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'my Nigerian Great-grandfather Sold Slaves' by mymadam(m): 10:04am On Jul 19, 2020
Amid the global debate about race relations, colonialism and slavery, some of the Europeans and Americans who made their fortunes in trading human beings have seen their legacies reassessed, their statues toppled and their names removed from public buildings.

Nigerian journalist and novelist Adaobi Tricia Nwaubani writes that one of her ancestors sold slaves, but argues that he should not be judged by today's standards or values.

My great-grandfather, Nwaubani Ogogo Oriaku, was what I prefer to call a businessman, from the Igbo ethnic group of south-eastern Nigeria. He dealt in a number of goods, including tobacco and palm produce. He also sold human beings.

"He had agents who...


Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-53444752
Re: 'my Nigerian Great-grandfather Sold Slaves' by illicit(m): 10:15am On Jul 19, 2020
He is bad

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Re: 'my Nigerian Great-grandfather Sold Slaves' by Nobody: 10:19am On Jul 19, 2020
mymadam:
Amid the global debate about race relations, colonialism and slavery, some of the Europeans and Americans who made their fortunes in trading human beings have seen their legacies reassessed, their statues toppled and their names removed from public buildings.

Nigerian journalist and novelist Adaobi Tricia Nwaubani writes that one of her ancestors sold slaves, but argues that he should not be judged by today's standards or values.

My great-grandfather, Nwaubani Ogogo Oriaku, was what I prefer to call a businessman, from the Igbo ethnic group of south-eastern Nigeria. He dealt in a number of goods, including tobacco and palm produce. He also sold human beings.

"He had agents who...


Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-53444752
Even though yoruba leaders back then had every opportunity to sell their people in that era, they rather waged war against the colonialists and suppressed their powers. Madam Tinubu had the opportunity to make a great fortune in this business of evil but chose to defend her people by fighting the Europeans who thrived in slave trade. Any human being who takes pride in selling his/her fellow human beings is worse than animals.

Same yoruba agitated for independence and democracy in our land even those who said we were not ready for independence are now number one beneficiaries of it. Any day we say we are leaving this union, only God will say otherwise because we are the reason this country is still together.

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Re: 'my Nigerian Great-grandfather Sold Slaves' by hammer3: 10:22am On Jul 19, 2020
Adaobi Tricia Nwaubani
Nigerian journalist

There is nothing worst than an Igbo person that dont have sense or that is an attention seeking slave.

Does she have any evidence?


My guess is that she is addicted to sucking white blokus and will say anything to appease her white employers or exonerate them of their crimes, even if it means throwing herself and igbo people under the bus.


Ndiigbo should no longer suffer this type of people that bring disaffection to our race.


If she is a decendant of a slave dealer, she and her entire family or lineage, should be punished and face the wrath of it.

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Re: 'my Nigerian Great-grandfather Sold Slaves' by Itohanprefa: 10:32am On Jul 19, 2020
hammer3:


There is nothing worst than an Igbo person that dont have sense or that is an attention seeking slave.

Does she have any evidence?


My guess is that she is addicted to sucking white blokus and will say anything to appease her white employers or exonerate them of their crimes, even if it means throwing herself and igbo people under the bus.


Ndiigbo should no longer suffer this type of people that bring disaffection to our race.


If she is a decendant of a slave dealer, she and her entire family or lineage, should be punished and face the wrath of it.


All southern tribes sold their people to slave traders, that was the reality they faced then and they actually saw nothing wrong in it, the same white men that brought them education, Christianity where the slave traders so it wasn't really a question of morals, that was just their reality back then

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Re: 'my Nigerian Great-grandfather Sold Slaves' by Itohanprefa: 10:34am On Jul 19, 2020
fairfora:
Even though yoruba leaders back then had every opportunity to sell their people in that era, they rather waged war against the colonialists and suppressed their powers. Madam Tinubu had the opportunity to make a great fortune in this business of evil but chose to defend her people by fighting the Europeans who thrived in slave trade. Any human being who takes pride in selling his/her fellow human beings is worse than animals.

Same yoruba agitated for independence and democracy in our land even those who said we were not ready for independence are now number one beneficiaries of it. Any day we say we are leaving this union, only God will say otherwise because we are the reason this country is still together.
All the Yoruba slaves in Cuba, Brasil, Barbados and the rest how did they get there? All southerners sold slaves

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Re: 'my Nigerian Great-grandfather Sold Slaves' by hammer3: 10:36am On Jul 19, 2020
Itohanprefa:
All southern tribes sold their people to slave traders, that was the reality they faced then and they actually saw nothing wrong in it, the same white men that brought them education, Christianity where the slave traders so it wasn't really a question of morals, that was just their reality back then

Listen, the issue of slave trade greatly affected Igbo people.

It was not a case of Igbo selling Igbo?

Igbo as u know were not on the coast but hinterland.

The whites used the coastal tribe to kidnap Igbo people and in the case of Bini wage war and carry Igbo into slavery on the western front.

On the eastern front, Efik were used to kidnap Igbo people, until the practice spread into Arochukwu and some other Abia clan specifically.

Ogoni were brought from Ghana to work with white slave traders, they were joined by Ijaw.

Bonny, Nembi, Okrika and Opobo became the transit point for Igbo slaves on our coastal front.

Whilst Calabar was utilised as transit front on the East.

Warri was transit point on west.
Re: 'my Nigerian Great-grandfather Sold Slaves' by IJOBA2: 10:40am On Jul 19, 2020
Itohanprefa:
All the Yoruba slaves in Cuba, Brasil, Barbados and the rest how did they get there? All southerners sold slaves
YOU ARE CALLING FOR WAR

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Re: 'my Nigerian Great-grandfather Sold Slaves' by Nobody: 10:47am On Jul 19, 2020
Itohanprefa:
All the Yoruba slaves in Cuba, Brasil, Barbados and the rest how did they get there? All southerners sold slaves
Yes, but they weren't sold by our forebears. Mention a single yoruba who dealt in this trade if you know one. Back then, anyone sighted by Portuguese along the coastal line would be abucted and put into ship. It was a forced move against their wish.
Re: 'my Nigerian Great-grandfather Sold Slaves' by Itohanprefa: 10:48am On Jul 19, 2020
hammer3:


Listen, the issue of slave trade greatly affected Igbo people.

It was not a case of Igbo selling Igbo?

Igbo as u know were not on the coast but hinterland.

The whites used the coastal tribe to kidnap Igbo people and in the case of Bini wage war and carry Igbo into slavery on the western front.

On the eastern from, Efik were used to kidnap Igbo people, until the practice spread into Arochukwu and some other Abia clan specifically.

This is not entirely true, being Igbo doesn't stop anybody from acknowledging that Igbos themselves actively participated in the trade especially the arochukwu people, they raided the entirety of the Igbo hinterland capturing slaves to take to the coast, evidence of which still exists in various Aro outposts in Igbo hinterland like arondizuogu in imo state, Aro ndikelionwu and the rest, Arochukwu was a major slave trading outpost am surprised you don't know that

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Re: 'my Nigerian Great-grandfather Sold Slaves' by hammer3: 10:52am On Jul 19, 2020
Itohanprefa:
This is not entirely true, being Igbo doesn't stop anybody from acknowledging that Igbos themselves actively participated in the trade especially the arochukwu people, they raided the entirety of the Igbo hinterland capturing slaves to take to the coast, evidence of which still exists in various Aro outposts in Igbo hinterland like arondizuogu in imo state, Aro ndikelionwu and the rest, Arochukwu was a major slave trading outpost am surprised you don't know that

Today u have Eze Eri, going in search of Igbo sold into slavery.

How can Igbo claim to be a slave selling people, wen our King was never involved.

As a matter of fact, he refused to meet or see the white men.

That was why the white matched on Nri and disgraced Eze Nri.

Igbo were a victim of the transatlantic slave trade.

We were sold on three front by other tribes and naturally some of our people aided them, from Arochukwu specifically, all Igbos cannot accept involvement based on Arochukwu whom we know are related to the Efik.

Re: 'my Nigerian Great-grandfather Sold Slaves' by YorubaKinging: 10:55am On Jul 19, 2020
Igbos has betrayed their Yoruba brothers over the centuries

This animosity is still present till this days

Lagos is known as the slave coasts

Roughly 80 percent of the slaves are from Judah

So many of our tribes of Israel have been scattered

Yet they will all come back to thier former estates

The process is on
Re: 'my Nigerian Great-grandfather Sold Slaves' by Itohanprefa: 11:03am On Jul 19, 2020
hammer3:


Today u have Eze Eri, going in search of Igbo sold into slavery.

How can Igbo claim to be a slave selling people, wen our King was never involved.

As a matter of fact, he refused to meet or see the white men.

That was why they match on Nri and disgraced Eze Nri.

Igbo were a victim of the transatlantic slave trade.

We were sold on three front by other tribes and naturally some of our peoplel aided them, from Arochukwu specifically, all Igbos cannot accept involvement based on Aro whome we know are related to the Efik.

The Nri hegemony(my town is an NRI town) and all towns under its direct influence where totally against slavery, once any slave sets foot on NRI soil he or she is considered free, this didn't stop Arochukwu slavers and their Abam and ohafia mercenaries from raiding and buying slave All across other parts and clans of igboland though

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Re: 'my Nigerian Great-grandfather Sold Slaves' by Itohanprefa: 11:08am On Jul 19, 2020
hammer3:


Today u have Eze Eri, going in search of Igbo sold into slavery.

How can Igbo claim to be a slave selling people, wen our King was never involved.

As a matter of fact, he refused to meet or see the white men.

That was why the white matched on Nri and disgraced Eze Nri.

Igbo were a victim of the transatlantic slave trade.

We were sold on three front by other tribes and naturally some of our people aided them, from Arochukwu specifically, all Igbos cannot accept involvement based on Arochukwu whom we know are related to the Efik.

What the Eze Eri is doing is a process of reparations, some of our forefathers might have been instrumental in the slave trade but the bulk of the blame should still go to the whites they created the environment for the slave trade to thrive, you will be shocked at the number of African American that is of Igbo heritage both in the US and Latin America
Re: 'my Nigerian Great-grandfather Sold Slaves' by hammer3: 11:08am On Jul 19, 2020
Itohanprefa:
The Nri hegemony(my town is an NRI town) and all towns under its direct influence where totally against slavery, once any slave sets foot on NRI soil he or she is considered free, this didn't stop Arochukwu slavers and their Abam and ohafia mercenaries from raiding and buying slave All across other parts and clans of igboland though


In my first post, I did acknowledge Arochukwu and some Abia clans, but does that qualify the entire Igbo tribe as culpable?

U have to consider that Igbo were their victims.

U further have to acknowledge that the idea came via Efik and spread to Kalabari which is still Calabar extension circling the igbo hinterland.

It was no accident, they were specifically in search of Igbos from the hinterland as slave.
Re: 'my Nigerian Great-grandfather Sold Slaves' by Itohanprefa: 11:16am On Jul 19, 2020
hammer3:



In my first post, I did acknowledge Arochukwu and some Abia clans, but does that qualify the entire Igbo tribe as culpable?

U have to consider that Igbo were their victims.

U further have to acknowledge that the idea came via Efik and spread to Kalabari which is still Calabar extension circling the igbo hinterland.

It was no accident, they were specifically in search of Igbos from the hinterland as slave.
The Efiks and kalabari and the rest where more of the middle men between Europeans and Arochukwu slave merchants,owing to the fact that they were coastal dwellers, I do agree with you that Igbos were victim's because the white man created the environment for slave trade and exploited Africans greatly
Re: 'my Nigerian Great-grandfather Sold Slaves' by hammer3: 11:17am On Jul 19, 2020
Itohanprefa:
What the Eze Eri is doing is a process of reparations, some of our forefathers might have been instrumental in the slave trade but the bulk of the blame should still go to the whites they created the environment for the slave trade to thrive, you will be shocked at the number of African American that is of Igbo heritage both in the US and Latin America

Demand dictates supply, basic microeconomics.

Increase in demand, leads to decrease in supply and increase in price.


The whites created slavery in Africa, via demand.

Alot of people that discuss slavery willfully forget that it was not civilian whites that Africans were faced with, but the military of western European nations.


Africans had no regular army or defence.

Coastal Africa was invaded and settled upon by the whites who subverted their society and gave them leaders.


These people were utilised as instrument or attack dog to capture other africa tribes in the hinterland.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1sZ2CSAxyI

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Re: 'my Nigerian Great-grandfather Sold Slaves' by johnmartus(m): 11:18am On Jul 19, 2020
Igbo are the first tribe in Africa that will sold their people to white merchant.

If you think I'm lying go read Nigeria ground history.

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Re: 'my Nigerian Great-grandfather Sold Slaves' by hammer3: 11:22am On Jul 19, 2020
Itohanprefa:
The Efiks and kalabari and the rest where more of the middle men between Europeans and Arochukwu slave merchants,owing to the fact that they were coastal dwellers, I do agree with you that Igbos were victim's because the white man created the environment for slave trade and exploited Africans greatly


They were not.

Efik are regarded as Slave Owners and Igbos regarded as Slaves in the field of Africa Studies.

That is why u hear Asari Dokubo say they are the Master and Igbo the slave.

I have actually studied this as a course, so i know wat am talking about.

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Re: 'my Nigerian Great-grandfather Sold Slaves' by Itohanprefa: 11:23am On Jul 19, 2020
hammer3:


Demand dictates supply, basic microeconomics.

Increase in demand, leads to decrease in supply and increase in price.


The whites created slavery in Africa, via demand.

Alot of people that discuss slavery willfully forget that it was not civilian whites that Africans were faced with but the military of western European nations.


Africans had no regular army or defence.

Coastal Africa was invaded and settled upon by the whites who subverted their society and gave them leaders.


These people were utilised as instrument or attack dog to capture other africa tribes in the hinterland.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1sZ2CSAxyI
I agree, they created the demand that pushed supply, and due to the fact that southern part of Nigeria was frequently engaged in inter ethnic conflicts at the time, those that deal more closely with the Europeans often dominated because of guns and other instruments they supplied their slave suppliers
Re: 'my Nigerian Great-grandfather Sold Slaves' by hammer3: 11:27am On Jul 19, 2020
Itohanprefa:
I agree, they created the demand that pushed supply, and due to the fact that southern part of Nigeria was frequently engaged in inter ethnic conflicts at the time, those that deal more closely with the Europeans often dominated because of guns and other instruments they supplied their slave suppliers


Exactly, they start conflict or raid communities with guns, kill their able bodied men that resist and match everybody to the coast.

That is why u had bini kingdom going all the way north to make war with Igala.


It was a search for slave.

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Re: 'my Nigerian Great-grandfather Sold Slaves' by Shiver99: 11:28am On Jul 19, 2020
hammer3:



In my first post, I did acknowledge Arochukwu and some Abia clans, but does that qualify the entire Igbo tribe as culpable?

U have to consider that Igbo were their victims.

U further have to acknowledge that the idea came via Efik and spread to Kalabari which is still Calabar extension circling the igbo hinterland.

It was no accident, they were specifically in search of Igbos from the hinterland as slave.

Nri is Igbo, Igbo isn't Nri.

Slavery did spread from the minority tribes, but whether or not they were specifically targeting igbo citizens, they had no hope or resources to simply storm into Igbo towns and capture people.

Itoanprefa is right, minorities were largely middlemen.

Groups such as the aro, etc,etc took advantage if the divisions in Igboland and made slave transportation to the Europeans more streamlined and accessible.
Re: 'my Nigerian Great-grandfather Sold Slaves' by hammer3: 11:31am On Jul 19, 2020
Shiver99:


Nor is Igbo, Igbo isn't Ned.

Slavery did spread from the minority tribes, but whether or not they were specifically targeting igbo citizens, they had no hope or resources to simply storm into Igbo does and capture people.

Itoanprefa is right, minorities were largely middlemen.

Groups such as the aro, etc,etc took advantage if the divisions in Igboland and made slave transportation to the Europeans more streamlined and accessible.


Middleman in selling another tribe.

See how sweet it sounds in your mouth.

It is that same mouth u will use to shout igbo domination.

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Re: 'my Nigerian Great-grandfather Sold Slaves' by Itohanprefa: 11:32am On Jul 19, 2020
hammer3:



They were not.

Efik are regarded as Slave Owners and Igbos regarded as Slaves in the field of Africa Studies.

That is why u hear Asari Dokubo say they are the Master and Igbo the slave.

I have actually studied this as a course, so i know wat am talking about.
The situation back then wasn't really that simple, saying that Efik and others where slave holders and Igbos where slaves is an oversimplification, it was a free for all environment there not much in tribal affiliations back then(not like now) it was survival of the fittest and strongest, don't forget there were efik and ibibio slaves too, not to mention Yoruba, Bini and other southern tribes, these tribes also had slave holders among them too, people kidnapped there tribesmen to be sold to slavers, kindreds sold their own people to inherit land

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Re: 'my Nigerian Great-grandfather Sold Slaves' by ofeco: 11:33am On Jul 19, 2020
fairfora:
Even though yoruba leaders back then had every opportunity to sell their people in that era, they rather waged war against the colonialists and suppressed their powers. Madam Tinubu had the opportunity to make a great fortune in this business of evil but chose to defend her people by fighting the Europeans who thrived in slave trade. Any human being who takes pride in selling his/her fellow human beings is worse than animals.

Same yoruba agitated for independence and democracy in our land even those who said we were not ready for independence are now number one beneficiaries of it. Any day we say we are leaving this union, only God will say otherwise because we are the reason this country is still together.

Who sold Samuel Ajayi crowther since yoruba's did not sell their own but protected them?

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Re: 'my Nigerian Great-grandfather Sold Slaves' by hammer3: 11:35am On Jul 19, 2020
Itohanprefa:
The situation back then wasn't really that simple, saying that Efik and others where slave holders and Igbos where slaves is an oversimplification, it was a free for all environment there not much in tribal affiliations back then(not like now) it was survival of the fittest and strongest, don't forget there were efik and ibibio slaves too, not to mention Yoruba, Bini and other southern tribes, these tribes also had slave holders among them too, people kidnapped there tribesmen to be sold to slavers, kindreds sold their own people to inherit land

I am not the one saying it, the academics in Europe say so.

The Efik and Ijaw say so too.

We have to be clear on that.
Re: 'my Nigerian Great-grandfather Sold Slaves' by Itohanprefa: 11:37am On Jul 19, 2020
hammer3:



Exactly, they start conflict or raid communities with guns, kill their able bodied men that resist and match everybody to the coast.

That is why u had bini kingdom going all the way north to make war with Igala.


It was a search for slave.
it was really a bad time to be weak then, every dey sell everybody, if you are weak then sorry
Re: 'my Nigerian Great-grandfather Sold Slaves' by Itohanprefa: 11:39am On Jul 19, 2020
ofeco:

Who sold Samuel Ajayi crowther since yoruba's did not sell their own but protected them?
I didn't want to reply that guy in other not to tribalise the whole thing, Yoruba people were selling themselves too, if you are weak or don't have an immediate family to stand with you, off to America
Re: 'my Nigerian Great-grandfather Sold Slaves' by pquaver(m): 11:41am On Jul 19, 2020
hammer3:


Listen, the issue of slave trade greatly affected Igbo people.

It was not a case of Igbo selling Igbo?

Igbo as u know were not on the coast but hinterland.

The whites used the coastal tribe to kidnap Igbo people and in the case of Bini wage war and carry Igbo into slavery on the western front.

On the eastern front, Efik were used to kidnap Igbo people, until the practice spread into Arochukwu and some other Abia clan specifically.

Ogoni were brought from Ghana to work with white slave traders, they were joined by Ijaw.

Bonny, Nembi, Okrika and Opobo became the transit point for Igbo slaves on our coastal front.

Whilst Calabar was utilised as transit front on the East.

Warri was transit point on west.

Oga stop this lies joor.. The sold their people.. It was not kidnap. Go and read of Omenuko and also Jaja of Opobo.. It happened..
Re: 'my Nigerian Great-grandfather Sold Slaves' by Shiver99: 11:42am On Jul 19, 2020
hammer3:
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Middleman in selling another tribe.

See how sweet it sounds in your mouth.

It is that same mouth u will use to shout igbo domination.

What exactly are you on about?

Since the dawn of early human history, pows (prisoners of war) were a significant source for getting human labour.

During the slave trade era, wars and conflict were increasingly common and becoming a slave was a very real threat for most people.

Groups like the aro, knowing that Europeans were in need for human labour, saw a business opportunity in this trade
They didn't create the slave trade, they simply created efficient trade networks where instead of slaves being sold repeatedly or circulated around the Nigerian or west african area, they would directly sold to Europeans for greater profit.

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Re: 'my Nigerian Great-grandfather Sold Slaves' by ZorGBUooeh: 11:43am On Jul 19, 2020
Lols

Its her type pastors will give ancestral curse prophesy

Atrocities of the fadas fadas.
Re: 'my Nigerian Great-grandfather Sold Slaves' by Oksman(m): 11:47am On Jul 19, 2020
Itohanprefa:
All the Yoruba slaves in Cuba, Brasil, Barbados and the rest how did they get there? All southerners sold slaves


Don't mind that hypocrite.

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