ClintonNzedimma:
I am a cules by blood but Bartomeu is a Hijo de Puta.
Barcelona’s problem run deeper than what happened yesterday.

We need early elections. Laporta or Victor Font should come and save us from this idiota de pathologico.

Yesterday Bayern broke our soul. Every goal scored equaled one teardrop from my eyes.

We will rise again. Mes Que Un Club

Hola hermano.
Buenos dias
¿como estas?

FamousMonk:

Hola hermano.
Buenos dias
¿como estas?

Estoy bien

Sanchez01:
The humiliation of Barcelona at the hands of Bayern prior to the match last night was imminent as there had been signs all through the just-ended La Liga (LL) campaign. What the world didn't know was how bad the humiliation would be.

And while it seems like the perfect 'cruise' to blame Messi for disappearing in the game and even compare him to Ronaldo in those kinds of moments, Messi is not in any way responsible for the result. Rather, the club's president's philosophy is responsible and if anyone were to leave, it should be him. Below are my 5 reasons:

1. A Dying La Masia

La Masia means "The Farm House", in Spanish and it is the dubbed name for the once-famed Barcelona youth academy. The Farm House where raw talents were handpicked into the Barcelona first team produced the likes of Mikel Arteta, Luis Garcia Sanz, Cesc Fabregas, Thiago Motta, Gerard Pique, Sergio Busquets, Carles Puyol, Pep Guardiola, Andres Iniesta, Xavi Hernandez, and Lionel Messi himself.

The La Masia, at some point, made one of the top 3 best football academies in the world, falling behind Santos and Ajax youth system. While Madrid, through Florentino Perez pursued the "Galacticos" (meaning 'superstars'; a philosophy that only expensive world-class footballers will only be signed to Real Madrid) era, Barcelona youth system excelled and held the world spellbound, season after season, Real Madrid's first "Galacticos" project failed and Perez was fired. Some of the world's biggest names emerged through Barcelona's youth rank, playing a compact football style known in the academy known as the tiki-taka. Johan Cruyff, as a coach would only go ahead to adopt the style, making him one of Barcelona's most successful managers.

About 18 years after Messi progressed through the youth rank, Barcelona and Real Madrid have gone in opposite directions. While Madrid now look towards developing players from its youth rank, Barcelona has been neck-deep in signing talented superstars who are either oblivious to the club's style of play or unnecessarily surplus to requirement in the team. Ibrahimovic, Henry, Dembele, Griezmann, Vidal, Philippe Coutinho, Frenkie de Jong, the list is endless.

With an aging and declining first team, only a few promising players have managed to get noticed in the team while Madrid keep looking inward and churning out more footballers from its youth rank. The problem? Barcelona's president believes big names are the answer.

2. Aging Messi

An aging Messi isn't the problem and he isn't responsible for this. It is nature's call which must be answered. The problem here is the total reliance and dependence on one of the world's finest footballers who is being treated like aging is a sin. A club with a foresight will know better that what brought about dominance at some point isn't the Messi factor but a fluid midfield which the likes of Iniesta, Xavi and Busquet provided. Sadly, since their departure, Barcelona has invested more in defenders and forwards, leaving the midfield to God.

Meanwhile, Real Madrid, Barcelona's arch-rival have found it convenient to sit out maestros such as Kroos and Modric conveniently in games. Barcelona is one of the world's biggest clubs reputable for horrible signings.

3. The Backline Factor

Although Shakira's boyfriend has hinted he'll be the first to leave should the board decides to ax certain players, the stunt is all but a psychological attempt. Pique is worn out, old, and out of ideas. Already, he is incapable of stopping quick 'feety' footballers compared to his sworn subtle rival, Sergio Ramos. Those who were fixated on the match against Bayern Munich would have seen how Alba never stopped panting, mostly in the second half. Although the tradition with old age and defense is that you get better as you age. This can be seen in Ramos who is undoubtedly the world's finest defender even though the heart of his man can be desperately wicked.

The four backline of the team is worn and torn, even with the introduction of new blood who are mostly MIA due to injury. Barcelona needs to look inward and focus on replacing Pique, mostly. There are old but amazing defensive midfielders who can play at the back that have been hinted of exits in certain clubs (whispers P*S*G).

4. The Fear of Messi

The fear of Messi is probably what led to this disaster in the first place, from not liking a particular coach, to the fear of leaving and must be pleased mindset. The president and the club have been pawns in the hands of Messi for too long and they must wrestle themselves from his grip.

Messi is the only player in the team who will hit back at any executive who dare blames the team or criticize their lackluster performances on the pitch. Messi has been known to challenge the club's hierarchy not on the field, not among the players but on Instagram when one of the top dogs blame the team for something. The resulting effect is mostly accompanied by a sack, reshuffled positions, and more importantly, an increase in his wage. When Messi took to blasting the sporting director, Eric Abidal in February, many sports houses guessed there was something at play. Of course, it was political and Messi knew it. Getting to win the presidential election at FCB means having Messi as your best friend. What many players would take sticks for, Messi would do conveniently while the corporate guys fall over themselves to either retract their statements, apologize or instantly increase Messi's paycheck.

As a player, you might not necessarily need to be talented. If Messi likes you and wishes for you to remain at Barcelona, it will remain so except you wish to go on your accord.

This power is dangerous. Anyways, Eric Abidal is set to be sacked after 'defending' Setien. Could it be that he is about to be axed for criticizing the team in February

5. An Aging Team

Madrid has stood on this spot Barcelona is standing now and understand what will eventually become of them when their first team retire and fall out like a domino. While this is hinged on the failure of the club's executive in focusing on the Farm House, the after effect will be devastating and will paint a similar picture of Barcelona's LL final matchday that saw Osasuna beat them. Barcelona themselves have been in this position before, particularly after Puyol, Xavi and Iniesta left.

Unfortunately for the club, the after effect will be felt, and for a long time should Messi exit the team. It is however not too late to start focusing on bringing in talented youngsters. Right now, Madrid is reveling in the glory of its talented youths right now that some of them (notably Kubo, Hakimi, and Odegaard) have all been loaned out while the others jostle for starting places. As a matter of fact, Zidane confused the world after the restart by changing his first 11 per game in order to unburden them. Barcelona might not have the understanding to replicate this right now but the idea of a legendary footballer who is now at the "Messi" (pun intended) of the team and a laughing stock to the world is unfair and mismanaged.

messi fans will come for your head.

Barcelona has been on a steady decline for the past 3years but because they've been winning la liga, nobody noticed. Their present state is a reflection of bad leadership. The president is unfit to lead a team like Barcelona. He hired coaches with little or no knowledge of the Barcelona tradition. under his watch, The famous la Masia was abandoned. Aside signing the wrong coaches, he also signed the wrong players. op, Messi does not dictate who should be signed or sold. He has his preference just like you. He made it clear last season that he wanted Neymar but instead of signing Neymar, the board brought in Greizmann who is half the player Neymar is. with Neymar he knows what they can achieve and that will lift the burden a little bit from him. They have done it together in the past. what Abidal did was wrong. As a staff of the club, he shouldn't have said that in public and that's why Messi openly told him to mention the players. Barcelona is not even the only team that players have ganged up to get their coach sacked. it happened in Chelsea under Mourinho and Scolari and even in Madrid when Ramos, pepe, Casillas got Mourinho sacked too. stop sounding like Messi is too influential. under Valverde, Roma and Liverpool knocked Barcelona out of UCL in similar fashion yet Valverde retained his job. under normal circumstance, he should have been sacked after that abysmal performance from a team of Barcelona's status. Even Zidane that won 3UCL for Madrid will not be given such grace after the Roma exit.

Lemme first pick on your points as i am not a barca fan
1.la masia is hugely overrated as it is like every other academy in the world i.e for every xavi and iniesta you get a marc valiente or issac cuenca so the president can't be blamed for the players not reaching their potential
On the messi points,a strong board will have had words with him and sorted things out instead this board(barca is not a one man show like madrid or other clubs) let him run riot which was part of the reason pep left and tata martino became barca boss
Ramos is not much better than pique infact pique's concentration is his downfall when compared to ramos
They both struggle against quick players hence the reason ramos moved from rb to cb
Finally people are reading too much into this freak result
Results like this happen all the time in football
England beat germany 5-1 in 2001 yet Germany reached the wc final
Germany beat brazil 7-1 yet brazil won the last copa America
It's football not FIFA

I see nobody fault.
nature always has ways of doing things.
nothing last,nothing win forever,failure is part of nature.
what happen to barca can happen to any team even though they have the best striker or defender.
learn to accept failure and move on.

Sanchez01:
The humiliation of Barcelona at the hands of Bayern prior to the match last night was imminent as there had been signs all through the just-ended La Liga (LL) campaign. What the world didn't know was how bad the humiliation would be.

And while it seems like the perfect 'cruise' to blame Messi for disappearing in the game and even compare him to Ronaldo in those kinds of moments, Messi is not in any way responsible for the result. Rather, the club's president's philosophy is responsible and if anyone were to leave, it should be him. Below are my 5 reasons:

1. A Dying La Masia

La Masia means "The Farm House", in Spanish and it is the dubbed name for the once-famed Barcelona youth academy. The Farm House where raw talents were handpicked into the Barcelona first team produced the likes of Mikel Arteta, Luis Garcia Sanz, Cesc Fabregas, Thiago Motta, Gerard Pique, Sergio Busquets, Carles Puyol, Pep Guardiola, Andres Iniesta, Xavi Hernandez, and Lionel Messi himself.

The La Masia, at some point, made one of the top 3 best football academies in the world, falling behind Santos and Ajax youth system. While Madrid, through Florentino Perez pursued the "Galacticos" (meaning 'superstars'; a philosophy that only expensive world-class footballers will only be signed to Real Madrid) era, Barcelona youth system excelled and held the world spellbound, season after season, Real Madrid's first "Galacticos" project failed and Perez was fired. Some of the world's biggest names emerged through Barcelona's youth rank, playing a compact football style known in the academy known as the tiki-taka. Johan Cruyff, as a coach would only go ahead to adopt the style, making him one of Barcelona's most successful managers.

About 18 years after Messi progressed through the youth rank, Barcelona and Real Madrid have gone in opposite directions. While Madrid now look towards developing players from its youth rank, Barcelona has been neck-deep in signing talented superstars who are either oblivious to the club's style of play or unnecessarily surplus to requirement in the team. Ibrahimovic, Henry, Dembele, Griezmann, Vidal, Philippe Coutinho, Frenkie de Jong, the list is endless.

With an aging and declining first team, only a few promising players have managed to get noticed in the team while Madrid keep looking inward and churning out more footballers from its youth rank. The problem? Barcelona's president believes big names are the answer.

2. Aging Messi

An aging Messi isn't the problem and he isn't responsible for this. It is nature's call which must be answered. The problem here is the total reliance and dependence on one of the world's finest footballers who is being treated like aging is a sin. A club with a foresight will know better that what brought about dominance at some point isn't the Messi factor but a fluid midfield which the likes of Iniesta, Xavi and Busquet provided. Sadly, since their departure, Barcelona has invested more in defenders and forwards, leaving the midfield to God.

Meanwhile, Real Madrid, Barcelona's arch-rival have found it convenient to sit out maestros such as Kroos and Modric conveniently in games. Barcelona is one of the world's biggest clubs reputable for horrible signings.

3. The Backline Factor

Although Shakira's boyfriend has hinted he'll be the first to leave should the board decides to ax certain players, the stunt is all but a psychological attempt. Pique is worn out, old, and out of ideas. Already, he is incapable of stopping quick 'feety' footballers compared to his sworn subtle rival, Sergio Ramos. Those who were fixated on the match against Bayern Munich would have seen how Alba never stopped panting, mostly in the second half. Although the tradition with old age and defense is that you get better as you age. This can be seen in Ramos who is undoubtedly the world's finest defender even though the heart of his man can be desperately wicked.

The four backline of the team is worn and torn, even with the introduction of new blood who are mostly MIA due to injury. Barcelona needs to look inward and focus on replacing Pique, mostly. There are old but amazing defensive midfielders who can play at the back that have been hinted of exits in certain clubs (whispers P*S*G).

4. The Fear of Messi

The fear of Messi is probably what led to this disaster in the first place, from not liking a particular coach, to the fear of leaving and must be pleased mindset. The president and the club have been pawns in the hands of Messi for too long and they must wrestle themselves from his grip.

Messi is the only player in the team who will hit back at any executive who dare blames the team or criticize their lackluster performances on the pitch. Messi has been known to challenge the club's hierarchy not on the field, not among the players but on Instagram when one of the top dogs blame the team for something. The resulting effect is mostly accompanied by a sack, reshuffled positions, and more importantly, an increase in his wage. When Messi took to blasting the sporting director, Eric Abidal in February, many sports houses guessed there was something at play. Of course, it was political and Messi knew it. Getting to win the presidential election at FCB means having Messi as your best friend. What many players would take sticks for, Messi would do conveniently while the corporate guys fall over themselves to either retract their statements, apologize or instantly increase Messi's paycheck.

As a player, you might not necessarily need to be talented. If Messi likes you and wishes for you to remain at Barcelona, it will remain so except you wish to go on your accord.

This power is dangerous. Anyways, Eric Abidal is set to be sacked after 'defending' Setien. Could it be that he is about to be axed for criticizing the team in February

5. An Aging Team

Madrid has stood on this spot Barcelona is standing now and understand what will eventually become of them when their first team retire and fall out like a domino. While this is hinged on the failure of the club's executive in focusing on the Farm House, the after effect will be devastating and will paint a similar picture of Barcelona's LL final matchday that saw Osasuna beat them. Barcelona themselves have been in this position before, particularly after Puyol, Xavi and Iniesta left.

Unfortunately for the club, the after effect will be felt, and for a long time should Messi exit the team. It is however not too late to start focusing on bringing in talented youngsters. Right now, Madrid is reveling in the glory of its talented youths right now that some of them (notably Kubo, Hakimi, and Odegaard) have all been loaned out while the others jostle for starting places. As a matter of fact, Zidane confused the world after the restart by changing his first 11 per game in order to unburden them. Barcelona might not have the understanding to replicate this right now but the idea of a legendary footballer who is now at the "Messi" (pun intended) of the team and a laughing stock to the world is unfair and mismanaged.

For most, you are right but messi is also part of the failure. When you are too comfortable in your comfort zone is when you get that kind of bayern-barca results. Wish he saw all these you posted, wisdom would have told him to move, and if any reason, probably come back even more refreshed.

He made Barca too depended on him and he himself was too depended on barca and that's when Rinaldo is far greater than him. What drives Rinaldo to work so hard is even when age is not his side is the will to be effective anywhere and everywhere.

Sanchez01:
The humiliation of Barcelona at the hands of Bayern prior to the match last night was imminent as there had been signs all through the just-ended La Liga (LL) campaign. What the world didn't know was how bad the humiliation would be.

And while it seems like the perfect 'cruise' to blame Messi for disappearing in the game and even compare him to Ronaldo in those kinds of moments, Messi is not in any way responsible for the result. Rather, the club's president's philosophy is responsible and if anyone were to leave, it should be him. Below are my 5 reasons:

1. A Dying La Masia

La Masia means "The Farm House", in Spanish and it is the dubbed name for the once-famed Barcelona youth academy. The Farm House where raw talents were handpicked into the Barcelona first team produced the likes of Mikel Arteta, Luis Garcia Sanz, Cesc Fabregas, Thiago Motta, Gerard Pique, Sergio Busquets, Carles Puyol, Pep Guardiola, Andres Iniesta, Xavi Hernandez, and Lionel Messi himself.

The La Masia, at some point, made one of the top 3 best football academies in the world, falling behind Santos and Ajax youth system. While Madrid, through Florentino Perez pursued the "Galacticos" (meaning 'superstars'; a philosophy that only expensive world-class footballers will only be signed to Real Madrid) era, Barcelona youth system excelled and held the world spellbound, season after season, Real Madrid's first "Galacticos" project failed and Perez was fired. Some of the world's biggest names emerged through Barcelona's youth rank, playing a compact football style known in the academy known as the tiki-taka. Johan Cruyff, as a coach would only go ahead to adopt the style, making him one of Barcelona's most successful managers.

About 18 years after Messi progressed through the youth rank, Barcelona and Real Madrid have gone in opposite directions. While Madrid now look towards developing players from its youth rank, Barcelona has been neck-deep in signing talented superstars who are either oblivious to the club's style of play or unnecessarily surplus to requirement in the team. Ibrahimovic, Henry, Dembele, Griezmann, Vidal, Philippe Coutinho, Frenkie de Jong, the list is endless.

With an aging and declining first team, only a few promising players have managed to get noticed in the team while Madrid keep looking inward and churning out more footballers from its youth rank. The problem? Barcelona's president believes big names are the answer.

2. Aging Messi

An aging Messi isn't the problem and he isn't responsible for this. It is nature's call which must be answered. The problem here is the total reliance and dependence on one of the world's finest footballers who is being treated like aging is a sin. A club with a foresight will know better that what brought about dominance at some point isn't the Messi factor but a fluid midfield which the likes of Iniesta, Xavi and Busquet provided. Sadly, since their departure, Barcelona has invested more in defenders and forwards, leaving the midfield to God.

Meanwhile, Real Madrid, Barcelona's arch-rival have found it convenient to sit out maestros such as Kroos and Modric conveniently in games. Barcelona is one of the world's biggest clubs reputable for horrible signings.

3. The Backline Factor

Although Shakira's boyfriend has hinted he'll be the first to leave should the board decides to ax certain players, the stunt is all but a psychological attempt. Pique is worn out, old, and out of ideas. Already, he is incapable of stopping quick 'feety' footballers compared to his sworn subtle rival, Sergio Ramos. Those who were fixated on the match against Bayern Munich would have seen how Alba never stopped panting, mostly in the second half. Although the tradition with old age and defense is that you get better as you age. This can be seen in Ramos who is undoubtedly the world's finest defender even though the heart of his man can be desperately wicked.

The four backline of the team is worn and torn, even with the introduction of new blood who are mostly MIA due to injury. Barcelona needs to look inward and focus on replacing Pique, mostly. There are old but amazing defensive midfielders who can play at the back that have been hinted of exits in certain clubs (whispers P*S*G).

4. The Fear of Messi

The fear of Messi is probably what led to this disaster in the first place, from not liking a particular coach, to the fear of leaving and must be pleased mindset. The president and the club have been pawns in the hands of Messi for too long and they must wrestle themselves from his grip.

Messi is the only player in the team who will hit back at any executive who dare blames the team or criticize their lackluster performances on the pitch. Messi has been known to challenge the club's hierarchy not on the field, not among the players but on Instagram when one of the top dogs blame the team for something. The resulting effect is mostly accompanied by a sack, reshuffled positions, and more importantly, an increase in his wage. When Messi took to blasting the sporting director, Eric Abidal in February, many sports houses guessed there was something at play. Of course, it was political and Messi knew it. Getting to win the presidential election at FCB means having Messi as your best friend. What many players would take sticks for, Messi would do conveniently while the corporate guys fall over themselves to either retract their statements, apologize or instantly increase Messi's paycheck.

As a player, you might not necessarily need to be talented. If Messi likes you and wishes for you to remain at Barcelona, it will remain so except you wish to go on your accord.

This power is dangerous. Anyways, Eric Abidal is set to be sacked after 'defending' Setien. Could it be that he is about to be axed for criticizing the team in February

5. An Aging Team

Madrid has stood on this spot Barcelona is standing now and understand what will eventually become of them when their first team retire and fall out like a domino. While this is hinged on the failure of the club's executive in focusing on the Farm House, the after effect will be devastating and will paint a similar picture of Barcelona's LL final matchday that saw Osasuna beat them. Barcelona themselves have been in this position before, particularly after Puyol, Xavi and Iniesta left.

Unfortunately for the club, the after effect will be felt, and for a long time should Messi exit the team. It is however not too late to start focusing on bringing in talented youngsters. Right now, Madrid is reveling in the glory of its talented youths right now that some of them (notably Kubo, Hakimi, and Odegaard) have all been loaned out while the others jostle for starting places. As a matter of fact, Zidane confused the world after the restart by changing his first 11 per game in order to unburden them. Barcelona might not have the understanding to replicate this right now but the idea of a legendary footballer who is now at the "Messi" (pun intended) of the team and a laughing stock to the world is unfair and mismanaged.

d board no get sense, shey na Messi dey tell dem to buy guys wey no fit their system, 4 how long do u want a single person (no matter how good ) to keep scoring, assisting, playmaking, dribble every season, u surely need fitting talent around him, even CR7 once complained that Madrid couldn't win games because others were not on his level. Messi still has a lot to offer, he has about 50 goals contribution this season just that once he's marked out, others run out of ideas (cut the snakes head, the body dies. )

For those guys saying Messi is Barca's problem:
let's look at this stats, for every other major club in Europe, please tell me one that one player is the leads in goal scoring, dribbling, chances created, assits etc. Messi is not a leader?? what happened at Anfield, after the half time team talk he gave, they players came out and did what they like. This season alone how many times has he called on the Board and players to step up?. If na you, you no go tire. Telling a bunch of grown men to step up and then 4mins in they have already conceded a goal.
Who in their right mind buys Boateng, Paulinho, Murillo, Andre Gomes, Yerry Mina, Firpo?? for a team like Barcelona. Suarez has been crying for a replacement like for 2 seasons now but what did the board do??. Last season, errbody was analyzing and showing how Griezman doesn't fit into the Barca system, what did the President do?? Yes, you're right, he did just that. Sack Coach, he said no, midway thru the season you decided to do that. how is it Messi's fault??

ezechi24:


Since Enrique left.

Enrique was largely an average coach. He had MSN, that was it. Show me what significant lasting impact he had on the team other than deliver a treble through heavy reliance on the famous deadly forwards.

mastermaestro:


Enrique was largely an average coach. He had MSN, that was it. Show me what significant lasting impact he had on the team other than deliver a treble through heavy reliance on the famous deadly forwards.

Enrique managed the team extremely well ...he had guts and he knew how to change his tactics when ever a game is getting tough ....you think its easy for your team to win in trophies?...Enrique's Barcelona won trophies in the three seasons he managed the team...his tactics also helped the MSN please don't forget that.

mastermaestro:


Enrique was largely an average coach. He had MSN, that was it. Show me what significant lasting impact he had on the team other than deliver a treble through heavy reliance on the famous deadly forwards.

���

You think Enrique just put them on the pitch and voila?
Do you know how difficult it is managing the ego of 3 big players even the great cruyff said it's impossible to make them work

In the tactical aspect, Opting to buy Rakitic over kroos was one of the main reason it worked. Rakitic helped out in defense covering for Messi non existent defending while also having a presence on attack. Reinventing of Alves role due to Rakitic allowing to bomb forward while also not worrying too much about leaving us open at the back. Iniesta role change to a conversative controller and many more I don't even know about.

You think valverde or setien would have won us the treble with MSN? Don't fucking kid yourself

Rakitic declining and leaving who covered the entire right wing on his own when Messi moves central is why we failed in the third season nothing else