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Who Loses When A Religious Or Church-going Sinner Becomes An Atheist? by BackllGodNaija: 9:13am On Jul 26, 2020
Who Loses When A Church-going Sinner Becomes An Atheist?

I've noticed that most people here who claim to have left Christianity to become atheists, were never saved in the first place but just church-going sinners.

So yes, they may know the church language, observed some of their practices, been church workers and regularly attended church activities, paid their tithes, prayed and fasted sometimes. Some may have even been ordained leaders in the church, however at the same they were walking in the counsel of the ungodly, standing in the way of sinners, sitting in the sit of the scornful. In other words, they honored God with their mouths and lips, but their hearts were far from Him just as it was said of the Pharisees in the days of Jesus.

So it's just like one of such Pharisees coming out to say that he no longer believes in God or in His existence, or that he was dumping religion despite never being saved but a religious sinner all the while and a sure candidate for hell fire, which is more like someone leaving a hot pot to enter into a hot kettle. It's still the same fire, and the movement is only done in the head and not real.

However the reaction that usually greeted the declaration of such church-going sinners that they've become atheist is one of fanfare as though any change had occurred in reality, and as if it makes any genuine difference as one who was once saved backsliding and become a sinner.

But despite that there is rejoicing and possible lamentations on Earth because of such developments, in heaven it would be business as usual, because the person's name was never in book of life anyway, therefore it wouldn't be a case of a soul which had been won already becoming lost or going astray which would be a big deal.

Even in hell, where Satan who desires to win souls for his kingdom more than anything else, the reaction would be the same as that of heaven, since the soul's name had been in the book of death all the while, so it wouldn't make any difference. And I can imagine the devil even asking the keepers of the book of death, "did any new name enter into the book?" because of the rejoicing on Earth as though he'd won a soul. But he'd be told that the person's name had always been in the book and never left.

Hence he'd ask, "so what's all this fuss on Earth about as though I had won someone new?". Then he'd mock those of his rejoicing, saying, "don't mind those fools, that's why I'd keep using their brains to be drinking hell pepper soup"

So even the devil who they belong to would not be impressed with their rejoicing, because he can only do that when he wins a soul, and the souls of such church-going sinners who become atheists are not considered souls he'd won because he always had them in the bag anyway.

Therefore except it's a saved soul whose name was written in the book of life that becomes lost, or a soul whose name was once not written there but inside the book of death, which becomes saved and enters into the book of life, the rejoicing on Earth is just in vain, and a movement made only in the head but not in reality.

So it's not about claiming to want to leave religion or become an atheist, when you were never saved in the first place, but just a religious or church-going sinner. If you truly want to make a movement on Earth that moves heaven or hell, you have to become saved from being a sinner, otherwise no one really wins or loses in your case.

God bless Nigeria.
Re: Who Loses When A Religious Or Church-going Sinner Becomes An Atheist? by psucc(m): 9:15am On Jul 26, 2020
it's a double loss for the same person.
Re: Who Loses When A Religious Or Church-going Sinner Becomes An Atheist? by HappyPagan: 10:06am On Jul 26, 2020
BackllGodNaija:
Who Loses When A Church-going Sinner Becomes An Atheist?

I've noticed that most people here who claim to have left Christianity to become atheists, were never saved in the first place but just church-going sinners.
How do you know this? Did you know them when they were Christians?

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Re: Who Loses When A Religious Or Church-going Sinner Becomes An Atheist? by BackllGodNaija: 1:38pm On Jul 26, 2020
psucc:
it's a double loss for the same person.
How do you mean? Please explain.
Re: Who Loses When A Religious Or Church-going Sinner Becomes An Atheist? by Primesky(m): 1:59pm On Jul 26, 2020
It's a terrible loss for the atheist.
Re: Who Loses When A Religious Or Church-going Sinner Becomes An Atheist? by Kobojunkie: 6:06pm On Jul 26, 2020
Primesky:
It's a terrible loss for the atheist.
Actually, I see it as a gain for that person because by disengaging the mind from the lies that these churches are built atop of, one is better able to ask the real important questions and even more likely to be reached by God Himself as opposed to being under the influence of the image of God(idol) that is paraded in the world-churches.
Re: Who Loses When A Religious Or Church-going Sinner Becomes An Atheist? by Kobojunkie: 6:09pm On Jul 26, 2020
psucc:
it's a double loss for the same person.
It isn't a loss for the person.

He or she is simply moving away from a lie that presents itself in place of God's truth. An atheist is no worse than the so-called Christians, or the MOGs who attend the many churches yet have nothing to do with God Himself. They all don't know God. But at least an atheists is one who is honest about it to self.
Re: Who Loses When A Religious Or Church-going Sinner Becomes An Atheist? by Sheunma: 7:26pm On Jul 26, 2020
BackllGodNaija:
Who Loses When A Church-going Sinner Becomes An Atheist?

I've noticed that most people here who claim to have left Christianity to become atheists, were never saved in the first place but just church-going sinners.

So yes, they may know the church language, observed some of their practices, been church workers and regularly attended church activities, paid their tithes, prayed and fasted sometimes. Some may have even been ordained leaders in the church, however at the same they were walking in the counsel of the ungodly, standing in the way of sinners, sitting in the sit of the scornful. In other words, they honored God with their mouths and lips, but their hearts were far from Him just as it was said of the Pharisees in the days of Jesus.

So it's just like one of such Pharisees coming out to say that he no longer believes in God or in His existence, or that he was dumping religion despite never being saved but a religious sinner all the while and a sure candidate for hell fire, which is more like someone leaving a hot pot to enter into a hot kettle. It's still the same fire, and the movement is only done in the head and not real.

However the reaction that usually greeted the declaration of such church-going sinners that they've become atheist is one of fanfare as though any change had occurred in reality, and as if it makes any genuine difference as one who was once saved backsliding and become a sinner.

But despite that there is rejoicing and possible lamentations on Earth because of such developments, in heaven it would be business as usual, because the person's name was never in book of life anyway, therefore it wouldn't be a case of a soul which had been won already becoming lost or going astray which would be a big deal.

Even in hell, where Satan who desires to win souls for his kingdom more than anything else, the reaction would be the same as that of heaven, since the soul's name had been in the book of death all the while, so it wouldn't make any difference. And I can imagine the devil even asking the keepers of the book of death, "did any new name enter into the book?" because of the rejoicing on Earth as though he'd won a soul. But he'd be told that the person's name had always been in the book and never left.

Hence he'd ask, "so what's all this fuss on Earth about as though I had won someone new?". Then he'd mock those of his rejoicing, saying, "don't mind those fools, that's why I'd keep using their brains to be drinking hell pepper soup"

So even the devil who they belong to would not be impressed with their rejoicing, because he can only do that when he wins a soul, and the souls of such church-going sinners who become atheists are not considered souls he'd won because he always had them in the bag anyway.

Therefore except it's a saved soul whose name was written in the book of life that becomes lost, or a soul whose name was once not written there but inside the book of death, which becomes saved and enters into the book of life, the rejoicing on Earth is just in vain, and a movement made only in the head but not in reality.

So it's not about claiming to want to leave religion or become an atheist, when you were never saved in the first place, but just a religious or church-going sinner. If you truly want to make a movement on Earth that moves heaven or hell, you have to become saved from being a sinner, otherwise no one really wins or loses in your case.

God bless Nigeria.
Who losses or wins when a saved Christian becomes a Muslim?
Re: Who Loses When A Religious Or Church-going Sinner Becomes An Atheist? by BackllGodNaija: 5:44pm On Jul 27, 2020
HappyPagan:

How do you know this? Did you know them when they were Christians?
I don't need to know them because it's a well-known fact that most of those in the church today are church-going sinners. I was one myself so I very well know what I'm talking about. Moreover some atheists and even aspiring ones here have confirmed this truth. The former church folks among them were mostly church-going sinners before they became atheists, even though may be a few exceptions.
Re: Who Loses When A Religious Or Church-going Sinner Becomes An Atheist? by HappyPagan: 5:46pm On Jul 27, 2020
BackllGodNaija:
I don't need to know them because it's a well-known fact
No conflict there. How do you Church people say it.... It is well.

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Re: Who Loses When A Religious Or Church-going Sinner Becomes An Atheist? by Primesky(m): 7:31pm On Jul 27, 2020
Kobojunkie:
Actually, I see it as a gain for that person because by disengaging the mind from the lies that these churches are built atop of, one is better able to ask the real important questions and even more likely to be reached by God Himself as opposed to being under the influence of the image of God(idol) that is paraded in the world-churches.

There's a way that seems right to a man, but the end thereof is death!.

A drowning man can not detate how he should be saved to the savior.

Repent, accept Christ, not religion, and be save.

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Re: Who Loses When A Religious Or Church-going Sinner Becomes An Atheist? by Kobojunkie: 7:51pm On Jul 27, 2020
The very foundation of the world-churches was not built on a foundation that is not the teaching of Jesus Christ, the New Covenant. So everyone associated with it in any way, so-called MOGs of every title that exists need to abandon all they think they know of God(become like children) in order to learn about and receive that which Jesus Christ is.

There are no men/women of God in the Church that is Jesus Christ. There are only Children of God and Jesus Christ is the original image which we are to emulate in all manner.
Re: Who Loses When A Religious Or Church-going Sinner Becomes An Atheist? by BackllGodNaija: 10:37am On Jul 28, 2020
Sheunma:
Who losses or wins when a saved Christian becomes a Muslim?

If the person becomes unsaved, heaven loses.
Re: Who Loses When A Religious Or Church-going Sinner Becomes An Atheist? by BackllGodNaija: 9:53pm On Jul 28, 2020
Primesky:
It's a terrible loss for the atheist.
Okay.
Re: Who Loses When A Religious Or Church-going Sinner Becomes An Atheist? by BackllGodNaija: 7:39am On Jul 29, 2020
Who loses?
Re: Who Loses When A Religious Or Church-going Sinner Becomes An Atheist? by BackllGodNaija: 9:39am On Jul 30, 2020

Luke 13:2
And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilaeans were sinners above all the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things?
I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
Re: Who Loses When A Religious Or Church-going Sinner Becomes An Atheist? by jesusjnreloaded(m): 9:37am On Aug 11, 2020
Who loses?
Re: Who Loses When A Religious Or Church-going Sinner Becomes An Atheist? by Heathen777(m): 12:08pm On Aug 11, 2020
BackllGodNaija:
Who loses?

The paster looses of course. How will they make money without indoctrinated masses.
Re: Who Loses When A Religious Or Church-going Sinner Becomes An Atheist? by jesusjnr2020(m): 1:11pm On Sep 27, 2020
Different vessel, the same fire.
Re: Who Loses When A Religious Or Church-going Sinner Becomes An Atheist? by Kobojunkie: 10:28pm On Oct 02, 2020
Primesky:
There's a way that seems right to a man, but the end thereof is death!.
A drowning man can not detate how he should be saved to the savior.
Repent, accept Christ, not religion, and be save.
I am sorry, I don't understand the gobble-de-gook you posted above there. What has any of what you posted to do with what I stated earlier?

As someone already stated, the pastor who sees the person as a meal ticket is the one who loses in the whole. God does not lose, and neither does the man in question since he will likely get to perish along with the many billions before him and the many billions of people to come after. That is much better than ending up in hell for all of eternity.
Re: Who Loses When A Religious Or Church-going Sinner Becomes An Atheist? by StrikeBack(m): 10:34pm On Oct 02, 2020
Church account

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