wellheads:


Hmmmm.
Looks like he is a big time crook then.

mrbanji:
Here is the beginning of our fallout.

I gave you update that the vehicle will be exited on the 19th of August

He started with anger, which I have given you an exit date as 19th yet the 19th hasn't passed, you have started with you are disappointed, you have used many agents in the past...

And I told him i focus on my job... not the agent you have used in the past.

And perhaps he talked about arrogance, abuses and insolence, the reason why I had to paste our chat on here is for you to know all that happened between us... check if by anyway I did show any of those attitude to the client from beginning till the end of the deal

Shortcut2life:



All this explanation is not needed was the the consignment underpaid yes or no ? ... if it was then make a refund of the said amount ..

mrbanji:
Conclusion of the 19th of August.



And here is the major point of discussion the 21st of August



[b]Now here is the negotiations for his refund comes in...

He demanded 75k...

And here is where the negotiations fallout cos you can't expect me to pay you 75k... the calculations I gave above show am spending more on this clearing. Now getting 700k instead of 755k means I will have to part from the 75k left from the reduction to add to the valuation fee, releasing fee and the gate signing.

And I told him given you 75k is unrealistic.

I agreed and apologize for breach and I told him I can pay him 25k.

Which I believe there is no fraudulent act in all this, agreeing to something means you accept. Negotiating break down cos I can't pays his demand and he doesn't wants my offer.

There are calculations below which I showed him the 1.250k won't be sufficient for the clearance.

And all my clearance are “custom valuation ” certified.

To those who doesn't understand the industry very well.

Customs valuation means the only customs unit that tells how much to be paid on a consignment. [/b]

That consignment wasn't underpaid. What the customs valuation issued was what I paid.



Is this a fraud?


A breach of contract is different from Fraud, I only safe my self from loss.

mrbanji:
Conclusion of the 19th of August.



And here is the major point of discussion the 21st of August



[b]Now here is the negotiations for his refund comes in...

He demanded 75k...

And here is where the negotiations fallout cos you can't expect me to pay you 75k... the calculations I gave above show am spending more on this clearing. Now getting 700k instead of 755k means I will have to part from the 75k left from the reduction to add to the valuation fee, releasing fee and the gate signing.

And I told him given you 75k is unrealistic.

I agreed and apologize for breach and I told him I can pay him 25k.

Which I believe there is no fraudulent act in all this, agreeing to something means you accept. Negotiating break down cos I can't pays his demand and he doesn't wants my offer.

There are calculations below which I showed him the 1.250k won't be sufficient for the clearance.

And all my clearance are “custom valuation ” certified.

To those who doesn't understand the industry very well.

Customs valuation means the only customs unit that tells how much to be paid on a consignment. [/b]

That consignment wasn't underpaid. What the customs valuation issued was what I paid.



Is this a fraud?


A breach of contract is different from Fraud, I only safe my self from loss.

mrbanji:
Conclusion of the 19th of August.



And here is the major point of discussion the 21st of August



[b]Now here is the negotiations for his refund comes in...

He demanded 75k...

And here is where the negotiations fallout cos you can't expect me to pay you 75k... the calculations I gave above show am spending more on this clearing. Now getting 700k instead of 755k means I will have to part from the 75k left from the reduction to add to the valuation fee, releasing fee and the gate signing.

And I told him given you 75k is unrealistic.

I agreed and apologize for breach and I told him I can pay him 25k.

Which I believe there is no fraudulent act in all this, agreeing to something means you accept. Negotiating break down cos I can't pays his demand and he doesn't wants my offer.

There are calculations below which I showed him the 1.250k won't be sufficient for the clearance.

And all my clearance are “custom valuation ” certified.

To those who doesn't understand the industry very well.

Customs valuation means the only customs unit that tells how much to be paid on a consignment. [/b]

That consignment wasn't underpaid. What the customs valuation issued was what I paid.



Is this a fraud?


A breach of contract is different from Fraud, I only safe my self from loss.

erico2k2:

So in a short sentence, the customs gave you one valuation then turned around in increased the valuation and then took custody of the car, check it, even to you does this make sense?

Nickelodeon93:
Bleep up man..

mrbanji:
Conclusion of the 19th of August.



And here is the major point of discussion the 21st of August



[b]Now here is the negotiations for his refund comes in...

He demanded 75k...

And here is where the negotiations fallout cos you can't expect me to pay you 75k... the calculations I gave above show am spending more on this clearing. Now getting 700k instead of 755k means I will have to part from the 75k left from the reduction to add to the valuation fee, releasing fee and the gate signing.

And I told him given you 75k is unrealistic.

I agreed and apologize for breach and I told him I can pay him 25k.

Which I believe there is no fraudulent act in all this, agreeing to something means you accept. Negotiating break down cos I can't pays his demand and he doesn't wants my offer.

There are calculations below which I showed him the 1.250k won't be sufficient for the clearance.

And all my clearance are “custom valuation ” certified.

To those who doesn't understand the industry very well.

Customs valuation means the only customs unit that tells how much to be paid on a consignment. [/b]

That consignment wasn't underpaid. What the customs valuation issued was what I paid.



Is this a fraud?


A breach of contract is different from Fraud, I only safe my self from loss.

mrbanji:
He made demand and I told him his demand can't be reached, I can only give compensation for breach of contract. Cos the reason why his demand can't be reached is that .

1 - The cost which I told him can't complete the clearing, that why I negotiated for 700k as surface duty.
2- The available balance was used to cover what could have been a loss for me if I couldn't get the 700k surface duty

So how do I meet his demand?

Do fraudster negotiate for refunds?

peeps4u:
Oga, even after you increased the initial charge, it was still not enough unless you underpaid?

Isn't it your job again? He already paid what you charged him, you need to refund whatever amount you didn't pay which you already collected from him.

Do you know you brought the car owner into mess and another expenses with your 'breach' of contract? And you dont want to refund 75k you fraudulently removed from the money owner paid you and you didn't pay custom?

mrbanji:
Conclusion

Am posting the final 2 chat after these.

The reason why I posted at about 98% of our is for you to read before questions.

Mind you customs are not how you think it to be . It's not as simple as A B or C.... as some people talk.

People with clearer ideal about the industry should ask questions.

promotervickky:


What is it with custom that we don't know about? Please share, meanwhile we are all waiting for you to send the balance of the cash to the owner That is why we are here!

muhamm3d:
it will never happen cos I am not fraudulent. When the OP is ready he should buzz as my friend is a top guy in efcc. Both of you phone number is the only thing needed even if you dig the land and start living under the sea they will fish you out. Don’t worry. You people have no business on earth. Awon ashiere!

wellheads:
Mind you Banji, don't think we haven't investigated the forgery on the customs papers for the second vehicle too oo. We are already aware of the first and actual payment which you made, with the underpayment therein, before you went and forged another set of papers that will read what you were asked to pay. You did the forgery and second set of papers so that we will not tell you to refund the difference in that one too.

We just don't want to lump everything up. So we will take it one by one.

You are in for a long thing.

If I tell you am white as snow i mean it.

Paste the document on here I will pay for its confirmation if it doesn't match the one he ( your Brother) has am ready for court hearing.

You talk thing you know nothing about.

Anybody can breach a contract. And that's the only apology I gave him.

I have traded a lot of deals on here.

omooyebamiji:
It would be nice if you can post the custom document to show he didn't pay the agreed surface amount instead of just telling us how much was paid.

mrbanji:
Final part...

The Accused was not the person directly involved in this contract... he only says what he was told.


Now I am a breacher of contract and not a fraud as the Accused insisted.

He is just a novice.

Secondly the reason why I said he who understand the industry should contribute,

98% of the vehicles clear are underpaid by customs on the Highway.

Once the valuation issues a value, and you paid it in full, you did not under paid.

Mekudi:

You're the same Banji op called out, you're not smart at all

mrbanji:




If I tell you am white as snow i mean it.

Paste the document on here I will pay for its confirmation if it doesn't match the one he ( your Brother) has am ready for court hearing.

You talk thing you know nothing about.

Anybody can breach a contract. And that's the only apology I gave him.

I have traded a lot of deals on here.