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Re: I’ll Remove Immunity Clause – Buhari ! by trhymes(m): 2:26pm On Mar 01, 2011
Who will believe this, promises is all they give out, most of them do not deliver, why will he
Re: I’ll Remove Immunity Clause – Buhari ! by faithin9ja: 2:37pm On Mar 01, 2011
I pity Nigeria,
where right thinking Nigerians honestly believe that the best thing for their country is to ELECT a man who took over power with the barrel of a gun. Show me any country in world history where a person paid to protect a country, suddenly feels HE is best placed to rule the country by force. In some countries BUHARI would not be contesting for election but facing treason charges.

remove immunity? then he should be the first to face charges.

When BUHARI wins the next election and 9 months later some colonel in the army carries out a coup what will BUHARI say?

1969 a dashing, handsome, principled, revolutionary, charismatic, socialist army colonel overthrew a corrupt monarchy - whole world loved him (maybe with the exception of the usual evil US & UK) - This guy really took care of his people, BUT 41 years later now look a Gaddaffi - tell me BUHARI in1983 and Gaddaffi in 1969 are not similar
Re: I’ll Remove Immunity Clause – Buhari ! by DTaj: 2:40pm On Mar 01, 2011
@Rasputtin, why are you so deluded that you couldn't even summon courage to respond to GenBuhari's valid assertion below:

"We will amend the constitution to remove immunity from prosecution for elected officers in criminal cases,” Buhari states in his manifesto which was released in Abuja on Monday."

Gen Buhari, the CPC candidate, was quoted to have stated that removal of immunity clause would be encouraged for criminal cases only! One, your point about governors being distracted with all manner of cases falls flat because Buhari anticipated the issue and specifically mentioned "criminal cases",

It's also apparent that you've conceded defeat to a well-reasoned argument, that was why you conveniently avoided responding to GenBuhari even after you had responded to other posts that were submitted well after his response to you.

It appears that certain people earn their daily bread from members of the party that revels in perfidy and unabrasive corruption, hence the blind followership of their 'sheepish, weak, irrational, hollow, unprepared, evidently lack-lustre' candidate and sitting President called GEJ,

Nigerians, vote wisely! As a 36 year-old man, I shouted 'up NEPA' while growing up, my 3 kids are also shouting 'up NEPA'!!! Haba! Would my grand-children shout 'up NEPA'? God forbid! Yes, God forbid! But what are you doing to change this evil PDP government at almost all levels (except probably Chime and Amaechi)!!! God help us all,
Re: I’ll Remove Immunity Clause – Buhari ! by MITA(f): 3:03pm On Mar 01, 2011
The people can enforce this bill through protest.
Re: I’ll Remove Immunity Clause – Buhari ! by Muza(m): 3:28pm On Mar 01, 2011
Only the guilty and corrupt will be afraid, Carry go Gen

BB 2011
Re: I’ll Remove Immunity Clause – Buhari ! by Antiscam1: 3:39pm On Mar 01, 2011
It is true dat GEJ,Ribadu etc may not make a gud choice,BUT BUHARI is a WORST option:REASON?
1.After the Brouhaha in TUNISIA,imagine d RETURN of BEN Ali for democratic president!
2.After the killing,maiming etc in Egypt,imagine d RETURN of MUBARAK for democratic president!
3.After d genoicide and anti-humanity in Libya,Imagine d return of GHADAFFi for democratic president!

If u think all d above is a slap on d people,well BUHARI is not different 4rm THEM.he truncated DEMOCRACY and forcefully took over
as a military Head of state in this same NIGERIA.So,tell me if BANBANGIDA did not stop his reign he wud probably have been dere just like Ghadaffi,ben Ali,Mubarak.

In his quest to completely RUIN NIGERIA,which he feels BABANGIDA cut short.He went ahead to SERVE under the DARKEST-GOVERNMT in NIGERIA(Abacha),which i even doubt A ben ali,ghadaffi,mubarak will feel shy to do.

FORGET POLITICS and say d TRUTH NIGERIANS.,pls i'm waiting to b prove wrong on d above facts.
Re: I’ll Remove Immunity Clause – Buhari ! by 10cirenoh: 3:54pm On Mar 01, 2011
Anti-scam:

It is true dat GEJ,Ribadu etc may not make a gud choice,BUT BUHARI is a WORST option:REASON?
1.After the Brouhaha in TUNISIA,imagine d RETURN of BEN Ali for democratic president!
2.After the killing,maiming etc in Egypt,imagine d RETURN of MUBARAK for democratic president!
3.After d genoicide and anti-humanity in Libya,Imagine d return of GHADAFFi for democratic president!

If u think all d above is a slap on d people,well BUHARI is not different 4rm THEM.he truncated DEMOCRACY and forcefully took over
as a military Head of state in this same NIGERIA.So,tell me if BANBANGIDA did not stop his reign he wud probably have been dere just like Ghadaffi,ben Ali,Mubarak.

In his quest to completely RUIN NIGERIA,which he feels BABANGIDA cut short.He went ahead to SERVE under the DARKEST-GOVERNMT in NIGERIA(Abacha),which i even doubt A ben ali,ghadaffi,mubarak will feel shy to do.

FORGET POLITICS and say d TRUTH NIGERIANS.,pls i'm waiting to b prove wrong on d above facts.

You need a brain mr man, who told you it was Buhari that truncated "democracy"? are you this stooopid?
why is Buhari not different from your gods and lords? (PDP)?
Babangida the killer stopped him because he was about to put him and his stealing military cabals in jail, they had to try to stop him from doing that. BABANGIDA IS THE BRAIN TO ALL OUR WOES SINCE 1985 and it has not stopped since then.

The same BABANGINDA is your GEJ role model, GEJ is an apprentice to a killer, murderer and a looter, you need a brain you brainless chickenfeed.
I hate stupid people like you and your like angry
Re: I’ll Remove Immunity Clause – Buhari ! by 1United1: 3:57pm On Mar 01, 2011
Buhari Na the Man O, CPC Na the Party Ooo. Na im wey we dey oooo for Better Tomorrow. Buhari, Buhari Action!!!! CPC, CPC Pogresssssssss
Re: I’ll Remove Immunity Clause – Buhari ! by jaso1(m): 3:58pm On Mar 01, 2011
I sometimes find it difficult with the attitude of some Nigerians towards realistic nation building. With the situation and routen stage of the country, some people are finaly blind and deaf to the extent of compromisisng their common sense and also engage in illogicical reasoning.
I thanks my God for whom i am , his effort tk give me the wisdom to know left from right, it something worth everlasting appreciation.
I don't know for the poster of this subject!
Re: I’ll Remove Immunity Clause – Buhari ! by Blazing99: 4:00pm On Mar 01, 2011
@ Antiscam and faithin9ja.

I'm sorry but I have to look down on ur statements cos they are borne out of a shallow perspective.

You both are judging a man because he wore a uniform, is there anything bad with wearing a uniform?

And to add it up this man begun the only credible war against corruption, he saw the danger in this virus that could destroy the element of any society. Unfortunately his venture ended so soon because of the greed of other corrupt people. Now he wants to come back and you guys are ranting against him because he was a military general. This opinion doesn't tick.

Maybe you prefer Jonathan surrounded by a horde of corrupt, greedy and unmindful individuals ruling the country for the past 12 years and that are ready to get power at the expense of the lives of you and me.

I agree, the problem with Nigeria is Nigerians that love seeing mistakes repeated again and again
Re: I’ll Remove Immunity Clause – Buhari ! by chopper(m): 4:02pm On Mar 01, 2011
sebi na if u fit reach aso rock!!!
Re: I’ll Remove Immunity Clause – Buhari ! by dayokanu(m): 4:11pm On Mar 01, 2011
Buhari is the man

All these PDP thieves want the immunity in place
Re: I’ll Remove Immunity Clause – Buhari ! by noperson1: 4:26pm On Mar 01, 2011
why do this so called politicians think they can just come and be pouring sand into our eyes? i dont blame them. It is because others have tried it in the past and gotten away with it. If he removes the immunity clause, of what economic benefit would that be to the average nigerian?
Re: I’ll Remove Immunity Clause – Buhari ! by Nobody: 4:36pm On Mar 01, 2011
Anti-scam:

It is true dat GEJ,Ribadu etc may not make a gud choice,BUT BUHARI is a WORST option:REASON?
1.After the Brouhaha in TUNISIA,imagine d RETURN of BEN Ali for democratic president!
2.After the killing,maiming etc in Egypt,imagine d RETURN of MUBARAK for democratic president!
3.After d genoicide and anti-humanity in Libya,Imagine d return of GHADAFFi for democratic president!

If u think all d above is a slap on d people,well BUHARI is not different 4rm THEM.he truncated DEMOCRACY and forcefully took over
as a military Head of state in this same NIGERIA.So,tell me if BANBANGIDA did not stop his reign he wud probably have been dere just like Ghadaffi,ben Ali,Mubarak.

In his quest to completely RUIN NIGERIA,which he feels BABANGIDA cut short.He went ahead to SERVE under the DARKEST-GOVERNMT in NIGERIA(Abacha),which i even doubt A ben ali,ghadaffi,mubarak will feel shy to do.

FORGET POLITICS and say d TRUTH NIGERIANS.,pls i'm waiting to b prove wrong on d above facts.

^^ you are an out-and-out eediot! your mother should av aborted and save the world another fool! Despite your pathetic situation, u should still have the mind to resist what is good for u.

BB or mass protests! 2011 is the END OF PDP - PEOPLE DECEIVE PEOPLE - PAPA DECEIVE PIKIN - POVERTY DEVELOPMENT PARTY!

DEVIL PUNISH PDP!
Re: I’ll Remove Immunity Clause – Buhari ! by monkeyleg: 4:47pm On Mar 01, 2011
A step in the right direction and must be commended.
Re: I’ll Remove Immunity Clause – Buhari ! by hbrednic: 4:48pm On Mar 01, 2011
Why didnt you do it when you were in power Mr Buhari  
Only talk,talk and more talk  cheesy cheesy cheesy
Do you even listen to yourself   tongue
Re: I’ll Remove Immunity Clause – Buhari ! by wikitruth: 4:51pm On Mar 01, 2011
Good intention by the truthful general. What you guys don't know is that immunity does not cover people in the national assembly and so they have nothing much to lose by passing it. Good intention. If this is done with FOI then political office holders esp in executive will know be more accountable to the people and have no hidding place.  GEJ, you see yourself so, celebrating the likes of OLEbode (ok Olabode) George. BB2011 IS IT. No religious, ethnic or ignoramus sentiment!!
Re: I’ll Remove Immunity Clause – Buhari ! by Blazing99: 4:54pm On Mar 01, 2011
hbrednic:

Why didnt you do it when you were in power Mr Buhari  
Only talk,talk and more talk  cheesy cheesy cheesy
Do you even listen to yourself   tongue

In military regimes, they dont use constitutions, they use decrees.
Many government officials were prosecuted under Buhari's short regime.

Advice: Check facts before you rant
Re: I’ll Remove Immunity Clause – Buhari ! by monkeyleg: 4:59pm On Mar 01, 2011
I know fit laff finish

2011 is the END OF PDP - PEOPLE DECEIVE PEOPLE - PAPA DECEIVE PIKIN - POVERTY DEVELOPMENT PARTY!


Listen, simple question to all who support PDP, why should anyone vote for PDP? I need concrete solid reasons
Re: I’ll Remove Immunity Clause – Buhari ! by Princek12(m): 5:02pm On Mar 01, 2011
I now know this guy is a fool, and he thinks Nigerians are fools. How does removing the immunity clause advance any important interest? The immunity clause simply immunes them from prosecuting presidents while in office, which I think is a good thing, so that opponents will not use frivolous lawsuits to interrupt the president's duties while in office. But no law is stopping anyone from prosecuting the president for criminal activities after he leaves office, and the main problem is prosecuting former presidents for criminal activities after they leave office, not while they are in office. Buhari needs to shut up if he has nothing to say. And if he wants to say something, it should at least be something of substance, such as  promising to prosecute ex presidents like Babangida and OBJ for criminal activities committed while in office.
Re: I’ll Remove Immunity Clause – Buhari ! by Nobody: 5:05pm On Mar 01, 2011
BB 4 Life
Re: I’ll Remove Immunity Clause – Buhari ! by fxtopedia(m): 5:11pm On Mar 01, 2011
BB all the wife!

NO WAY FOR PDP again.
Re: I’ll Remove Immunity Clause – Buhari ! by koyuid(m): 5:15pm On Mar 01, 2011
hbrednic:

Why didnt you do it when you were in power Mr Buhari  
Only talk,talk and more talk  cheesy cheesy cheesy
Do you even listen to yourself   tongue
dumb ass the immunity clause only came in 1999!!!
the problem with u PDP supporters is that you cant think and reason logically!
the question is what has pdp done for this country in the past 12 years

most nigerians have never enjoyed their lives before so they dont know that things can actually be better, poverty has really diminished if not completely wiped out their thinking faculty infact most beleive 24hrs electricity is not possible, because theve never had it!

what has PDP done for you in the past 12 years? what has changed in the past 12 years  THINK MY PEOPLE THINK!!!
Re: I’ll Remove Immunity Clause – Buhari ! by monkeyleg: 5:21pm On Mar 01, 2011
My question reverberates, why Should anyone VOTE for PDP. Lets cut all this bull of critisizing Buhari, what makes PDP the party people should vote for, and I dont want any sentimental answers?

They have been in office for 12yrs, ruined the damn country, and people are prepared to continue thier brainless support, probably because of sentiments.
Re: I’ll Remove Immunity Clause – Buhari ! by koyuid(m): 5:27pm On Mar 01, 2011
monkeyleg:

My question reverberates, why Should anyone VOTE for PDP. Lets cut all this bull of critisizing Buhari, what makes PDP the party people should vote for, and I dont want any sentimental answers?

They have been in office for 12yrs, ruined the damn country, and people are prepared to continue thier brainless support, probably because of sentiments.


The billion dollar question?
Re: I’ll Remove Immunity Clause – Buhari ! by faithin9ja: 5:29pm On Mar 01, 2011
@ Antiscam and faithin9ja.

I'm sorry but I have to look down on your statements cos they are borne out of a shallow perspective.

You both are judging a man because he wore a uniform, is there anything bad with wearing a uniform?

And to add it up this man begun the only credible war against corruption, he saw the danger in this virus that could destroy the element of any society. Unfortunately his venture ended so soon because of the greed of other corrupt people. Now he wants to come back and you guys are ranting against him because he was a military general. This opinion doesn't tick.

Maybe you prefer Jonathan surrounded by a horde of corrupt, greedy and unmindful individuals ruling the country for the past 12 years and that are ready to get power at the expense of the lives of you and me.

I agree, the problem with Nigeria is Nigerians that love seeing mistakes repeated again and again



@greateros @blazing99

Either you guys don't know your history, or were too young when we lived under military rule. I know my history and experienced first hand the military. In primary school I was forced to stand in the sun for hours and wave flags to greet Gowon and Eyadema (Republic of Benin president) when their motorcade drove past during a state visit. I was a key supporter of BUHARI when he did his coup in 1983 ( I was university at the time).The general public were deceived into believing that some military men were better in government than NPN or UPN.

Nigerian shine your eyes!!! is not the uniform, it's the arrogance, the fact that anyone who has a gun, a gun dem take your money buy (according to FELA) they use this gun to rule you.

150 million people can do better than PDP, we can do better than ex-military dictators.

As some one said before if not for Babagidda coup, Buhari would still be in power today 2011, that is 28 years later, some people believe even ABACHA was good for Nigeria because he dealt with some corrupt individuals, if he was not killed, he too would still be in power today.

Please Nigerians let us not go back to our sh*t like dogs, we are a vibrant, young nation why do we need these old ex-so called leaders?
Re: I’ll Remove Immunity Clause – Buhari ! by Blazing99: 5:43pm On Mar 01, 2011
Faithin9ja so who d you advice to rule us?
Goodluck Jonathan
Re: I’ll Remove Immunity Clause – Buhari ! by faithin9ja: 5:59pm On Mar 01, 2011
@Blazin99

you're not reading my post;

150 million people can do better than PDP, we can do better than ex-military dictators.

We do not need to vote for Goodluck or Buhari; all the current contestants are jokers, but if you want a change then vote for somebody who has not truncated a democracy and has not been part of a corrupt party, try Ribadu, but stop thinking BUHARI is the people's answer or he is one of the masses.

Somebody please answer my question what will Buhari do when there is a coup against him? afterall he is a supporter of coups.
Re: I’ll Remove Immunity Clause – Buhari ! by deb(m): 6:11pm On Mar 01, 2011
Any right-thinking person wil want to lend a helping hand for Buhari for wantin 2 do somethin of worth and not to condemn him.

Immunity is Military idea and its undemocratic but our politicians will want it to remain because its favours their looting nature
Re: I’ll Remove Immunity Clause – Buhari ! by honeric01(m): 6:17pm On Mar 01, 2011
faithin9ja:


Somebody please answer my question what will Buhari do when there is a coup against him? afterall he is a supporter of coups.

This question does not warrant any answer, before i even try to answer you, let me ask you this, between GEJ and Buhari, who's likely to be overthrown easily?


While you're at that, answer this too

what makes PDP the party people should vote for, and I dont want any sentimental answers?
Re: I’ll Remove Immunity Clause – Buhari ! by DTaj: 6:21pm On Mar 01, 2011
@faithinnaija,

How could some people be so blind to the truth? Imagine someone who claimed to have lived under military rule stating that Eyadema was the President of Benin Republic! Even my 5-year old daughter knows that Eyadema was Prseident of Togo (father of current Togolese President), This dishonesty could either be based on the fact that you assume that everyone making comments are under 30 years, or you were just blatantly lying (much like PDP suppoters generally),

Again, I can't understand how any sane adult Nigerian could imply that he liked the Shagari regime, with the exploits of Umaru Dikko, Uba Ahmed, Adisa Akinloye and their eternally corrupt NPN!!! Incidentally, PDP is almost 100% NPN! History continues to repeat itself,

Anyway, that is beside the point. As an individual, I lived under Gowon, Murtala, Obasanjo (1st and 2nd periods), Shagari, Buhari, IBB, and all others after them. I knew how Nigeria progressed under Buhari, and I didn't just read stories, newspapers, etc as some commentators here, I lived through the period,

This is a summary of the nostalgic Buhari years:

1. Nigeria was regularly paying her national debts

2. Buhari/Idiagbon published all national debts and status of payments

3. Buhari, who some stupid people accuse of religious bigotry uprooted the infamous Maitatsine sect that killed so many people in the North (yet he was a Muslim)

4. Buhari did not hesitate to sanction a very popular Islamic scholar at the time- Sheikh Abubakar Gumi when (if I remember well) he made comments that could divide Nigeria

5. Buhari, it was, along with his deputy, Idiagbon, who stopped traditional rulers from Katsina (part of old Kaduna state at the time) and Ilorin, who attempted to pay solidarity visit to Dodan Barracks (the seat of the Federal Government at the time), and stated that they were Nigeria's leaders and not Kaduna or Kwara state leaders

6. During the Buhari years, one of my childhood friends returned home (Lagos) from school in Kwara in the very late hours (I think at about 11pm), he walked from Iddo to Lagos Island and was escorted along the way by an unknown soldier

7. During the Buhari years, Nigerians were beginning to imbibe discipline- we orderly queued at post offices (internet was virtually unknown to Nigerians at that time), stadia, amusement park, bus stops, etc

8. All inter-city and intra-city buses had waste bins- I recalled several times when you had to put away waste from oranges, mango, fruit seeds, paper foils, nylon, etc into the waste bins- no one threw things off the bus/car window

9. Bare-faced profiteering, corporate/commercial greed was very low owing to the Price Boards and the respect for enforcers (compare to now when every 'olodo' could import anything at 100% mark-up)

10. In the Buhari years, our parents (quite a lot of us had teacher-parents) could afford the best education available at all levels- elementary, secondary, tertiary

11. During Buhari's reign, the middle class existed and you could afford 'Geisha', sardine, Uncle Ben's rice, 'Carnation milk, etc.

12. The honesty of Buhari and his deputy, the no-nonsense Babatunde, meant that Idiagbon's mother still sold kerosene in their old family house in Ilorin during and well after the regime. I guess Buharis' parents also didn't live any ostentatious life.

13. I was classmate to one of Buhari's daughters (who also had a siser in another department) at ABU Zaria Accounting department well after Buhari had left office. The girls lived like the everyday Hausa girl- they wore ankara, regular slippers, etc. In fact their surname at the time was Muhammadu, Buharis' first name (therefore many students never knew that they were Buhari's daughters). The girls were too simple and gentle to be a former President's/Head of State's daughters. Please compare to nowadays,

14. Lastly, people should open their eyes and be perceptive, out of all our past national leaders, only Buhari had the least means and is also the most frugal of the lot- he doesn't have billions billions stashed anywhere, he has only the family house in Daura and his Kaduna house. If honesty does not pay, if honesty does not appeal to Nigerians, what does? Dishonesty? Bare-faced stealing? Undridled corruption?

Fellow Nairalanders, we all attended schools, we are educated, we are enlightened, some of us live in the Diaspora, some of us had our post-graduate education in Europe, why can't we just set aside sentiments that never helped the older generation? Why can't we just be objective? Let's objectively appraise Buhari, please. HE IS THE BEST OPTION OF THE WHOLE LOT!!!

It's crystal clear that most GEJ supporters are supporting him either based on empty emotions (oh, he was a poor, humble boy from Otuoke,  a Bayelsa riverine community), or the fact that they benefit directly or indirectly from the perfidy of his party-PDP.

All the bases for supporting GEJ that I have read either on NR or on various other blogs and websites are mere HOT AIR based on sentiments. In the heart of our hearts as individuals, would we seek to vote PDP in April

IF THE TRUTH MUST BE TOLD, NOTHING GOOD CAN COME FROM A PDP FEDERAL GOVERNMENT! EVEN IF JONATHAN SEEKS TO DO CERTAIN THINGS, HE IS JUST TOO COMPROMISED!!!
Re: I’ll Remove Immunity Clause – Buhari ! by faithin9ja: 6:25pm On Mar 01, 2011
@honeric01

you miss the point of my question.

Buhari is a coupist, he has overthrown and elected government (albeit an unpopular government) but elected all the same, if Buhari wins the next election and some military man decides to overthrow him, will Buhari have the right to complain about being overthrown?

to answer your question; who is most likely to be overthrown? I am not into baseless speculation; I NEVER WANT TO SEE MILITARY RULING THIS NATION AGAIN!!!
so I have no answer.

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