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Re: That We May Have Sex With Them! by Nobody: 9:44am On Sep 20, 2020
criuze:
God created us that way, remember what the Bible said in Genesis , 'and He saw that everything He created was good'. That is, everything including homosexuality, killing, prostitution, adultery, stealing, success, good life, peace, war, tsunami, volcano, etc all of these can be supported in Isaiah 45:7.

In support of this.

There is nothing bad except what we think of it. God created all the things we see as good or bad and it was never an issue if we sin or not because we could not tell between good and bad. We existed, we kill and committed sin but we lacked the ability to tell if what we were doing is good or bad until we ate the fruit of knowledge.

The fruit of knowledge is a curse that makes us differentiate and classify things between good or bad. God never wanted us to have the ability to differentiate or tell if what we do is good or bad. We were meant to exist with all the good and bad without knowing.

Now, the point where everything crashes is... How was Adam and Eve supposed to know that "disobedience" is bad when they lacked the knowledge of good and evil?

Disobeying God's instruction was an evil act but Adam and Evil could not tell because God did not give them the ability to determine or understand what is good or bad.

Yet God punished even though they are innocent. Abi, how do we explain this?

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Re: That We May Have Sex With Them! by ume1000: 9:44am On Sep 20, 2020
OgeFather:


which is why there's grace and repentance
We are just pawns in this situation the sooner u realize that the Better for u

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Re: That We May Have Sex With Them! by Nobody: 9:46am On Sep 20, 2020
Coder2Client:


Yes, God did all that and later said in Exodus to the Israelite 'thou shall not kill' to amend that. In fact, if someone hurts you badly and you have some sort of super power, I am certain you won't spare the person, that's it.

God created us that way, remember what the Bible said in Genesis , 'and He saw that everything He created was good'. That is, everything including homosexuality, killing, prostitution, adultery, stealing, success, good life, peace, war, tsunami, volcano, etc all of these can be supported in Isaiah 45:7.


May I suggest he reads the book of gigamish. The book will help him under the answer he seeks.
Re: That We May Have Sex With Them! by Nobody: 9:50am On Sep 20, 2020
Hh
Re: That We May Have Sex With Them! by ecclize: 9:51am On Sep 20, 2020
GOD created man for good purpose only but it is apparent that both good and bad are part of its nature...
the bad was made manifested as a result of his disobedience...

this can only mean that nothing is perfect or ultimate no matter how it might seems

Does the white man invent computer just so yahoo boys could use it for criminality?
Re: That We May Have Sex With Them! by vivies: 9:52am On Sep 20, 2020
with all this comments flying around some will surely be reborn.

adam and eve ate the fruit which have the knowledge to understand what is bad and good.

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Re: That We May Have Sex With Them! by Ellasure: 9:53am On Sep 20, 2020
elated177:
El Elohe Yahshrael!

Genesis 19:4 Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom—both young and old—surrounded the house. 5 They called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.”

Thanks for bringing out this your topic. It is fundamental.

Some responses are ascribing all the blames to only God Almighty, have they forgotten that the creation of everything was by God suggestions to all others present that LET US___.
Subsequently, the other members of the heavenly Kingdom equally played certain roles in the life of Man here on earth. Live out other parts of the creation as it is known today.

The LET US team should be expected to comprise of variety of opinions and devices and machinations. Some will envy, jealous etc the Almighty God for his success in carrying out the creation, while some will support fully just as it is found among us humans on earth. Remember one saying in closing church prayers "as it was in the beginning it is now world without end'.

So, the evils are with Man and the good are with him always. The question is which one will he call for help when in need?

When he needs money, will he go to money doubler or babalawo aka juju priests or call on God and wait for response. The choice is his.

Go to the book of Job chapter one till end to know that despite serving God Almighty you have certain responsibilities to act, decree against evil power and wait for the reward from the Almighty God. That is our lot here on earth. Regards

When the Scripture says "both old and young", it didn't mince words. It meant exactly what it says. There is no inner or deeper interpretation required. The boys and men of Sodom desired to have homosexual relationship with the men who were inside Lot's house.


It could be inferred from this passage that the abominable act of homosexuality had become so pervasive in Sodom that all the boys and men knew and had slept with one another. It could be seen that they saw new or fresh faces and were, therefore, tripping over one another in order to have a taste of them. What a shame! What a degrading level of human existence!

The parents and guardians are mostly responsible for the sexual perversion - homosexuality and lesbianism - which their children and wards engage in. Heck! Some of them even directly push their sons into male prostitution. Wickedness!

It has been clearly stated in one or two of my threads that homosexuality and lesbianism are tied to demon worship. The spread and acceptance of these abominable acts are signs of the end of the age.

The end of the age is fast approaching. Religion and religious houses are spreading and multiplying very fast, but the Truth is becoming more rare and even more scarce. Wicked and unrighteous people are increasing in number, while the upright and righteous people are reducing in number. This shows that their religion is worthless and their religious houses are mere clubs and recreational places. The wickedness that abounds in the society is an indictment!

Matthew 24:10 Then many will fall away, and betray one another, and hate one another. 11 And many false prophets will rise and will deceive many. 12 Because iniquity will abound, the love of many will grow cold.

What can you do?

If you are practising these abominable and detestable acts, turn away from them and turn to your Creator for mercy, forgiveness and redemption.


Your prerogative!


El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu Yah!
Re: That We May Have Sex With Them! by King44(m): 9:54am On Sep 20, 2020
Coder2Client:
I am not in support of this ugly act but homosexuality has been in existence since time immemorial. That could mean the urge to have sex with same gender as you was embedded into human systems by the creator (God).

The question now is, why would God create something for man kind and later wants mankind to stay away from that same thing created for human kind?

Such cases are explicitly put under punishment and curses by the Creator (God) in Leviticus 18
look at the way you twisted everything, it didn't occur to you that such act could have been imbibed in some humans who had turned away from God by devil or some demonic entity

This could have been the reason why God had always wanted to punish them severely as He has done to grievous sinners in the past.

Think it over.

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Re: That We May Have Sex With Them! by Barney001: 9:56am On Sep 20, 2020
Mrpojj:

Oga stop twisting the Bible, he saw everything was good, was before Adam disobeyed
What of the apple tree of knowledge and evil that God told Adam not to touch...

Was it not evil?

The truth sir.....God created both good and evil

And if he is all knowing and powerful like the bible claimed, that means he knew Adam would still disobey him,that means he knew that the world would be as it is today... the rape,the killings and all ...he knew it.

Why didn't he stop it then...

Maybe God isn't all knowing and powerful... Just maybe

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Re: That We May Have Sex With Them! by Nobody: 9:57am On Sep 20, 2020
vivies:
with all this comments flying around some will surely be reborn.

adam and eve ate the fruit which have the knowledge to understand what is bad and good.

Before they ate the fruit, you will agree with me that they cannot possibly understand "disobedience" to God as a bad thing because they lacked the knowledge.

So why did God punish them for disobedience?

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Re: That We May Have Sex With Them! by ume1000: 10:00am On Sep 20, 2020
HedwigesMaduro:


Let's say you created many software packages and you tell people "I've made these software packages and they are good". If they are corrupted by a virus while being used does it mean you created the virus as part of the packages?
not when you are the only software developer

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Re: That We May Have Sex With Them! by Barney001: 10:01am On Sep 20, 2020
SLOVFO:


Homosexual feelings are not from God. God didn't plant it in man. Otherwise, there wouldn't be need for creating "Eve". It's called a "perversion"
Really cheesy

Then homosexual feelings are from who...the devil??

Hope you haven't forgotten it was God that created Lucifer. Since God is all knowing, then he must have known that Lucifer would create that homosexual feeling...why didn't he stop him??


The truth sir....God created everything, every every. That is...if the bible is real.

Again... If indeed he was all knowing, then he should have known that creating eve would be the downfall of humans in the garden of eden..

So why was he mad,when the deed eventually happened,
Didn't he know already that it would happen?

It seems to me, that he wanted that evil to happen.....

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Re: That We May Have Sex With Them! by eagleonearth(m): 10:07am On Sep 20, 2020
Coder2Client:
I am not in support of this ugly act but homosexuality has been in existence since time immemorial. That could mean the urge to have sex with same gender as you was embedded into human systems by the creator (God).

The question now is, why would God create something for man kind and later wants mankind to stay away from that same thing created for human kind?

Such cases are explicitly put under punishment and curses by the Creator (God) in Leviticus 18
Romans 1:26-28 describes homosexuality as a perversion and debasement. In the creation story, God made them man and woman so sexual attraction of like sex was never from God. Homosexuality has been from bible days just like the devil and evil have also been. Gayism is demonic. Take it or leave it.
Re: That We May Have Sex With Them! by Successmind(m): 10:08am On Sep 20, 2020
Our bobrisky, your preaching has finally arrived.
Re: That We May Have Sex With Them! by Dantedasz(m): 10:11am On Sep 20, 2020
OCHKESTINE:


Please stop preaching heresy.
Are you normal? If you are gay, do your thing! But stop trying to justify it with the Bible.
Didn't the bible clearly warn that "do not sleep with mankind as you do with women"? Leviticus 18 vs 22.
Have you ever seen a male dog having sex with a male dog?
Even animals know better.


Don't allow the curse of God on you. Commit your sin and leave the bible alone.


The emboldened is UNTRUE. Many animals engage in homosexuality. Follow the link on homosexuality in animals.



https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior&ved=2ahUKEwiopYnVsvfrAhXJYMAKHek8BoYQFjADegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw10nTgDgTSmI4ZwFvOS6gjm

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Re: That We May Have Sex With Them! by tiredoflife(m): 10:12am On Sep 20, 2020
Coder2Client:


Yes, God did all that and later said in Exodus to the Israelite 'thou shall not kill' to amend that. In fact, if someone hurts you badly and you have some sort of super power, I am certain you won't spare the person, that's it.

God created us that way, remember what the Bible said in Genesis , 'and He saw that everything He created was good'. That is, everything including homosexuality, killing, prostitution, adultery, stealing, success, good life, peace, war, tsunami, volcano, etc all of these can be supported in Isaiah 45:7.

The original translation says thou shall not commit murder
Not thou shall not kill
They are two different things.
One comes with motive
While one is justified
Re: That We May Have Sex With Them! by Ellasure: 10:13am On Sep 20, 2020
PietraK:


Before they ate the fruit, you will agree with me that they cannot possibly understand "disobedience" to God as a bad thing because they lacked the knowledge.

So why did God punish them for disobedience?

Excusing failure is the worst form of deprivation. Don't be a depraved human, seek redemption always.

Adam and Eve were well informed before they ate the fruit about the consequences of touching and eating. The warning is sufficient for a wise man.

All thru mankind history, traditional practices have warnings attached. Even drugs and various products packages today have warnings of misuse. So what is your own?
Re: That We May Have Sex With Them! by Nobody: 10:18am On Sep 20, 2020
Coder2Client:

Man was part of the creation that was made good in the beginning, right? Genesis 6:6, suddenly, God regretted that he created man, why? Because the thought of man was continually evil(vs 5), am I right?

The question now is, who put those evil thoughts in human(the good)?

You mentioned fall of man.
Why did God allow man to fall that man got corrupted?


Now, let's assume God said all these things in the beginning but in Isaiah I quoted earlier said, " He created good and bad (peace and evil) He created all of these things." if you believe God is the creator of everything, why didn't you believe He created homosexuality and other forms of social vices?

Who created demons? Who created devil, Satan?
Leave these people alone with their beliefs, the world is changing and if they don't agree to accept that it's their business.

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Re: That We May Have Sex With Them! by Nobody: 10:19am On Sep 20, 2020
Ellasure:


Excusing failure is the worst form of deprivation. Don't be a depraved human, seek redemption always.

Adam and Eve were well informed before they ate the fruit about the consequences of touching and eating. The warning is sufficient for a wise man.

All thru mankind history, traditional practices have warnings attached. Even drugs and various products packages today have warnings of misuse. So what is your own?

Any warning or information is useless when the person or thing given the warning or information lacks the ability to digest or understand it.

God created Adam and Eve with no conscience, he created them not to know between good and evil. So if disobeying Gods instruction is evil and bad, how could they have identified the act of disobedience?

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Re: That We May Have Sex With Them! by Barney001: 10:19am On Sep 20, 2020
africandollar:
This Coder guy should quit confusing himself jare. He created everything and it was good then came man’s fall in the garden of Eden and you’re still insisting God created man and implanted homosexuality tendencies in him?

You’ve already answers your own question, all sins came as a result of the fall or did you ever read that Adam and Eve sinned before the fall?

God didn’t allow them to fall, they had free will to choose to either serve God or not. Same way God still has no business with either you choose to drink cornflakes or soak garri when you wake up in the morning!
Now this is funny cheesy

As a result of their fall??

Didn't God know they would fall at the end las las. You say it....as if he doesn't have control over whether they fall or not...

Does that now mean that he is not all powerful as claimed? cheesy

Its just like...you have a loving pet who sees poisoned meat on the floor and wants to eat it

You know that it would kill him or cause his fall at the end...and let's say you had God's power that is the ability to foresee the future.. That means you know he'd eventually eat at the end...

Wouldn't you try to stop him...by all means? cheesy

God's case is even worse... He was the one who introduced the poisoned tree...yet he knew no matter what...at the end,they would eat it...

Now tell me...isn't that evil. cheesy

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Re: That We May Have Sex With Them! by Nobody: 10:19am On Sep 20, 2020
tiredoflife:


The original translation says thou shall not commit murder
Not thou shall not kill
They are two different things.
One comes with motive
While one is justified
Look at this one twisting words, it varies across translations.
Re: That We May Have Sex With Them! by Nobody: 10:22am On Sep 20, 2020
HedwigesMaduro:


Let's say you created many software packages and you tell people "I've made these software packages and they are good". If they are corrupted by a virus while being used does it mean you created the virus as part of the packages?
So who creates viruses, do they form out of nothing. You are the only software developer so any software (a virus is a software) that appears is you that created it. Comparing a God figure with a software developer is really stupid self.

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Re: That We May Have Sex With Them! by tonyson010(m): 10:23am On Sep 20, 2020
Coder2Client:


Why did God test them? To know if they'll pass or fail, right? If they pass, they obey otherwise they disobey.

God knows that man will disobey (fail test) why did He still test them?


God knows that man CAN disobey (fail test). Why did God still test them Perhaps To know if they will.

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Re: That We May Have Sex With Them! by ymstar(m): 10:25am On Sep 20, 2020
Insightful

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Re: That We May Have Sex With Them! by wfjimmytobby(m): 10:26am On Sep 20, 2020
Bleep don start since then
Re: That We May Have Sex With Them! by Coder2Client(m): 10:27am On Sep 20, 2020
tiredoflife:

The original translation says thou shall not commit murder Not thou shall not kill They are two different things. One comes with motive While one is justified
Thank you for the observation. However, check this out Thou shalt not kill. Exodus 20:13 KJV

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Re: That We May Have Sex With Them! by Nobody: 10:28am On Sep 20, 2020
tonyson010:


God knows that man CAN disobey (fail test). Why did God still test them Perhaps To know if they will.
But why test when you know the future.

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Re: That We May Have Sex With Them! by luvmijeje(f): 10:29am On Sep 20, 2020
He who is without sin should throw the first stone.

If lying which will are all guilty of has not bring down judgment upon man, then homosexuality won't. Or is homosexuality worse than lying?

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Re: That We May Have Sex With Them! by tiredoflife(m): 10:34am On Sep 20, 2020
Coder2Client:


Thank you for the observation. However, check this out Thou shalt not kill.
Exodus 20:13 KJV

Is english too hard to understand

I said original translation
KJV is not the original translation
Re: That We May Have Sex With Them! by Hassanmaye(m): 10:36am On Sep 20, 2020
Ten cases of incest, in the book of God! I dare any Christian to read Ezekiel chapter 23 to his audience.
You should also get the book. 'Is the bible Gods word.
Re: That We May Have Sex With Them! by Coder2Client(m): 10:39am On Sep 20, 2020
tiredoflife:

Is english too hard to understand
I said original translation KJV is not the original translation
Ah! Sorry, I didn't take note.
Re: That We May Have Sex With Them! by tonyson010(m): 10:41am On Sep 20, 2020
Coder2Client:
But Good and Evil have been existing before the disobedience, right or wrong? Get your answer from Isaiah 45:7

Not explicitly answered with that chapter with regards to the time.


When God created Man, He created him in HIS image and likeness and commanded man to multiply, dominant the earth. God gave Man the power to think good and bad, but told him that with bad things comes consequences. He gave Man the power to put the thinking creativity into discovering how to make those thinking realities.

I will point that Man has been given much power to dominate and create things

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