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Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by Nodogragra4me(m): 10:59am On Oct 08, 2020
ALLFATHER14:


More and more allegations that you cannot prove. This same Trump you are talking about gave more than 50 million dollars to the building and support of the Catholic church in the US. And your Gun and violence allegations are just hilarious, Argentina, Uruguay, Brazil, Angola, San Marino, France, Dominican Republic are all Catholic nations and they have no violence or insurgency, you just highlighted Mexico where their cartel members worship the Angél dé la Múertè and you think it's the Catholics that incite the violence. LMAO.

The Catholic church travels around the middle East for evangelism, the Catholic church sends aid to the middle East, but I didn't see your pastors there, did I also mention it's the only legal church to exist in China for now.

Check your facts before you open your mouth waaaaaaa and talk trash


They combine it like this Bishop is doing here. Don't try to separate the drug Lords of Mexico from the catholic church. Everyone knows that even in Brazil, the sect exist side by side with shrines. The same people uses both services when it is convenient.

Other than France, no nation on planet earth with catholic influence is a first class world nation.

In America, the church is been sold off and negotiating with Christians not to poach their membership. They signed papers like two warring warlords.

The headquarters of the Pentecostals is America, look at what it is and compare to any catholic nation on planet. Look at Europe, gradually been take over by Islam but for the Pentecostals.

In UK alone do you know many catholic church don't see twenty people in church on Sunday?


The pope is not seeking revival but is in Mexico to hranague is admin to seeks ways to push drugs into America.


Why has the catholic church not influenced Italians positive after over a thousand years. Why are they still mafia lords

Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by Nodogragra4me(m): 11:02am On Oct 08, 2020
ALLFATHER14:


Link up with Google and type "Largest Church in the world" feed your ignorance.

Largest church by square meter or seating capacity?

The largest chur c on earth is in Nigeria : Dunamis

After it is Winners


When salvation completes their church, it will be the largest


Wikipedia is not an authority. It is written by just any one and edited by anyone who doesn't even know Africa
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by Sulogy2255: 11:07am On Oct 08, 2020
Openbusiness:
Excuse me, please, define "religious purposes" and tell us what those purposes involve. Does it include praying to statues, or reverencing statues, or making statues (like you said) or owning statues and using statues for personal prayers? My Bible WAS compiled by the Catholic Church, but my Bible WAS NOT compiled by the Roman Catholic church. There's a critically big difference, and the Catholic Church (the entire body of Christ) IS NOT THE SAME as the Roman Catholic Church. You said you make statues for religous purposes. The Catholic Church of Christ doesn't make statues or believe in statues or pray to statues. That is the definition of Idolatry.

And seriously, shocked like seriously, you actually want to equate the Ark of the Covenant, inside where the very stone tablets of 10 Commandments that God himself wrote and gave to Moses were kept? The Ark of the Covenant that was inside the Holy of Holies and nobody could approach, see or touch and survive? The Ark of the Covenant that even the Judaism High Priest had to perform rituals and sacrifices before he could approach or have his priesthood carry it with poles, and if he as much as made a single mistake, he would die? That's what you want to compare with the statues and images of Mary that you guys pray to reverence and carry about and keep in your homes, pockets etc as a personal effect? You're funny oh. This statement alone shows your understanding of the Bible is highly questionable.

✓ The Ark of the Covenant IS NOT a statue or image of worship.
✓ The Ark of the Covenant was kept away from the public and priests, only the high Priest could go near it and
✓ The Ark of the Covenant could not be seen, touched or handled, otherwise it was sudden death. It was always COVERED inside the innermost and holiest part of the temple called the Holy of Holies, that was demarcated from other places. None of the priesthood could see, touch or approach it or go into the Holy of Holies. And only the High Priest could go in ONCE A YEAR on the day of atonement to do ritual for the forgiveness of sins for the Israelites and Judaism believers.
✓ The Ark of the Covenant was a physical seat or a stool (the kind found with the Royals or Kings, like the seat of a King). So the Ark of the Covenant was God's seat within the nation of Israel, WHY, because He was their true King. And as long as they had the Ark of the Covenant with them, it was God's chosen way to communicate to them that He was physically present in their midst.

BUT
✓ the statue and images of Mary is an idol, it is a carving that you worship, reverence and pray to, and the statues are personal to you and handled by you and carried around by you or erected in your worship centers that you see, touch and pay obeisance to and pray to.

So please and please don't ever compare that to be Ark of the Covenant. That would be the biggest lie in the world and falsification to the Bible.

Exodus 20
1 And God spoke all these words:
2 "I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.
3 "You shall have no other gods before [1] me.
4 "You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below.
5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them
; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me,
6 but showing love to a thousand [generations] of those who love me and keep my commandments.

And point of correction, the Roman Catholics are not the "beginners" of Christianity, neither are you the custodians of Christianity like you try to appear to the world. Your Pope is not the Pope of Christianity (or the Catholic Church of Christianity). Your Pope is only the Pope of the Roman Catholics and the Roman Catholic Church, which is good, and I'm not against that, but i'm only setting the records straight. This matter is a case of every mallam to his kettle, I believe in religous freedom and you can practice your beliefs anyway you want. I don't have a single problem with that.
if your bible have genesis to revelation created by the catholic then you are wasting your time. better go and develop some thing and call your own bible. if you think ro catholic is fake then you guys are on desame page
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by Cuntface: 11:09am On Oct 08, 2020
Agbegbaorogboye:

Where is it in the Bible that you should build bridges not walls.
Psalms 125: 2: As the mountains surround Jerusalem
Psalms 27:5: In times of trouble, he hides me on his pavilion

It should be somewhere in the bible.
The Pope understands bible more than you undecided
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by Sulogy2255: 11:15am On Oct 08, 2020
Ihatemumu:


Directly for Jesus Christ grin grin grin


Pope is a human just like anybody else, Pope also sins,

b]Directly for Jesus Christ[/b] grin grin grin
What is even funny is that you sounded like you were at the event when Jesus directly picked Pope


Why is Jesus will always picking Whites at Pope?

but you and your pastors are using bible created by the same Caucasian/whites
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by CrazyOptimist: 11:15am On Oct 08, 2020
Donald Trump is leaving the whitehouse Yipeee.
All the odds are against him.
His evil deeds are catching up with him.
His inability to act like an adult talk less of a President.
He will go down as the worst president ever to rule the United states of America.

If you watched his REGENERON video yesterday, you would have seen his desperate attempts at trying to convince himself that he was speaking the truth.

Million and millions of Catholics are voting for Biden.
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by Sulogy2255: 11:18am On Oct 08, 2020
itchie:

What is he doing by attacking Trump? He did this same thing during the last elections in 2016. Why has he not attacked democrat candidates or are they saints? Why should the Pope come out to be saying that Trump is not a christian, who gave him the power to decide who is a christian and who is not?
oga it's the same news of 2016
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by Ihatemumu: 11:25am On Oct 08, 2020
Sulogy2255:
but you and your pastors are using bible created by the same Caucasian/whites

Pastors Yes
Me No...

Go and check the history of the black Community you will understand why Christianity was created for blacks to kiss the whites asses. Sadly Blacks are too scared to research more
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by maasoap(m): 11:25am On Oct 08, 2020
IneedSugarMumy1:
You're not in position to determine that sir

Otuegbe:
Please sir, also check if am a Christian , I want to know if my name is in the book

“A person who thinks only about building walls, wherever they may be, and


Commenting based on the title could mislead you guys.
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by donnie(m): 11:27am On Oct 08, 2020
ALLFATHER14:


1 - Even you yourself know it's a big fat lie. The Catholic church makes statues for religious purposes and not to worship the statues which brings me to question number 2

2 - Check your Bible (that was compiled by the same Catholic church) in the book of Ex 25: 18-20 and tell me what that statue was used for........

It's funny how Pentecostals that just started a few years ago think they are wiser than a church that is the beginning of Christianity itself, baffles me sha

You were asked not to even make them. And you're lying, cos you know Catholics bow to those images, kiss their feet, kneel and pray before them etc. What is the difference between the saint worship of Catholics and ancestor worship of African traditional religion? You simply substituted your village ancestors idols for white idols.

Exodus 20:4-5
[4]Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
[5]Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I YAHUAH thy ELOHIYM am a jealous ELOHIYM, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

If you know you are an Isrealite you will not be defending this abomination and you will know what to do.

Deuteronomy 4:27-28
[27]And YAHUAH shall scatter you among the nations, and ye shall be left few in number among the heathen, whither YAHUAH shall lead you.
[28]And there ye shall serve gods, the work of men's hands, wood and stone, which neither see, nor hear, nor eat, nor smell.


It's our ancestors who were scattered among the nations. They now serve wood and stone. It's time to REPENT.

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Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by Sulogy2255: 11:29am On Oct 08, 2020
Nigeria pentecostal churches are too funny. if the pope is in good terms with trump they will hate trump. but because the pope don't support some of his actions they now love Trump. negro race and hypocrisy are 5&6
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by Ayspark7: 11:36am On Oct 08, 2020
Anago55:
Dry joke
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Trump that got born again around the first term according to his testimony. Even Jesus did not condemn adulterous woman. So why should you condemn him because of his marriage?

Don't mind me bro, I'm referring to the guy who said trump married porn star
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by Sulogy2255: 11:36am On Oct 08, 2020
Openbusiness:
LMAO, imagine oh, a pagan is saying someone else is not a Christian. People that worship statues, bwahahahaha grin grin grin
only the vatican knows if christianity is true or false grin grin
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by LordReed(m): 11:40am On Oct 08, 2020
Jeromejnr:


Lol..you cant take a beating.

Sorry, will take it easy next time.

We know when an argument is lost by an opponent. When he has nothing to say.

Glad you have learnt a lot today.


LoL! What else is a revisionist going to claim than a victory that flies in the face of facts. Bwahahahahaha!
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by Sulogy2255: 11:41am On Oct 08, 2020
Openbusiness:
2 questions:
1) Does Roman Catholicism involve the worship of statues - Yes or No?
2) What does the Bible say about worshipping statues?
if your bible have genesis to revelation then you worship idols too. better go and develop your own bible. because only the vatican knows if christianity is true or false grin grin fear don catch abi
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by Stand4YorubaIgbo: 11:53am On Oct 08, 2020
Sulogy2255:
if your bible have genesis to revelation created by the catholic then you are wasting your time. better go and develop some thing and call your own bible. if you think ro catholic is fake then you guys are on desame page
how can a institution write or Combine a book that is against there practice and belief, guy used ur head
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by fredie107(m): 11:54am On Oct 08, 2020
Is the Pope himself a Christian?
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by Agbegbaorogboye: 11:54am On Oct 08, 2020
Cuntface:


It should be somewhere in the bible.
The Pope understands bible more than you undecided
The Pope never quoted the Bible. You did. Back it up!!
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by Agbegbaorogboye: 11:55am On Oct 08, 2020
olumide4christ:


It has no correlation to the topic of the thread or what I said, which you quoted, unless you are reading a different Bible.

Off-topic!
My mistake. I meant Matt 7:1
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by Agbegbaorogboye: 11:56am On Oct 08, 2020
drlateef:




We are talking about the Pope and Donald Trump, not Buhari. Train your mind to concentrate on issues.
Trump is a president. So is buhari. Both should be judged by equal standards don't you think?
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by drlateef: 12:00pm On Oct 08, 2020
Agbegbaorogboye:

Trump is a president. So is buhari. Both should be judged by equal standards don't you think?



The issue is on Christianity. Buhari is not a Christian.
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by Jeromejnr(m): 12:05pm On Oct 08, 2020
LordReed:


LoL! What else is a revisionist going to claim than a victory that flies in the face of facts. Bwahahahahaha!

You still can't take the L like a man.
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by LordReed(m): 12:12pm On Oct 08, 2020
Jeromejnr:


You still can't take the L like a man.

[img]https://media./images/0eb7215dd1bbf5c825dd0bae6ab42c59/tenor.gif[/img]
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by Minjim: 12:18pm On Oct 08, 2020
IneedSugarMumy1:
You're not in position to determine that sir



He is
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by amNIGERIA: 12:29pm On Oct 08, 2020
chieyine:


https://dailypost.ng/2020/10/08/us-trump-is-not-a-christian-pope-francis/

This was said in 2016, why recycle like current news?


Donald Trump's Christianity questioned by Pope Francis

Pope Francis has questioned US republican presidential candidate Donald Trump's Christianity.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-35607538

I thought dailypost was a professional news site?
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by berbs: 12:43pm On Oct 08, 2020
It's a Catholic that's a Christian, abi? cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by djon78(m): 12:52pm On Oct 08, 2020
Nodogragra4me:



They combine it like this Bishop is doing here. Don't try to separate the drug Lords of Mexico from the catholic church. Everyone knows that even in Brazil, the sect exist side by side with shrines. The same people uses both services when it is convenient.

Other than France, no nation on planet earth with catholic influence is a first class world nation.

In America, the church is been sold off and negotiating with Christians not to poach their membership. They signed papers like two warring warlords.

The headquarters of the Pentecostals is America, look at what it is and compare to any catholic nation on planet. Look at Europe, gradually been take over by Islam but for the Pentecostals.

In UK alone do you know many catholic church don't see twenty people in church on Sunday?


The pope is not seeking revival but is in Mexico to hranague is admin to seeks ways to push drugs into America.


Why has the catholic church not influenced Italians positive after over a thousand years. Why are they still mafia lords



Actually Pentecostal church is the fastest growing churches in the world.
They are the major threat to leftists taking over modern culture.


And Pentecostal church are thriving and helping in shaping nations economically.

Nations that have embraced Pentecostal church fully in the world are
The US
Australia
Singapore
Taiwan
Canada
South Korea

Check how prosperous these nations are
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by Sprumbaba: 1:00pm On Oct 08, 2020
TooMuchStuff:
He is a powerful and very practical Christian.

He belongs to the Evangelicals where pentecostal doctrine leads the way of worship.

His obsession with gradual invasion of radical Islam into the USA is what Pope Francis doesn't fancy. Jihad like cancer require radical approach like Donald Trump.

Joe Biden is liberals where anything everything goes including toleration of Bloodthirsty jihadists
Trump that used the bible that his mom gave him for swearing in. The same pope that his catholic bishops are sexually harassing young boys.

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Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by Sulogy2255: 1:13pm On Oct 08, 2020
Nodogragra4me:



They combine it like this Bishop is doing here. Don't try to separate the drug Lords of Mexico from the catholic church. Everyone knows that even in Brazil, the sect exist side by side with shrines. The same people uses both services when it is convenient.

Other than France, no nation on planet earth with catholic influence is a first class world nation.

In America, the church is been sold off and negotiating with Christians not to poach their membership. They signed papers like two warring warlords.

The headquarters of the Pentecostals is America, look at what it is and compare to any catholic nation on planet. Look at Europe, gradually been take over by Islam but for the Pentecostals.

In UK alone do you know many catholic church don't see twenty people in church on Sunday?


The pope is not seeking revival but is in Mexico to hranague is admin to seeks ways to push drugs into America.


Why has the catholic church not influenced Italians positive after over a thousand years. Why are they still mafia lords
only the vatican knows if christianity is true or false that is including your pentecostal churches. if your bible have genesis to revelation then you are not different go and develop your own bible. We love worshipping idols and we like am grin grin
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by Openbusiness: 1:16pm On Oct 08, 2020
Sulogy I'm not stupid. I can already see what you stand for, know what your comments are about and what you're trying to do. But it's my choice whether or not to make the real truth known or to shut up. You're not a Roman Catholic and your subtle goading trying to pit both sides against themselves is unnecessary. We are not fighting here. Just having intelligent conversations and addressing some subjects that are uncomfortable to talk about for some people. I'm only responding to you for the sake of public misinformation.

Sulogy2255:
only the vatican knows if christianity is true or false grin grin
FALSE!

Sulogy2255:
if your bible have genesis to revelation then you worship idols too. better go and develop your own bible. because only the vatican knows if christianity is true or false grin grin fear don catch abi
False! There is no idolatry in Christianity. Meaning, there's no making of statues, no selling of statues, no praying to statues or images, no reverencing, obeisance or bowing to statues, no form of statue worship etc, which is idolatry. If you see a religion that practices idolatry, then it is not Christianity. It is something else.

Sulogy2255:
if your bible have genesis to revelation created by the catholic then you are wasting your time. better go and develop some thing and call your own bible. if you think ro catholic is fake then you guys are on desame page
The Bible WAS NOT created by the Roman Catholics. The Roman Catholic Church did not write the 66 books of the Bible, which is the Hebrew or Jewish Bible and both Judaism and Christianity came from the Jews. Jesus was a Jew and he practiced Judaism and Jesus did NOT bow or pray to statues or make or hold statues in Judaism. In Judaism, idolatry is forbidden and idolatry is sin. And it was the same Jewish Jesus who gave us Christianity. The Hebrews aka Jews wrote the Old Testaments, and the Jewish Christians aka Believers wrote the New Testament in judeo-greek language because Greek civilization was the reigning civilization of that era. The additional deuterocanonical books originate from let me just use the term "various questionable sources" and they are not part of the Hebrew Tanakh or Scrolls (Bible). And that's why it is excluded from the Jewish bible and Christian Bible, and not recognized. Only the Roman Catholics and Orthodox religions use it.
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by VirginFinder: 1:25pm On Oct 08, 2020
Dotherightthing:
If only the Eeyes of the Ppeople are opened to see who is Wwho?
Don't be Ddeceived by Ttitles!
Ask God Almighty to open your eyes to Kknow Wwho is Wwho!

The Eend is upon!
The agents and Ffore runners of the antichrist are Ppreparing themselves and Aannouncing themselves..

What is Mmost is Ffor Yyou and I to Eensure we are Ggenuinely Ssaved so as not to be left Bbehind!

It will be Sso Tterrible down Hhere if you Mmiss the Rapture!!

Submit to Jesus Christ now you Hhave the opportunity!
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Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by ebakhaiyhe(m): 1:27pm On Oct 08, 2020
Mr . Pope, sorry to say that even the Jews said same of Jesus Christ. John.8.48 - Then the Jews answered and said to Him, "Do we not say rightly that You are a Samaritan and have a demon?"
Were they right in their judgement? You judge for yourself if you are right in this case. You just acted like the Jews in Jesus time on earth

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