the fact that despite making only 14% of the population black people commit almost half of the violent crime, your narrative still doesn't hold water.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/

LordReed:

I am open to learning your point.

BLM organisation are becoming or have become inseparable from the movement such that support for one is essentially support for the other which I am categorically calling bullocks.

I doubt that is what he meant. I read his statement as someone saying we should all have the presence of mind in separating the movement from the organisation, as sometimes that line can be blurred.

Interest groups have a long history of usually trying to control the narrative of an ideology/movement from within, effectively making the group and the movement one and the same. If people are not cautious of these at the onset, the leadership of these groups can become too powerful, at which point it's already too late (well except the movement itself breaks down).

jamesid29:


That's not my point. If you read my post again,you would see that the point i was making was, " they can become inseparable if people are not intentional in separating the two, as the line separating them can become blurry if you are not paying attention".

The time to warn against and curb the influence of interest groups or extremist ideas in any society is at their inceptions or when their influence has not yet been fully entrenched into the collective mindset. Once that happens,it's already too late.

Consolidation of power do not happen overnight, extremist ideas do not take hold at once. They take time and are usually a gradual process.
It's easy to dismiss the BLM organisation currently because they do not yet hold considerable influence, but the thing is they are trying to. Same goes for the extremist ideas floating around.

If there's one thing we can learn from history during this period is, whenever there's a disruption in the societal mindset or a vacuum in the society, there are always individuals ready to take advantage of it. The Nazi party and the Church during the middle ages are two extreme examples of how seemingly obscure groups of people and ideologies can slowly and gradually become very powerful and unchallengeable.

If there was ever a time to start ringing the alarm bells against interest groups and extremist ideas floating around during this racial equality climate, now is that time.
In summary: It's prudent to be very intentional about separating the BLM organisation from the black lives movement itself. Not because the BLM controls the movement now but because they are trying to.
Same goes for any extremist ideas trying to bundle itself with the racial equality conversation.

In Terry Crews case, He is speaking out mainly against any extremist ideas floating around in the racial equality conversation and not against any organisation in particular.




Below is my original post, so you can read it again in view of explanation.

BeLookingIDIOT:

Why not percentage of harmless people shot to death

CoolUsername:


Unarmed doesn't necessarily mean harmless. If in the process of arrest, the suspect gets shot while attempting to wrestle an officer's gun away from them, it is treated like shooting an unarmed suspect.

Now, I'm not saying that the police is perfect by any means, there is definitely a police brutality issue. There's a 2016 video of an unarmed man who called the police on himself because he was off his meds, the police came and sat on his back for 13 minutes while he complained that he couldn't breathe. The man eventually died, it it didn't go viral because he was white. It didn't fit the narrative so international didn't carry it and nobody cared.

The stats show the truth. The selectively reports what they want to generate the emotions they want from you.

CAPSLOCKED:


THE POWERS ABOVE KEEP PLAYING PRANKS WITH THE PUBLIC USING THE MEDIA. THEY'RE THE ONES CONTROLLING EVERYTHING INCLUDING RACISM, YES.
POLICE BRUTALITY EXISTS IN EVERY COUNTRY AND WHITES ALSO HAVE THEIR SHARE BUT IT'S HARDLY IN THE NEWS. IN US AND CANADA MORE WHITES ARE BULLIED EVERY YEAR BY THE POLICE THAN BLACKS (THERE ARE STATS TO PROVE THIS) BUT THE MEDIA ONLY SHOWS YOU THE SIDE THEY'RE ASKED TO SHOW.
THE LAST BLACK LIVES MATTER PROTESTS WERE ORGANIZED BY THE GOVERNMENT AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW THIS THEN I'M SORRY FOR YOU.

CoolUsername:


It was clearly instigated by Democratic party members and George Soros. The news media and the Hollywood elite helped to fan the flames. This sh!t never seemed organic to me.

It's like Marxism and communist apologia are the new religions being pushed in the west. It has seeped into western schools and is being perpetuated by the news media, the gaming community, Hollywood, and every form of entertainment.

There's almost no series that started within the last 5 years, apart from anime that doesn't want to bash us in the head about how white people are evil, or men are trash, or how Christianity (never Islam) is the worst thing ever.

jamesid29:


That's not my point. If you read my post again,you would see that the point i was making was, " they can become inseparable if people are not intentional in separating the two, as the line separating them can become blurry if you are not paying attention".

The time to warn against and curb the influence of interest groups or extremist ideas in any society is at their inceptions or when their influence has not yet been fully entrenched into the collective mindset. Once that happens,it's already too late.

Consolidation of power do not happen overnight, extremist ideas do not take hold at once. They take time and are usually a gradual process.
It's easy to dismiss the BLM organisation currently because they do not yet hold considerable influence, but the thing is they are trying to. Same goes for the extremist ideas floating around.

If there's one thing we can learn from history during this period is, whenever there's a disruption in the societal mindset or a vacuum in the society, there are always individuals ready to take advantage of it. The Nazi party and the Church during the middle ages are two extreme examples of how seemingly obscure groups of people and ideologies can slowly and gradually become very powerful and unchallengeable.

If there was ever a time to start ringing the alarm bells against interest groups and extremist ideas floating around during this racial equality climate, now is that time.
In summary: It's prudent to be very intentional about separating the BLM organisation from the black lives movement itself. Not because the BLM controls the movement now but because they are trying to.
Same goes for any extremist ideas trying to bundle itself with the racial equality conversation.

In Terry Crews case, He is speaking out mainly against any extremist ideas floating around in the racial equality conversation and not against any organisation in particular.




Below is my original post, so you can read it again in view of explanation.

CAPSLOCKED:


THE POWERS ABOVE KEEP PLAYING PRANKS WITH THE PUBLIC USING THE MEDIA. THEY'RE THE ONES CONTROLLING EVERYTHING INCLUDING RACISM, YES.
POLICE BRUTALITY EXISTS IN EVERY COUNTRY AND WHITES ALSO HAVE THEIR SHARE BUT IT'S HARDLY IN THE NEWS. IN US AND CANADA MORE WHITES ARE BULLIED EVERY YEAR BY THE POLICE THAN BLACKS (THERE ARE STATS TO PROVE THIS) BUT THE MEDIA ONLY SHOWS YOU THE SIDE THEY'RE ASKED TO SHOW.
THE LAST BLACK LIVES MATTER PROTESTS WERE ORGANIZED BY THE GOVERNMENT AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW THIS THEN I'M SORRY FOR YOU.

budaatum:


I refuse to waste my precious time on you.

OLAADEGBU:


Why should you waste your time with me? What stops us from agreeing to disagree?

CoolUsername:


Unarmed doesn't necessarily mean harmless. If in the process of arrest, the suspect gets shot while attempting to wrestle an officer's gun away from them, it is treated like shooting an unarmed suspect.

Now, I'm not saying that the police is perfect by any means, there is definitely a police brutality issue. There's a 2016 video of an unarmed man who called the police on himself because he was off his meds, the police came and sat on his back for 13 minutes while he complained that he couldn't breathe. The man eventually died, it it didn't go viral because he was white. It didn't fit the narrative so international didn't carry it and nobody cared.

The stats show the truth. The media selectively reports what they want to generate the emotions they want from you.

BeLookingIDIOT:


Was George Floyd or many such cases trying to wrestle the officers gun?
There are equally cases involving blacks that don't go "viral"
The fact remains that cases of police brutality are disproportionately against black people.
Anyways,if the outcry against police brutality causes a reform or positive change in their behaviour won't it be beneficial to all,be they black or white? Why are you generating so much fuss about it then.

budaatum:


Go on then. Let's see how long you can "agree to disagree".

BeLookingIDIOT:

Was George Floyd or many such cases trying to wrestle the officers gun?

BeLookingIDIOT:


There are equally cases involving blacks that don't go "viral"
The fact remains that cases of police brutality are disproportionately against black people.
Anyways,if the outcry against police brutality causes a reform or positive change in their behaviour won't it be beneficial to all,be they black or white? Why are you generating so much fuss about it then.

OLAADEGBU:
BLM Removes 'What We Believe' Page Which Included 'We Disrupt Western Prescribed Nuclear Family Structure'
By Editor on September 23, 2020

(Fox News) — The official website of Black Lives Matter (BLM) has dropped a page that included its controversial belief in "disrupt[ing]" the "nuclear family structure."

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budaatum:
Yawn.

https://blacklivesmatter.com/herstory/

sapientia:


Who told you black lives don't matter before?

Large movements for blacks

That's racism

Every life matter.

Blacks kill blacks daily

sapientia:


Who told you black lives don't matter before?

Large movements for blacks

That's racism

Every life matter.

Blacks kill blacks daily

Hathor5:


This is the dumbest statement I have heard in this century along with the statement 'I don't see color/gender' bla bla bla.

Yeah, every life matters but some folks think that black lives matter less. Whites don't have this problem. This is why it is must be emphasized that BLACK LIVES MATTER too.

And context matters too.