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Truth Of Medical And Allied Health Courses by Cetacean419: 10:38pm On Oct 23, 2020
This thread is designed to handle the Need for Health courses for those who would want to go into it in the Latter future or those that are already in it at the beginning stage.
I am an Engineer turned Agriculturist. Some will ask what Concerns Engineering and Medical courses. I have always been on Philanthropic Outreaches with NGO's where I deliver Food produce. I interact with Health workers from all courses. From Dentists, Optometrist,Medical Doctors ,Vets, Nurses, Lab Scientists and many more and also been involved in Researches ranging from food to health.
I will list all the courses in the Health Field in Nigeria and dissect it. You Might correct me if you feel I didn't hit the nail on the head.
*ANATOMY
* BIOCHEMISTRY
* DENTAL TECHNOLOGY
*DENTISTRY AND DENTAL SURGERY
*MEDICAL BIOCHEMISTRY
* MEDICINE AND SURGERY (HUMAN MEDICINE)
* MEDICAL LABORATORY SCIENCE
* MEDICAL REHABILITATION
* NURSING SCIENCE
* NUTRITION AND DIETICS
*OPTOMETRY
* PROSTHETIS AND ORTHOTICS/ORTHOPAEDIC TECHNOLOGY
* PHARMACOLOGY/PHARMACOLOGY AND THERAPEUTICS
*PHARMACY
* PHYSIOLOGY
* PHYSIOTHERAPY
* PUBLIC HEALTH TECHNOLOGY
*PUBLIC HEALTH
*RADIOGRAPHY/RADIOLOGY TECHNOLOGY
* VETERINARY MEDICINE AND SURGERY.
First things first many of students are going to pick only 7 at most from these courses.
First is because of the thought of employability and the second is Prestige.
I will be giving you the Pros and cons of every course there in respect to Nigeria.
I HAD TO MODIFY THESE AS I SAW A PERSON SAYING THAT NOT EVERYBODY WILL BE A PHARMACIST, A DENTIST, A NURSE OR A MEDICAL DOCTOR. I TOTALLY AGREE WITH HIM.
IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT IF YOU LOVE HELPING IN HEALTH MEANS YOU WILL GO WITH THE OBVIOUS SIDE.
CONTINUE READING PLEASE.

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Re: Truth Of Medical And Allied Health Courses by Cetacean419: 10:57pm On Oct 23, 2020
ANATOMY:
The branch of biology which deals with the structure of Organisms and their parts.
I will not be going into details like gross anatomy,histology and the rest.
The knowledge of anatomy enables one to know vividly how to approach cases pertaining to Organisms. There are various branches from systemic ,Gross and Regional Anatomy.
The popular anatomy studied in undergraduate is the Human anatomy which deals mainly with Humans. It enables you to know what we are made of.
If you're are a person who is interested in Humans and fascinated about it but not necessarily bothered about treating humans this course is for you.
It can also be used as a prerequisite for Medicine and surgery as well as other health courses.
If you feel you want to pursue it as a profession it is always advisable to pursue to PhD.
Where can I work?
This is the major issue people ask.
* Teaching Facilities
Anatomy is a course which is very much feasible in teaching. If you feel you want to be a Lecturer and then progress to a professor this is for you.
* Forensics
Although the pathologists is Chiefly in charge of this, you can act as a Pathology assistant to detect causes of death and also solve puzzling questions since Nigeria has a working Forensics though not very great but at its growing stages.
* Morgues.
You can be in charge of handling and preparing dead bodies for burials for which they are needed.
* Research Institute
Working as a histologist and with comparative anatomy can Chiefly promote medicine and Science.
CONS:
* It is studied by virtually all medical courses so it limits the course
* No serious job advertisement for it
* It involves serious bulky work.

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Re: Truth Of Medical And Allied Health Courses by Quality20(m): 12:22am On Oct 24, 2020
Pls don't read all those ones like anatomy n physiology, just go for mbbs, pharmacy, nursing n med lab

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Re: Truth Of Medical And Allied Health Courses by KINGJAJA888(m): 1:48am On Oct 24, 2020
How Useful is Radiography
Re: Truth Of Medical And Allied Health Courses by Nobody: 6:46am On Oct 24, 2020
Physiotherapy
Re: Truth Of Medical And Allied Health Courses by Zeeknow3245(m): 10:47am On Oct 24, 2020
Quality20:
Pls don't read all those ones like anatomy n physiology, just go for mbbs, pharmacy, nursing n med lab
......

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Re: Truth Of Medical And Allied Health Courses by Cetacean419: 10:30am On Oct 25, 2020
BIOCHEMISTRY:
Biochemistry is the branch of science that explores the chemical processes within and related to living organisms.It is a laboratory based science that brings together biology and chemistry. By using chemical knowledge and techniques, biochemists can understand and solve biological problems.
So if you love Biology and Chemistry and you don't want to be involved directly in patient wellness or you want be develop or work actively in synthesis of Organic Compounds to aid Man, this is for you.
What Can I do with this degree?
* It can be used as a prerequisite for Medical courses and allied health sciences.
* You can actively develop your own products like creams, soaps, deodorant, drinks etc. With a bit of Capital.
Where Can I work?
* Teaching Facilities:
This is usually the most common area of interest. People study the courses up to PhD level.
* Agro-Industry
* Brewing Industry
* Environmental Sanitation
* Pharmaceuticals
* Research Institute
CONS
* The Industries aforementioned are Saturated with BIOCHEMISTRY Graduates hence, Limited opportunities
* Poor Research Facilities in Nigeria.
One of the best bets you can do is Developing your own products , Brewing and Teaching.

Re: Truth Of Medical And Allied Health Courses by Cetacean419: 10:38am On Oct 25, 2020
DENTAL TECHNOLOGY:
Dental Technology is the technical side of dentistry where dental technologists make appliances to improve patients' appearance, speech, or ability to chew.
Dental technicians are a crucial part of the dental team. They use their understanding of dental material science, and their skills of design and fabrication, to recreate people's teeth.
Why Should I study Dental Technology?
Dental technology teaches you how to:
*Design and construct artificial teeth and removable orthodontic appliances.

*Create appliances to meet each patient's needs

*Make appliances from a wide range of materials including gold, porcelain, and acrylic

*Work with a high level of responsibility and accuracy, as the product you make can affect a person's health and appearance

*Visualise in 3D perspective and develop an eye for detail
Where Can I work?
* Dental Offices
* Care Homes
* Higher Institution
* Health Officer
CONS:
* You are streamlined towards the area of Teeth care and artificial fabrication
* You need to extremely patient and have a good eye to meet specifications.
* Not a lot of Job openings but a lot substantial.

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Re: Truth Of Medical And Allied Health Courses by Cetacean419: 10:49am On Oct 25, 2020
DENTISTRY:
PREAMBLE:
Do you like craft,precision and a good eye? Do you love Health, communication, hardwork and Patience? Do you not mind looking at something that is quite small but sensitive all of your life if you feel? Then Dentistry is for you.

Dentistry , the profession concerned with the prevention and treatment of oral disease, including diseases of the teeth and supporting structures and diseases of the soft tissues of the mouth.
Dentistry also
encompasses the treatment and correction of malformation of the jaws, misalignment of the teeth, and birth anomalies of the oral cavity such as cleft palate .
In addition to general practice, dentistry includes many specialties and subspecialties, including orthodontics and dental orthopedics, pediatric dentistry , periodontics ,
prosthodontics , oral and maxillofacial surgery , oral and maxillofacial pathology ,
endodontics, public health dentistry , and oral and maxillofacial radiology.
DENTISTRY IN NIGERIA.
Dentistry is quite a tough course to enter. Though its mark is quite small compared to medicine and Surgery but it is more difficult to enter since they are less than 50 available sits for new entries.
Dentistry students take virtually courses with Medical Students except OnG(Obstetrics and Gynaecology) Paediatrics and Psychiatry I think.
SO WHO TAKES CARE OF THEIR TEETH?
It is myth that people don't take of their teeth since they have been a lot of awareness lately. A Dentist is also called a Dental surgeon since often times he works on you than prescription.
Dentists are paid same as their their Medical Counterparts.
So where can I work?
* Teaching Hospitals
* Private Practice more often
* Military
* Police and Paramilitary
* Higher Institutions
* Public Health expert
* Pharmaceuticals
* Sales Representative
CONS
* It is streamlined towards the lower face and some part of the Neck
* It is not everyone who will specialise painfully true
* It takes enthusiasm to enjoy your job because most times you are staring at a similar thing which is the mouth.

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Re: Truth Of Medical And Allied Health Courses by Cetacean419: 11:15am On Oct 25, 2020
MEDICAL BIOCHEMISTRY:
Medical Biochemistry is a branch of medicine that incorporates Biochemistry and metabolism in human and disease. ...Medical Biochemistry directs diagnostics,clinical laboratories and treatment of patients with different biochemical and metabolically disorders.
So if you love Biochemistry in the medical aspect this is for you. It can also be used as a prerequisite for other medical courses.
Where can I work?
* Hospitals:
Although Medical laboratory Scientists offer this course, Many Hospitals do employ the graduate to man their Biochemistry Lab
* Research Institute:
Since Life is made of molecules, Medical Biochemists can be employed to work with ongoing trend of Drug Interactions, vaccines and Healthy foods.
* Teaching: The more feasible one. They can work to train various health students on the issue of Medical Biochemistry
CONS
* Limited Job openings
* The issue of Medical laboratory Scientists
* Poor Research Facilities.

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Re: Truth Of Medical And Allied Health Courses by Abbanazeeza(m): 10:11pm On Oct 25, 2020
Job well done bro. So interested to know these.. keep on the nice move. I'd like to see that of HUMAN MEDICINE

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Re: Truth Of Medical And Allied Health Courses by Cetacean419: 11:00pm On Oct 25, 2020
MEDICINE AND SURGERY (Human Medicine):
The most sort after Medical course in the World. There are three brothers in Medicine which are Medicine and Surgery, Dentistry and Veterinary Medicine. These are the pure Medical Courses. The remaining ones are allied health sciences except Nursing.
WHY?
It is the most "prestigious" course in the world since its philosophy is based on Disease treatment(Saving life) rather than taking care of patients which is Nursing.
Can you adapt to stress, Effectively Communicate, Do smart work, Read, Have a strong stomach(Seeing Rubbish and Irritating things), Have Empathy and Show compassion, Patience and Consistency, Enthusiasm to learn and Conscience.This is for you. You didn't see prestige right?

Your Love for Humans and Saving Lives is just a preamble to the course and a different ball game entirely. It will come to play when you have to deal with emergencies, Break a bad news of death to your patients, deal with nervous patients, deliver a baby, have to know drug interactions before you kill someone and Endure burn out.
There are Some benefits of studying Medicine and Surgery:
* Seeing a Patient recover and Thank you is the Most rewarding ever.
* Learn from Mistakes and improve
* Get a Good Pay
* Prestige and Respect
* Be a strong advisor in Health of Someone
* Think Fast,talk fast and with precision.
* You are highly sort for in every country because of your skill.
NOTE: Don't study medicine if you don't have patience or you are unwilling to help people. Don't do it for the money or prestige because when none comes the way you want it, you will be forced to do wrong things like; Sustaining Someone illness which is bad, treating someone for a cause that is not there, abortions and lying.
Where Can I work?
* Hospitals both private and Public
* Armed Forces
* Research Facilities
* Food Industries
*Public Health
*Teaching Facilities
* Pharmaceuticals
There are so many specialities to pick from which you can check yourself
Medicine in Nigeria
CONS:
* It is not everyone who will specialise
* You may not get the income you are looking for
* Incessant strikes
* Poor Facilities and Poor environment.
* Harassment and Bullying
* Never Do Medicine because you think you are intelligent because Intelligence doesn't necessarily pay alot in Med school.
*Never Do it because of peer,family and Society Pressure because you alone will be responsible for your actions not them.
* Never Do it for money because frustration might lead you to evil.
* Never Do it for fame because you may end up being a local dejected champion.

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Re: Truth Of Medical And Allied Health Courses by samuelpeters(m): 11:12pm On Oct 25, 2020
@ OP, you are doing well.
We will still argue one or two but let me allow you to conclude everything.

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Re: Truth Of Medical And Allied Health Courses by Cetacean419: 11:42pm On Oct 25, 2020
MEDICAL LABORATORY SCIENCE:
Clinical laboratory sciences (also known as medical technology or medical laboratory science) is a biology/chemistry-based bachelor's degree that prepares students for exciting, challenging and dynamic careers in places such as hospital labs and clinics, forensic labs, veterinary clinics, industrial research labs and molecular biotechnology labs.
Professionals in this field analyse blood, urine, tissue, and other body specimens. These test results play an important role in the detection, diagnosis, and treatment of diseases.
MEDICAL LABORATORY SCIENCE IN NIGERIA:
Medical laboratory science is very versatile considering the fact that tests must be run all the time for efficient diagnoses.
If you don't want to work directly with treating patients but you want to have an impact in their lives then this is for you. If you don't mind looking at semen, vomits, faeces, blood, urine and other body fluids, this is for you?
CONS:
* You are not Licenced to diagnose patients and if you as a Patient seek them for help it is done at your own peril.
* You are not permitted to tell patients confidential stuffs involving their health.
* Your career growth is tied to Laboratory Medicine(Pathology) whether in health or sciences. You report to the Pathologist often times. The highest you can be is a Laboratory Manager or a more rewarding PhD(Doctor), Lecturer or Professor.
* You must be sound in Chemistry and Mathematics.
* Industries are becoming saturated with Lab scientist.
* Poor And Ill-equiped laboratories.
ANOTHER BENEFIT IS THAT YOU CAN RUN YOUR LABORATORY ACCORDING TO THE MLSCN ACT WHICH MAKES YOU AN ENTREPRENEUR.
This is purely mine and not general so feel free to educate and correct.

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Re: Truth Of Medical And Allied Health Courses by Odoctor(m): 1:16am On Oct 26, 2020
KINGJAJA888:
How Useful is Radiography
The best place to be after medicine. Even better than pharmacy as long as Nigeria is concerned. The face of modern medicine. Go for it, if you are a jambite
Re: Truth Of Medical And Allied Health Courses by Cetacean419: 6:44am On Oct 26, 2020
Odoctor:

The best place to be after medicine. Even better than pharmacy as long as Nigeria is concerned. The face of modern medicine. Go for it, if you are a jambite
Personally Comparing Pharmacy and Radiography is like comparing Apples and Oranges.
How I wish you compared it with Med lab it would have been Okay.
Radiographers assist radiologist to provide Clearer pictures of images and assisting patient to the X-ray room and getting those Images as clearly and accurate as possible.
The Medical Laboratory Scientist is supposed to assist the pathologist to get results of test majorly body fluids then communicate it to the Pathologist more often times or Sometimes to the Physician.
From History you will see that Radiography and Clinical Laboratory Science was designed to aid the Radiologist and Pathologist because they will be too busy reading films of X-rays and slides respectively. I can't Imagine a Radiologist handling CT-Scan, MRI machines were he has other important diseases to diagnose.
IN NIGERIA EVERYBODY WANT TO BE IMPORTANT AND INDEPENDENT NOT MINDING THE HEALTH OF PATIENTS.
I HAVE NOT SEEN IN A BIG HOSPITAL WERE THEY SAID THAT THEY WANT TO SEE A RADIOGRAPHER OR A MEDICAL LABORATORY SCIENTISTS. OR HAVE YOU?
It is only when you have attained a Masters in Diagnostic Radiography you can diagnose patient a bit independently of a Radiologist but you must seek a Radiologist for Real issues.
Pharmacy is quite far from Medicine not to talk more of Radiography.
BE GUIDED @ODOCTOR

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Re: Truth Of Medical And Allied Health Courses by samuelpeters(m): 9:20am On Oct 26, 2020
Most times, i prefer to make people understand how the health Care system works.

Health workers are divided into Primary health care providers and Allied health care providers.

Primary health care providers are professionals that work almost independent of one another and could work even in the most remote/rural area with little or no modern tools.
They are the foundation of what we come to know as modern medicine.
These professionals are Medicine/Dentistry, Pharmacy and Nursing.

Allied health care providers are professionals that are created due to evolution in medicine.
Their services specifically, is to help the primary care providers to work effectively. These professionals use modern technology in medicine to carry out their job(which makes their job more technical).
Examples are: Medical Radiography, Medical Laboratory Science, Physiotherapy (though has evolved real fast),dental technology, pharmacy technology and other courses he listed above are all answerable to their specialists in the field of either Medicine/Dentistry, Pharmacy and Nursing.

From the above, you can see that i didn't list Anatomy, Physiology, Medical biochemistry, Pharmacology as allied courses because these courses are not meant to be studied at undergraduate level.
Why??
Because it is a stepping stone for other licenced professionals(Primary and Allied) to be effective in their various field.
That means, if you really love these courses(anatomy etal), after obtaining your degree in (Primary/Allied), you can now go for postgraduate in those stepping stone courses.

NB: I will be calling Anatomy, physiology, Medical biochemistry, Pharmacology as Stepping Stone courses. To reduce stress.


From History, Allied providers started as assistants to these PRIMARY professionals with educational requirements as low as primary/secondary school certificate. Later, they(allied) pushed to develop their own curriculum as science continue to evolve and technology continues to be applied in Medicine. Infact these PRIMARY professionals helped in designing the curriculum of these other ALLIED professionals, not for the latter to be equal to the former but for BOTH to work effectively in these Modern days.
Example: No matter how Radiographers would claim they know in Radiation Medicine, they can't beat these Specialists (Radiologists) in the field of Radiation Medicine. Same with Pharmacy Technology in Pharmacy, same with Medical Laboratory Science in Pathology, same with physiotherapy in Orthopedic Medicine, same with Dental Technology in Dental Medicine and so on.

Like i said, these allied providers can go for postgraduate (Masters and PhD in their own field or in the field of stepping stone courses) but can NEVER be an authority in the field. Because the postgraduate is academically based not professionally based like we have in Postgraduate College of Medicine,Nursing and pharmacy which make these people specialists in the field till they get to CONSULTANCY status.

In the western world, some of these postgraduate colleges now admit allied courses but with another path which can also make these allied courses Consultants in their fields.

But in Nigeria, this is the problem we have in the Health Sector.
Medicine(NMA) vs.Others(JOHESU). The former do not want the latter to evolve to its full potential. while the latter are also not serious with upgrading themselves but think by virtue of Masters and PhD should give them Consultancy which is not so(they should all be looking at building their own postgraduate colleges or make peace with Doctors to allow them pass through their own).

Another problem are these stepping stone courses.Universites admit them knowing fully well they have no place in the health field in the undergraduate level. Because normally these courses are suppose to be in the postgraduate level for Primary and Allied courses to Master and do PhD in them or even if they are in undergraduate level, the degree should be used to gain admission into PRIMARY/ALLIED courses not to go look for jobs grin

Make i stop here. At least this should give you all an idea on which one to choose for JAMBITES.
personally, i will never advice anyone to study these stepping stone courses.

It is better you do allied courses because they are also licensed to carry out their job and are almost independent in private practice. while stepping stone courses are not, thereby leading to frustration.

Note: I focused more on Allied courses because they are not so popular and majority in these courses wanted medicine initially. So it is important you know what you are getting into.

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Re: Truth Of Medical And Allied Health Courses by samuelpeters(m): 9:46am On Oct 26, 2020
Since most of una, na money una want then na Pharmacy( people go surely de buy drugs nacheesy)

Radiography(this one na because them de scarce only 6 universites de do am fr Naija).

MLS don almost de saturated not because of MLS themselves but because MLS field cut across some other courses and as per naija weh we de na, anything goes.
MLS; Histopathology major rendered Anatomy almost useless
MLS; Hematology major rendered physiology almost useless
MLS; Clinical Chemistry/Medical biochemistry/Chemical pathology major rendered Medical biochemistry and pure biochemistry weh wn enter medicals almost useless.
MLS;Medical microbiology major rendered Microbiology almost useless.
Chai i love this course cheesy
All these people weh dm render almost useless na Medicine dm want bfr JAMB do them wonders. So after graduation, they find out that they cannot work in a Lab or even own a Lab without Licence from MLS.
so they go fr training in all these private labs,learn one or two, then open their own Lab or start working there.
Wetin i de talk?? If you bring everybody weh de work for Lab today, 80% no be MLS at all..na just Quackery just like Nurse Eliza for Nursing.
But if you meet a real professional in these field you go respect them. grin grin
And graduates of these courses de deal with them quacks anytime dm wn do smell small cheesy

Nursing people too much, you go see work oh but no be better pay sha but you can't be jobless.

Physiotherapy nna, work scarce but e no de too affect them because universites weh de offer the course no reach 7)

Medicine/Dentistry; baba them,i de alwyx respect these guys. Omo their pay de bad compared to their suffering. Na until dm become Specialists everywhere go con de soft. undecided

All these tinx are just strictly in the Heath Field oh...you can decide to work anywhere. Or join am with side hustle angry

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Re: Truth Of Medical And Allied Health Courses by TrustworthyQ: 11:09am On Oct 26, 2020
@Cetacean419 Pls Shed light on Radiography for me. Would love to know the Pros and Cons of the course biko cry.
Re: Truth Of Medical And Allied Health Courses by Cetacean419: 11:54am On Oct 26, 2020
samuelpeters:
Most times, i prefer to make people understand how the health Care system works.

Health workers are divided into Primary health care providers and Allied health care providers.

Primary health care providers are professionals that work almost independent of one another and could work even in the most remote/rural area with little or no modern tools.
They are the foundation of what we come to know as modern medicine.
These professionals are Medicine/Dentistry, Pharmacy and Nursing.

Allied health care providers are professionals that are created due to evolution in medicine.
Their services specifically, is to help the primary care providers to work effectively. These professionals use modern technology in medicine to carry out their job(which makes their job more technical).
Examples are: Medical Radiography, Medical Laboratory Science, Physiotherapy (though has evolved real fast),dental technology, pharmacy technology and other courses he listed above are all answerable to their specialists in the field of either Medicine/Dentistry, Pharmacy and Nursing.

From the above, you can see that i didn't list Anatomy, Physiology, Medical biochemistry, Pharmacology as allied courses because these courses are not meant to be studied at undergraduate level.
Why??
Because it is a stepping stone for other licenced professionals(Primary and Allied) to be effective in their various field.
That means, if you really love these courses(anatomy etal), after obtaining your degree in (Primary/Allied), you can now go for postgraduate in those stepping stone courses.

NB: I will be calling Anatomy, physiology, Medical biochemistry, Pharmacology as Stepping Stone courses. To reduce stress.


From History, Allied providers started as assistants to these PRIMARY professionals with educational requirements as low as primary/secondary school certificate. Later, they(allied) pushed to develop their own curriculum as science continue to evolve and technology continues to be applied in Medicine. Infact these PRIMARY professionals helped in designing the curriculum of these other ALLIED professionals, not for the latter to be equal to the former but for BOTH to work effectively in these Modern days.
Example: No matter how Radiographers would claim they know in Radiation Medicine, they can't beat these Specialists (Radiologists) in the field of Radiation Medicine. Same with Pharmacy Technology in Pharmacy, same with Medical Laboratory Science in Pathology, same with physiotherapy in Orthopedic Medicine, same with Dental Technology in Dental Medicine and so on.

Like i said, these allied providers can go for postgraduate (Masters and PhD in their own field or in the field of stepping stone courses) but can NEVER be an authority in the field. Because the postgraduate is academically based not professionally based like we have in Postgraduate College of Medicine,Nursing and pharmacy which make these people specialists in the field till they get to CONSULTANCY status.

In the western world, some of these postgraduate colleges now admit allied courses but with another path which can also make these allied courses Consultants in their fields.

But in Nigeria, this is the problem we have in the Health Sector.
Medicine(NMA) vs.Others(JOHESU). The former do not want the latter to evolve to its full potential. while the latter are also not serious with upgrading themselves but think by virtue of Masters and PhD should give them Consultancy which is not so(they should all be looking at building their own postgraduate colleges or make peace with Doctors to allow them pass through their own).

Another problem are these stepping stone courses.Universites admit them knowing fully well they have no place in the health field in the undergraduate level. Because normally these courses are suppose to be in the postgraduate level for Primary and Allied courses to Master and do PhD in them or even if they are in undergraduate level, the degree should be used to gain admission into PRIMARY/ALLIED courses not to go look for jobs grin

Make i stop here. At least this should give you all an idea on which one to choose for JAMBITES.
personally, i will never advice anyone to study these stepping stone courses.

It is better you do allied courses because they are also licensed to carry out their job and are almost independent in private practice. while stepping stone courses are not, thereby leading to frustration.

Note: I focused more on Allied courses because they are not so popular and majority in these courses wanted medicine initially. So it is important you know what you are getting into.

I think I must correct you in terms of the "Stepping stone courses". They are done as standard undergraduate courses in many countries in the World. The Stepping stone you say produced so many Enterprising books in the World and Nigeria.
Although many of them are jobless but many work as lecturers,environmental Sanitation Officers in Nigeria, Have big Morgues all over Nigeria and Oversee Drug Production in Nigeria.
I can List Names of Many Anatomists that are working in the Police Forensic, I can List many Biochemist,Physiologist and Pharmacologist Working in LUTH and some working Along vets in Abbatoirs.
More than 2 decades growing up we as Science students gwere taught only these things in Order to succed.
* Be a Nurse for females only which is a pure Hoax
* Study Medicine and be called a Doctor and Leave Nigeria
* Study Pharmacy so you can open a Big Chemist Shop
* Be an Engineer and Construct things
* Be an Architect so you will be Famous and get contracts worth Millions of Naira
The other courses are all Crap because Nigerian Society told us So not because of it were true and all other courses were all Alien until some were given them in University and We all hated and we will struggle to come out of it delve into another field or just use it to study bigger Money making courses.
This same Mindset will always creep in when you all grow up and understand that Love is Key and Not what Society says so.
I ended up in Agriculture because my love for it and I don't regret Engineering.
I ALWAYS SAY THAT MEDICAL COURSES DOESN'T MAKE YOU RICH. Just do a simple business and boom you are in Money. Abi is The Richest Doctor Richer than Dangote or Elon Musk. Is the Biggest hospital Network richer than NAPA VALLEY
If you're after money you will hate yourself and you think you can travel out is easy? That's a Hoax. You think because they pay Doctors 150k abroad and above means they're are rich.
CHECK HOW MUCH PERCENT GOES TO INSURANCE,BILLS AND SCHOOL DEBTS THEN YOU WILL KNOW HOW FAR. Do yo

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Re: Truth Of Medical And Allied Health Courses by govtjobsalert: 12:56pm On Oct 26, 2020
Re: Truth Of Medical And Allied Health Courses by samuelpeters(m): 1:04pm On Oct 26, 2020
Cetacean419:

I think I must correct you in terms of the "Stepping stone courses". They are done as standard undergraduate courses in many countries in the World. The Stepping stone you say produced so many Enterprising books in the World and Nigeria.
Although many of them are jobless but many work as lecturers,environmental Sanitation Officers in Nigeria, Have big Morgues all over Nigeria and Oversee Drug Production in Nigeria.
I can List Names of Many Anatomists that are working in the Police Forensic, I can List many Biochemist,Physiologist and Pharmacologist Working in LUTH and some working Along vets in Abbatoirs.
More than 2 decades growing up we as Science students gwere taught only these things in Order to succed.
* Be a Nurse for females only which is a pure Hoax
* Study Medicine and be called a Doctor and Leave Nigeria
* Study Pharmacy so you can open a Big Chemist Shop
* Be an Engineer and Construct things
* Be an Architect so you will be Famous and get contracts worth Millions of Naira
The other courses are all Crap because Nigerian Society told us So not because of it were true and all other courses were all Alien until some were given them in University and We all hated and we will struggle to come out of it delve into another field or just use it to study bigger Money making courses.
This same Mindset will always creep in when you all grow up and understand that Love is Key and Not what Society says so.
I ended up in Agriculture because my love for it and I don't regret Engineering.
I ALWAYS SAY THAT MEDICAL COURSES DOESN'T MAKE YOU RICH. Just do a simple business and boom you are in Money. Abi is The Richest Doctor Richer than Dangote or Elon Musk. Is the Biggest hospital Network richer than NAPA VALLEY
If you're after money you will hate yourself and you think you can travel out is easy? That's a Hoax. You think because they pay Doctors 150k abroad and above means they're are rich.
CHECK HOW MUCH PERCENT GOES TO INSURANCE,BILLS AND SCHOOL DEBTS THEN YOU WILL KNOW HOW FAR. Do yo
Bro calm down grin
We ain't fighting.
Its not about being rich or poor. Our focus is medical courses and medical field.

When you calm down to look at my post very well, you would see I didn't attack these courses in any form. I only differentiated what many of us do not know in the health industry in Nigeria and the world at large.

Care to know what a professional course and a professional degree means?
Let me put it this way, some courses are professional courses but are not professional degrees. Example: Accountacy. You will only become a professional accountant by virtue of ICAN and other certification.

Lets narrow it down to Medicals.
All Medical courses except these ones i called "stepping stones" are professional courses and are also professional degrees. Example: MBBS, B.MLS, Pharm.D, B.Nsc, B.Rad, B.MR/DPT e.t.c. These are professional degrees at the same time professional courses because they are all certified/given licence and also inducted into their various professional bodies at the end of their studies, still go for a COMPULSORY uninterrupted 1year training under a certified professional before giving a permanent License for NYSC and Labour Market.

Can that be said about Anatomy, Physiology, Medical Biochemistry, Pharmacology with just BSc.

When you read my post very well, i made mentioned that Universites are greedy. Knowing fully well there is no cut clear path for these courses in the health field. Especially in their undergraduate level/degree.

Ideally, ALL Anatomy, physiology, Medical biochemistry and Pharmacology graduates are supposed to either go back for Medicine/Dentistry/Allied courses or FURTHER to postgraduate.
But what we have is someone with BSc.Anatomy looking for a job after 4years+NYSC. Someone with little or no practical training in the field.

Check round the world, graduates from these courses further into Medical School or Postgraduate School.

All you said about lecturers in these stepping stone courses is correct. Mind you, some are doctors with Masters and PhD in those courses and some are pure breed with Masters and PhD. No one is just with BSc.

So try and get my point.

I'm not saying they can't be successful(I'm not God), all I'm saying is that these universites are the ones not doing it right. Graduates of these courses should also know their BSc. In any of these courses is not the end in itself especially in the Health field. They should thrive to further into postgraduate or medical school or look for a job elsewhere.

Because few of them got job in forensic lab and other sweet places doesn't negate the fact that these courses are a DEAD END if you want to look for a job with just your Bachelors in the health field.

Note: Most love these courses along the line because these courses are purely Medical and they also mix up with other Medical students. They are all treated equally/special in school until they graduate then reality sets in because majority hope to work in the health field but they do not have licence in any of the field.

Can a BSc. Anatomy carry out complex tissue processing in Histopathology Lab more than MLS; Histopathology Major that did practicals, clinical posting from 3rd yr- 5th yr, 1yr internship, 1yr NYSC
That is how many years experience again?

I Love them( I have some as friends). I want peace to reign everywhere i find myself but you also have to do the right thing and tell people the truth.


That is just it.
There is even a thread here on Nairaland about these courses. So many complains from different quarters.

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Re: Truth Of Medical And Allied Health Courses by Cetacean419: 1:59pm On Oct 26, 2020
samuelpeters:

Bro calm down grin
We ain't fighting.
Its not about being rich or poor. Our focus is medical courses and medical field.

When you calm down to look at my post very well, you would see I didn't attack these courses in any form. I only differentiated what many of us do not know in the health industry in Nigeria and the world at large.

Care to know what a professional course and a professional degree means?
Let me put it this way, some courses are professional courses but are not professional degrees. Example: Accountacy. You will only become a professional accountant by virtue of ICAN and other certification.

Lets narrow it down to Medicals.
All Medical courses except these ones i called "stepping stones" are professional courses and are also professional degrees. Example: MBBS, B.MLS, Pharm.D, B.Nsc, B.Rad, B.MR/DPT e.t.c. These are professional degrees at the same time professional courses because they are all certified/given licence and also inducted into their various professional bodies at the end of their studies, still go for a COMPULSORY uninterrupted 1year training under a certified professional before giving a permanent License for NYSC and Labour Market.

Can that be said about Anatomy, Physiology, Medical Biochemistry, Pharmacology with just BSc.

When you read my post very well, i made mentioned that Universites are greedy. Knowing fully well there is no cut clear path for these courses in the health field. Especially in their undergraduate level/degree.

Ideally, ALL Anatomy, physiology, Medical biochemistry and Pharmacology graduates are supposed to either go back for Medicine/Dentistry/Allied courses or FURTHER to postgraduate.
But what we have is someone with BSc.Anatomy looking for a job after 4years+NYSC. Someone with little or no practical training in the field.

Check round the world, graduates from these courses further into Medical School or Postgraduate School.

All you said about lecturers in these stepping stone courses is correct. Mind you, some are doctors with Masters and PhD in those courses and some are pure breed with Masters and PhD. No one is just with BSc.

So try and get my point.

I'm not saying they can't be successful(I'm not God), all I'm saying is that these universites are the ones not doing it right. Graduates of these courses should also know their BSc. In any of these courses is not the end in itself especially in the Health field. They should thrive to further into postgraduate or medical school or look for a job elsewhere.

Because few of them got job in forensic lab and other sweet places doesn't negate the fact that these courses are a DEAD END if you want to look for a job with just your Bachelors in the health field.

Note: Most love these courses along the line because these courses are purely Medical and they also mix up with other Medical students. They are all treated equally/special in school until they graduate then reality sets in because majority hope to work in the health field but they do not have licence in any of the field.

Can a BSc. Anatomy carry out complex tissue processing in Histopathology Lab more than MLS; Histopathology Major that did practicals, clinical posting from 3rd yr- 5th yr, 1yr internship, 1yr NYSC
That is how many years experience again?

I Love them( I have some as friends). I want peace to reign everywhere i find myself but you also have to do the right thing and tell people the truth.


That is just it.
There is even a thread here on Nairaland about these courses. So many complains from different quarters.
I couldn't agree more.
There's a kid I know that is always communicating with me He was saying that He loves Biology and Mathematics and he wants a Medical course but he didn't want medicine and Pharmacy. For example he comes to you for advice what will you give him.
His parents has already budgeted him and His brother for Pharmacy medicine Respectively. Funny the way parents do things.
I told him to consider Radiography and Medlab or he should for Chemistry purely.
Re: Truth Of Medical And Allied Health Courses by Herbephe1(m): 2:44pm On Oct 26, 2020
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Re: Truth Of Medical And Allied Health Courses by samuelpeters(m): 3:26pm On Oct 26, 2020
Cetacean419:

I couldn't agree more.
There's a kid I know that is always communicating with me He was saying that He loves Biology and Mathematics and he wants a Medical course but he didn't want medicine and Pharmacy. For example he comes to you for advice what will you give him.
His parents has already budgeted him and His brother for Pharmacy medicine Respectively. Funny the way parents do things.
I told him to consider Radiography and Medlab or he should for Chemistry purely.
Parents ehh cheesy cheesy
You can't blame them sha....
Most times in Nigeria its not about what you love. Tastes change with time and the country also changes people's taste( if the desirable is not available, the available becomes the desirable).

Biology and Maths will go well with Radiography preferably, then pharmacy and MLS.

But the truth is that mathematics is not really that important in medical courses,its more of basic arithmetics here and there and you are good.
Biology and Chemistry are the backbone of Medicine.

Radiography needs Biology and Physics/little maths due to calculation done in sophisticated machines.
Pharmacy needs sound Chemistry,little Biology/Maths.
MLS needs Sound Chemistry and Biology.

He should look at the advantages and disadvantages of these courses here in Nigeria and also beyond.

You can see only Radiography fits his love for maths and biology. Though he should sharpen his physics skill.

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Re: Truth Of Medical And Allied Health Courses by Cetacean419: 5:25pm On Oct 26, 2020
Do you love people, Do you like seeing your hardwork pay even when it takes months,Do you have patience, Do you like effective Communication, Do you like sharing stories with people and Encouraging people never to Give Up?
Do you want a Course you won't want to always see blood? Then this course is for you.
Medical Rehabilitation should not be confused with Rehabilitation medicine. While the the first doesn't diagnose diseases but work on using Physical therapy inclined to Clinical to help people regain health(Physical), the Latter is a branch of medicine which involves diagnosing,proffering and preparing healthy plans for recovery. It involves studying the disability and Ability of individuals in Relation to their Health.
Medical Rehabilitation and physiotherapy are same with slight differences.
Where can I work?
* Orthopaedic Hospitals and General Clinics
* With the Military for Rehabilitating Victims of movement injuries
* With Sport Industries to rehabilitate injured Sport persons.
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CONS:
* A field which you need to actually use your muscles which might be strenuous
*A field where you can readily Loose your cool
* Not a high pay typically 80k and above
* Not so much openings
* You might be slapped or pushed because of patients pain and agony
ONE BENEFIT IS THAT YOU FORM A STRONG BOND WITH PATIENT.

Re: Truth Of Medical And Allied Health Courses by Odoctor(m): 8:00am On Oct 27, 2020
Cetacean419:

Personally Comparing Pharmacy and Radiography is like comparing Apples and Oranges.
How I wish you compared it with Med lab it would have been Okay.
Radiographers assist radiologist to provide Clearer pictures of images and assisting patient to the X-ray room and getting those Images as clearly and accurate as possible.
The Medical Laboratory Scientist is supposed to assist the pathologist to get results of test majorly body fluids then communicate it to the Pathologist more often times or Sometimes to the Physician.
From History you will see that Radiography and Clinical Laboratory Science was designed to aid the Radiologist and Pathologist because they will be too busy reading films of X-rays and slides respectively. I can't Imagine a Radiologist handling CT-Scan, MRI machines were he has other important diseases to diagnose.
IN NIGERIA EVERYBODY WANT TO BE IMPORTANT AND INDEPENDENT NOT MINDING THE HEALTH OF PATIENTS.
I HAVE NOT SEEN IN A BIG HOSPITAL WERE THEY SAID THAT THEY WANT TO SEE A RADIOGRAPHER OR A MEDICAL LABORATORY SCIENTISTS. OR HAVE YOU?
It is only when you have attained a Masters in Diagnostic Radiography you can diagnose patient a bit independently of a Radiologist but you must seek a Radiologist for Real issues.
Pharmacy is quite far from Medicine not to talk more of Radiography.
BE GUIDED @ODOCTOR
I only laugh. Lol. Honestly you r correct, but I put emphasis on 'NIGERIA' .A radiographer is better of.
Re: Truth Of Medical And Allied Health Courses by SOLADEMIABIODUN(m): 8:53am On Oct 27, 2020
@cetacean,what do u mean by pharmacy is far from medicine
Re: Truth Of Medical And Allied Health Courses by Cetacean419: 10:05am On Oct 27, 2020
SOLADEMIABIODUN:
@cetacean,what do u mean by pharmacy is far from medicine
Pharmacy and Medicine are not too close.
The only thing they do which is common is Biochemistry,Pathology, Anatomy, Physiology and Pharmacology. This is what is common to both disciplines. Doctors know Zero or little about Pharmaceutical Science and Pharmacist knows Zero or little about Medical procedures except checking Bp,Injections and Cleaning Injuries.
So you see?
Re: Truth Of Medical And Allied Health Courses by samuelpeters(m): 10:42am On Oct 27, 2020
Cetacean419:

Pharmacy and Medicine are not too close.
The only thing they do which is common is Biochemistry,Pathology, Anatomy, Physiology and Pharmacology. This is what is common to both disciplines. Doctors know Zero or little about Pharmaceutical Science and Pharmacist knows Zero or little about Medical procedures except checking Bp,Injections and Cleaning Injuries.
So you see?
They are not even Close at all.
Very independent of one another.
Reason why they are not even in the same school(Pharmacy school and Medical school).

The only thing they have in common on a standard knowledge are
Biochemistry and Pharmacologyy.

Anatomy, physiology and Pathology are just brush courses in pharmacy school. Not too deep like Medical students.

I'm not saying you are wrong oh cheesy

Because they are not close is the reason why Pharmacy is not under College of Medicine. The former, some times, is situated in the Main campus while Medicals cross to College which is very close to the university teaching hospital or they all cross but are independent.
Re: Truth Of Medical And Allied Health Courses by SOLADEMIABIODUN(m): 11:24am On Oct 27, 2020
@Cetacean,are pharmacists authorized to administer injection

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