PhiliptheArab:


And after you people will be calling lai mohammed lie

The refinery in Niger has been in operatipn since 2011. It is a JV between the Niger government and the chinese oil company CNPC

No Nigerian ownership at all

You can google for more information

That's what u will see on google but its also owned by a nigerian

Josywhyte:


That's what u will see on google but its also owned by a nigerian

What is the name of the Nigerian.? Where is the proof that the said Nigerian owns it?

I am going to ask you to put up your proof by 5.30 pm today Nigerian time or forever hold your peace

Meanwhile...here is my proof...

Type: Oil Refinery

Area: Zinder

Crude Oil Source: Agadem Oil Field

Installed Capacity: 20,000 barrels per day

Products: Gasoline, Diesel Fuel, Fuel Oil, LPG

Owner: Société de Raffinage de Zinder (SORAZ)

Shareholders: China National Petroleum Corporation (CNPC) (60%), Government of Niger (40%)

Activity Since: 2011

SOURCE SORAZ ZINDER OIL REFINERY

Also

Zinder refinery
The JV refinery between CNPC and Niger Government is located at the southern city of Zinder, with a designed crude processing capacity of 1Mt/a. In October 2008, foundations were laid for the Zinder refinery. On November 28, 2011, Zinder Refinery became operational, marking the completion of the Phase-I Agadem upstream and downstream integrated project.

2012 witnessed the first full year of the operation of our upstream-downstream integrated projects in Niger, which achieved excellent performance in oilfield production, pipeline operation, and crude refining. Zinder Refinery smoothly fulfilled its operating objectives, and produced diesel, gasoline, and LPG products meeting local market demand. In 2014, Zinder Refinery was overhauled and fulfilled the annual production target. In 2015, the refinery achieved safe, steady and efficient operation.

In 2016, Zinder Refinery made significant progress in negotiations with Sonidep on sales and pricing of oil products and signed a new sales agreement.

SOURCE : CNPC in Niger

SmartPolician:


Prayer kee you there!

I don't know when the black Africans will have sense

What have prayers done for you in the past 6 decades?

You cannot pour sharp sand into your soup and turn around to pray to God to remove the sand.

Maybe you need to know that your leaders have shares in some of those refineries in countries they purchase PMS from that's why they are not interested in fixing the refineries here.

The useless NNPC that is supposed to manage Nigeria's upstream and downstream oil sectors is busy building hospitals even though it doesn't have any refineries that produce to optimal capacity.

Nigerian leaders are not corrupt; they just don't have sense. But then, their followers are even more stupid.

The youths need to take this country back from these idiotic leaders by force.

EndSARS needs to have a sequel: #EndBadLeadership

Don't mind them. Let them keep praying. Irredeemable fools.

Josywhyte:


That's what u will see on google but its also owned by a nigerian

It is 5.35 pm now...and you have not given me the name of the Nigerian who owns the Nigerien refinery or how much stake he has in said refinery.

So, no proof....

You better stop lying online. It is not good.

NGpatriot:


You are the one missing the point.

The point and the topic is Nigeria importing fuel from Niger, not about building refineries.

The largest single refinery in the world is about to be commissioned here in Nigeria with more than enough capacity to satisfy our needs with much more to export for foreign exchange, stop crying over spill milk.

Thank you! When all these wailing was going on tbh I forgot Dangote refineries and how it is the largest in the world. Truth be told, Nigeria didn't just invest that refinery there for investment sake, there's more to this than the eye can see, it's obviously for the good of Nigeria border wise, especially now France wants to take over our one currency for the western African countries.

Free people who don't know politics, they think its only about the lying...

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Here I was thinking you had something tangible to show.
Gerrarahere man!!

Misterone:
Oga we have more advanced and complicated structures than refineries in Nigeria and they are working perfectly. a case in point is the LNG, EGTL, etc. the problem with the refineries is that they keep making losses. who sustains a company that keeps making losses month in month out? you sell below market price with an overbloated staff that cannot be downsized due to unionism, favouritism and government policy of quota system and you expect government to keep sustaining the rot with scarce resources that can be use for infrastructures? as it is now the government cannot keep up with these inefficiencies just because of pride, no.

Are the refineries working at all?
You do realise that the refineries keep making losses because they're not producing. In the 80s when they were producing, they were making profit.
Stop putting the cart before the horse. It's production that leads to a profit not vice versa.
Govt should clear the rot by getting the refineries in good shape instead of paying lipservice to it for narrow interest's sake

PhiliptheArab:


Well the refienreis can work if we go back to, from your history...the statu quo ante in the 1980's when NNPC was making a profit.. Plus allowing NNPC to run as a private company.

Because for me, I don't trust government companies. And I don't trust government running the petroleum sector. unless they wish to run it at a profit. (Like Niger. On Niger, they charge so high for petrol because they are so poor they don't have cash to pay for subsidising the thing).

Even if government was serious, we cannot take trillions of naira and be spending on subsidy..and sell fuel below the production price....annd expect refinereis to work. Better they privatise the things, privatise NNPC, stop giving NNPC free money a la subventon, and then see how the refinereis will work because now they have to work for their money. PLus more investment, more competiton, etc.

The way and manner you harp on profit is too narrow and leaves much to be desired.
Which comes first, efficient management of resources or profit?
Don't forget that NNPC was a govt concern in the 80s and it still ran at a profit. Even though there was no subsidy then, no investors were investing in the oil sector yet, fuel was sold at affordable price and the refineries were profitable.
The key is in management not necessarily profit. Russia is a communist nation. Same with China. Yet both have refineries that Nigeria can only dream of.
The problem is not really in the model. It's in management.
The refineries can be jumpstarted with massive cash injection and then commercialised to run at the profit you so desire. This will ensure a sustainable model with a corporate governance structure

JoeEeL:

You must think you're talking with a fool right?

First of all, I can already see abokii in your name so I don't expect u to reasonably engage me. It's not an insult, an abokii man hardly reasons beyond tribe or religion.

Back to the matter, the Bauchi governor used his own very mouth on National Television saying they plan to "harness the Fulani's tradition of moving from one place to another". He also used his mouth to say, "they don't have bothers. From Cameroun to Nigeria"... This is a governor on live TV opening his mouth to say the Fulanis move in and out of Northern Nigeria without cognisance of borders.

If you doubt, watch this :

And if you dont have patience to see it to the end, you can skip to 3:00 - 3:30, although he said much more crap throughout the video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkRgZmqf91Q

To be very honest, I should not be found trying to reason with a typical northerner. It's not an insult. It's just a waste of time. The time spent in trying to convince a few would have seen them multiply even more with their reckless family-planning lifestyle, proliferating ignorance. I'd better spend that time trying to enlighten a number of not-too-enlightened southerners.

And so you know, Worcestershire is part of England and not Ireland.

Exactly as I thought; typical ignorant bigot and empty as hell - can't even hold a logical argument; yet looking down on others while deceiving himself as though of superior intelligence.

Pls try explaining how did the unrelated issue of RUGA suddenly came into this matter; how did the governor trying to explain some problematic characteristics of the Fulani herdsman which he thought could be addressed by RUGA become a problem?

Pls also explain how my rebuttals against your earlier big lie and blunder that the influx of Aboki drivers from Niger was responsible for the temporary US ban against Nigerians and your confused foolish example and misrepresentation of the US & UK ppl as if they are not made up different nationalities but yet united.

How were these rebuttals relevant to the governor's statement over RUGA?

Some of you seem to erroneously equate education with intelligence and therefore pontificate over others while looking down on them as if they are of superior intellect whereas the reverse is often the case - yes; some of these Fulani men could fare far better if given the same level of exposure..

Indeed there are PhD holders who are damn right stupid; one of them a.k.a Odechukwu, PhD without intelligence even led this country for 6 years - seemingly, your illogical arguments are fast proving the same.

Even after clearly stating that Worcestershire is one of the counties in England; you still had to advertise your atrociously poor comprehension by misconstruing my earlier statement (below) to mean that I suggested that the said county was part of Ireland - how imbecilic!

"Furthermore, contrary to your position; the ppl of Worcestershire and Stafford shire (2 counties in England) are already joined together with the Irish (as already mentioned) under one entity as the United Kingdom a.k.a UK".

Funny enough, you additionally shot yourself in the foot by uploading a copy of your Wikipedia search page on Worcester (instead of Worcestershire) foolishly thinking you had scored a point; without realising that you had actually just proven your yet again confusion and lack of knowledge one of the side issues you were arguing about.

Go on, keep exposing yourself.

NaMeAboki:


Exactly as I thought; typical ignorant bigot and empty as hell - can't even hold a logical argument; yet looking down on others while deceiving himself as though of superior intelligence.

Pls try explaining how did the unrelated issue of RUGA suddenly came into this matter; how did the governor trying to explain some problematic characteristics of the Fulani herdsman which he thought could be addressed by RUGA become a problem?

Pls also explain how my rebuttals against your earlier big lie and blunder that the influx of Aboki drivers from Niger was responsible for the temporary US ban against Nigerians and your confused foolish example and misrepresentation of the US & UK ppl as if they are not made up different nationalities but yet united.

How were these rebuttals relevant to the governor's statement over RUGA?

Some of you seem to erroneously equate education with intelligence and therefore pontificate over others while looking down on them as if they are of superior intellect whereas the reverse is often the case - yes; some of these Fulani men could fare far better if given the same level of exposure..

Indeed there are PhD holders who are damn right stupid; one of them a.k.a Odechukwu, PhD without intelligence even led this country for 6 years - seemingly, your illogical arguments are fast proving the same.

Even after clearly stating that Worcestershire is one of the counties in England; you still had to advertise your atrociously poor comprehension by misconstruing my earlier statement (below) to mean that I suggested that the said county was part of Ireland - how imbecilic!

"Furthermore, contrary to your position; the ppl of Worcestershire and Stafford shire (2 counties in England) are already joined together with the Irish (as already mentioned) under one entity as the United Kingdom a.k.a UK".

Funny enough, you additionally shot yourself in the foot by uploading a copy of your Wikipedia search page on Worcester (instead of Worcestershire) foolishly thinking you had scored a point; without realising that you had actually just proven your yet again confusion and lack of knowledge one of the side issues you were arguing about.

Go on, keep exposing yourself.

Moronic cow