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Re: Adaka Boro: Vindicating The Hausas And Yorubas by Iykoto86(m): 2:54am On Jan 25, 2021
If only you know how useless this your post is right now. The igbos of nigeria have paid the price and are still paying as we speak while being very successful in trade and industry. The fulanis on the other hand are going for the forest reserves.just face it ,this guys are not same.
Re: Adaka Boro: Vindicating The Hausas And Yorubas by Deadlytruth(m): 7:10am On Aug 14, 2021
Rugaria:

How did he change the political landscape that ushered in military regimes? I don't understand how we reach conclusions sometimes. He stopped a coup which he was not part of. Even danjuma that killed him has come out to say he was angry with the man for not putting the coupists on trial quickly.Ironsi rounded the whole coupists and had them in jail until the day he was killled. A counter coup was organized against him, not necessarily because of what he has done but mainly as a result of the actions of the coupists he arrested. A coup he quelled singlehandedly by the way!

Without Ironsi, that Nzeogwus coup would have succeeded, which in my on appraisal should have been a good deal for Nigeria. Unless you are blaming him for being so politically naive in appointing nothern officers into strategic positions (something I consider to be a crime against humanity with the benefit of hindsight) or for thinking about a unitary system(a policy thrust he never lived to implement), Otherwise, the man should be left alone. Those who really destroyed Nigeria, came after Ironsi not before him. Those abusing him for the situation of the country today while not mentioning the likes of Gowon, murtala, Buhari, Babangida or Abacha are only being mischievous..
Per the first bolded; Let us put on our thinking caps and consider the following historical scenarios:
1. During the Biafra War when Ojukwu found out that Ifeajuna was plotting with the Nigerian side a ceasefire truce which would end up with he himself (Ojukwu) being killed and Ifeajuna taking over the reigns of power to lead Biafran soldiers into surrendering, he got Ifeajuna arrested and wasted no time in wasting him.

2. When investigations revealed that Henry and Charles Okar were the masterminds of the October 1 2010 Abuja bomb blast that would have killed Jonathan, we all recall that Jonathan, gentle as they say he is, did all he could to have these two brothers killed or at least jailed forever. Even when they escaped justice through the Nigerian judiciary Jonathan went as far as looking for alternative help in the South African judiciary which paid off for him.
When Dimkar was caught, Obasanjo made sure he was wasted soon afterwards because as Murtala Mohammed's vice, a successful Dimkar coup would have taken his own life too.
Then IBB would even kill anyone he saw in his dream plotting a coup against him.

The above instances show that when someone in power uncovers an assassination plot against him, it is natural for him to do all he can with his position to kill the masterminds of that plot within the shortest possible time.
But in Ironsi's case, despite it was later unravelled by his own investigation that Ifeajuna, Nzeogwu and the rest had him in their hit list, he wasn't alarmed into trying to waste them but chose strangely to gloss over them and kept them in detention trying to find soft landing for them. That leads to the logical conclusion that he actually had a prior knowledge of the coup and in fact worked hand in hand with the plotters who didn't actually meant to kill him but just put his name on the hit list to make the whole plot appear nationalistic at the planning stage
Per the second bolded, his evil Unification Decree was totally uncalled for because if the remote causes of the crisis (which was Balewa's misrule founded on his illegal interference in the purely intra-Western Region power tussle between the two AG factions, and his rigging of the 1962 census and rigging of the 1965 election in the West) he claimed to want to address were anything to go by, then common sense dictated he should have further weakened the center through centrifugal decrees. But his decision to do the exact opposite (i.e. his promulgation of a centripetal Unification Decree which further strengthened the center and weakened the regions) could only be explained as a manifestation of a hidden agenda which if he was allowed to fully implement would obviously put every other tribe at a permanently disadvantaged position under his own Igbo tribe exactly the way it is with Nigeria now under Fulanis but temporarily. So your attempts to absolve Ironsi of complicity in the mess Nigeria finds herself today is based on a very simplistic analysis of the issues back then.
In essence it could be rightly deduced that the North continued in his unitary system ways after ousting him because they felt such was the only possible way to forever put the now confirmed Igbo domination agenda in check.

Per the third bolded; I want you to honestly answer this question:
If after purportedly stopping the coup, Ironsi had simply sworn in the Dipcharima thrown up by the Parliament as Balewa's, replaced the slain premiers with their deputies, courtmartialled the coupists and then returned to the barracks as a professional career soldier, would any other military officer have ever contemplated staging a coup in Nigeria again? Would the likes of Gowon, Murtala Mohammed, Obasanjo, IBB, Buhari and Abacha have ever smelled power let alone acquired it to come and do worse than Ironsi as you allege? Would the civil war have happened?
Anyhow you choose to look at it, Ironsi sowed the seeds of the Nigerian tragedy.

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Re: Adaka Boro: Vindicating The Hausas And Yorubas by Deadlytruth(m): 7:28am On Aug 14, 2021
Elvictor:


and Obasanjo, he is worse idiot ever I wonder why he wasn't killed, a greedy bastard.
I can see that you are from Rivers or Bayelsa State and share my belief that Obasanjo is one of the worst things that happened to this country. I am not from either Rivers or Bayelsa and don't take me for a Yoruba either, however I like to ask this question: But why do some persons from your area still regard Obasanjo as a hero and even eulogize him as a nationalist despite the genocide he ordered in Odi? Worse is that the genocide happened in November 1999 and in the 2003 election Obasanjo swept clean the votes of these two states. How come?

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Re: Adaka Boro: Vindicating The Hausas And Yorubas by Deadlytruth(m): 7:39am On Aug 14, 2021
Rugaria:


Yaraduas regime came to an end the very moment Dora Akunyili, a minister under his administration came out to rail against "cabals".. You guys should stop rewriting history! The Igbo support for the SS has been there and will always be there because of the fact that a sizeable chunk of the SS are either Igbos! Or biologically/culturally close to the igbos! It takes a lot of nerve to rewrite recent history sooo brazenly! The so called SS as a regional grouping is basically the brainchild of Igbo delegations to the national conference under Abacha! Otherwise, most probably, they will still be under the former eastern Nigeria. It was the likes of Ekwueme and co that supported that idea. In that same conference, the idea of resource control/derivation was mentioned, guess what? It was only the SS and the SE that were left together to do the fighting. Even the SW that was hitherto parroting their support for resource control was nowhere to be found..
The bolded deviates from the present narrative being peddled by IPOB and majority of Igbos who now assert that the SS was a creation by the Fulani controlled Federal Government to turn the Niger Deltans against their supposed Igbo brothers while ignoring the Fulani cabal stealing their crude oil. So who between you and Nnamdi Kanu should be believed now? Or were the Alex Ekueme and others you credit with the creation of the SS Fulanis back then during the Abacha Constitutional Conference through which you say they pushed for the creation of the region?

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Re: Adaka Boro: Vindicating The Hausas And Yorubas by Deadlytruth(m): 7:52am On Aug 14, 2021
Elvictor:
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Yoruba are reaping the sins of Obasanjo, if the Hausa|Fulani win't run away from Nigeria after 2023 general election they will reap theirs.
While I am not Yoruba, I don't seem to get this your lumping of Yorubas into the Obasanjo misrule and atrocities. If Yorubas had had their way in 1999 Obasanjo wouldn't have been recycled as Nigeria's president. In fact Obasanjo lost that election woefully in all the six Yoruba states. It was the SE and SS that did their traditional and historical collision with the hegemonic North to vote Obasanjo into power with campaign jingles like 'he is detribalised, he is a patriot, he is contesting under the only truly national party unlike the others contesting through regional pressure groups, he is a unifier, blah, blah, blah.....'
So I am yet to see how it is the fault of Yorubas that Obasanjo was given the opportunity to rule Nigeria again despite his atrocities of the Land Use Decree of 1978, his 1977 Decree which transferred schools from the missionaries to the Hausafulani-controlled military FG which marked the beginning of the fall of education standards in Nigeria, his 1978 constitutional conference through which Professor Nwabueze further transferred 50% of concurrent and residual lists items to the exclusive list, etc.

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Re: Adaka Boro: Vindicating The Hausas And Yorubas by Deadlytruth(m): 9:43am On Aug 14, 2021
Elvictor:


it seem like you don't know what Obasanjo has done, do you know that Obasanjo was the one who pass the law that FG should have control of all resources? I should leave Yoruba race out of it? When he gave Lagos the power to control all their resources during his reign, I should leave Yoruba race out of it when they were using their media to change the narrative of Niger Delta struggles and paint us in bad light?

It seems you never heard about how Obasanjo withheld Lagos State's allocation for three years over Lagos State's creation of LCDAs which was itself a positive contribution to the fight for resource control. Then you also obviously didn't hear about Obasanjo's overruling of Lagos State's proposal to build an independent power plant which again was another pro-restructuring project. You also never heard about Lagos State's sponsorship of a Sovereign National Conference among the members of the civil society in 2005 to discuss the issue of restructuring against which Obasanjo quickly organized a parallel version to sabotage that of Lagos State.
You obviously still have a lot of research to do on how and exactly which tribe abolished resource control and which tribe has been in the forefront of all agitations to restore it.
The only instance where a Yoruba man, other than Obasanjo, acted in a way that was inimical to the struggle for restructuring towards the restoration of resource control was in 1978 and that was when Rotimi Williams colluded with Professor Nwabueze to propose a transfer of more items from the concurrent and residual lists to the exclusive list. Outside that, no other example exists.
The mere fact that majority of Yorubas deride and despise Obasanjo for using federal military might to humiliate and destroy the legacies of Awolowo who is known as the father of Nigerian federalism and was himself the leading advocate of resource control should be instructive enough as to why you should not rub Obasanjo's folly and anti-resource control policies on all Yorubas. Neither of Obasanjo's two times rise to power received the support of Yorubas. I am not by this implying that there are no Yorubas who blindly make a hero out of Obasanjo, but such are in the minority among them and the percentage membership of Obasanjo Fan club relative to the entire Yorubas population is far less than the percentage of his SS fans relative to the entire SS people ironically.

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Re: Adaka Boro: Vindicating The Hausas And Yorubas by wealthtrak: 9:13pm On Mar 04, 2022
valirex:
Those who arrested and sentenced Isaac Adaka Boro to death for declaring Niger Delta Republic were neither Hausa-Fulanis nor Yorubas but two supposed brothers of his and Biafrans named Odumegwu Ojukwu and Aguiyi Ironsi who were still on the side of Gambaris and still trying to please them as at then. For declaring Niger-Delta Republic Ironsi, the then military head of state, ordered Ojukwu to get Isaac Boro arrested for treason. Ojukwu, in an attempt to please Gambaris, fought Isaac Boro for 14 days within which he used federal might of “one-Nigeria” to kill 150 soldiers loyal to Isaac Boro, caught Isaac Boro, stripped him naked and sent him over to Lagos where Ironsi charged him to court and within just 2 months got him convicted, at the Supreme Court, of treasonable felony of trying to break away from Azikiwe’s one Nigeria, got him sentenced to death by hanging. While Ironsi​ and Ojukwu did all that to Isaac Boro​, they left untouched their own Igbo brother soldiers who planned a coup with which they killed Innocent Hausas, Yorubas, Niger Deltans, Middle belters leaving Igbo politicians unharmed despite they, like Zik and Okpara, were part and parcel of the corrupt Balewa government. However, before Ojukwu and Ironsi could execute their sentence on Isaac Boro God intervened and the counter coup happened. Ironsi was overthrown and killed. Gowon took over declared Isaac Boro innocent and released him. But just fifteen months later Ojukwu too declared Biafra Republic due to the way Igbos were being killed in the North. In declaring Biafra, rather than first apologise to Isaac Boro for what he earlier did to him and then ask for his cooperation in fighting to realize the Biafra dream, Ojukwu did nothing like that but without consulting Boro at all went as far as arrogantly including in his Biafra map the very Niger Delta areas which Isaac Boro earlier tried to pull out of Nigeria and which he (Ojukwu) nearly killed him for. This angered Isaac Boro and Ken Saro Wiwa who both pledged support for Gowon in order to teach Ojukwu a bitter lesson for his arrogance and dishonesty. That was why Isaac Boro and Saro Wiwa fought on the side of Gowon during the war. Naturally Isaac Boro couldn’t have come out of prison to join the Ojukwu who jailed him and fight against the Gowon who released him. It would have been absurd. No rational human being does that. This is the truth of what happened and which Igbos hate to hear but prefer to blame everyone else as if they themselves were 100℅ innocent. Igbos must learn to say the truth because if the Biafra/Niger Delta Republic they now seek is founded on lies and deliberate falsehood, like Nigeria, it will not stand but will soon become a failed state like Nigeria. We can’t leave Nigeria for another Nigeria. But we however know that Igbos allergy to truth is incurable, therefore Niger-Delta states will never be part of Biafra.
Re: Adaka Boro: Vindicating The Hausas And Yorubas by Onepeople: 10:14pm On Mar 04, 2022
AlexBells:

No we got speak sense to the inconsequential haters, so they don't destroy themselves on hate, Adaka borro was wallowing in this form of hate, if the capital of Eastern Region was at Enugu and the Refinery was built in PH, its because they are Igbo areas, Akwa/Cross was in the region, they did not protest but one who studied in Igbo land, why can't he protest now that the capital of Nigeria is in Abuja and Kaduna gets Refinery and Northerners owns oil wells lol,
the people are confused i swear, they hated igboman for obvious reasons that could have been tolerated, today they are having it worst under one Nigeria but can't complain because nobody will listen to them, the bridge of brotherhood have been destroyed.
Re: Adaka Boro: Vindicating The Hausas And Yorubas by Onepeople: 10:21pm On Mar 04, 2022
I don't want to believe the only reason adaka boro betrayed the igbos and jettisoned the interest of his people in his pursuit of one Nigeria was as a result of ojukwu arrogance to him.that sound stupid,shallow and myopic to me , and the greater niger delta joined him without knowing his intentions.

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Re: Adaka Boro: Vindicating The Hausas And Yorubas by nku5: 6:00am On Mar 05, 2022
Lol

This thread sweet me pass morning wine. I had forgotten all about it grin

Liars cried blood that day grin grin

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