Kingsaeedibn:


Muslim that's supporting protest is never a Muslim

Am a typical muslim, and am very disappointed in all your comments so far�

Lukay99:



I replied you already, I guess you're blinded by hatred of Islam that's why you can't see it but you chooses to comment on my message to someone else instead. I will send it again hopefully you'll not miss it this time around.

Like have said earlier, the Quran never ordered Muslims to kill all Polytheists, but the Quran only ordered the killings of a specific group of polytheists at a specific time that where in a size fire treaty with the Muslims. Some Polytheists broke the treaty while some Polytheists honored the treaty. The ones that did not honored the treaty attacked and killed the Muslims then Allah ordered the Muslims to give them 4 months opportunity to make right but if they don't then the Muslims can only attack and kill the polytheists that killed Muslims (only the ones that broke the treaty are killed) but the Polytheists that did not broke the treaty are to be honored and protected by the Muslims according to the Quran. So stop twisting the Quran for your own hidden agenda 

You haven't answer my question, or are you afraid or ashamed of yourself, ashamed of your god allah and Muhammad? WHO ARE THE SPECIFIC GROUP OF POLYTHEISTS, PAGANS, allah SAID YOU SHOULD KILL? Shey den no get name(s) kwo?



فَسِيحُواْ فِي ٱلۡأَرۡضِ أَرۡبَعَةَ أَشۡهُرٖ وَٱعۡلَمُوٓاْ أَنَّكُمۡ غَيۡرُ مُعۡجِزِي ٱللَّهِ وَأَنَّ ٱللَّهَ مُخۡزِي ٱلۡكَٰفِرِينَ

(Sahih International)Quran 9.2
So travel freely, [O disbelievers], throughout the land [during] four months but know that you cannot cause failure to Allah and that Allah will disgrace the disbelievers.


وَأَذَٰنٞ مِّنَ ٱللَّهِ وَرَسُولِهِۦٓ إِلَى ٱلنَّاسِ يَوۡمَ ٱلۡحَجِّ ٱلۡأَكۡبَرِ أَنَّ ٱللَّهَ بَرِيٓءٞ مِّنَ ٱلۡمُشۡرِكِينَ وَرَسُولُهُۥۚ فَإِن تُبۡتُمۡ فَهُوَ خَيۡرٞ لَّكُمۡۖ وَإِن تَوَلَّيۡتُمۡ فَٱعۡلَمُوٓاْ أَنَّكُمۡ غَيۡرُ مُعۡجِزِي ٱللَّهِۗ وَبَشِّرِ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ بِعَذَابٍ أَلِيمٍ

(Yusuf Ali) Quran 9.3
And an announcement from Allah and His Messenger, to the people (assembled) on the day of the Great Pilgrimage,- that Allah and His Messenger dissolve (treaty) obligations with the Pagans. If then, ye repent, it were best for you; but if ye turn away, know ye that ye cannot frustrate Allah. And proclaim a grievous penalty to those who reject Faith.


إِلَّا ٱلَّذِينَ عَٰهَدتُّم مِّنَ ٱلۡمُشۡرِكِينَ ثُمَّ لَمۡ يَنقُصُوكُمۡ شَيۡـٔٗا وَلَمۡ يُظَٰهِرُواْ عَلَيۡكُمۡ أَحَدٗا فَأَتِمُّوٓاْ إِلَيۡهِمۡ عَهۡدَهُمۡ إِلَىٰ مُدَّتِهِمۡۚ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ يُحِبُّ ٱلۡمُتَّقِينَ

(Sahih International) Quran 9.4
Excepted are those with whom you made a treaty among the polytheists and then they have not been deficient toward you in anything or supported anyone against you; so complete for them their treaty until their term [has ended]. Indeed, Allah loves the righteous [who fear Him].
(This verse above tells the Muslims to honored the term of the treaty by the Polytheists that never attacked the Muslims. They are not to be attacked.)

فَإِذَا ٱنسَلَخَ ٱلۡأَشۡهُرُ ٱلۡحُرُمُ فَٱقۡتُلُواْ ٱلۡمُشۡرِكِينَ حَيۡثُ وَجَدتُّمُوهُمۡ وَخُذُوهُمۡ وَٱحۡصُرُوهُمۡ وَٱقۡعُدُواْ لَهُمۡ كُلَّ مَرۡصَدٖۚ فَإِن تَابُواْ وَأَقَامُواْ ٱلصَّلَوٰةَ وَءَاتَوُاْ ٱلزَّكَوٰةَ فَخَلُّواْ سَبِيلَهُمۡۚ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ غَفُورٞ رَّحِيمٞ

(Sahih International) Quran 9.5
And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.
(This verse above is specifically addressing only the Polytheists that broke the treaty by attacking and killing Muslims and where given four months notice to make right with the Muslims but if no response from them after 4 months, only then can the Muslims go after that specific set of Polytheists)

وَإِنۡ أَحَدٞ مِّنَ ٱلۡمُشۡرِكِينَ ٱسۡتَجَارَكَ فَأَجِرۡهُ حَتَّىٰ يَسۡمَعَ كَلَٰمَ ٱللَّهِ ثُمَّ أَبۡلِغۡهُ مَأۡمَنَهُۥۚ ذَٰلِكَ بِأَنَّهُمۡ قَوۡمٞ لَّا يَعۡلَمُونَ

(Sahih International) Quran 9.6
And if any one of the polytheists seeks your protection, then grant him protection so that he may hear the words of Allah . Then deliver him to his place of safety. That is because they are a people who do not know.
(This verse above is addressing all Polytheists)

Please stop twisting the interpretation of the Quran. No where did Allah ordered the killings of all Polytheists. 

Lukay99:


Polytheism is the worship of or belief in multiple deities, which are usually assembled into a pantheon of gods and goddesses, along with their own religions and rituals(Polytheists is not same as Jews and Christians) stop twisting the Quran 

You admitted that Polytheists is not the same as Christians, very good but the reason for killing we Christians is that we believe in JESUS CHRIST AS GOD and MESSIAH.. Some other versions of your Quran mentioned PAGANS or who are the pagans again?

Lukay99:




How can the Bible tells Christians to kill Muslims specifically when Islam as we see Today don't even come into existence until 600 years after Jesus (saw) or after the Bible or gospel have already been written? Your question is illogical

Are you now saying allah was so stupid to have named ADAM AS THE FIRST MUSLIM in Quran? Or Adam was no more the first Muslim as Quran said? Nawa ooo

If According to allah, Adam was the first Muslim Bible ought to instructs Jewish and Christians to always kill you slaves of allah

Lakside1955:


Am a typical muslim, and am very disappointed in all your comments so far�

Salaam, you are just getting to know him?. He is not new here. He is a clown. Don't stress yourself over his madness. This is probably his 15th NL account.

This is a verse in the Quran, even Quran told us to stand for justice

ANTIlSLAM:


You haven't answer my question, or are you afraid or ashamed of yourself, ashamed of your god allah and Muhammad? WHO ARE THE SPECIFIC GROUP OF POLYTHEISTS, PAGANS, allah SAID YOU SHOULD KILL? Shey den no get name(s) kwo?

Are you asking for individual names?

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سِيحُواْ فِي ٱلۡأَرۡضِ أَرۡبَعَةَ أَشۡهُرٖ وَٱعۡلَمُوٓاْ أَنَّكُمۡ غَيۡرُ مُعۡجِزِي ٱللَّهِ وَأَنَّ ٱللَّهَ مُخۡزِي ٱلۡكَٰفِرِينَ

(Sahih International)Quran 9.2
So travel freely, [O disbelievers], throughout the land [during] four months but know that you cannot cause failure to Allah and that Allah will disgrace the disbelievers.


وَأَذَٰنٞ مِّنَ ٱللَّهِ وَرَسُولِهِۦٓ إِلَى ٱلنَّاسِ يَوۡمَ ٱلۡحَجِّ ٱلۡأَكۡبَرِ أَنَّ ٱللَّهَ بَرِيٓءٞ مِّنَ ٱلۡمُشۡرِكِينَ وَرَسُولُهُۥۚ فَإِن تُبۡتُمۡ فَهُوَ خَيۡرٞ لَّكُمۡۖ وَإِن تَوَلَّيۡتُمۡ فَٱعۡلَمُوٓاْ أَنَّكُمۡ غَيۡرُ مُعۡجِزِي ٱللَّهِۗ وَبَشِّرِ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ بِعَذَابٍ أَلِيمٍ

(Yusuf Ali) Quran 9.3
And an announcement from Allah and His Messenger, to the people (assembled) on the day of the Great Pilgrimage,- that Allah and His Messenger dissolve (treaty) obligations with the Pagans. If then, ye repent, it were best for you; but if ye turn away, know ye that ye cannot frustrate Allah. And proclaim a grievous penalty to those who reject Faith.


إِلَّا ٱلَّذِينَ عَٰهَدتُّم مِّنَ ٱلۡمُشۡرِكِينَ ثُمَّ لَمۡ يَنقُصُوكُمۡ شَيۡـٔٗا وَلَمۡ يُظَٰهِرُواْ عَلَيۡكُمۡ أَحَدٗا فَأَتِمُّوٓاْ إِلَيۡهِمۡ عَهۡدَهُمۡ إِلَىٰ مُدَّتِهِمۡۚ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ يُحِبُّ ٱلۡمُتَّقِينَ

(Sahih International) Quran 9.4
Excepted are those with whom you made a treaty among the polytheists and then they have not been deficient toward you in anything or supported anyone against you; so complete for them their treaty until their term [has ended]. Indeed, Allah loves the righteous [who fear Him].
(This verse above tells the Muslims to honored the term of the treaty by the Polytheists that never attacked the Muslims. They are not to be attacked.)

فَإِذَا ٱنسَلَخَ ٱلۡأَشۡهُرُ ٱلۡحُرُمُ فَٱقۡتُلُواْ ٱلۡمُشۡرِكِينَ حَيۡثُ وَجَدتُّمُوهُمۡ وَخُذُوهُمۡ وَٱحۡصُرُوهُمۡ وَٱقۡعُدُواْ لَهُمۡ كُلَّ مَرۡصَدٖۚ فَإِن تَابُواْ وَأَقَامُواْ ٱلصَّلَوٰةَ وَءَاتَوُاْ ٱلزَّكَوٰةَ فَخَلُّواْ سَبِيلَهُمۡۚ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ غَفُورٞ رَّحِيمٞ

(Sahih International) Quran 9.5
And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.
(This verse above is specifically addressing only the Polytheists that broke the treaty by attacking and killing Muslims and where given four months notice to make right with the Muslims but if no response from them after 4 months, only then can the Muslims go after that specific set of Polytheists)

وَإِنۡ أَحَدٞ مِّنَ ٱلۡمُشۡرِكِينَ ٱسۡتَجَارَكَ فَأَجِرۡهُ حَتَّىٰ يَسۡمَعَ كَلَٰمَ ٱللَّهِ ثُمَّ أَبۡلِغۡهُ مَأۡمَنَهُۥۚ ذَٰلِكَ بِأَنَّهُمۡ قَوۡمٞ لَّا يَعۡلَمُونَ

(Sahih International) Quran 9.6
And if any one of the polytheists seeks your protection, then grant him protection so that he may hear the words of Allah . Then deliver him to his place of safety. That is because they are a people who do not know.
(This verse above is addressing all Polytheists)

Please stop twisting the interpretation of the Quran. No where did Allah ordered the killings of all Polytheists. 


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You admitted that Polytheists is not the same as Christians, very good but the reason for killing we Christians is that we believe in JESUS CHRIST AS GOD and MESSIAH.. Some other versions of your Quran mentioned PAGANS or who are the pagans again?




Are you now saying allah was so stupid to have named ADAM AS THE FIRST MUSLIM in Quran? Or Adam was no more the first Muslim as Quran said? Nawa ooo

If According to allah, Adam was the first Muslim Bible ought to instructs Jewish and Christians to always kill you slaves of allah [/quote]

What you failed to understand is that not Adam alone a muslim but all the Prophets from Adam to Noah, Moses, Abraham and even Jesus (Peace and blessing to all of them) where all Muslims. Let me Educate you Mr hypocrite, A Muslim is a person that follows the religion of Islam and what is Islam? Islam is the fully submission to the rule of God (Allah).

Don't you know that we Muslims follows Juses and all the Prophets (saw) more than you Christians? You Christians don't really follow Jesus or the Prophets, you don't even believe or worship like they do. You Christians only follows your church leaders and definitely not the Bible or Prophets including Jesus (saw).

Adam believes and submit to the rule of God
Noah believes and submit to the rule of God
Moses believes and submit to the rule of God
Abraham believes and submit to the rule of God
And all the rest of the Prophets believes and submit to the rule of God and none of them believe in a Man God (e.g Jesus Peace and blessing of Allah be with him) none of the Prophets preached or belief in trinity or a concept of Trinity but they all preached and believe and submit to one and only one God including Jesus (saw). There were all Muslims.

Lukay99:


Please stop twisting the interpretation of the Quran. No where did Allah ordered the killings of all Polytheists. 

You mean allah was twisting the Quran ? just answer simple question


Yusuf Ali : But when the forbidden months are past, then
fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an
seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in
every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and
establish regular prayers and practise regular charity,
then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving,
Most Merciful.


WHO ARE THE PAGANS allah SAID YOU SHOULD SLAY ?


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What you failed to understand is that not Adam alone a muslim but all the Prophets from Adam to Noah, Moses, Abraham and even Jesus (Peace and blessing to all of them) where all Muslims. Let me Educate you Mr hypocrite, A Muslim is a person that follows the religion of Islam and what is Islam? Islam is the fully submission to the rule of God (Allah).

Did I said according to allah and quran ADAM WAS NOT THE FIRST MUSLIM? Or what are you educating here?


Had it been God of Abraham, Isaac Jacob is like you bloody allah, He would have ordered us (Christians ) to be killing you SLAVES

Lukay99:


Don't you know that we Muslims follows Juses and all the Prophets (saw) more than you Christians? You Christians don't really follow Jesus or the Prophets, you don't even believe or worship like they do. You Christians only follows your church leaders and definitely not the Bible or Prophets including Jesus (saw).

AUDIO FOLLOWING, Jesus Christ never ordered us to kill you Muslims, Jesus Christ never fought for God as Muhammad did throughout his life time, Jesus Christ never married A teenage girl like Aishat, Jesus Christ never instructed to STONE ANYONE for INSULTING him, If you truly follow Jesus Christ you must abide by the TEACHING OF LOVE He preached and stop KILLING CHRISTIANS because we are his (Jesus Christi) true followers

Lukay99:


Adam believes and submit to the rule of God
Noah believes and submit to the rule of God
Moses believes and submit to the rule of God
Abraham believes and submit to the rule of God
And all the rest of the Prophets believes and submit to the rule of God and none of them believe in a Man God (e.g Jesus Peace and blessing of Allah be with him) none of the Prophets preached or belief in trinity or a concept of Trinity but they all preached and believe and submit to one and only one God including Jesus (saw). There were all Muslims.

I asked you how many is allah for using plural words such as US, WE, OUR etc to refer to itself, himself or herself.. allah and its angels according to Quran even PRAYED FOR Muhammad, ask yourself if allah has another Supreme it was sending its prayer's request to?

Jesus Christ talks about TRINITY but the problem you slaves has is that you're looking for the word TRINITY in Bible

Empiree:
Salaam, you are just getting to know him?. He is not new here. He is a clown. Don't stress yourself over his madness. This is probably his 15th NL account.

Oh, make I pull off then, thanks