Anaerobi:
The Bible is Christian Holy Book that every Christian have to live his/her life according to it teachings.
But I noticed that this particular verse of the Bible Mathew 17:21 which is:
But this kind does not go out, except by praying and fasting.
Is omitted in some version of the Bible. versions like Good News Bible, NIV, some King James version, Gideons Bible and others.
If you read the story in full Mathew 17:14-24 which was about a young boy who has seizures and was suffering greatly. Jesus disciples couldn't heal him but when Jesus came, a man approached him and knelt before him, narrating the boy predicament and Jesus command the boy should be brought to him and he held him.
His disciples tried to find out why they couldn't do that, despite performing other miracles.
But Jesus talked about their little Faith, he went further and quoted in that Verse 21 of Mathew 17.
But this kind does not go out, except by praying and fasting.
Why is that place omitted in some version of Bible?

Anaerobi:
The Bible is Christian Holy Book that every Christian have to live his/her life according to it teachings.
But I noticed that this particular verse of the Bible Mathew 17:21 which is:
But this kind does not go out, except by praying and fasting.
Is omitted in some version of the Bible. versions like Good News Bible, NIV, some King James version, Gideons Bible and others.
If you read the story in full Mathew 17:14-24 which was about a young boy who has seizures and was suffering greatly. Jesus disciples couldn't heal him but when Jesus came, a man approached him and knelt before him, narrating the boy predicament and Jesus command the boy should be brought to him and he held him.
His disciples tried to find out why they couldn't do that, despite performing other miracles.
But Jesus talked about their little Faith, he went further and quoted in that Verse 21 of Mathew 17.
But this kind does not go out, except by praying and fasting.
Why is that place omitted in some version of Bible?

RightChannel:

Which of the KJV?

RightChannel:

Which of the KJV?

Anaerobi:

I said some... KJV

Anaerobi:

and what about other versions?

Anaerobi:
The Bible is Christian Holy Book that every Christian have to live his/her life according to it teachings.
But I noticed that this particular verse of the Bible Mathew 17:21 which is:
But this kind does not go out, except by praying and fasting.
Is omitted in some version of the Bible. versions like Good News Bible, NIV, some King James version, Gideons Bible and others.
If you read the story in full Mathew 17:14-24 which was about a young boy who has seizures and was suffering greatly. Jesus disciples couldn't heal him but when Jesus came, a man approached him and knelt before him, narrating the boy predicament and Jesus command the boy should be brought to him and he held him.
His disciples tried to find out why they couldn't do that, despite performing other miracles.
But Jesus talked about their little Faith, he went further and quoted in that Verse 21 of Mathew 17.
But this kind does not go out, except by praying and fasting.
Why is that place omitted in some version of Bible?

RightChannel:


Majority Christians make use of KJV

Maximus69:


It was added by some self-righteos traditionalists who believe in ritual fastings!

Jesus never taught his followers how to fast, but most religions in the world believe in ritual fasting so after many of these people embraced Christianity they added what we know today as Matthew 17: 21 when copying their own Bible (as people usually copy it by hand back then!

It was later that researchers discovered it wasn't part of Jesus' statement.

But you can decipher such falsehood without any problem, just concentrate on Jesus' teachings, try to figure out when he taught his followers how to fast, note his response to told those who came to challenge his followers about fasting {Matthew 9:14-17} then think of what he said in verse 20 before 21 and ask yourself these questions
© Jesus sent his followers out to go preaching, teaching and curing all manner of sicknesses {Matthew 10:3-8} he didn't ask them to fast before going, so Why saying what is in verse 17? Who was he referring to, his faithful followers or the crowd? Was he now blaming them for what he himself said it's not necessary? Did he fasted in their presence for them to know how he does so?

All these will help you to grasp that verse 21 was fabricated and not coherent with the rest of that story in any way! John 8:32

Anaerobi:

Your point is more convincing....
Let me not drag it, but you have a kind of cleared me....
But d Bible stated that is disciples asked him that in private.

Maximus69:


YES! They asked him in private why they couldn't oust the demon!

Of course some demons fear the name of Jesus so ordinarily hearing the mention of that name will scare them away, but some are tougher that's why strong FAITH is required to drive them away!

Remember when Jesus was traveling on the sea with his followers, the sea didn't just got agitated all by itself it's the work of powerful wicked spirits, they wanted to jeopardize Jesus' effort by killing the few confidants he was able to gather throughout his lifetime on earth. So when Jesus woke up he rebuked the sea! Mark 4:35-41

So strong faith NOT FASTING is required to drive away such stubborn demons!

Maximus69:


YES! They asked him in private why they couldn't oust the demon!

Of course some demons fear the name of Jesus so ordinarily hearing the mention of that name will scare them away, but some are tougher that's why strong FAITH is required to drive them away!

Remember when Jesus was traveling on the sea with his followers, the sea didn't just got agitated all by itself it's the work of powerful wicked spirits, they wanted to jeopardize Jesus' effort by killing the few confidants he was able to gather throughout his lifetime on earth. So when Jesus woke up he rebuked the sea! Mark 4:35-41

So strong faith NOT FASTING is required to drive away such stubborn demons!

Maximus69:


It was added by some self-righteos traditionalists who believe in ritual fastings!

Jesus never taught his followers how to fast, but most religions in the world believe in ritual fasting so after many of these people embraced Christianity they added what we know today as Matthew 17: 21 when copying their own Bible (as people usually copy it by hand back then!

It was later that researchers discovered it wasn't part of Jesus' statement.

But you can decipher such falsehood without any problem, just concentrate on Jesus' teachings, try to figure out when he taught his followers how to fast, note his response to told those who came to challenge his followers about fasting {Matthew 9:14-17} then think of what he said in verse 20 before 21 and ask yourself these questions
© Jesus sent his followers out to go preaching, teaching and curing all manner of sicknesses {Matthew 10:3-8} he didn't ask them to fast before going, so Why saying what is in verse 17? Who was he referring to, his faithful followers or the crowd? Was he now blaming them for what he himself said it's not necessary? Did he fasted in their presence for them to know how he does so?

All these will help you to grasp that verse 21 was fabricated and not coherent with the rest of that story in any way! John 8:32

Anaerobi:

don't expect an up coming Christian to read KJV. those English are most times deep to understand.

Anaerobi:

Thank you for the clarification.

Anaerobi:

so does that also means that some verses in the Bible were just also added?

Anaerobi:
The Bible is Christian Holy Book that every Christian have to live his/her life according to it teachings.
But I noticed that this particular verse of the Bible Mathew 17:21 which is:
But this kind does not go out, except by praying and fasting.
Is omitted in some version of the Bible. versions like Good News Bible, NIV, some King James version, Gideons Bible and others.
If you read the story in full Mathew 17:14-24 which was about a young boy who has seizures and was suffering greatly. Jesus disciples couldn't heal him but when Jesus came, a man approached him and knelt before him, narrating the boy predicament and Jesus command the boy should be brought to him and he held him.
His disciples tried to find out why they couldn't do that, despite performing other miracles.
But Jesus talked about their little Faith, he went further and quoted in that Verse 21 of Mathew 17.
But this kind does not go out, except by praying and fasting.
Why is that place omitted in some version of Bible?

Anaerobi:

don't expect an up coming Christian to read KJV. those English are most times deep to understand.

It was added by some self-righteos traditionalists who believe in ritual fastings!

Jesus never taught his followers how to fast, but most religions in the world believe in ritual fasting so after many of these people embraced Christianity they added what we know today as Matthew 17: 21 when copying their own Bible (as people usually copy it by hand back then!

It was later that researchers discovered it wasn't part of Jesus' statement.

But you can decipher such falsehood without any problem, just concentrate on Jesus' teachings, try to figure out when he taught his followers how to fast, note his response to told those who came to challenge his followers about fasting {Matthew 9:14-17} then think of what he said in verse 20 before 21 and ask yourself these questions
© Jesus sent his followers out to go preaching, teaching and curing all manner of sicknesses {Matthew 10:3-8} he didn't ask them to fast before going, so Why saying what is in verse 17? Who was he referring to, his faithful followers or the crowd? Was he now blaming them for what he himself said it's not necessary? Did he fasted in their presence for them to know how he does so?

All these will help you to grasp that verse 21 was fabricated and not coherent with the rest of that story in any way! John 8:32

Anaerobi:
The Bible is Christian Holy Book that every Christian have to live his/her life according to it teachings.
But I noticed that this particular verse of the Bible Mathew 17:21 which is:
But this kind does not go out, except by praying and fasting.
Is omitted in some version of the Bible. versions like Good News Bible, NIV, some King James version, Gideons Bible and others.
If you read the story in full Mathew 17:14-24 which was about a young boy who has seizures and was suffering greatly. Jesus disciples couldn't heal him but when Jesus came, a man approached him and knelt before him, narrating the boy predicament and Jesus command the boy should be brought to him and he held him.
His disciples tried to find out why they couldn't do that, despite performing other miracles.
But Jesus talked about their little Faith, he went further and quoted in that Verse 21 of Mathew 17.
But this kind does not go out, except by praying and fasting.
Why is that place omitted in some version of Bible?

Some Greek copies add verse 21: “But that kind of spirit comes out only with prayer and fasting.”

20 Jesus answered, “You were not able to make the demon go out, because your faith is too small. Believe me when I tell you, if your faith is only as big as a mustard seed you can say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it will move. You will be able to do anything.” - Matthew 17 vs 20

cornelboy:

@MaxInDHouse
When I saw this from the beginning, I knew it was your post.

MaxInDHouse:

YES! That's my former account which i deleted due to disturbances from social media beggars!

MightySparrow:
Nonsense. Theorists that have never cast out any demon are typing rubbish here.

WAILER in sifia pains.

Matthew 17:21 was inserted into the textus receptus manuscript of the 1500s.
Thus, this verse is NOT in older manuscripts of the holy scriptures.

Janosky:


WAILER in sifia pains.

Matthew 17:21 was inserted into the textus receptus manuscript of the 1500s.
Thus, this verse is NOT in older manuscripts of the holy scriptures.

MightySparrow:


I don't normally want to your posts because of your stupidity.
However, I see many distortion's in your NWT of the Bible your GB uses to teach you faithlessness.


Okay, agreed the verse was inserted for whatever reason.

Jehovah Witnesses are the only ones now with faith doing the work of Jehovah.
The preceding verse says,



And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.
Matthew 17:20

MUMU WAILER

@ Matthew 17:20, did Jesus Christ teach you that demon is mountain?
Oga, according to Jesus Christ go & "Remove Mount Patti in Lokoja to "yonder place" & Stop DECEIVING YOURSELF.

MightySparrow:


How many of you MaximumSide,, Janosky and the rest brethren in delusion are casting out any demons?

You will say gifts of the Holy Spirit have perished with the disciples ( you are no longer His disciples though) that is why you cannot cast out demons.

Is faith outdated also?

Does it mean your faith is not up to mustard seed's size?
Are there no more demons?

And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.
1 Corinthians 13:13

Unprofitable discreet servants.
This delusion make you people to seek charmers for demonic solutions.
Hypocrisy. Delusion. Faithlessness.
The blind wanting to lead the seeing.

Sifia pains of WAILING Sparrow.

How many rings do your gods of men have on their wrists & for what purpose?
Dem be abracadabrarians

Which demons you saw in 1 Corinthians13:13?
Shouting and noise pollution disturbing the peace of your neighbors is your demons casting & audition.
Deluded WAILER

Janosky:


MUMU WAILER

@ Matthew 17:20, did Jesus Christ teach you that demon is mountain?
Oga, according to Jesus Christ go & "Remove Mount Patti in Lokoja to "yonder place" & Stop DECEIVING YOURSELF.



Sifia pains of WAILING Sparrow.

How many rings do your gods of men have on their wrists & for what purpose?
Dem be abracadabrarians

Which demons you saw in 1 Corinthians13:13?
Shouting and noise pollution disturbing the peace of your neighbors is your demons casting & audition.
Deluded WAILER

MightySparrow:


Your stupidity is loud.

MightySparrow:
Nonsense. Theorists that have never cast out any demon are typing rubbish here

Dtruthspeaker:


There own is to tear-tear the bible. Clearly demons on the move!