Fake degrees, almajiri and Nigeria’s
underdevelopment By Engr. Abubakar A. Fari | Jul 15, 2020 2:46 AM

The issue of almajiri is very much with us. The issue of fake degrees originating from southern Nigeria, like COVID-19 is also very much with us. The issue of underdevelopment of Nigeria as a top member of the third world with noise makers, and with the highest number of the Black race but with nothing to show in human development index, is frightening. COVID-19: 24% of Nigerians don’t have hand washing soap — NBS Hadejia communities sensitised on agribusiness investment scheme The issue of our Muslim brothers that western education has implanted inferiority complex in also needs to be understood. The fact remains that it is through Islamic religion and education, its light and ladder that Europe was transformed and brought out of darkness to light but it is being suppressed by the imperialists. Whether anyone likes it or not, modern or western education has its roots and foundations from Islamic universities, Muslim scholars, scientists and thinkers beginning over 1400 years ago. Since November 2019 and fired by Gambo Dori’s article, I have followed the trend where the atmosphere is been bombarded from columnists of Daily Trust to include Jamila and co, DT editorials in the daily and Sunday including news items carried on the paper. I have made photocopies of them. I should like this sensitive issue to be left open for public debate and that the blame game should expose also the southerner’s weakness and incompetence that have made Nigeria underdeveloped despite the bogus degrees and exposure in Europe, US etc. The profiling of the almajiri by the “I too know”, was orchestrated from especially the enclaves of the republics of “Biafra” and “Oduduwa” most claiming largely bogus degrees since 1960. Many other Nigerian Muslims, Christians and animists with Oyibo slave mentality are part of the bandwagon. Instead of development, the only agenda on the table is stealing directly and indirectly from the public treasury in frauds entrenched by bogus degree holders profiling almajiri and northerners with Hijab even if a professor. Since October 1960, despite being blessed with the resources, Nigerians have lived with the endemic or is it “pandemic” lack of water, electricity and basic infrastructure. We need real “HARD TALK” as in the BBC rather than the blame game. My wife and humble self have been to India but she twice more and she wonders that, though there is huge population and dirt in India and ghettos, yet Mumbai is a sh_t hole like Ajegunle. They have water and electricity. In India, the number of destitute, worse than almajiri, exceeds the Nigerian population. But if any blackout, it is rare in Mumbai as opposed to the case in Nigeria where even in Ikoyi, VI, Asokoro and the “flashy” areas of Ikeja, residents scandalously live on gens because of fake degrees mentality. The scandalous schemes to sustain the sale of generators and fake spare parts and endless dependence on sales of imported petrol by cabals have come to stay. These parasites are worse than the almajiri. The multibillion dollar refinery projects will never work and remain white elephant projects. When a Nigerian is sick with blood sugar or water in the heart he will suffer in the hands of Nigerian consultant/professors who will never identify the cause but will keep him on all sorts of drugs till he dies or is lucky enough to travel to India or elsewhere. If opportune to go to India within 48 hours the problem is identified and you see the hopeless case smiling. The almajiri is on his own and invariably does not control the ATMs of fake degree holders. In 1985 my wife could fill the tank of her Beetle with only N7 but now it will be N7,000 or 1000 times more. In 1988 we bought a gas filled cylinder at just N6 in Ikoyi, Lagos. Today, Nigerians pay about N4,800 per cylinder. Imagine 800 times at present value! Yet the brains of the fake degree holders, would rather profile the almajir[/b]i. One is not saying almajiri is an acceptable condition. However, India if it were to be wailing and crying and pointing at the destitute how [b]could it have solved its “mother India” problems. India, with twice or thrice the population of almajiri including the abandoned child witches in the south and the osu of Igbo caste system, is a nuclear power. India produces all the basic and high tech needs like drugs, hospital equipment, cars, trucks, earth moving equipment etc. India is an emerging economy next to China and a net exporter to Nigeria. The existence of almajiri does not stop the Igbo or Yoruba or any other Nigerian to have invented Twitter or WhatsApp. Why are the Nigerian fake degree holders only eating crumbs? The first Oyibo school was built in 1843 in Badagry, Lagos. Yet after 177 years, what is there to show to the world that such early start by the Yoruba in “western education” has been beneficial in the world development index. The Lagos-Ogun axis industries are nothing other than the screwdriver industries that lack 20% local content capacity. They are in the main conduit pipes to drain scarce FX. The catalogue of incompetences are endless. Other Nigerians will welcome the fake degree holders to create enterprises and world class global companies like Ford, Du Pont, Bill Gates, Benz, Daimler, Toyota, Honda and Chinese upstarts? Despite the profiling, it is from Kano, the centre of almajiri that we have the richest black man in the person of Dangote. Nigerians have more scammers as stated by former US JCS Colin Powell and that majority are Nigerians not almajiri; almost all the scammers are from the fake degrees southern states. The bane of our underdevelopment arises most from the fake degree holders with no competencies in creating a healthy economy and a vibrant civil service to propel Nigeria to greater heights. Rather it is “na from my office I go chop” since the days of Lugard. The “na from my office I go chop” syndrome destroyed the public institutions like the railway, airways, ECN to NEPA to PHCN, NNOC to NNPC, Post office, Ports Authority, CBN, Ajaokuta a big conduit pipe to siphon wealth by fake degree holders. It was not the almajiri. Let us sit and address those responsible for the underdevelopment of Nigeria from the list of the technocrats involved in the bureaucracy at the federal service. The southwest gained technical aids from the embassies in Lagos up to and before the capital moved out of Lagos. More than 80% beneficiaries were from and remain from the O states. How many almajiri benefitted other than the Yoruba and mid-west in the last 40 years after Nigerian independence. In the privatisation and commercialisation of 1972 with Awo as finance minister under Gowon, 80% beneficiaries were and remain Yoruba. The decisions and key benefits from job employments, contractors, skill acquisition from all the oil companies with headquarters in Lagos and the secretaries of the CEOs and all key management staff are Yoruba and ended up with Yoruba domination. In 1968, at Government College Keffi an Indian teacher was transferred from Ibadan. The practice was that WAEC papers were accompanied to the examination hall with a police guard and the sealed papers were opened in front of all. When he saw that, he said but that was not the practice in Ibadan. These facts were proven when the NYSC scheme was established. In all the southern states, our NYSC members saw the widespread fraud and were even threatened to teach the students answers to questions ab initio. So, what is the profiling of almajiri about when the fake degrees is public knowledge with the southerners. If you point these facts to them, their answer is without shame have you “caught me”. mofari@hotmail.com

Read more: https://www.dailytrust.com.ng/fake-degrees-almajiri-and-nigerias-underdevelopment.html

Lol.

What's the cut off mark for Unity schools?

Until its reversed, this write up is utter trash.

Or

Maybe if Kano and Kaduna stops deporting almajiris

What a hate filled article

What is this about? I expected an objective view but it feels so much bias.

Can you imagine as if it was the south that made northern part the enclave of Islam that oppose Western education but support begging

bukifemi1:


Fake degrees, almajiri and Nigeria’s
underdevelopment By Engr. Abubakar A. Fari | Jul 15, 2020 2:46 AM

The issue of almajiri is very much with us. The issue of fake degrees originating from southern Nigeria, like COVID-19 is also very much with us. The issue of underdevelopment of Nigeria as a top member of the third world with noise makers, and with the highest number of the Black race but with nothing to show in human development index, is frightening. COVID-19: 24% of Nigerians don’t have hand washing soap — NBS Hadejia communities sensitised on agribusiness investment scheme The issue of our Muslim brothers that western education has implanted inferiority complex in also needs to be understood. The fact remains that it is through Islamic religion and education, its light and ladder that Europe was transformed and brought out of darkness to light but it is being suppressed by the imperialists. Whether anyone likes it or not, modern or western education has its roots and foundations from Islamic universities, Muslim scholars, scientists and thinkers beginning over 1400 years ago. Since November 2019 and fired by Gambo Dori’s article, I have followed the trend where the atmosphere is been bombarded from columnists of Daily Trust to include Jamila and co, DT editorials in the daily and Sunday including news items carried on the paper. I have made photocopies of them. I should like this sensitive issue to be left open for public debate and that the blame game should expose also the southerner’s weakness and incompetence that have made Nigeria underdeveloped despite the bogus degrees and exposure in Europe, US etc. The profiling of the almajiri by the “I too know”, was orchestrated from especially the enclaves of the republics of “Biafra” and “Oduduwa” most claiming largely bogus degrees since 1960. Many other Nigerian Muslims, Christians and animists with Oyibo slave mentality are part of the bandwagon. Instead of development, the only agenda on the table is stealing directly and indirectly from the public treasury in frauds entrenched by bogus degree holders profiling almajiri and northerners with Hijab even if a professor. Since October 1960, despite being blessed with the resources, Nigerians have lived with the endemic or is it “pandemic” lack of water, electricity and basic infrastructure. We need real “HARD TALK” as in the BBC rather than the blame game. My wife and humble self have been to India but she twice more and she wonders that, though there is huge population and dirt in India and ghettos, yet Mumbai is a sh_t hole like Ajegunle. They have water and electricity. In India, the number of destitute, worse than almajiri, exceeds the Nigerian population. But if any blackout, it is rare in Mumbai as opposed to the case in Nigeria where even in Ikoyi, VI, Asokoro and the “flashy” areas of Ikeja, residents scandalously live on gens because of fake degrees mentality. The scandalous schemes to sustain the sale of generators and fake spare parts and endless dependence on sales of imported petrol by cabals have come to stay. These parasites are worse than the almajiri. The multibillion dollar refinery projects will never work and remain white elephant projects. When a Nigerian is sick with blood sugar or water in the heart he will suffer in the hands of Nigerian consultant/professors who will never identify the cause but will keep him on all sorts of drugs till he dies or is lucky enough to travel to India or elsewhere. If opportune to go to India within 48 hours the problem is identified and you see the hopeless case smiling. The almajiri is on his own and invariably does not control the ATMs of fake degree holders. In 1985 my wife could fill the tank of her Beetle with only N7 but now it will be N7,000 or 1000 times more. In 1988 we bought a gas filled cylinder at just N6 in Ikoyi, Lagos. Today, Nigerians pay about N4,800 per cylinder. Imagine 800 times at present value! Yet the brains of the fake degree holders, would rather profile the almajir[/b]i. One is not saying almajiri is an acceptable condition. However, India if it were to be wailing and crying and pointing at the destitute how [b]could it have solved its “mother India” problems. India, with twice or thrice the population of almajiri including the abandoned child witches in the south and the osu of Igbo caste system, is a nuclear power. India produces all the basic and high tech needs like drugs, hospital equipment, cars, trucks, earth moving equipment etc. India is an emerging economy next to China and a net exporter to Nigeria. The existence of almajiri does not stop the Igbo or Yoruba or any other Nigerian to have invented Twitter or WhatsApp. Why are the Nigerian fake degree holders only eating crumbs? The first Oyibo school was built in 1843 in Badagry, Lagos. Yet after 177 years, what is there to show to the world that such early start by the Yoruba in “western education” has been beneficial in the world development index. The Lagos-Ogun axis industries are nothing other than the screwdriver industries that lack 20% local content capacity. They are in the main conduit pipes to drain scarce FX. The catalogue of incompetences are endless. Other Nigerians will welcome the fake degree holders to create enterprises and world class global companies like Ford, Du Pont, Bill Gates, Benz, Daimler, Toyota, Honda and Chinese upstarts? Despite the profiling, it is from Kano, the centre of almajiri that we have the richest black man in the person of Dangote. Nigerians have more scammers as stated by former US JCS Colin Powell and that majority are Nigerians not almajiri; almost all the scammers are from the fake degrees southern states. The bane of our underdevelopment arises most from the fake degree holders with no competencies in creating a healthy economy and a vibrant civil service to propel Nigeria to greater heights. Rather it is “na from my office I go chop” since the days of Lugard. The “na from my office I go chop” syndrome destroyed the public institutions like the railway, airways, ECN to NEPA to PHCN, NNOC to NNPC, Post office, Ports Authority, CBN, Ajaokuta a big conduit pipe to siphon wealth by fake degree holders. It was not the almajiri. Let us sit and address those responsible for the underdevelopment of Nigeria from the list of the technocrats involved in the bureaucracy at the federal service. The southwest gained technical aids from the embassies in Lagos up to and before the capital moved out of Lagos. More than 80% beneficiaries were from and remain from the O states. How many almajiri benefitted other than the Yoruba and mid-west in the last 40 years after Nigerian independence. In the privatisation and commercialisation of 1972 with Awo as finance minister under Gowon, 80% beneficiaries were and remain Yoruba. The decisions and key benefits from job employments, contractors, skill acquisition from all the oil companies with headquarters in Lagos and the secretaries of the CEOs and all key management staff are Yoruba and ended up with Yoruba domination. In 1968, at Government College Keffi an Indian teacher was transferred from Ibadan. The practice was that WAEC papers were accompanied to the examination hall with a police guard and the sealed papers were opened in front of all. When he saw that, he said but that was not the practice in Ibadan. These facts were proven when the NYSC scheme was established. In all the southern states, our NYSC members saw the widespread fraud and were even threatened to teach the students answers to questions ab initio. So, what is the profiling of almajiri about when the fake degrees is public knowledge with the southerners. If you point these facts to them, their answer is without shame have you “caught me”. mofari@hotmail.com

Read more: https://www.dailytrust.com.ng/fake-degrees-almajiri-and-nigerias-underdevelopment.html

It's dangerous to educate Almajiris.
The writer is another uncle of Shekau Bokorams
Educated Parasites of the North

IDIOTIC ALMAJIRI

A superb write up.
Wish I was the one that wrote this piece.
"No matter how long the night is, day must surely break."
Truth will prevail before all & during our life time Insha Allah

This write up is full of hypocrisy and aggrandizement of self delusion. I guess the writer if from Kano. Let me call your attention to something; the North has benefited lopsidedly from the Nigerian state. The old Sokoto state is now 3states of sokoto, Zamfara and Kebbi, the old Kano state is now Jigawa Kano and Kaduna all with state governors, federal universities, house of representative members, commissioners and several federal agencies.
Independent Nigeria consisted of three autonomous regions that should have been countries today; the Western, Eastern and Northern Region. Today the Northern region, an equal entity with the West and East is having 19 states governors, several commissioners, 19*3 senators, several House of Rep members etc all feeding fat on federation account to which they contributed less than 20% , did I just write that? what was the tax return from the 19 states in 2019 to Federal Account? You see, if restructuring is the way to go, you will know the value of southern states.
You think southerners are just carrying fake certificates? You are full of ignorance and in terms of education don't even go there. The North has benefitted from the Nigerian state more than double of all the old regions. The North has led this country more and yet it complained more of underdevelopment, but where should you look to? the south? When Awo industrialised the West and Azikwe the East Sardauna tried his best at least in Kaduna and Kano but all the companies available were largely in areas that benefited from the scheme you mentioned not any fabricated lies you touted there.

You know what, you are scared, democracy is not just about numbers, its about freedom, and the change is gradually and steadily coming to politics that will put Nigeria on good path. Bro/Sis, don't hate on any ethnic group or tribe, Nigeria is open for you to play, whatever is in any state as deficiencies today, look at leaders from such states.

LOOOOL

Please they should mention the southerners with fake certificates.

All over the world, Igbos, Yorubas and Niger deltas are making waves. Quota system has killed dreams.

God help Nigeria

BlowYourMind:
Can you imagine as if it was the south that made northern part the enclave of Islam that oppose Western education but support begging

Begging is better than fraud which has become the pride of southern Nigeria. Check the news, you people are scattered around all the jails in the globe for fraud

Engr Abubakar Fari, where did you get your degree?

I know you and your wife had gone to India a few times, but India is not a role model for us.

Convoluted understanding of facts as displayed is also a part of Nigeria's problem.

Almajiris you passionately promote will never become engineers like you, and I am sure that your own son will not become almajiri.

Hypocrisy unlimited!

aljharem:
LOOOOL

Please they should mention the southerners with fake certificates.

All over the world, Igbos, Yorubas and Niger deltas are making waves. Quota system has killed dreams.

God help Nigeria

I was talking to a former classmate of mine who is currently in Zambia. One thing led to another and he told me that a lot of Nigerians reside in that country. It was unbelievable, so I asked him how our people are viewed there. He told me without softening words that Nigerians are seen as the kingpins for all sorts of crime. That we are known as drug traffickers and fraudsters.

Go to Dubai

Go to Canada

Go to USA

Go to Australia

Go to China

Go to South Africa

Go to UK

Everywhere you go, Nigerians have a terrible reputation not because of the northerners, but because of the criminals from southern Nigeria so what waves are you talking about?

Imagine countries like Lebanon disrespecting us because pf your disgraceful attitudes! Even countries like Tanzania are now denying Visa for your wave-making brothers. Someone from Congo today has a better chance of getting a Visa to UAE than your wave-making brothers, and you are saying shit. Thank God some embassies are even distinguishing the northerners and the southerners when issuing visas, because they know those that go and come back on time and those that go to get an Msc that would last for decades

In UAE, Italy and the rest, once you see an African prostitute; there is a high probability that she's Nigerian. Of the 81 Nigerians wanted by FBI, how many northerners did you find there? Lol. The last hausa man to be jailed abroad was Abdulmutallab. Can we say the same about your region, where over ten people have been arrested outside the shores of the country since the arrest of Hushpuppy?


Let's come online. Not a day passes without someone complaining about being scammed on nairaland. Check NL's business section and see things for yourself. I have never met someone that's never been approached by an idiot claiming to be a bank staff before. Check facebook, twitter and IG. Your brothers are out there approaching people with scams like binomo investment, data deals and fixed game scams

On 4chan, Fiverr, Upwork, dating sites, Draft2digital, Smashwords and soon; KDP, we are being either banned or restricted. You and I know that this is not the handwork or abokiis as you call us.

Different regions have different problems. We have herdsmen, Boko haram and bandits. I can accept it if you mock my region for these, but don't ever claim that we are ruining your reputation or dragging you back. You are the ones killing yourselves with greed.

Even if we make Vietnam a role model and follow them sincerely than we are done for good lets Forget about India that is in different league and class.

We talk big but action? nothing. This is Typical common mentality in all black all over this continent.

eagleu:
Engr Abubakar Fari, where did you get your degree?

I know you and your wife had gone to India a few times, but India is not a role model for us.

Convoluted understanding of facts as displayed is also a part of Nigeria's problem.

Almajiris you passionately promote will never become engineers like you, and I am sure that your own son will not become almajiri.

Hypocrisy unlimited!

This is the reason why I want disintegration,imagine the north bragging,i blame the useless British that joined south with the north,if not the primitive Fulani's,the southern Nigeria go have been far better than south Africa.

abduljabbar4:



I was talking to a former classmate of mine who is currently in Zambia. One thing led to another and he told me that a lot of Nigerians reside in that country. It was unbelievable, so I asked him how our people are viewed there. He told me without softening words that Nigerians are seen as the kingpins for all sorts of crime. That we are known as drug traffickers and fraudsters.

Go to Dubai

Go to Canada

Go to USA

Go to Australia

Go to China

Go to South Africa

Go to UK

Everywhere you go, Nigerians have a terrible reputation not because of the northerners, but because of the criminals from southern Nigeria so what waves are you talking about?

Imagine countries like Lebanon disrespecting us because pf your disgraceful attitudes! Even countries like Tanzania are now denying Visa for your wave-making brothers. Someone from Congo today has a better chance of getting a Visa to UAE than your wave-making brothers, and you are saying shit. Thank God some embassies are even distinguishing the northerners and the southerners when issuing visas, because they know those that go and come back on time and those that go to get an Msc that would last for decades

In UAE, Italy and the rest, once you see an African prostitute; there is a high probability that she's Nigerian. Of the 81 Nigerians wanted by FBI, how many northerners did you find there? Lol. The last hausa man to be jailed abroad was Abdulmutallab. Can we say the same about your region, where over ten people have been arrested outside the shores of the country since the arrest of Hushpuppy?


Let's come online. Not a day passes without someone complaining about being scammed on nairaland. Check NL's business section and see things for yourself. I have never met someone that's never been approached by an idiot claiming to be a bank staff before. Check facebook, twitter and IG. Your brothers are out there approaching people with scams like binomo investment, data deals and fixed game scams

On 4chan, Fiverr, Upwork, dating sites, Draft2digital, Smashwords and soon; KDP, we are being either banned or restricted. You and I know that this is not the handwork or abokiis as you call us.

Different regions have different problems. We have herdsmen, Boko haram and bandits. I can accept it if you mock my region for these, but don't ever claim that we are ruining your reputation or dragging you back. You are the ones killing yourselves with greed.

then let's separate the country south vs north and see who is better,you guys got nothing on us,if not for high unemployment rate no thanks to your leaders all this brains could have been busy with something productive.

Fantasticcc:
then let's separate the country south vs north and see who is better,you guys got nothing on us,if not for high unemployment rate no thanks to your leaders all this brains could have been busy with something productive.

Now he is talking about unemployment, when romance scammers steal millions of dollars and still continue to scam. How much did Hushpuppy steal? Enough to make crazy investments in Nigeria but he never stopped so don't tell me shit about unemployment. Your moral decay is what is bringing you down.

Separation of Nigeria is a welcome development for me. One part will be battling one another to control oil while the other will be forced to go back to farming which brings far more employment due to its labour requirements. By then, we shall see those that would be sleeping in embassies to get to the other side.

For your info, the gatemen and beggers that you see in your region are mostly Chadians and Niger nationals. We don't care about leaving the north

If not for slavery and sabotage from waste and Britain
Who is north

abduljabbar4:


Now he is talking about unemployment, when romance scammers steal millions of dollars and still continue to scam. How much did Hushpuppy steal? Enough to make crazy investments in Nigeria but he never stopped so don't tell me shit about unemployment. Your moral decay is what is bringing you down.

Separation of Nigeria is a welcome development for me. One part will be battling one another to control oil while the other will be forced to go back to farming which brings far more employment due to its labour requirements. By then, we shall see those that would be sleeping in embassies to get to the other side.

For your info, the gatemen and beggers that you see in your region are mostly Chadians and Niger nationals. We don't care about leaving the north

we all know you guys can't stay alone,we have been agitating for restructuring for ages but fear of been like chad your brothers have made you guys fight us.I am yet to meet one northerner agitating for disintegration or at the very least regional control,so we all know who the real parasites are.
And don't tell me about moral decay,abacha your brother stole more than what any south leader can think of,believe me if you guys had the brains to scam the whites you guys will do worst.
I don't know if you are a Fulani but they are the problem,Chinese had one of the worst reputation but after the great revolution and the economy started getting better most of the bad eggs started changing.

abduljabbar4:



Begging is better than fraud which has become the pride of southern Nigeria. Check the news, you people are scattered around all the jails in the globe for fraud

Northerners don't have the sense to do fraud even if they want to.

Ok

JAMO84:
Northerners don't have the sense to do fraud even if they want to.

What's technical in sending error-laden texts to random strangers and looking for a fool that would fall for it?

Are you aware that it was illiterates that introduced Yahoo to Nigeria?

Fantasticcc:
we all know you guys can't stay alone,we have been agitating for restructuring for ages but fear of been like chad your brothers have made you guys fight us.I am yet to meet one northerner agitating for disintegration or at the very least regional control,so we all know who the real parasites are.
And don't tell me about moral decay,abacha your brother stole more than what any south leader can think of,believe me if you guys had the brains to scam the whites you guys will do worst.
I don't know if you are a Fulani but they are the problem,Chinese had one of the worst reputation but after the great revolution and the economy started getting better most of the bad eggs started changing.

That's your problem. The Igbos that cry so hard for resource control don't even have any reasonable oil. Also, ALL statistics prove that with the exception of Lagos, NO STATE in Nigeria can survive without federal allocation so it's not as if it is your expertise that will be feeding you. The north did not start existing before the oil came. Our ancestors did not die due to lack of oil.

Abacha stole for himself. It is in the blood of all politicians including the bastard that recently came back from an American prison but it is a fact that the ordinary Hausa man believes in humbly earning from his hardwork. We all know the bastards that flood the pages of Hushpuppy and the rest to "beg for blessing"

There is nothing hard in sending grammatical disasters to random people and claiming to be a prince that needs some money to do Bla, Bla Bla. There is nothing technical in sending messages and telling people to fix their ATMs. There was a time I had to struggle with hunger during my undergraduate days, and I knew all the methods your southern brothers use to scam people but I didn't because unlike your people that worship money, I value my dignity. There are poor Russians, Indians and Chinese people that can easily hack into people's accounts and steal their money so don't mention anything about brains here.

You people have a good way of branding your thieving tendencies. Once a southerner mentions these words: intelligent, industrious, developers, smart, hardwork, big God, God's blessing ; Just run for your life. Drug trafficking, prostitution, Yahoo and counterfeiting is your idea of smartness so to answer your claim. Yes, we the northerners PROUDLY don't have the brains.

Ok