PtBlank:
Since you have already stated JavaScript, stick with Node, its JavaScript for the backend. When you're comfortable with that and have built some projects, you can decide to learn Python later

TheManOfTheYear:
I really don't buy this idea of learning Node because I'll love to continue in the same language.. My decision would be based on which is more functional

melodyogonna:
Python is definitely more versatile and has better industry leading libraries, but if you're looking for functionality perhaps you should look at Go or Java.

tensazangetsu20:
Bros I am also in the same boat. I started learning nodejs. Dropped PHP for it since node is JavaScript and is want to spend more time mastering JavaScript but most job vacancies from big companies. Companies that can big salaries and sponsor work visas then to require c# as a language and angular as a framework. Na small startups wey no get money dey use node

Donpre:

No clear path at all.
There's more than 5 backend languages, each (Python and php at least) has more than 5 backend frameworks. That's about 25 paths to follow
It's confusing making a pick.

There's also the React/Vue/Angular question that also doesn't have a clear cut answer.
I just tire guy.

Please do well to share more of your findings as you apply for jobs, it seems shiny popular technology doesn't translate to good paying jobs

tensazangetsu20:

Exactly bros. From my experience this is what I have noticed.

Big enterprises. Angular as a front end framework with either java or c# on the backend.

Medium sized companies. React as a frontend framework with php/laravel on the backend

Startups. React/Vue and nodejs or PHP but mostly nodejs.

KPMG was hiring for programmers. It's all angular and c# stack. Libra motors is also hiring. C#. Abroad too is the same thing. Many big companies with the means to sponsor visas and pay big salaries use either java or c# on the backend and angular on the frontend.

Taofeekdboy:

The reason being that most big companies you see has been in place very long and most of them started with either Java or C#,. Net core technogies, so it is difficult to move away from that. My company is using. Net core stack and so on like that but new startups are now looking away from that... Giving rooms for other stacks.

tensazangetsu20:

But why do they tend to use angular as a frontend framework over other frameworks. In order to get a job that comes with visa sponsorship would you advise someone to learn c# or java.

tensazangetsu20:
Bros I am also in the same boat. I started learning nodejs. Dropped PHP for it since node is JavaScript and is want to spend more time mastering JavaScript but most job vacancies from big companies. Companies that can big salaries and sponsor work visas then to require c# as a language and angular as a framework. Na small startups wey no get money dey use node

ninety5:
the first thing you should know is that these two things you are comparing are very different. Django js a framework for making web apps while nodejs is a runtime time environment which is used to run server side functionalities.

Though I am still relatively new to programming and have not laid my hands on either of the two, people often suggest Django (if you will move to backend) over other frameworks because it makes you understand good structural development practises.

I may be wrong anyway.

tensazangetsu20:

Exactly bros. From my experience this is what I have noticed.

Big enterprises. Angular as a front end framework with either java or c# on the backend.

Medium sized companies. React as a frontend framework with php/laravel on the backend

Startups. React/Vue and nodejs or PHP but mostly nodejs.

KPMG was hiring for programmers. It's all angular and c# stack. Libra motors is also hiring. C#. Abroad too is the same thing. Many big companies with the means to sponsor visas and pay big salaries use either java or c# on the backend and angular on the frontend.

Enceladus:
##Personal opinions here

Go with Django. Why?

Every Good JavaScript developer knows it's a crap language that grew out of hand, so by default node and express automatic inherits that weakness. (Object prototypes, 33 == [33] will give you true can you guess why?, NaN === NaN will give you false e.t.c) so many tricky gotchas.

Also JavaScript is a single threaded programming language natively, so it doesn't yield itself easily to multithreading.

Python which django is based on the other hand is a very matured language with tons of library to make your backend development easy. Powerful ORM Present, Mature Authentication Present, Mature Template system Present e.t.c

Django enjoys all goodies from the Python ecosystem natively as Python is a powerful programming language older than most high level language and consequently has a lot of ready available powerful library to integrate with your website like machine learning, scraping content from other website, integration with powerful mid level languages like c and c++ natively for heavy computation like building a web based game or anything that involves large calculation.

Django too inherits some weakness from Python like single threading your app naturally but you can easily bypass that by creating more threads and process.

Here in Nigeria PHP and Java EE is king. So if you are concerned about ease of employment, php and java are the way to go.

Godspeed

tensazangetsu20:

Exactly bros. From my experience this is what I have noticed.

Big enterprises. Angular as a front end framework with either java or c# on the backend.

Medium sized companies. React as a frontend framework with php/laravel on the backend

Startups. React/Vue and nodejs or PHP but mostly nodejs.

KPMG was hiring for programmers. It's all angular and c# stack. Libra motors is also hiring. C#. Abroad too is the same thing. Many big companies with the means to sponsor visas and pay big salaries use either java or c# on the backend and angular on the frontend.

devbits:


Let me speak from both a job hunter and a programmer's experience...

In Nigeria there are more PHP jobs than Python. But me I will still stick to python and be wooing Golang.
About Frontend Framework... I cant deceive you m also in this field
companies both abroad and Naija Here prefer React, although some are transitioning to Vue because of simplicity but react still has the highest percentage.. as for angular those that are still using it do so because its part of their tech and transitioning may cost some cash and technical issues.

Punchline
If you are in Nigeria and want fast Job no matter the language you write.... know php
and a vue react

devbits:
If you are learning node from backend, dont stick to only expressjs.... try your hands on adonis and nestjs
...
Truly from my survey on twitter on and dev forums I discovered it is only in Nigeria thats dandandan dan PHP, outside you easily see your stack role

for example... India, Thailand , united kingdom always looking for c sharp and python dev
in Nigeria most companies looking for python dev are in Abuja....

Donpre:

@bolded, why are you still with python... and for Golang, I only hear foreigners talk about it.

tensazangetsu20:


Guy C sharp get plenty work for Naija o. I started job hunting two weeks ago and I have seen more C# jobs than php jobs. C# and Angular. Those two go hand in hand. Made me start regretting learning React. Anyway the learning never ends but if your goal is to get into a big company, it is better to learn C# and angular. Few people know it too sef.

Taofeekdboy:

Like I said, C# and angular are used in those companies because it is what they have been using since and it is very hard to transition from those stacks because of their big size and data.
Quora as big as they are, they are still using JQuery as their frontend development. But you see angular, I will tell you that React job openings will beat angular anyday anytime, even Vue is starting to gain more popularity than angular. Here, every frontend development job must include React. Please don't regret learning any stack because it will still be useful somewhere around. I will stick to python and React anyday, anytime.

Taofeekdboy:
well, based on my experience with job search, most of this big companies at times use more than one backend language, Facebook and the likes. Angular is popular among them also because angular is a very large Javascript framework and it is pre-built with its libraries unlike React that depends on third party libraries. Angular comes with typescript which some developers fancy about. The truth of the matter is that, if you are so good with angular, other frameworks will be shit to you. But learning curve in angular is thrice React learning curve I.e, it is hard to learn.
As to what to learn as the backend, learn one bro and be good with it, it does not matter if the job is not much but it will give you the leverage when there is job openings for the language. I'm into Python(Django), Java, as the backend but not viable in Nigeria job market because of PHP but I can't leave it for PHP as it's time is also coming and foreign companies are using it as well.

devbits:


I wish i can transition to other language and stack... but olohun i have gone with python and django... but if i will later transistion it iwl c sharp.. i know am very well but havent used it web development before

BoleAndFish:
From what you're saying, you'll advice a newbie (that's looking at job opportunities) to go for c# rather than python django?

ColeDrain what do you have to say here?

ColeDrain:


Hey man.
Programming languages, web frameworks or engines are just tools, all have their strengths and weaknesses, there's no 'perfect guy'.

Most people use express.js with node.js for backend specific purpose.

I have used Django and it's pretty okay so let me talk about it, it's scalable, and you can build web applications very fast with it. The fun thing about Django is that it is a python web framework, and python arguably is one of the easiest programming languages to pick, the easiness doesn't mean python isn't powerful, it is very powerful, I think[b] Instagram[/b] and YouTube use python.

I find JS as a convoluted language, it's good, it's fast, but the complexities it brings some times, sure you can get over them.

So I would recommend Django for a beginner.
If you already have knowledge of JS, you can use express.js with node.js.
If it's about getting a job: PHP, java are more popular in Nigeria market (I think) stats in Nigeria are very scarce.

Don't only be seeking job in Nigeria sha, look outside too sha.

P:S Some may mention JS is faster than python, but with the kind of servers and clients we have speed doesn't matter so much.