Lawsaite:
He said security men who shot in the air. Meaning it's not only one person that fired shots.
He went on to say a stray bullet had hit a vendor.


Then he concluded the stupendous lie with, the official that fired the shot has been suspended pending investigation.

Shey the bullet has tag ni? To know from whose gun it came from.

This lie is not only horrible but bloody. That governor should be held accountable.

I am a law student and in law Employers are vicariously liable, under the respondeat superior doctrine, for negligent acts or omissions by their employees in the course of employment (sometimes referred to as 'scope and course of employment').

That officer should be released immediately and the speaker should bear the full brunt of the law.


But in Nigeria here, anything goes. It's always left for God to judge

Those quoting me and saying otherwise, I actually don't have your time.
I expect you to apply such daft reasoning when your relative is in such a similar situation.

Mynd44:
https://twitter.com/femigbaja/status/1329599247428292612?s=19

stieyven:

Love your enemies and bless those who curse you and pray for those who despitefully use you. LUKE 6 :28

SmartyPants:


Does vicarious liability apply in criminal cases?

Less talking, more reading.

Lawsaite:

Do your research and don't come here to quote me unnecessarily again, did you hear me?
When I applied vicarious liability I fully understood what's involved. On whose command where the policemen acting upon?

nastyesco:
All these rubbish Polithiefians will come and be forming enlightened and speaking English...English kee you

I dedicate this to my girlfriend wey jilt me for another dude because he dey Canada. I go soon pass IELTS.

SmartyPants:


lol.

Whats your problem?

Do you understand the distinction between criminal and civil matters? When you are talking about a person giving an order to shoot, that is no more vicarious liability. So did Mr. Femi give the order to shoot? Where did you get that piece of info?

Abeg carry your wahala and go. I am only guiding you - if you refuse to learn that is okay by me.

Adonisteve:
that's why I mentioned it earlier that I didn't support the evil act. There was no need to shoot at all in the first place.

Lawsaite:
He said security men who shot in the air. Meaning it's not only one person that fired shots.
He went on to say a stray bullet had hit a vendor.


Then he concluded the stupendous lie with, the official that fired the shot has been suspended pending investigation.

Shey the bullet has tag ni? To know from whose gun it came from.

This lie is not only horrible but bloody. That Speaker should be held accountable.

I am a law student and in law Employers are vicariously liable, under the respondeat superior doctrine, for negligent acts or omissions by their employees in the course of employment (sometimes referred to as 'scope and course of employment').

That officer should be released immediately and the speaker should bear the full brunt of the law.


But in Nigeria here, anything goes. It's always left for God to judge

Those quoting me and saying otherwise, I actually don't have your time.
I expect you to apply such daft reasoning when your relative is in such a similar situation.

crackhaus:
I actually like Femi Gbajabiamila, a very eloquent man – anytime I come across him speaking at the house of reps, he always seems very different from the average Nigerian politician.

At least he publicly admitted what happened and has offered his condolences, unlike a certain woman by the name of Abike Dabiri who acted like she didn't hear how one of her security details killed someone.

crackhaus:
I actually like Femi Gbajabiamila, a very eloquent man – anytime I come across him speaking at the house of reps, he always seems very different from the average Nigerian politician.

At least he publicly admitted what happened and has offered his condolences, unlike a certain woman by the name of Abike Dabiri who acted like she didn't hear how one of her security details killed someone.

CapitalHYC:
Hmmmmm I have never seen a government that kills it's citizens as this stupid one we are witnessing currently

Where is that foolish Mannabbgrills all these while self

Lawsaite:


Did you just ask me about the distinction between civil and criminal cases?
It seems you're out of law textbooks, it wouldn't have cost you more than a minute to Google if vicarious liability applies in Criminal cases since it seems you're too weak to consult your texts.
But no, you decide to battle it out with me while spilling gibberish.
Do I understand distinction between...

Did Me femi give the order to shoot? . So the policemen were firing the shots for their own safety abi sake? No oo, the policemen just decided to fire shots cause I mean, they felt threatened. Try and reason like a common man

SmartyPants:


Alright let me apologize for my initial harsh approach. Let's go strictly legal. You are partly right in that there is indeed some application of vicarious liability in the sphere of criminal law. However, you are emphatically wrong in the sense that the general rule is that vicarious liability, owing to the twin concepts of actus reus and men's rea, cannot practically be applied to any criminal matter in the common law jurisdictions.

The exceptions to this rule are only when a statute expressly states otherwise.

Now, you are doubly wrong by attempting to apply vicarious liability to this situation, and here is why:

1. The speaker of the house can issue orders to his security staff but certainly is not likely to have done so because the security aides are not likely to have consulted with him on such a basic tactical decision. Every convoy has its own commander who issues tactical orders.

2. Even the person who gave the order cannot be held vicariously liable, because, vicarious liability by definition is the imputation of the actus reus of one person to another who allegedly has the men's rea. In this case, the person who gives the order is a principal offender by virtue of possessing both the men's rea and actus reus.

3. When a police officer errs, vicarious liability would be on police through the IGP, yet, in a criminal matter, it is the same IGP that will initiate prosecution of the police officer. What you are therefore saying, is that the police would prosecute and defend itself in the same case. How?

If you insist, I would welcome Nigerian case law as evidence of your position.

Lawsaite:
He said security men who shot in the air. Meaning it's not only one person that fired shots.
He went on to say a stray bullet had hit a vendor.


Then he concluded the stupendous lie with, the official that fired the shot has been suspended pending investigation.

Shey the bullet has tag ni? To know from whose gun it came from.

This lie is not only horrible but bloody. That Speaker should be held accountable.

I am a law student and in law Employers are vicariously liable, under the respondeat superior doctrine, for negligent acts or omissions by their employees in the course of employment (sometimes referred to as 'scope and course of employment').

That officer should be released immediately and the speaker should bear the full brunt of the law.


But in Nigeria here, anything goes. It's always left for God to judge

Those quoting me and saying otherwise, I actually don't have your time.
I expect you to apply such daft reasoning when your relative is in such a similar situation.

Babanah:
Nigeria should have an Independent Police Compliants Commission to investigate the use of firearms by the police.
This is what happens in civilised countries. Once you discharge your firearm. The policeman in question is required to log a report on circumstances, number of firearms discharged etc. It will be now left for the commission to determine if the firearm was used lawfully or not.
This happens every time shots are fired by the police.
I think this will bring about some sanity with regards to the use of firearms.

Donspicey:
Gbajamiamila's security detail shot another unarmed Nigerian going about his business few hours ago. This was in the glare of all present and within few minutes another police van came and bundled the body away. If this had been in the nighttime, I'm sure Kai Mohammed would have tagged it fake news or that the people around were trying to attack the senators convoy and the police had to shoot to protect him.
Even now that they've carted the body (the only evidence) away, we expect the government to start to lie that no shooting occured. We expect their defenders here and other social media to attack the carrier's of the news, challenging them to provide proof of any shooting by providing the pictures of the dead body or that any family should come forward to claim that they have a son who is a vendor in Abuja who is missing.