@ sisqology: My web address is www.greenspek.com. Now, that is my company website. If you can make something that highlights what you have done or can do (on a personal scale) that will be nice. You DO NOT need to register a company.

My company site is SIMPLE (though I'm working on an update), you may want to do something more COMPLEX that will appeal to folks that view the site.
It will be a cool way to sell yourself and an interested IT company MAY contact you for an offer. Hope this helps.

LAUTECH takes the followin
100L: BASIC, COMPUTER ALGORITHMS
200L: PASCAL, DELPHI
300L: C++, C#, ASSEMBLY, SQL
400: COMPILER CONSTRUCTION, JAVA, PROGRAMMIN PROJECT
500L: SOFTWARE ENG MTHDS, PROJECT

@number1, what's ur id bro?

Despite the fact that Languages like PASCAL, FORTRAN, COBOL and many others are believed to be outdated,  Many companies are still in search of specialist ,  The only problem we have in this country is that companies in this country fail to recognize our own products of high institutions.

If you access sites like simply hired, IT Job Watch, elance, cb salary you will see that firms outside the country need people with knowledge in any of the foundation programmes, 

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NOTE: I'm not saying you should sit and "Tebati" one single programme,  there is nothing wrong in been versatile.


Personally, I didn't stop after learning my first programme,  but the one thing people need to understand is that,  You don't need to learn all languages,  of course you can't,  But you have to be a perfectionist in all that you learn. Some people believe because they've been thought programming in their numerous institute that is all to it.

I am a student and for more than 1.5 year I am still working on my Python on PLC ,  After learning the Intro try to make a choice or choices of programmes you wish to understand extensively.

Just recently, a guy showed me his CV studied @ NIIT but all he could show was a mere simple as a bar man was his experience --------- Why did it turn out to be like that for him-------- It is simple he relied on all Intros thinking he'll be able to secure a job but everywhere he secured job he couldn't keep it.

I'm using this medium to appeal to those still studying just like me to set their priorities right before GRAD, You wouldn't want to be some guy selling web surfing ticket in a cybercafe after GRAD now, would you?

@number1, what's ur email id bro?

@number1, what's ur email bro

@Topic.
Nigerian schs suck mennhh . . .I hardly see pple mentioning schs teaching the C,C++,PHP and Python . . . .Na wa oohh

Poster,
You can go online and get lot of torrential tutorial files to start with and also get a perfect website were you can watch everything in Videos.

@sisqology: Mail me at numberone at greenspek dot com. Use "Nairaland" as the subject so I'll know its you. Cheers.

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nigeria institution is no go area in respect to programming they are not teaching student recent programming languages what they use is cobol,pascal,basics and fortran while schools abroad teaches .net and other new lanaguages

the nigerian curriculum 2004 by nabtech stipulate basic, fortran, cobol, and pascal for ond and c pp for hnd. as 4 uni, i do not know. for me, basic should be retained 4 first year/beginners. the essen of prog in sch is not to make you a pro in one lang but intro you to the concept after all lang comes and go

COBOL to FORTRAN

I don't think there is anything wrong in learning PASCAL, FORTRAN and the likes. I see it as an introduction to programming.

It is better to teach a student to THINK like a programmer rather than teaching the language. Once you can think like a programmer, you can learn any language on your own. Programming is NOT about the language, its about the LOGIC.

COBOL and FORTRAN are no longer in use in the practical world this days. I remember having to learn those languages in OAU. When I left naija, my profs ( the older ones) said they used the language when they were about starting universtiy and totally outdated.

I hear if you wanna go to uniport, u have to learn fortran 77 to pass 2nd year engineering!!!!And the course is probably taught by a 77 year old prof, Weak!

Number_One:

I don't think there is anything wrong in learning PASCAL, FORTRAN and the likes. I see it as an introduction to programming.

It is better to teach a student to THINK like a programmer rather than teaching the language. Once you can think like a programmer, you can learn any language on your own. Programming is NOT about the language, its about the LOGIC.

sure, programming is not about the lang., but the logic. i can write the same problem in over a hundred land and get the same result. once you can think like a programmer, what you need to do is to leaern the syntax of the lang of your choice. however, some lang have some adv over others and pocesses some disavantages.

deniyor:

COBOL and FORTRAN are no longer in use in the practical world this days. I remember having to learn those languages in OAU. When I left naija, my profs ( the older ones) said they used the language when they were about starting universtiy and totally outdated.

DerMeister:

I hear if you wanna go to uniport, u have to learn fortran 77 to pass 2nd year engineering!!!!And the course is probably taught by a 77 year old prof, Weak!

and who is telling you that present day languages will sooner or later not go the way of their predecessors. in fact, research and report shows that the way we program today is noting compared to the programming lang that will make the computer have artificial intelligent close to those of human. anyway, one major problem with older lang is that they are CUI based while newer ones are GUI based. there are very little difference between basic and VB.

lekside44:

sure, programming is not about the lang., but the logic. i can write the same problem in over a hundred land and get the same result. once you can think like a programmer, what you need to do is to leaern the syntax of the lang of your choice. however, some lang have some adv over others and pocesses some disavantages.
and who is telling you that present day languages will sooner or later not go the way of their predecessors. in fact, research and report shows that the way we program today is noting compared to the programming lang that will make the computer have artificial intelligent close to those of human. anyway, one major problem with older lang is that they are CUI based while newer ones are GUI based. there are very little difference between basic and VB.

May I correct you there. there is a Big Difference between BASIC and Visual Basic and it is not in the Design or Concept. it is in the actual nature.

Basic is a High-Level Instruction Code and it is basically instruction-driven

Visual Basic (VB) is an Event-driven Programming Language. it is mostly Visual because of its associated development environment (GUI) from Microsoft for its COM programming model

Nice topic.
I personally think that once an institution can teach C/C++ and/or Java, they're covered. IDEs don't really matter, cos I don't expect universities to fork out huge licenses on Visual Studio.

Though I would have expected these private universities to at least set up an opensource learning environment, I was surprised to read that they're also teaching FORTRAN and BASIC. I don't really see the point of teaching languages that are not in use industrially.

lekside44:

the nigerian curriculum 2004 by nabtech stipulate basic, fortran, cobol, and pascal for ond and c pp for hnd. as 4 uni, i do not know. for me, basic should be retained 4 first year/beginners. the essen of prog in sch is not to make you a pro in one lang but intro you to the concept after all lang comes and go

Most major languages nowadays are C-based or can be extended using C. I would prefer if the average nigerian undergraduate was introduced to C.

Its easy to learn and with just 80+ basic functions, you can actually carry the basic ANSI C library in your head.


Problem: Most nigerian professors or lecturers are incompetent in C and as such they cannot give what they dont have.

kodewrita:

Most major languages nowadays are C-based or can be extended using C. I would prefer if the average nigerian undergraduate was introduced to C.

Its easy to learn and with just 80+ basic functions, you can actually carry the basic ANSI C library in your head.


Problem: Most Nigerian professors or lecturers are incompetent in C and as such they cannot give what they don't have.

Oga, why can't you talk what you know about. Have You been taught by most Nigerian professors or lecturers for you to jump into that conclusion. Please talk what you knowand let your readers make conclusion. One more thing, stop making hasty generalisation.

if they were competent, they would teach C and not FORTRAN. I am speaking from firsthand experience. Most of the comp sci lecturers I meet automatically assume that a 100-level student cannot possibly be expected to master C. WHy? because they are not good in it.

People make noise about fortran being hard but I mastered it pretty fast and was writing 12-line programs while classmates were writing 89 or 90-line programs for the same tasks. WHy? because lecturers made it that hard.

I broached the idea of C in my school and got more or less the same response : "its too hard for beginners". Really??

Expert C programmers are very versatile and they tend to be quite prolific. If the nigerian professors were as competent as claimed, we would have seen their products and they would have moved for FORTRAN to be consigned to the rubbish heap of history as far as nigeria is concerned.

that remains my PERSONAL OPINION.

^^
Didn't you attend a private university?
If that's the case, that's rather disappointing. Though I think most of the lecturers would have come from the public universities anyway, so why would one expect them to do things differently?

For the general Nigeria case, I think it's a matter of exposure. There's really no programming industry to speak of in Nigeria. Yes, people are coding, but mostly in 4GLs, and there are not too many indigenous software companies creating software products used within any industry mainstream. We're still very traditional and hierarchical, and that kind of spills over into the tech industry. Still I am concerned. Without the right education, we cannot have a change in the industry. There are so many platforms and systems nowadays, keeping track is a job in itself.

COBOL may be one of the oldest languages out there but is still very much in use. Companies are out there looking and paying fat salaries to COBOl specialists. Do a simple Google search and see for yourself.

As for Fortran and BASIC, apart from academic reasons, those languages should be ditched.

AjanleKoko:

^^
Didn't you attend a private university?
If that's the case, that's rather disappointing. Though I think most of the lecturers would have come from the public universities anyway, so why would one expect them to do things differently?

For the general Nigeria case, I think it's a matter of exposure. There's really no programming industry to speak of in Nigeria. Yes, people are coding, but mostly in 4GLs, and there are not too many indigenous software companies creating software products used within any industry mainstream. We're still very traditional and hierarchical, and that kind of spills over into the tech industry. Still I am concerned. Without the right education, we cannot have a change in the industry. There are so many platforms and systems nowadays, keeping track is a job in itself.

I did but it was pretty traditional in the beginning. though unlike the public schools, you dont wait until 2nd year to start comp sci courses. we got into the heat of the action from day 1. by 200 level you are already into data structures and graph theory.

But IMHO: I could still reorder the curriculum better. I aced courses but once I came across the MIT OCW curriculum, my comp sci education felt shabby to me. Can you imagine that I'll graduate and compete with these same guys internationally? (Thank God for OCW actually, it levels the ground a bit.)

lagerwhenindoubt:

May I correct you there. there is a Big Difference between BASIC and Visual Basic and it is not in the Design or Concept. it is in the actual nature.

Basic is a High-Level Instruction Code and it is basically instruction-driven

Visual Basic (VB) is an Event-driven Programming Language. it is mostly Visual because of its associated development environment (GUI) from Microsoft for its COM programming model

brother, which event is driven? is it not the native codes of the old basic, FORTRAN and the rest? what is just added to these old fashion language is the object oriented technology which activates these native codes when an action or event is taken. brother if you have a command button and do not have any code programmed into it, will any action occur? well, OOP technology made computer available for everybody since you only need to take an action like clicking a menu or an icon with a mouse or any pointing devises and the pre installed codes are activated. these pre installed codes are the basic, fortran, cobol and pascal of the old except that minor changes are made to the data structures and syntax-es to reflect modern methodology in programming.

@number1, i sent u a mail

University of lagos as regards computer science department teach modern programming such as java, vb.net, c++ and c#.net. But what is taught does not make one qualified for the programming job market.This is from a reliable source.

kodewrita:

Most major languages nowadays are C-based or can be extended using C. I would prefer if the average nigerian undergraduate was introduced to C.

Its easy to learn and with just 80+ basic functions, you can actually carry the basic ANSI C library in your head.


Problem: Most nigerian professors or lecturers are incompetent in C and as such they cannot give what they dont have.

i would even prefare them learning c plus plus rather than c because when you learn c plus plus, you have learnt c automatically and object oriented technology.
mind you, many schools which teaches old lang also teaches a c based lang such as c , c plus plus, java, c#, e.t.c