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Will We Ever Feel Safe And Secure? What Does The Bible Have To Say? by DappaD: 10:50am On Sep 25, 2020
The United Nations is promoting the concept of “global citizenship.” Goals include encouraging international cooperation, respecting human rights, and protecting our planet. The reason? As expressed by Maher Nasser in the UN Chronicle, “climate change, organized crime, rising inequalities, unresolved conflicts, mass displacement of people, global terrorism, infectious diseases, and similar threats do not recognize . . . borders.”

Others have gone even further, advocating a world government. They include the Italian philosopher, poet, and statesman Dante (1265-1321) and the physicist Albert Einstein (1879-1955). Dante believed that peace could not last in a politically divided world. A “kingdom divided against itself comes to ruin,” he said, quoting Jesus Christ.​—Luke 11:17.

Shortly after World War II, which saw the use of two atomic bombs, Albert Einstein wrote an open letter to the General Assembly of the United Nations. “The United Nations,” he said, “must act with utmost speed to create the necessary conditions for international security by laying the foundations for a real world government.”

But could the politicians who would make up such a powerful government be immune to corruption, incompetence, and oppression? Or would they be just as prone to those dark traits as others have been? These questions call to mind the words of British historian Lord Acton, who said: “Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely.”

Even so, if the human family is to enjoy true peace and harmony, we have to be united. But how can that goal be achieved? Is it even realistic?
The Bible’s answer is yes. It can and will be achieved. How? Not by a world government made up of corruptible politicians. Rather, it will be by a government of God’s making. What is more, that government will express his right to rule over his creation. What is that government? The Bible even gives it a name​—“the Kingdom of God,” or God’s Kingdom.​—Luke 4:43.

“LET YOUR KINGDOM COME”

Jesus Christ had God’s Kingdom in mind when he said in his model prayer: “Let your Kingdom come. Let your will take place . . . on earth.” (Matthew 6:9, 10) Yes, God’s Kingdom will ensure that God’s will is done on earth, not the will of power-hungry or selfish humans.

God’s Kingdom is also called “the Kingdom of the heavens.” (Matthew 5:3) The reason? While it will rule over the earth, it will not rule from the earth but will rule from heaven. Think what that means. This world government will not require material or financial support. What a relief that will be for its human subjects!

As the term “kingdom” suggests, God’s Kingdom is a royal government. It has a King​—Jesus Christ—​who received his authority from God. Concerning Jesus, the Bible says:

“The government shall be upon his shoulder . . . Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end.”​—Isaiah 9:6, 7, King James Version.

“To him there were given rulership, honor, and a kingdom, that the peoples, nations, and language groups should all serve him. His rulership . . . will not pass away.”​—Daniel 7:14.

“The kingdom of the world has become the Kingdom of our Lord [God] and of his Christ.”​—Revelation 11:15.

In fulfillment of Jesus’ model prayer, God’s Kingdom will fully accomplish God’s will on earth. Under it, all mankind will learn how to care for the planet so that it will be healthy again and teem with life.

Above all, God’s Kingdom will educate its subjects. All will be taught the same standards. There will be no discord or division. “They will not cause any harm or any ruin . . . because the earth will certainly be filled with the knowledge of Jehovah as the waters cover the sea,” says Isaiah 11:9.

Earth’s inhabitants will truly be what the United Nations would like people to be​—peace-loving global citizens. “They will find exquisite delight in the abundance of peace,” says Psalm 37:11. In time, words like “crime,” “pollution,” “poverty,” and “war” will disappear from our vocabulary. But when will this happen? Yes, when will God’s Kingdom take charge? How will it do so? And how can you benefit from its rule?
For more on this, please visit jw.org

Source :
https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/awake-no1-2019-mar-apr/world-government/

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Re: Will We Ever Feel Safe And Secure? What Does The Bible Have To Say? by Newsblenda(m): 10:53am On Sep 25, 2020
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Re: Will We Ever Feel Safe And Secure? What Does The Bible Have To Say? by Emusan(m): 12:13pm On Sep 25, 2020
When you realized that Watchtower Society was secretly part of UN for years before they were busted and quickly withdrawn their registration.

Maybe because they were part of this WORLD GOVERNMENT in the first place, is the reason for their NEW WORLD Translation.
Re: Will We Ever Feel Safe And Secure? What Does The Bible Have To Say? by DappaD: 12:36pm On Sep 25, 2020

Emusan:


When you realized that Watchtower Society was secretly part of UN for years before they were busted and quickly withdrawn their registration.

Maybe because they were part of this WORLD GOVERNMENT in the first place, is the reason for their NEW WORLD Translation.

The naive/inexperienced person believes every word ,
But the shrewd one ponders each step.
—Proverbs 14:15
I guess we and those reading know who the “inexperienced” one is here, that the Bible speaks of.

You fancy stories/talltales you heard here and there without considering the full facts and you expect me to tender you a sound reply.
Mr Emusan, please find something better to do. Thanks.

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Re: Will We Ever Feel Safe And Secure? What Does The Bible Have To Say? by Emusan(m): 3:13pm On Sep 25, 2020
DappaD:


The naive/inexperienced person believes every word ,
But the shrewd one ponders each step.
—Proverbs 14:15
I guess we and those reading know who the “inexperienced” one is here, that the Bible speaks of.

You fancy stories/talltales you heard here and there without considering the full facts and you expect me to tender you a sound reply.
Mr Emusan, please find something better to do. Thanks.

See painment

Are you denying that Watchtower Society never be part of UN?

What is the reason behind the use of the words NEW WORLD by Watchtower?
Re: Will We Ever Feel Safe And Secure? What Does The Bible Have To Say? by DappaD: 4:21pm On Sep 25, 2020

Emusan:

See painment
Are you denying that Watchtower Society never be part of UN?
What is the reason behind the use of the words NEW WORLD by Watchtower?

Mr Emus.an, perhaps I should educate you—so you don't keep making this mistake.

The WTBTS has never endorsed or supported any political organization ever, let alone the UN.

The Society applied to get access to the UN Library for the general info and stats seen in articles of Awake and public Watchtower magazines.

It was later brought to the Society's attention that the UN had changed their T&C's for those who had access to their libraries. The new T&C's apparently contained new requirements which the Society reviewed and saw that the new conditions stated conflicted with Bible's standards. And then they withdrew completely from the association because JW's will never compromise their neutrality for anything or anybody.

But as usual, apostates and all those attacking Jehovah's Witnesses will see any opportunity to latch onto anything they can find and spread half truths, leaving out vital information—showing that they themselves aren't honest.

Anyone having the “power of reason” (Romans 12:1) will examine all the facts without rushing to conclusion over what he knows little about.

So make no mistake, Em.usan, because Jehovah's Witnesses will never compromise their neutrality nor will they ever support ANY political organization whatsoever—even at the threat of death.
JW's will continue to heed Jesus' words to be “no part of the world”. John 17:14,16

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Re: Will We Ever Feel Safe And Secure? What Does The Bible Have To Say? by Emusan(m): 9:01am On Sep 26, 2020
I love the way you address this issue in which you've shot yourself in the foot but trust me you'll still be defending your LYING organization.

Sorry, I used that word LYING because it's what I derived from your own post which are:

1. That Apostates and those who are attacking JWs are SPREADING HALF TRUTH

2. Anyone having the “power of reason” (Romans 12:1) will examine all the facts without rushing to conclusion over what he knows little about.

Which you didn't do but you want others to do it.

Actually, we who have power of reasoning have examined ALL THE FACTS but we realized that it was WTBTS that is SPREADING HALF TRUTH to cover their involvement with the UN and that WTBTS members lack power of reasoning (Romans 12:1) to examine the lies of cover up by WTBTS as I will expound below.


DappaD:
Mr Emus.an, perhaps I should educate you—so you don't keep making this mistake.

Thanks for the enlightenment but the question is; are you ready to use your power of reasoning to get educated too about this issue?

The WTBTS has never endorsed or supported any political organization ever, let alone the UN.

This is a pure lie, that means you don't read about your organization history. Shortly after the establishment of the UN, WTBTS praised the formation:

"We cannot but admire the high principles embodied in the League of Nations... Truly this is idealistic, and approximates in a small way that which God has foretold that he will bring about after this great time of trouble." Watch Tower 1919 Feb 15 p.51

This is an evidence that WTBTS is in support of such idea.

The Society applied to get access to the UN Library for the general info and stats seen in articles of Awake and public Watchtower magazines.

This is where your lying liar organization provided HALF TRUTH to you people:

Firstly, getting access into UN library doesn't require any registrations not to talk of becoming AN ASSOCIATE NGO member.

"Since 1946, the Dag Hammarskjold Library of the United Nations Secretariat in New York has arranged for the distribution of United Nations documents and publications to users around the world through its depository library system. At present, there are more than 400 depository libraries in over 140 countries maintaining United Nations material from the date of designation as depository to the present. The general public can consult the material free of charge at any depository library." www.un.org/Depts/dhl/deplib/deplibsystem.htm

Since 1946 UN libraries of over 400 in 140 countries have been access free till today, where does WTBTS got the information that a registration is needed to access the library?



More importantly, there have been no changes to the requirement for NGO's being required to agree to "support" the ideals of the United Nations. This is stated in the following letter to an enquirer in 2002 and also a press release from 1992.



Secondly, as said shortly after the double standard of WTBTS was exposed by "Guidance Article" in 2001This was explained in an interview immediately following the Guardian article. The Watchtower spokesman in Portugal stated that United Nations registration was to assist gaining recognition in developing countries. In a newspaper interview on Saturday 20th October 2001, the Watchtowers Portuguese representative stated:

"Registration as a Non Governmental Organisation was only done because you can give humanitarian aid and protect human rights in various countries around the world," says the PUBLIC Pedro Candeias, spokesman for the Association of Jehovah's Witnesses in Portugal. In Portugal, however, a relaxation of registration is not yet known officially by the AJW, which represents nearly 50,000 believers.

The official says the religious group to which he belongs has had an "important role" in helping the populations of countries like Angola, Bosnia, Georgia, Rwanda and other African or Latin American. "Reaching out to these countries was complicated and therefore it was necessary to register" the WTBTS in the United Nations. But this registry, he says, did not compromise the Jehovah's Witnesses to "any political involvement" with the UN." (web.archive.org as of 24 June 2010 - translated with the assistance of Google Translate)


It was 2 days after this interview that the Watchtower changed its official position by releasing the October 22nd letter, contradicting the above statements and claiming it only applied for library access.

It's evident that WTBTS didn't apply because of the use of the library.

Thirdly, WTBTS so aware of this statement The opening paragraph of the 1991 application form, which the Watchtower was required to submit, contains an instruction to provide information yearly to the United Nations. It states;

" provide us with proof of your organizations non-profit status and with an annual report on its activities related to United Nations."




Fourthly, Watchtower was an associated NGO and to become associated required the Watchtower to accept the following:

1. that the NGO share the ideals of the UN Charter

2. have a demonstrated interest in United Nations issues and a proven ability to reach target or specialized audiences, such as educators, media representatives, policy makers and the business community;

3. have the commitment and means to conduct effective information programs about UN activities by publishing newsletters, bulletins and pamphlets, organizing conferences, seminars and round tables; and enlisting cooperation of the media.

Lastly, It was somewhat surprising when in the 1990s a number of complimentary articles were written praising the work of the United Nations.

One such of the article is where it was boldly written "WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED NATIONS DETERMINED..." Watchtower 1995 Oct 1 pg 3,7

In 1998, the Awake! discussed the topic of Human Rights, dedicating a number of pages to the United Nations.



The United Nations website referenced this Awake! at www.unhchr.ch/udhr/materials/articles.htm, giving good reason to believe it was one of the articles the Watchtower sent to the United Nations as part of its annual reporting requirement.



It was later brought to the Society's attention that the UN had changed their T&C's for those who had access to their libraries.

Can you provide us with UN T&C's before WTBTS became an associate and UN T&C's after they withdrew their registration?

The truth is no T&C's has been changed and it wasn't brought to the Society attention rather In 2001, the UK Guardian ran the introductory article that brought to light the Watchtower involvement with the United Nations, resulting in shock amongst many Jehovah's Witness. Two days later, the Watchtower Society indicated its guilt by withdrawing its UN membership.

It was the UK GUIDANCE article that exposed the double standard of Watchtower not about T&C's.

The new T&C's apparently contained new requirements which the Society reviewed and saw that the new conditions stated conflicted with Bible's standards.

Let's see this NEW T&C's first, so that we can compare it with the old one before WTBTS became associate.

And then they withdrew completely from the association because JW's will never compromise their neutrality for anything or anybody.

They will never compromise, you said above that they only became associate in other to use the library yet Watchtower Society makes use of UN airplane to provide aids to different countries. How come?

In the 1997 booklet Mission to Africa (Click for PDF download), Watchtower discusses how they took advantage of United Nations airplanes to distribute aid to Jehovah's Witnesses in the region. Page nine notes:

"The best form of travel, if not the only one, is the airplane. Often we used the H.C.R.'s (United Nations High Commission for Refugees) planes." Mission to Africa p.9


But as usual, apostates and all those attacking Jehovah's Witnesses will see any opportunity to latch onto anything they can find and spread half truths, leaving out vital information—showing that they themselves aren't honest.

When it is evident that it's WTBTS that left out vital information in other to continue to cage people like you and the said apostates and critics of Watchtower society are the ones who provided full details and truth.

This was the letter sent to all congregations


The same letter was sent to the "The UK Guidance"


Anyone having the “power of reason” (Romans 12:1) will examine all the facts without rushing to conclusion over what he knows little about.

Now, do you examine ALL THE FACTS without rushing to defend WTBTS?

So make no mistake, Em.usan, because Jehovah's Witnesses will never compromise their neutrality nor will they ever support ANY political organization whatsoever—even at the threat of death.

The evidence above says otherwise!

JW's will continue to heed Jesus' words to be “no part of the world”. John 17:14,16

Is Jesus' word in John 17:14,16 a command or prayer?
Re: Will We Ever Feel Safe And Secure? What Does The Bible Have To Say? by Emusan(m): 9:14am On Sep 26, 2020
Between 1990 and 2010, there has been a significant reduction in references to the United Nations in the Watchtower magazine.


Even more noticeable is the reduction in the number of times the United Nations is referred along with the term "wild beast" in the Watchtower.

Re: Will We Ever Feel Safe And Secure? What Does The Bible Have To Say? by DappaD: 10:26am On Sep 26, 2020

Emusan:

[s]I love the you address this issue in which you've shot yourself in the foot but trust me you'll still be defending your LYING organization.
Sorry, I used that word LYING because it's what I derived from your own post which are:
1. That Apostates and those who are attacking JWs are SPREADING HALF TRUTH
2. Anyone having the “power of reason” (Romans 12:1) will examine all the facts without rushing to conclusion over what he knows little about.
Which you didn't do but you want others to do it.
Actually, we who have power of reasoning have examined ALL THE FACTS but we realized that it was WTBTS that is SPREADING HALF TRUTH to cover their involvement with the UN and that WTBTS members lack power of reasoning (Romans 12:1) to examine the lies of cover up by WTBTS as I will expound below.
Thanks for the enlightenment but the question is; are you ready to use your power of reasoning to get educated too about this issue?
This is a pure lie, that means you don't read about your organization history. Shortly after the establishment of the UN, WTBTS praised the formation:[/s]

So it's Jehovah's Witnesses that's giving you sleepless nights abi? cheesy
Everyone can tell how you restless you are being right now lol.
So while others were enjoying their night, your own head was aching you because of JW's?
No wahala. grin

"We cannot but admire the high principles embodied in the League of Nations... Truly this is idealistic, and approximates in a small way that which God has foretold that he will bring about after this great time of trouble." Watch Tower 1919 Feb 15 p.51
This is an evidence that WTBTS is in support of such idea.

Nothing new to see here. The Bible students then were still rediscovering the truth from the Bible.
Just like how they celebrated Christmas and believed Jesus died on a cross. In time, the truth became clear regarding all these things. And old beliefs had to be abolished.
Can you show for me in any publication from 1931(when God's people adopted the name “Jehovah's Witnesses”) til now that holds on to the belief that League of Nations was to be God's instrument?
I thought we've gone past this stage of you digging out history and forcing it down other's throats—even when JW's will repeatedly tell you that all that was the former understanding.

“From September 18 to 20, 1942 , at the height of World War II, Jehovah’s Witnesses in the United States held their New World Theocratic Assembly. The key city, Cleveland, Ohio, was tied in by telephone with more than 50 other convention cities, for a peak attendance of 129,699. Where wartime conditions permitted, other conventions repeated the program around the world. At the time, many of Jehovah’s people expected that the war would escalate into God’s war of Armageddon; hence the title of the public talk, “Peace​—Can It Last?,” aroused much curiosity. How could the new president of the Watch Tower Society, N. H. Knorr, presume to talk about peace when the very opposite seemed to be in store for the nations? The reason was that the John class was paying “more than the usual attention” to God’s prophetic Word.​—Hebrews 2:1; 2 Peter 1:19. What light did the talk “Peace​—Can It Last?” throw on the prophecy? Clearly identifying the scarlet-colored wild beast of Revelation 17:3 as the League of Nations, N. H. Knorr went on to discuss its stormy career on the basis of the angel’s following words to John: “The wild beast that you saw was, but is not, and yet is about to ascend out of the abyss, and it is to go off into destruction.”​—Revelation 17:8a.
“The wild beast . . . was.” Yes, it had existed as the League of Nations from January 10, 1920, onward, with 63 nations participating at one time or another.
But, in turn, Japan, Germany, and Italy withdrew, and the former Soviet Union was dropped from the League. In September 1939 the Nazi dictator of Germany launched World War II.
Having failed to keep peace in the world, the League of Nations virtually plunged into an abyss of inactivity. By 1942 it had become a has-been. Neither before this nor at some later date​—but right at that critical time—​did Jehovah interpret to his people the full depth of meaning of the vision! At the New World Theocratic Assembly, N. H. Knorr could declare, in line with the prophecy, that “the wild beast is not.” He then asked the question, “Will the League remain in the pit?” Quoting Revelation 17:8, he answered: “The association of worldly nations will rise again.” That is just how it proved to be​—in vindication of Jehovah’s prophetic Word!” —Revelation Climax, Chapter 34 “An Awesome Mystery Solved”

You will have to be honest with yourself at one point in your life. Lies and twisting the truth won't save you.
So from 1942 onward, what has been the new understanding amongst JW's in line with God's word? Do they still cling to the belief the Bible students once had in 1919? Or have they moved on?
Emu.san, I tell you, that it takes humility to admit past mistakes and move on.
Something you might need to emulate. undecided


This is where your lying liar organization provided HALF TRUTH to you people:
Firstly, getting access into UN library doesn't require any registrations not to talk of becoming AN ASSOCIATE NGO member.
"Since 1946, the Dag Hammarskjold Library of the United Nations Secretariat in New York has arranged for the distribution of United Nations documents and publications to users around the world through its depository library system. At present, there are more than 400 depository libraries in over 140 countries maintaining United Nations material from the date of designation as depository to the present. The general public can consult the material free of charge at any depository library." www.un.org/Depts/dhl/deplib/deplibsystem.htm
Since 1946 UN libraries of over 400 in 140 countries have been access free till today, where does WTBTS got the information that a registration is needed to access the library?
Secondly, as said shortly after the double standard of WTBTS was exposed by "Guidance Article" in 2001 a WT spokesman in Portugal said:
"Registration as a Non Governmental Organisation was only done because you can give humanitarian aid and protect human rights in various countries around the world," says the PUBLIC Pedro Candeias, spokesman for the Association of Jehovah's Witnesses in Portugal. In Portugal, however, a relaxation of registration is not yet known officially by the AJW, which represents nearly 50,000 believers.
The official says the religious group to which he belongs has had an "important role" in helping the populations of countries like Angola, Bosnia, Georgia, Rwanda and other African or Latin American. "Reaching out to these countries was complicated and therefore it was necessary to register" the WTBTS in the United Nations. But this registry, he says, did not compromise the Jehovah's Witnesses to "any political involvement" with the UN." (web.archive.org as of 24 June 2010 - translated with the assistance of Google Translate)

It's evident that WTBTS didn't apply because of the use it the library.
Thirdly, WTBTS so aware of this statement The opening paragraph of the 1991 application form, which the Watchtower was required to submit, contains an instruction to provide information yearly to the United Nations. It states;
" provide us with proof of your organizations non-profit status and with an annual report on its activities related to United Nations."


Fourthly, Watchtower was an associated NGO and to become associated required the Watchtower to accept the following:
1. that the NGO share the ideals of the UN Charter
2. have a demonstrated interest in United Nations issues and a proven ability to reach target or specialized audiences, such as educators, media representatives, policy makers and the business community;
3. have the commitment and means to conduct effective information programs about UN activities by publishing newsletters, bulletins and pamphlets, organizing conferences, seminars and round tables; and enlisting cooperation of the media.
Lastly, It was somewhat surprising when in the 1990s a number of complimentary articles were written praising the work of the United Nations.

Lol. What does all this random information have to do with anything? Perhaps you thought when posting all of this, you'd gain some kind of cred lmao. Or whether I'll be overwhelmed by such irrelevant information. You can see how mistaken you've been this whole time.


One such of the article is where it was boldly written "WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED NATIONS DETERMINED..." Watchtower 1995 Oct 1 pg 3,7

Why not complete the statement there na? Or are you scared it will reveal that the statement was quoted and that you'll be exposed as dishonest?

This is the complete statement:
“WE THE PEOPLES OF THE UNITED NATIONS DETERMINED to save succeeding generations from the scourge of war, which twice in our lifetime has brought untold sorrow to mankind, and to reaffirm faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person, in the equal rights of men and women and of nations large and small, . . .”​—
Preamble to the charter of the United Nations

So can you see the statement was quoted and has nothing to do with Jehovah's Witnesses? undecided
At least those reading this know who's being double-tongued here.


In 1998, the Awake! discussed the topic of Human Rights, dedicating a number of pages to the United Nations.
Like all the general info you see in other Awake mags. Nothing new to see here.




The United Nations website referenced this Awake! at www.unhchr.ch/udhr/materials/articles.htm, giving good reason to believe it was one of the articles the Watchtower sent to the United Nations as part of its annual reporting requirement.

Can you provide us with UN T&C's before WTBTS became an associate and UN T&C's after they withdrew their registration?
The truth is no T&C's has been changed and it wasn't brought to the Society attention rather In 2001, the UK Guardian ran the introductory article that brought to light the Watchtower involvement with the United Nations, resulting in shock amongst many Jehovah's Witness. Two days later, the Watchtower Society indicated its guilt by withdrawing its UN membership.
It was the UK GUIDANCE article that exposed the double standard of Watchtower not about T&C's.
Let's see this NEW T&C's first, so that we can compare it with the old one before WTBTS became associate.
They will never compromise, you said above that they only became associate in other to use the library yet Watchtower Society makes use of UN airplane to provide aids to different countries. How come?
In the 1997 booklet Mission to Africa (Click for PDF download), Watchtower discusses how they took advantage of United Nations airplanes to distribute aid to Jehovah's Witnesses in the region. Page nine notes:
"The best form of travel, if not the only one, is the airplane. Often we used the H.C.R.'s (United Nations High Commission for Refugees) planes." Mission to Africa p.9

When it is evident that it's WTBTS that left out vital information in other to continue to cage people like you and the said apostates and critics of Watchtower society are the ones who provided full details and truth.

Lol. All this noise and you can't point to one single source that says Jehovah's Witnesses were supporting the UN. Lol
Posting irrelevant info thinking it would give you some kind of cred. You're clearly mistaken lol.
Just show us any document where WTBTS pledged allegiance to the UN and cut the c.rap


This was the letter sent to all congregations

The same letter was sent to the "The UK Guidance"


So after gallivanting around the whole place, you arrive at the letters that counters ALL your supposed “evidence”?
Is it not evident from these letters that your exercise was fruitless? angry


Now, do you examine ALL THE FACTS without rushing to defend WTBTS?
So in your village, beating around the bush is known as presenting “FACTS” ?
Nawaoh! undecided
Just show us one signed document where WTBTS pledged allegiance to the UN or any other political organization and stop twisting the meaning of the access WTBTS had to the UN library to fit your own selfish interest.


The evidence above says otherwise!
“Evidence” is quoting from 1,001 unreliable sources when you can't come to one definite conclusion?
Perhaps the meaning of “evidence” changed in the past decade. angry


Is Jesus' word in John 17:14,16 a command or prayer?
Command, prayer, anyone you like.
If it's command you want to see, read John 15:17-20
If it's prayer you want to see kwa, read John 17:14,16
Nothing spoil lipsrsealed

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Re: Will We Ever Feel Safe And Secure? What Does The Bible Have To Say? by Emusan(m): 1:03pm On Sep 26, 2020
DappaD:
[s]So it's Jehovah's Witnesses that's giving you sleepless nights abi? cheesy
Everyone can tell how you restless you are being right now lol.
So while others were enjoying their night, your own head was aching you because of JW's?
No wahala. grin[/s]

Tactics to deviate from the key point.

Nothing new to see here. The Bible students then were still rediscovering the truth from the Bible.
Just like how they celebrated Christmas and believed Jesus died on a cross. In time, the truth became clear regarding all these things. And old beliefs had to be abolished.

Smile....OLD BELIEFS HAD TO BE ABOLISHED

By who?

So they died without knowing the TRUTH...Jehovah witness 7 wonders


Can you show for me in any publication from 1931(when God's people adopted the name “Jehovah's Witnesses”) til now that holds on to the belief that League of Nations was to be God's instrument?

So despite the fact that Jesus started teaching Russell's and his pagan team as at 1914 they still hold on to wrong teaching.

I thought we've gone past this stage of you digging out history and forcing it down other's throats—even when JW's will repeatedly tell you that all that was the former understanding.

because history is so important which is the reason you still believe in 1914 hoax, it's either Russell and his team were correct for all what they taught and died in and today's witnesses are wrong OR Russell was wrong which then makes date 1914 false and today's witnesses are correct.

[s]“From September 18 to 20, 1942 , at the height of World War II, Jehovah’s Witnesses in the United States held their New World Theocratic Assembly. The key city, Cleveland, Ohio, was tied in by telephone with more than 50 other convention cities, for a peak attendance of 129,699. Where wartime conditions permitted, other conventions repeated the program around the world. At the time, many of Jehovah’s people expected that the war would escalate into God’s war of Armageddon; hence the title of the public talk, “Peace​—Can It Last?,” aroused much curiosity. How could the new president of the Watch Tower Society, N. H. Knorr, presume to talk about peace when the very opposite seemed to be in store for the nations? The reason was that the John class was paying “more than the usual attention” to God’s prophetic Word.​—Hebrews 2:1; 2 Peter 1:19. What light did the talk “Peace​—Can It Last?” throw on the prophecy? Clearly identifying the scarlet-colored wild beast of Revelation 17:3 as the League of Nations, N. H. Knorr went on to discuss its stormy career on the basis of the angel’s following words to John: “The wild beast that you saw was, but is not, and yet is about to ascend out of the abyss, and it is to go off into destruction.”​—Revelation 17:8a.
“The wild beast . . . was.” Yes, it had existed as the League of Nations from January 10, 1920, onward, with 63 nations participating at one time or another.
But, in turn, Japan, Germany, and Italy withdrew, and the former Soviet Union was dropped from the League. In September 1939 the Nazi dictator of Germany launched World War II.
Having failed to keep peace in the world, the League of Nations virtually plunged into an abyss of inactivity. By 1942 it had become a has-been. Neither before this nor at some later date​—but right at that critical time—​did Jehovah interpret to his people the full depth of meaning of the vision! At the New World Theocratic Assembly, N. H. Knorr could declare, in line with the prophecy, that “the wild beast is not.” He then asked the question, “Will the League remain in the pit?” Quoting Revelation 17:8, he answered: “The association of worldly nations will rise again.” That is just how it proved to be​—in vindication of Jehovah’s prophetic Word!” —Revelation Climax, Chapter 34 “An Awesome Mystery Solved”[/s]

Did WTBTS support the creation of UN?

The answer is YES!

You will have to be honest with yourself at one point in your life. Lies and twisting the truth won't save you.

You're the most dishonest person here after facts are presented to you and you're still denying them.

So from 1942 onward, what has been the new understanding amongst JW's in line with God's word? Do they still cling to the belief the Bible students once had in 1919? Or have they moved on?
Emu.san, I tell you, that it takes humility to admit past mistakes and move on.
Something you might need to emulate. undecided

It means the teachings then are just pure human philosophy as in guessing works which turned out to be false.

Lol. What does all this random information have to do with anything? Perhaps you thought when posting all of this, you'd gain some kind of cred lmao. Or whether I'll be overwhelmed by such irrelevant information. You can see how mistaken you've been this whole time.

The random information has many things to do with WTBTS lies:

1. It provides undeniable fact that UN LIBRARIES don't require ANY REGISTRATION before public can make use them. which WTBTS lied that, that was the reason to associate with UN.

2. That there's no single CHANGE to UN carter which makes WTBTS to withdraw their registration.

3. It shows that WTBTS truly know what they are doing because the form given to them fill contains information that can make them to reject it.

4. There's no how WTBTS will become associate member without reading this "that the NGO share the ideals of the UN Charter" and went ahead to accept the offer.

In line of this, WTBTS provided HALF TRUTH(LIES) to their members


Why not complete the statement there na? Or are you scared it will reveal that the statement was quoted and that you'll be exposed as dishonest?

This is the complete statement:
“WE THE PEOPLES OF THE UNITED NATIONS DETERMINED to save succeeding generations from the scourge of war, which twice in our lifetime has brought untold sorrow to mankind, and to reaffirm faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person, in the equal rights of men and women and of nations large and small, . . .”​—
Preamble to the charter of the United Nations

So can you see the statement was quoted and has nothing to do with Jehovah's Witnesses? undecided
At least those reading this know who's been double-tongued here.

The quote is to show how WTBTS begins to speak good of UN, it was boldly written by me.

Like all the general info you see in other Awake mags. Nothing new to see here.

Many NEW THINGS to see

I don't know the reason why the attached chats didn't display.

The chat shows that "Between 1990 and 2010, there has been a significant reduction in references to the United Nations in the Watchtower magazine.

Even more noticeable is the reduction in the number of times the United Nations is referred along with the term "wild beast" in the Watchtower."

Lol. All this noise and you can't point to one single source that says Jehovah's Witnesses were supporting the UN. Lol
Posting irrelevant info thinking it would give you some kind of cred. You're clearly mistaken lol.
Just show us any document where WTBTS pledged allegiance to the UN and cut the c.rap

But they made use of UN airplanes, how do you think that is possible without any support from WTBTS?

I've showed you from horse mouth itself where WTBTS commended the usage of UN airplanes, only a clo.wn will think such will come without allegiance.

Truly, dishonesty runs in your blood.

Reason you can't provide the UN T&C's before WTBTS became member and after.

So after gallivanting around the whole place, you arrive at the letters that counters ALL your supposed “evidence”?
Is it not evident from these letters that your exercise was fruitless? angry

Honest people reading my post know the reason of attaching the letter:

1. That WTBTS boldly lied to world that registration is required to have access to UN libraries which is the reason of attaching the UN response that clarified that no registration is required.

2. WTBTS lied again in the same letter that changing in UN support forced them to withdraw their membership, which I also provided evidence from UN that nothing has changed from their charter.

3. As you early lied that it was brought to WTBTS attention that UN T&C's have changed is the reason for the withdrawal, the LETTER sent to the "The UK Guidance" confirmed that, it was article written in 2001 that exposed them not because of T&C's.

All these three points are enough to show, you and your organization are chronic liars.

[s]So in your village, beating around the bush is known as presenting “FACTS” ?
Nawaoh! undecided
Just show us one signed document where WTBTS pledged allegiance to the UN or any other political organization and stop twisting the meaning of the access WTBTS had to the UN library to fit your own selfish interest.[/s]

They are many like:

The Watchtower regularly sends representatives to annual conferences of the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE). A person repeatedly attending these political events is Mr. Marcel Gillet

Stop lying about the UN libraries I've debunked that lies.

The Jehovah's witness representation from Portugal says it all.

“Evidence” is quoting from 1,001 unreliable sources when you can't come to one definite conclusion?
Perhaps the meaning of “evidence” changed in the past decade. angry

Only a dishonest person and a slave of 8 men in USA like you won't see the undeniable evidences here.

Command, prayer, anyone you like.
If it's command you want to see, read John 15:17-20
If it's prayer you want to see kwa, read John 17:14,16
Nothing spoil lipsrsealed

Dull head, he couldn't answer the simple question!
Re: Will We Ever Feel Safe And Secure? What Does The Bible Have To Say? by DappaD: 2:22pm On Sep 26, 2020

Emusan:

Tactics to deviate from the key point.

So you admit Jehovah's Witnesses give you sleepless nights, hmm? grin


Smile....OLD BELIEFS HAD TO BE ABOLISHED
By who?
So they died without knowing the TRUTH...Jehovah witness 7 wonders

The Christians in the first century who discarded the law of Moses nkor?
All those who died before Jesus' time, are they all condemned or will they be resurrected to learn the truth? (Acts 24:15) undecided
Oga Emus.an, change is constant. grin(Proverbs 4:18 )
You either go with the flow or you find your way out.



So despite the fact that Jesus started teaching Russell's and his pagan team as at 1914 they still hold on to wrong teaching.

Russell this Russell that. Boy are you a hard nut to crack. angry
Please look for something new to cry about. embarassed



because history is so important which is the reason you still believe in 1914 hoax, it's either Russell and his team were correct for all what they taught and died in and today's witnesses are wrong OR Russell was wrong which then makes date 1914 false and today's witnesses are correct.

For your information and we'll continue sounding it, Jesus Christ became King in 1914 and ousted Satan from heaven!(Revelation 12:7-10)
That will never change!


Did WTBTS support the creation of UN?
The answer is YESNO!
Leave too much talk.
Just show a written agreement signed by both parties that says the WTBTS supported the UN let's end the argument. undecided


You're the most dishonest person here after facts are presented to you and you're still denying them.

No be only dishonest.
You who is picking up unreliable info from apostate sources and passing them off as legit info is now the honest person abi? undecided


It means the teachings then are just pure human philosophy as in guessing works which turned out to be false.

Wetin concern JW's and the opinion of Emusa.n? undecided
Jehovah's Witnesses choose to have their own opinions from the Bible regards who God and Jesus are, style of worship etc
But Emu.san is angry because this set of people choose to exercise their own free will? undecided



The random information has many things to do with WTBTS lies:
1. It provides undeniable fact that UN LIBRARIES don't require ANY REGISTRATION before public can make use them. which WTBTS lied that, that was the reason to associate with UN.
2. That there's no single CHANGE to UN carter which makes WTBTS to withdraw their registration.
In line of this, WTBTS provided HALF TRUTH(LIES) to their members



But you've not been able to provide a written and signed document of the supposed alliance WTBTS had with the UN? undecided
Please careful before you hurt yourself one day because of JWs


The quote is to show how WTBTS begins to speak good of UN, it was boldly written by me.

Now, are you being completely honest, ehn Emusa.n? grin
For a start, the topic of that particular page is “Fifty Years of Frustrated Efforts” exposing the UN to be ineffective in all they've claimed to achieve. Please go and read it for yourself before you arrive at baseless conclusions.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1995720



Many NEW THINGS to see
I don't know the reason why the attached chats didn't display.
You don't mean it. shocked
Maybe you'll accuse JWs of having something to do with it too, since it's your usual hobby? grin



The chat shows that "Between 1990 and 2010, there has been a significant reduction in references to the United Nations in the Watchtower magazine.
Even more noticeable is the reduction in the number of times the United Nations is referred along with the term "wild beast" in the Watchtower."


Oh wow, I didn't know that we're supposed to be keeping record of the number of times the UN is designated as being the scarlet-coloured wild beast in the Watchtower mags.


But they made use of UN airplanes, how do you think that is possible without any support from WTBTS?

Jehovah God said his servants “will actually drink the milk of nations”—Isaiah 60:16
So don't bother yourself ehn, it had already been foretold that JWs(Gods people) will make use of the world's resources and technology to advance pure worship. grin


I've showed you from horse mouth itself where WTBTS commended the usage of UN, only a clo.wn will think such will come without allegiance.
Truly, dishonesty runs in your blood.

So if I speak good about somebody, it suddenly means I share and support the person's ideologies? shocked
Wow, just wow!




Honest people reading my post know the reason of attaching the letter:
1. That WTBTS boldly lied to world that registration is required to have access to UN libraries which is the reason of attaching the UN response that clarified that no registration is required.
2. WTBTS lied again in the same letter that changing in UN support forced them to withdraw their membership, which I also provided evidence from UN that nothing has changed from their carter.
3. As you early lied that it was brought to WTBTS attention that UN T&C's have changed is the reason for the withdrawal, the LETTER sent to the "The UK Guidance" confirmed that, it was article written in 2001 that exposed them not because of T&C's.
All these three points are enough to show you and your organization are chronic liars.


Lol. Somebody like you who has dedicated his life to malign Jehovah and his organization—what will honest people want to read from your post again?
Won't they see how desperate you're being? grin


They are many just wait.
Stop lying about the UN libraries I've debunked that lies.
The Jehovah's witness representation from Portugal says it all.

If you like, quote from all the unreliable sources there are in the world.
Once you cannot provide a written and signed document of the WTBTS having ties/alliances with the UN, your exercise is rendered fruitless. grin


Only a dishonest person and a slave of 8 men in USA like you won't see the undeniable evidences here.
No wahala. At least the people reading this can identify me as a Jehovah's Witness. But who can they identify E.musan as? embarassed embarassed
Do you have an origin anywhere? embarassed
Pathetic embarassed


Dull head, he couldn't answer the simple question!

Ehn now.
When you know your aim wasn't achieved, the next thing is to resort to childish insults. undecided
Perhaps I'm conversing with a 20-year old child. undecided

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Re: Will We Ever Feel Safe And Secure? What Does The Bible Have To Say? by Emusan(m): 9:54pm On Sep 26, 2020
Your plot to divert attention from the main point won't succeed.

DappaD:
So you admit Jehovah's Witnesses give you sleepless nights, hmm? grin

Another childish act begins, says the person who joined Nairaland not up to 4 months but already have more than 1,000 posts.

Leave too much talk.
Just show a written agreement signed by both parties that says the WTBTS supported the UN let's end the argument. undecided

1. I've provided the form everybody who became an associate member of UN NGO filled

2. WTBTS made used of UN airplanes several times!

No be only dishonest.
You who is picking up unreliable info from apostate sources and passing them off as legit info is now the honest person abi? undecided

Unreliable yet you haven't produced your own reliable info.

I ask you:
1. Where is the evidence that registration is required to make use of any UN libraries as WTBTS claimed in the letter?

2. Where is the evidence that UN charter for support was AMENDED that leads to the withdrawal of WTBTS registration?

You can't provide any just because there is none.

Yet the so called apostates furnished you with the documents from UN that no registration was required and no change to their Charter.

And you're still in self denial.

But you've not been able to provide a written and signed document of the supposed alliance WTBTS had with the UN? undecided
Please careful before you hurt yourself one day because of JWs

Just tell us WTBTS didn't fill any form before becoming associate member.

Only a self denial and deluded person will think there's no agreement before WTBTS can make use of UN airplanes.

Jehovah God said his servants “will actually drink the milk of nations”—Isaiah 60:16
So don't bother yourself ehn, it had already been foretold that JWs(Gods people) will make use of the world's resources and technology to advance pure worship. grin

So the milk of the nations that Jehovah servants will drink is that of the WILD BEAST of revelation. Kudos!

So if I speak good about somebody, it suddenly means I share and support the person's ideologies? shocked
Wow, just wow!

Your lying liar organization started singing the praises of the UN when it became associate member and started benefiting from the UN, that is why the calling of UN the WILD BEAST of revelation suddenly reduced in 90's

If you like, quote from all the unreliable sources there are in the world.
Once you cannot provide a written and signed document of the WTBTS having ties/alliances with the UN, your exercise is rendered fruitless. grin

Can you provide from your reliable sources, where UN demanded registration for the use of her libraries?

Can you provide from your reliable sources, where UN made changes to her charter of support?

The key points here are:
1. No registration was required by UN from anybody before making use of UN libraries
2. UN never made any changes to her charter.

In a nutshell, WTBTS lied in that letter and most importantly you're affected by that lies to have also said it was brought to their attention when in reality it was when an article from "The UK GUIDANCE" that exposed their dubious act which made a watchtower spokesman from Portugal spoke on radio interview and two days later, WTBTS withdrew her membership.
Re: Will We Ever Feel Safe And Secure? What Does The Bible Have To Say? by tobechi74: 10:53pm On Sep 26, 2020
World governor is good. Cooperation. Do you want division
Re: Will We Ever Feel Safe And Secure? What Does The Bible Have To Say? by DappaD: 11:18pm On Sep 26, 2020


Emusan:

[s]our plot to divert attention from the main point won't succeed.
Another childish act begins, says the person who joined Nairaland not up to 4 months but already have more than 1,000 posts.
1. I've provided the form everybody who became an associate member of UN NGO filled
2. WTBTS made used of UN airplanes several times!
Unreliable yet you haven't produced your own reliable info.
I ask you:
1. Where is the evidence that registration is required to make use of any UN libraries as WTBTS claimed in the letter?
2. Where is the evidence that UN charter for support was AMENDED that leads to the withdrawal of WTBTS registration?
You can't provide any just because there is none.
Yet the so called apostates furnished you with the documents from UN that no registration was required and no change to their Charter.
And you're still in self denial.
Just tell us WTBTS didn't fill any form before becoming associate member.
Only a self denial and deluded person will think there's no agreement before WTBTS can make use of UN airplanes.
So the milk of the nations that Jehovah servants will drink is that of the WILD BEAST of revelation. Kudos!
Your lying liar organization started singing the praises of the UN when it became associate member and started benefiting from the UN, that is why the calling of UN the WILD BEAST of revelation suddenly reduced in 90's
Can you provide from your reliable sources, where UN demanded registration for the use of her libraries?
Can you provide from your reliable sources, where UN made changes to her charter of support?
The key points here are:
1. No registration was required by UN from anybody before making use of UN libraries
2. UN never made any changes to her charter.
In a nutshell, WTBTS lied in that letter and most importantly you're affected by that lies to have also said it was brought to their attention when in reality it was when an article from "The UK GUIDANCE" that exposed their dubious act which made a watchtower spokesman from Portugal spoke on radio interview and two days later, WTBTS withdrew her membership. [/s]

Nawao I didn't ask all these.
You were given one simple task. angry



DappaD:

Just show a written agreement signed by both parties that says the WTBTS supported the UN, let's end the argument.


Once you cannot provide a written and signed document of the WTBTS having ties/alliances with the UN, your exercise is rendered fruitless.
Re: Will We Ever Feel Safe And Secure? What Does The Bible Have To Say? by orunto27: 11:39pm On Sep 26, 2020
SOME WORLD BODIES ARE PLAYING GOD ALREADY. THIS IS ACTUALLY GOOD IF ONLY THOSE BODIES KNOW THAT GOD, THE ALMIGHTY SUPREME SPIRIT IS SECURITY SAFETY AND SUCCESS. LIKE WISDOM KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING WHICH THE BIBLE TELLS US TO PRAY FOR IF WE WANT THEM, SO WE MUST PRAY ALSO FOR SECURITY SAFETY AND SUCCESS FROM GOD.

The Vassine for Covid19 is already known to those who God loves
Re: Will We Ever Feel Safe And Secure? What Does The Bible Have To Say? by Emusan(m): 1:16pm On Sep 27, 2020
DappaD:


Nawao I didn't ask all these.
You were given one simple task. angry




The undeniable truth is that WTBTS registered as NGO under DPI of UN and to be an NGO you must fill this form









And at the top of this form was written: "provide us with proof of your organizations non-profit status and with an annual report on its activities related to United Nations."




The tasks you're still running away from are:

1. Provide us with your reliable sources that UN required registration before using any of their libraries.

2. Provide us with your reliable sources that UN made changes to their Charter that leads to WTBTS withdrawal of their registration.

3. Who brought into the attention of WTBTS the change in UN T&C's as you early claimed.

At least I've provided documents directly from UN that show no registration is required for the usage of any of their libraries and no changes were done to their charter. Likewise, the article published in 2001 by "The UK Guidance" that exposed the double standard of WTBTS, which is even the reason WTBTS wrote a personal letter to "The UK Guidance"

In all these, you haven't provided a single document to counter the apostates rather than ranting up and down.
Re: Will We Ever Feel Safe And Secure? What Does The Bible Have To Say? by DappaD: 1:21pm On Sep 27, 2020



Emusan


[s]
The undeniable truth is that WTBTS registered as NGO under DPI of UN and to be an NGO you must fill this form
[img]https://jwfacts.com/images/un-1991-application-p1.jpg[/img...
[img]https://jwfacts.com/images/un-1991-application-p2.jpg[/img...
[img]https://jwfacts.com/images/un-1991-application-p3.jpg[/img...
[img]https://jwfacts.com/images/un-1991-application-p4.jpg[/img...
And at the top of this form was written: "provide us with proof of your organizations non-profit status and with an annual report on is activities related to United Nations."


The tasks you're still running away from are:
1. Provide us with your reliable sources that UN required registration before using any of their libraries.
2. Provide us with your reliable sources that UN made changes to their Charter that leads to WTBTS withdrawal of their registration.
3. Who brought into the attention of WTBTS the change in UN T&C's as you early claimed.
At least I've provided documents directly from UN that show no registration is required for the usage of any of their libraries and no changes were done to their charter. Likewise, the article published in 2001 by "The UK Guidance" that exposed the double standard of WTBTS, which is even the reason WTBTS wrote a personal letter to "The UK Guidance"
In all these, you haven't provided a single document to counter the apostates rather than ranting up and down.[/s]


Let's keep going around in circles.


DappaD:

Just show a written agreement signed by both parties that says the WTBTS supported the UN, let's end the argument.


Once you cannot provide a written and signed document of the WTBTS having ties/alliances with the UN, your exercise is rendered fruitless.
Re: Will We Ever Feel Safe And Secure? What Does The Bible Have To Say? by achorladey: 2:54pm On Sep 27, 2020
Emusan:


The undeniable truth is that WTBTS registered as NGO under DPI of UN and to be an NGO you must fill this form









And at the top of this form was written: "provide us with proof of your organizations non-profit status and with an annual report on its activities related to United Nations."




The tasks you're still running away from are:

1. Provide us with your reliable sources that UN required registration before using any of their libraries.

2. Provide us with your reliable sources that UN made changes to their Charter that leads to WTBTS withdrawal of their registration.

3. Who brought into the attention of WTBTS the change in UN T&C's as you early claimed.

At least I've provided documents directly from UN that show no registration is required for the usage of any of their libraries and no changes were done to their charter. Likewise, the article published in 2001 by "The UK Guidance" that exposed the double standard of WTBTS, which is even the reason WTBTS wrote a personal letter to "The UK Guidance"

In all these, you haven't provided a single document to counter the apostates rather than ranting up and down.



When you look back at this words when he started this discussion with you written in bold below, one will think you are in a discussion with a Professor Emeritus.


Mr Emus.an, perhaps I should educate you—so you don't keep making this mistake


But here he is struggling and willing to go in circles grin grin grin Someone or an individual that want to indeed educate another person.
Re: Will We Ever Feel Safe And Secure? What Does The Bible Have To Say? by Emusan(m): 4:13pm On Sep 27, 2020
achorladey:


When you look back at this words when he started this discussion with you written in bold below, one will think you are in a discussion with a Professor Emeritus.


Mr Emus.an, perhaps I should educate you—so you don't keep making this mistake


But here he is struggling and willing to go in circles grin grin grin Someone or an individual that want to indeed educate another person.




I wonder ooo

You can see how he was struggling indeed!

Till now, I'm still waiting for him to provide just a document where UN makes registration compulsory for gaining access into any of her libraries.

Someone who wants to educate me, first agreed WTBTS registration with UN but when UN T&C's change WTBTS back out.

Now he's asking me to provide WRITING AGREEMENT between the two parties!
Re: Will We Ever Feel Safe And Secure? What Does The Bible Have To Say? by DappaD: 5:16pm On Sep 27, 2020

Emusan:


I wonder ooo
You can see how he was struggling indeed!
Till now, I'm still waiting for him to provide just a document where UN makes registration compulsory for gaining access into any of her libraries.
Someone who wants to educate me, first agreed WTBTS registration with UN but when UN T&C's change WTBTS back out.
Now he's asking me to provide WRITING AGREEMENT between the two parties!



So you've not been able to provide any reasonable evidence so far? undecided
Ok oo case closed.

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Re: Will We Ever Feel Safe And Secure? What Does The Bible Have To Say? by Emusan(m): 10:14pm On Sep 27, 2020
DappaD:
[s]So you've not been able to provide any reasonable evidence so far? undecided
Ok oo case closed. [/s]

I've provided every evidences that:

1. UN doesn't require any registration before anyone make use of her libraries
2. UN didn't make any change to her charter

So the LETTER sent by WTBTS to congregation and The UK Guidance claiming UN demanded for registration before using her libraries and changes in her charter that led to withdrawal of registration is a lie.

Now, since you agreed that WTBTS applied for the usage of the UN library, it's you who need to provide the APPLICATION so that we can see the content.
Re: Will We Ever Feel Safe And Secure? What Does The Bible Have To Say? by DappaD: 11:15pm On Sep 27, 2020

Emusan:


I've provided every evidences that:
1. UN doesn't require any registration before anyone make use of her libraries
2. UN didn't make any change to her charter
So the LETTER sent by WTBTS to congregation and The UK Guidance claiming UN demanded for registration before using her libraries and changes in her charter that led to withdrawal of registration is a lie.
Now, since you agreed that WTBTS applied for the usage of the UN library, it's you who need to provide the APPLICATION so that we can see the content.


Okay so I won't keep replying to you anymore.
Have fun with your scavenger hunt.
Re: Will We Ever Feel Safe And Secure? What Does The Bible Have To Say? by Emusan(m): 6:54am On Sep 28, 2020
DappaD:
[s]Okay so I won't keep replying to you anymore.
Have fun with your scavenger hunt.[/s]

This is for you

Now, since you agreed that WTBTS applied for the usage of the UN library, it's you who need to provide the APPLICATION WTBTS submitted let's see the content.

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