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Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Afam4eva(m): 8:43am On Jan 19, 2022 |
aribisala0:Your last point is flawed because the Ikwerres themselves claimed they migrated from Bini and learned the language they currently speak due to their trade with Igbo people. So, based on that, it's not their original language and those names are Igbo names. 1 Like |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by aribisala0(m): 9:16am On Jan 19, 2022 |
Afam4eva: What is my point exactly that is "flawed"? Do you have evidence for this claim that Ikwerre claim they learnt the language from Ibos? Now I am not wanting to argue it. It is a very simple yes or no question If Yes share the evidence if not please stop quoting me because I have no interest in any pointless back and forth Let me point out to you that it is not MY POINT I am not a linguist I am not Kay Williamson the foremost authority on Igbo Language/linguistics who classified Ikwerre as a Language in its own right Your assumption about "The language" is what is flawed there is no one Igboid language rather there are many. Ikwerre is not mutually intelligible with the central Ibo language. OPEN THE IKWERRE BIBLE How much of the Ezza language is understood by other Ibo speakers 1 Like |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Igboid: 12:51pm On Jan 19, 2022 |
aribisala0: What exactly is central Igbo? Igbo is spoken in dialects. Ikwerre language is surely intelligble with Igbo clans (Ohaji/Egbema/Ass/Ndoki) they share boundaries with, because the dialects are similar in intonation. I have lived in PH before and I understood Ikwerre spoken there. You are not Igbo and you are not Ezza, yet you know that Igbos don't understand Ezza, no be juju be that? Igbos who are Ezza neighbors, ie Ehugbo (Afikpo), Ishielu (Nkalagu and Ezillo people), Amagunze ( Nkanu) all understand Ezza , because of similar intonation. It takes an attentive Igbo whose clan doesn't speak Ezza intonation highest two weeks to start understanding everything Ezza people say. Also Afam has a point. Ikwerre people have always claimed that the language they speak today is as a result of interactions (marriage and trade) with Igbos. Which means they lost their Bini language somehow and copied Igbo language of their Igbo neighbors (Ohaji, Egbema, etc), which they subsequently modified to produce what you call Ikwerre language today. So basically, they owe their language to Igbo language and their language is only but a derivative (a dialect if you like) of the Igbo language. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by aribisala0(m): 12:58pm On Jan 19, 2022 |
Igboid:I am not interested in widening the discussion to an infinite number of subjects Can you provide evidence for your claim that Ikwerre people have always claimed whatever about their language I have confined myself to language not "Ikwerre people" otherwise we get into another debate like who are Ikwerre people The point is that Ikwerre is classified as a language distinct from Ibo by experts who know more than you who did so before you were born Here you are making assertions not based on any expertise or scholarship because you like the fragrance of your opinions |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Sergio104(m): 10:50pm On Apr 12, 2022 |
Omo the kind wahalla I saw for in this thread ehh.....I can't explain. Abeg who is this TAO11........is she a historian?? To win an argument with her...... you must have a pure proved fact. if not.....she gonna send you to the shoel . Many niggrrs suffered in this thread Well our Bkayy, ekealterego, 9pluto, Igboid, Pazienza, Slayerforever and many other titans we've got here will give her an upper hand . They will humble her if such thread comes up again. Bkayy my man!! Outta here!!!! 2 Likes |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Orhogbua: 6:46pm On Jan 26, 2023 |
[/b][b] TAO11: Im sorry but do you have quotes from traditional monarchs or any sources for these claims and to say that the itsekiri werent conquered is false considering up till the times of nana of olomu were oaying tribute to benin |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by AutomaticMotors: 11:13am On Jan 27, 2023 |
gregyboy: I could feel his tears dropping on my phone screen |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by christistruth01: 6:56pm On Jan 27, 2023 |
TAO11: Tao11 you are being missed Happy New year Hope everything is ok |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by gregyboy(m): 7:44pm On Jan 27, 2023 |
christistruth01: He/she ran out of lies or probably accepted the truth |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by macof(m): 12:25am On Jan 28, 2023 |
gregyboy:lmao. her posts are still here you have not been able to rebute 3 Likes |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by christistruth01: 4:30am On Jan 28, 2023 |
gregyboy: Tao11 and others silenced you with the Truth over and over and over again and you ran out of lies 3 Likes |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Xchii: 11:03am On Feb 02, 2023 |
TAO11:😂😂😂😂 |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by bundarina: 11:51am On Feb 06, 2023 |
samuk: Igbos didn't develop Lagos or Abuja, Yoruba and Hausa did respectfully, you naked savage swinging tits and dangling joysticks primitives are so insecure in your none relevance in history that you spew lies to give yourself some relevance and meaning. Pathetic! When you're not claiming Jews like some cultural Inferior imbeciles, you're claiming developing another man's land while you can't ever develop yours? Even if your lie was true Nigeria is still a glorified third world country, so it makes you look even more stupid. It's okay igbos, to be naked dancing Zulu tribes men , no need to claim other people's achievements, lands, culture, Attires, foods, etc. Jeez. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Xchii: 4:35pm On Feb 06, 2023 |
bundarina:I just checked your replies and I can only summarize how brutal you are😭🙌🏾. I hope you engage and put these flesh eating Osu miscreants in their place. We civilized these heathens. 1 Like |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by bundarina: 1:45pm On Feb 14, 2023 |
Xchii: I only know how to give vawlence for their lies based on their insecurity and inferiority complex. But it's all the truth, and even they know it, though they love to hide from it🤷. They should give us awards and kiss our feet for civilizing them, if they were greatful people. No lies and ego soothing on Nairaland anymore, that's my campaign promise 😂. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Xchii: 9:15pm On Feb 14, 2023 |
bundarina:i hope you login more on this forum 👌😂... I love your vawulence, after election these nyamiris will surely hear from us... Many of them are on Tiktok trying to claim everything they copy from us. It's a known fact Yoruba women civilized those naked ibo women but today they have pages pushing propagandas m 1 Like |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by bundarina: 9:41pm On Feb 14, 2023 |
Xchii: Facts o. I saw it, I laugh taya. Fighting for their lives, embarrassing 😂. I'll be here more 🤣👌 1 Like |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Xchii: 9:44pm On Feb 14, 2023 |
bundarina:when they have no history and culture, they'll do everything to claim other people's culture. Glad to have you here |
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