muykem:
Supreme court statement on a candidate participated in two political parties primary for the same election will be tested.

Yes although I believe they meant taking part in primaries but this case will make them to rule clearly

fergie001:

Look @ the case very well & tell me what you see.

You may not agree with me but it seems obaseki lied on oath firstly according to ADP.
Secondly,they are claiming that he forged his bsc.I dont think they can prove this.
Thirdly,they are claiming that he never attended primary school having not indicated so in the inec personal form.

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garfield1:
You may not agree with me but it seems obaseki lied on oath firstly according to ADP.
Secondly,they are claiming that he forged his bsc.I dont think they can prove this.
Thirdly,they are claiming that he never attended primary school having not indicated so in the inec personal form.

I will react to all of this later....these cannot remove Obaseki.

All the same,
Look @ the Counsels to the petitioners.
Why did they add the 4th & 5th respondents (APC & Obaseki)?
Did they have any bearing on this case?

garfield1:


Yes although I believe they meant taking part in primaries but this case will make them to rule clearly

Supreme Court has decided this case already nah........

FarahAideed:
See the angle Oshiomole is coming through

How does this concern oshiomhole

fergie001:

Supreme Court has decided this case already nah........

When? In imo,they said double nomination.they didn't really specify or explain it in details but it won't hold water

fergie001:

I will react to all of this later....these cannot remove Obaseki.

All the same,
Look @ the Counsels to the petitioners.
Why did they add the 4th & 5th respondents (APC & Obaseki)?
Did they have any bearing on this case?

Decisions reached here automatically kills the pre-election case where the APC stands a better chance.

Look againnnnnn....this time very well.

It must be a mistake and will not affect the case.they will simply strike out their names.dont forget the pre election case of apc will be judged before that of ADP

garfield1:


When? In imo,they said double nomination.they didn't really specify or explain it in details but it won't hold water

Issues of nomination and sponsorship of candidates are pre-election matters and the tribunal is divested from handling same.

The case was decided in Tarzoor v Ortom, Jan 15 2016

Ortom had participated in the December 2014 PDP primaries and finished third. He resigned and then defected to the APC where he was a consensus candidate, contested and won the election.

The SC held inter alia...that Tarzoor (PDP candidate) had no right to institute the case as only APC members who participated in the Primaries could institute same.

The SC then added that Ortom had RESIGNED before defection and had no Problem.

garfield1:


It must be a mistake and will not affect the case.they will simply strike out their names.dont forget the pre election case of apc will be judged before that of ADP

How are you sure it will be decided first?
It wasn't an abuse of Court process.

fergie001:

Issues of nomination and sponsorship of candidates are pre-election matters and the tribunal is divested from handling same.

The case was decided in Tarzoor v Ortom, Jan 15 2016

Ortom had participated in the December 2014 PDP primaries and finished third. He resigned and then defected to the APC where he was a consensus candidate, contested and won the election.

The SC held inter alia...that Tarzoor (PDP candidate) had no right to institute the case as only APC members who participated in the Primaries could institute same.

The SC then added that Ortom had RESIGNED before defection and had no Problem.

Yes it may be pre election matters but dont forget that in recent judgment,the apex court have agreed that the primaries of a party can also be challenged by other parties

garfield1:


Yes it may be pre election matters but dont forget that in recent judgment,the apex court have agreed that the primaries of a party can also be challenged by other parties

Not in a tribunal and not against the Primaries but against the nomination & in a regular Court like APP v Uche Nwosu.

The second reason as in Ortom kills the case against ADP.

This is the link:
https://nigerialii.org/ng/judgment/supreme-court/2016/131

fergie001:

How are you sure it will be decided first?
It wasn't an abuse of Court process.

The pre election cases were filed first and judgment will likely be given before next year while the tribunal will elapse in 6 months time

garfield1:
The pre election cases were filed first and judgment will likely be given before next year while the tribunal will elapse in 6 months time

What about a pre-election matter....It is also 6 months.
A tribunal is sui generis

fergie001:

Not in a tribunal and not against the Primaries but against the nomination & in a regular Court like APP v Uche Nwosu.

We are saying the same thing. You can see how I discountenanced that particular prayer.I focus on the allegations of forgery

garfield1:


We are saying the same thing. You can see how I discountenanced that particular prayer.I focus on the allegations of forgery

That is the only live issue here.

Alleged FORGED CERTIFICATE.

Is this the hand of Esau?

APC in disguise. I see una hand

Exercise in futility.

fergie001:

What about a pre-election matter....It is also 6 months.
A tribunal is sui generis

There is no point arguing this.apc filed around July/august.high courts do not waste time on pre election matters.in bayelsa,judgment was given within three months in Lyon case.I calculate that judgment will be given before January

fergie001:
That is the only live issue here.
FORGED CERTIFICATE.

Was the certificate forged?

garfield1:


There is no point arguing this.apc filed around July/august.high courts do not waste time on pre election matters.in bayelsa,judgment was given within three months.I calculate that judgment will be given before January

You were very very very correct here, what was I thinking?

Unigrad:

Was the certificate forged?

I am not the one to determine that.....the onus is on the petitioner to prove beyond any reasonable doubt.

fergie001:

I am not the one to determine that.....the onus is on the petitioner to prove beyond any reasonable doubt.

You are a Barrister?

Unigrad:

You are a Barrister?

Not @ all.

fergie001:

That is the only live issue here.

FORGED CERTIFICATE.

I have no more interest in edo elections.I dont care whether obaseki is sacked or not but we must deal with this dispassionately...

In saner climes,obaseki will be removed.it is clear that he lied on oath and him not filling the form for primary school simply means that he did not attend any...
But the court will again contradict itself and find a way to save him by claiming that lying on oath is not a ground for disq according to the constitution and that as far as he has ssce,he is qualified whether he attended primary school or not....so no point bothering ourselves with this case

fergie001:

I am not the one to determine that.....the onus is on the petitioner to prove beyond any reasonable doubt.

And forgery case being a criminal case,the court will also claim that the case wasnt proven sufficiently.I am more interested in what apc has on shuaibu

garfield1:


I have no more interest in edo elections.I dont care whether obaseki is sacked or not but we must deal with this dispassionately...

In saner climes,obaseki will be removed.it is clear that he lied on oath and him not filling the form for primary school simply means that he did not attend any...
But the court will again contradict itself and find a way to save him by claiming that lying on oath is not a ground for disq according to the constitution and that as far as he has ssce,he is qualified whether he attended primary school or not....so no point bothering ourselves with this case

Painful but true.
You have said it all.

Agi v PDP 2016
Atiku v Buhari 2019
Akinlade v Abiodun
Useni v Lalong

Anyone who have judiciously followed these cases know where this will end.

garfield1:


And forgery case being a criminal case,the court will also claim that the case wasnt proven sufficiently.I am more interested in what apc has on shuaibu

For Shaibu....alleged forged tax clearance, false academic docs, MBA certificate & alleged forged WAEC.

Medicine after death

Hahahahahahahahaha

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