Some claim it exists only in the imagination of those who invoke it, while many believe in it's efficacy and potency.
Which side of the divide do you stand? No sitting on fence here .

seyi360:
Some claim it exists only in the imagination of those who invoke it, while many believe in it's efficacy and potency.
Which side of the divide do you stand? No sitting on fence here .

Holy Ghost fire is as real as day. Ask for it...it's also called refiner's fire..capable of burning up evry satanic habit just like it killed d taste for sin in the life of St. Augustine and many firebrand Christians

Truth is,
The Holy Spirit is a Person. He has will, emotion, intelligence, feelings, etc. He is the Spirit of God.

Now,
Fire is an effect, a demonstration, a result, of the workings of the Holy Spirit.
Another context of Fire is that of God being a Consuming Fire. He consumes His enemies.

To answer your question,
I haven't come across a place where the Disciples or Jesus invoked the "Holy Ghost Fire".
Yes,
We can call down fire, but not "Holy Ghost fire"...as we call it.

HRHQueenPhil:
Holy Ghost fire is as real as day. Ask for it...it's also called refiner's fire..capable of burning up evry satanic habit just like it killed d taste for sin in the life of St. Augustine and many firebrand Christians

ROFLMAO!


Did Jesus Christ know of this? Obviously not because when Jesus Christ told Peter that Satan has requested to test him, Peter, like a farmer tests his wheat. Jesus Christ, must have forgotten to call on this ghost fire to destroy Satan.

Luke 22 vs 31-34 (ERV)
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31. “Satan has asked to test you men like a farmer tests his wheat. O Simon, Simon,[c]
32. I have prayed that you will not lose your faith! Help your brothers be stronger when you come back to me.”
33. But Peter said to Jesus, “Lord, I am ready to go to jail with you. I will even die with you!”
34. But Jesus said, “Peter, before the rooster crows tomorrow morning, you will say you don’t know me. You will say this three times.”

Because instead Jesus Christ told Peter that He had prayed for him, Peter, not to loose his faith during the test. He must have forgotten to call on this ghost fire you speak of to burn Satan to ashes instead.

By the way, the Apostle Jude warned against your thinking it your place to rebuke Satan. He made it clear that even the Angels did not even rebuke Him directly, so you should never attempt such.

Jude 1 vs 20-23
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17. Dear friends, remember what the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ said would happen.
18. They told you, “In the last times there will be people who laugh at God and do only what they want to do—things that are against God.”
19. These are the people who divide you. They are not spiritual, because they don’t have the Spirit.
20. But you, dear friends, use your most holy faith to build yourselves up even stronger. Pray with the help of the Holy Spirit.
21. Keep yourselves safe in God’s love, as you wait for the Lord Jesus Christ in his mercy to give you eternal life.
22. Help those who have doubts.
23. Rescue those who are living in danger of hell’s fire. There are others you should treat with mercy, but be very careful that their filthy lives don’t rub off on you.
8. Yet in like manner these people also, relying on their dreams, defile the flesh, reject authority, and blaspheme the glorious ones.
9. But when the archangel Michael, contending with the devil, was disputing about the body of Moses, he did not presume to pronounce a blasphemous judgment, but said, “The Lord rebuke you.”
10. But these people blaspheme all that they do not understand, and they are destroyed by all that they, like unreasoning animals, understand instinctively.

seyi360:
Some claim it exists only in the imagination of those who invoke it, while many believe in it's efficacy and potency.
Which side of the divide do you stand? No sitting on fence here .

It really exists.

It's the Fire that was in the burning bush that Moses saw which wasn't being consumed.

It's the Fire that appeared and sat on the heads of the apostles and the others on the day of Pentecost.

It's the same Fire that burns in me.

It's the Fire of life, so it's meant to heal and save men's lives not destroy them.

God bless.

seyi360:
Some claim it exists only in the imagination of those who invoke it, while many believe in it's efficacy and potency.
Which side of the divide do you stand? No sitting on fence here .

old testament believers won't ask this question!

Yes, there is. IT is The Light of God

HRHQueenPhil:
Holy Ghost fire is as real as day. Ask for it...it's also called refiner's fire..capable of burning up evry satanic habit just like it killed d taste for sin in the life of St. Augustine and many firebrand Christians

Give us scriptures and explain

CaptMarvel:
old testament believers won't ask this question!

Don't box me yet, you can't be sure where I stand

Goshen360:


Give us scriptures and explain

https://www.openbible.info/topics/holy_spirit_fire all d references u want is there

HRHQueenPhil:
https://www.openbible.info/topics/holy_spirit_fire all d references u want is there

You're speaking in tongues without interpretation. Give us one scripture that says Holy Ghost FIRE. All you did was go to a website that conjured all kinds of scriptures that doesn't address the question.

HRHQueenPhil:
Holy Ghost fire is as real as day. Ask for it...it's also called refiner's fire..capable of burning up evry satanic habit just like it killed d taste for sin in the life of St. Augustine and many firebrand Christians

Malachi 3:2 “But who can endure the day of His coming? And who can stand when He appears? For He is like a refiner's fire and like fullers' soap.

We Christians should be careful to say a lot of things that have no scriptural backing and thereby leading many people to hell.

The scripture above shows that Christ is like the refiner’s fire, and not the inanimate use of the word “it” you used to describe Him. Even Malachi was using a comparison and not the crude interpretation you gave. If studying the Bible is not your forte, stop commenting so that your words will not kill the soul.

There is nothing like “Holy Ghost Fire” in the scriptures; the only thing that burns up satanic habit is the Grace of sanctification according the gospel. If the scripture is your love, you would know that in contrast to the fire of terror of Mount Sinai, the fire of assurance and comfort is what burns on Mount Zion, the same fire that caused the ‘burning bush’ not to burn.

Acehart:


Malachi 3:2 “But who can endure the day of His coming? And who can stand when He appears? For He is like a refiner's fire and like fullers' soap.

We Christians should be careful to say a lot of things that have no scriptural backing and thereby leading many people to hell.

The scripture above shows that Christ is like the refiner’s fire, and not the inanimate use of the word “it” to describe Him. Even Malachi was using a comparison and not the crude interpretation you gave. It studying the Bible is not your forte, stop commenting so that your word will not kill the soul.

There is nothing like “Holy Ghost Fire” in the scriptures; the only thing that burns up satanic habit is the Grace of sanctification according the gospel. If the scripture is your love, you would know that in contrast to the fire of terror of Mount Sinai, the fire of assurance and comfort is what burns on Mount Zion, the same fire that caused the burning bush not to burn.

Does the term Holy ghost power exist?

Goshen360:


You're speaking in tongues without interpretation. Give us one scripture that says Holy Ghost FIRE. All you did was go to a website that conjured all kinds of scriptures that doesn't address the question.

What about Holy ghost power?

seyi360:
What about Holy ghost power?

According to the gospels, the Spirit of God is in fact the same power that lived inside Jesus Christ.

P.S. For those who are not aware, there is no record of Jesus Christ invoking or calling fire from the Holy Spirit within Him, nor from Heaven, to burn down --demons, devils, and enemies included.

There's nothing as such, God destroyed Noah's rebellious contemporaries through a global deluge, if we're to go by the logic of Churchgoers there should be "Holy Ghost deluge/rain"

God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah with hail Holy Ghost hail

God struck Egypt with different plagues so the should be Holy Ghost ~ snakes, water turn to blood, frogs, gnats, hails, flies and so on shey?

God splitted the red sea hence Holy Ghost divider!

God demolished Jericho hence Holy Ghost bulldozer!

God made sun to stand still hence Holy Ghost stoppage!

God turned the fairy furnace Nebuchadnezzar threw the three Hebrews into air conditioner hence Holy Ghost cooler!

God caused Mary to get pregnant without sex hence Holy Ghost conception!

So the idea of Holy Ghost fire is propagated by hardhearted and stubborn religionsists who are nursing the idea of taking vengeance into their own hands in contrast to what Jesus taught us to forgive and pray for our enemies.
Jesus' followers also had the same line of thought but he rebuked them! Luke 9:51-56

MaxInDHouse:
There's nothing as such, God destroyed Noah's rebellious contemporaries through a global deluge, if we're to go by the logic of Churchgoers there should be "Holy Ghost deluge/rain"

God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah with hail Holy Ghost hail

God struck Egypt with different plagues so the should be Holy Ghost ~ snakes, water turn to blood, frogs, gnats, hails, flies and so on shey?

God splitted the red sea hence Holy Ghost divider!

God demolished Jericho hence Holy Ghost bulldozer!

God made sun to stand still hence Holy Ghost stoppage!

God turned the fairy furnace Nebuchadnezzar threw the three Hebrews into air conditioner hence Holy Ghost cooler!

God caused Mary to get pregnant without sex hence Holy Ghost conception!

So the idea of Holy Ghost fire is propagated by hardhearted and stubborn religionsists who are nursing the idea of taking vengeance into their own hands in contrast to what Jesus taught us to forgive and pray for our enemies.
Jesus' followers also had the same line of thought but he rebuked them! Luke 9:51-56

You took it too far, whatever happened in the old testament was the effect of God's direct dealings without any intermediary.
Attaching the Holy ghost to rain, bullzoder, divider all of which happened in the old covenant is a trivialization of the subject and an attempt to disrupt the order of dispensational dominance by members of the Trinity.
However, you're right about the conception of virgin Mary which was a function of Holy ghost intervention .

Hence, let's focus on the Holy ghost dominated new testament .

That means there shouldn't be any mention of Holy Ghost activities in the old covenant shey?

OK what about other Ananiah and Sapphira been killed hence Holy Ghost killer!

Paul got blind hence Holy Ghost blindness!

Herod was struck and maggots eat him at the stance Holy Ghost maggots!

The truth is God's holy spirit works in various ways so laying undue emphasis on fire is totally out of sense!

seyi360:


You took it too far, whatever happened in the old testament was the effect of God's direct dealings without any intermediary.
Attaching the Holy ghost to rain, bullzoder, divider all of which happened in the old covenant is a trivialization of the subject and an attempt to disrupt the order of dispensational dominance by members of the Trinity.
However, you're right about the conception of virgin Mary which was a function of Holy ghost intervention .

Hence, let's focus on the Holy ghost dominated new testament .

MaxInDHouse:
That means there shouldn't be any mention of Holy Ghost activities in the old covenant shey?

OK what about other Ananiah and Sapphira been killed hence Holy Ghost killer!

Paul got blind hence Holy Ghost blindness!

Herod was struck and maggots eat him at the stance Holy Ghost maggots!

The truth is God's holy spirit works in various ways so laying undue emphasis on fire is totally out of sense!

Kindly do me the honor of explaining the "power" in Acts 1:8 " But ye shall receive power after that the Holy ghost comes on you..........

seyi360:


Kindly do me the honor of explaining the "power" in Acts 1:8 " But ye shall receive power after that the Holy ghost comes on you..........

Let me try to make this clearer.
When Jesus said, "and ye shall recieve POWER...",
The power here is an enablement, an effect, (just as in the case of the FIRE). Jesus was trying to portray that, whenever one recieve the Holy Ghost upon you, He deposits POWER on you, and this enable you to become a witness unto Him and the Host of Heaven.
This power is not a person, but like an energy at work in you, a propelling force to do what you couldn't do before, or ever think of doing.
This power only comes by the effect of the Holy Spirit/the Spirit of God. (Check both the Old and New Testaments).

In conclusion, the Holy Ghost Power is an effect, not an entity, just as the Holy Ghost Fire. These are dimension He (the Spirit) manifests Himself.

seyi360:


Does the term Holy ghost power exist?

Of course it does. It’s just a description of the power of the Holy Ghost. Any and all of the following are descriptions of His power:

1. By the power of the Holy Spirit Jesus was conceived in the womb of the Virgin Mary.
2. He is the giver of life. (Gen. 7:22, 2:7; Romans 8:11; John 6:63).
3. He is God; therefore, He is all-powerful (Gen.1:2). He is the Spirit of God and Christ.
4. He gives the power, nine-fold, behind the Church of Christ.
5. The power of the Holy Spirit acts and speak through the disciples of Jesus in time of need: "Be not anxious beforehand what ye shall speak: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye; for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Spirit."
6. It makes a baby in the womb to have the power to communicate with the mother.
7. He gives power for prophecy to be fulfilled. He makes true prophecy accurate.
8. The Holy Spirit was the "life principle" of the early Church.
9. He gave Jesus the power to be successful when He was in the flesh.
10. He gives power for confession of Christ as Lord.
11. He makes the sinner believe the gospel. He who leads persons to the Father and the Son. He acts to convince the unredeemed person both of the sinfulness of their actions and of their moral standing as sinners before God.
12. He is everywhere.
13. He casts out demons (Matt.12:28).
14. He is the leader of the New Covenant order (Romans 8:14)
15. Through Him, one is obedient to the Father: He led Jesus to be crucified out of obedience to the father, Hebrews 9:14 states that Jesus "through the eternal Spirit offered himself without blemish unto God".
16. He is the Sanctifier, Comforter, and the Giver of graces.
17. He is The Creator Spirit, present before the creation of the universe and through his power everything was made in Jesus Christ, by God the Father.
18. The Holy Spirit enables Christian life by dwelling in the individual believers and enables them to live a righteous and faithful life.
17. He alone enables interpretation of the scriptures, for each saint and the church. He gives inspiration to believers.
18. He is anonymous.

When next you think of the term “Holy Ghost Power”, think of these things. Anything outside what the scriptures speaks of Him is falsehood. If there is any fire that should be attributed to Him, it is the fire that burns in a believer to glorify Christ.

Hrhqueenphil, captmarvel, shawn001, Acehart and others who have commented, I commend the attitude showcased so far. No insults, no mockery, just clean arguments brought to the table.

Let me attempt to exegete Acts 1:8

"But ye shall receive power after that the Holy ghost is come upon you"

The word "power" is from the Greek word " dunamis" translated as "explosive power"

From which we have the 2 English words
1 Dynamite - explosive and destructive power
2 Dynamo - constructive power

Let's espouse on the dynamite dimension of the word "dunamis". We all know that there can be no explosion without fire. In fact, all explosions lead to fire. Whether it's banger, gas or grenade explosion, the result is fire. Hence, explosion and fire are inseparable.
Thus, if the power in Acts 1:8 is an explosive power in the original Greek text, does that not suggest to us that the power promised is the type of power which is laced with fire.

In fact , when a bomb is activated. After the bang, what you see is fire. The fire continues to burn long after the explosion sound disappears.

On this premise, if there is such thing as Holy ghost power, it stands to reason that Holy ghost fire also exists.
The fire is in the power
The Greek word "dunamis" lends credence to this.

That was a brief etymology of the "Power" mentioned in Acts 1:8

No one knows it all, we are all learning.

The power has nothing to do with the useless slogan Churchgoers are spewing up and down.

Jesus himself explained what will be the aftereffect of the power "you will be Witnesses of me throughout the world"
What Jesus preached and taught doesn't sound palatable in the hears of arrogant, rebellious and stubborn religionsists, it was because of his speeches that he was killed, and Jesus maintained his calmness all through even when he has the power to unleash God's wrath on his enemies.
So the power is to change the natural ways his followers will respond respond to criticism and maintain their stance on the teachings of their leader even in the face of fierce opposition.
Not to start expecting God to come and intervene to destroy same people you're preaching to with the intention to convert.
So in this respect i can tell you categorically that the one and only group in possession of this power are Jehovah's Witnesses!
I know stubborn and arrogant Churchgoers will come up to argue blindly but when you're saying something yet there is no evidence of what you're trying to establish it simply means what you're saying is false. Only Jehovah's Witnesses are the evidence that what Jesus taught in action could be observed in the activities of his followers all other religions are just for lip service!

seyi360:


Kindly do me the honor of explaining the "power" in Acts 1:8 " But ye shall receive power after that the Holy ghost comes on you..........

seyi360:


What about Holy ghost power?

Nothing like Holy Ghost power.

Look at this...

You shall receive POWER AFTER that the Hoy Ghost has come upon you.

He shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with power.....the conjuction in the Greek reads....the Holy Ghost WHICH IS power or WHICH IS WITH power.

How God anointed Jesus Christ of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost AND (WHICH IS) power.