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The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by Edeyoung: 6:32pm On Nov 28, 2020
I hope i dont get banned by yoruba mods for this




The title oba entered the yoruba lexicon through benin ventures into Eastern yoruba during its expansion, and soon diffused into all yorubas

There is a parable in owo, that says, just as the oba n' idu commands respect on earth olodumare commands respect in heaven
Despite interaction with eastern Yoruba they made a sizable contact with vast yoruba tribe too

Benins supplied the atilaries used in the yoruba civil war of late 1800

If we are to mention benin influence on vast yoruba land it will too numerous to mention


The yorubas always have the claim oromiyan came to establish the obaship stool on benin but when taken a deeper look into this history shows that it was a political staged myth of late 1800 after the benin invasion by the British, oba eweka11 sought monarchial help from the then ooni to help strengthening the political power of the edo people who was emerging from a devastating war that burnt down the city capital
You know the rest
The benin monarch accepted to be one of oduduwa son, in the hierarchy it was ooni first and oba of benin second, at these time alafin was still having superiority battle against the ooni, later when awolowo elevated the stool, the alafin subcumed and decided to stay at second displacing the oba to third position


So their argument on the ownership of the word oba has been defeated

It was mere politcs even the yoruba unification was not historical and ife was never thier ancestral town ife was a religious town to the yorubas


The title oba has bern in the yoruba lexicon as far
As 16century when benin expanded into their territory that would be 6centuries now
Despite the long age it has been in Yoruba lexicon it remains foreign to them

Imagine benin supplying yoruba warriors fighting atilaries, controlling their lands, giving them kings, controlling their market, just imagine how the title oba would sound to them


When the oba of benin was being taken to calabar by the British they had to cover his face to avoid uprise from both benin areas and non edo territorie

Note
Not until 1930 the ooni of ife used the word oba officially to adress is title letting go of the British sir in replacement of oba

He made a mistake of not foreseeing the end of the false political unification of benin people under yoruba umbrella he only saw the advantage of the name it would bring to his stool

He never proclaimed other yoruba monarchs to follow suit but automatically the other yoruba bought into adding oba to thier title

Note

Ogie is a title for duke only the oba of benin bears the title oba of benin

The question every tribe should ask yoruba is why do they adopt the word oba as a generic term for kingship when already is known to adress a popular monarch

I guess the answer can also be found in my writeup

Picture of one of the ooni holding an edo ceremonial sword wanting to mimic the benin stool, but i guess he later drooped it

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Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by gregyboy(m): 6:36pm On Nov 28, 2020
Tao11 and macof wont liks this, they willl bring their etymology to discredit this


No matter what they form remember one thing the people forming it are not even from ife to begin with

Afam4eva
Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by gregyboy(m): 6:43pm On Nov 28, 2020
H

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Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by Ayoemrys(m): 7:05pm On Nov 28, 2020
Trash,

come back carry your trash in shame when you realize what OBA really mean in Yoruba language,

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Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by Nobody: 7:08pm On Nov 28, 2020
Edeyoung:
I hope i dont get banned by yoruba mods for this




The title oba entered the yoruba lexicon through benin ventures into Eastern yoruba during its expansion, and soon diffused into all yorubas

There is a parable in owo, that says, just as the oba n' idu commands respect on earth olodumare commands respect in heaven
Despite interaction with eastern Yoruba they made a sizable contact with vast yoruba tribe too

Benins supplied the atilaries used in the yoruba civil war of late 1800

If we are to mention benin influence on vast yoruba land it will too numerous to mention


The yorubas always have the claim oromiyan came to establish the obaship stool on benin but when taken a deeper look into this history shows that it was a political staged myth of late 1800 after the benin invasion by the British, oba eweka11 sought monarchial help from the then ooni to help strengthening the political power of the edo people who was emerging from a devastating war that burnt down the city capital
You know the rest
The benin monarch accepted to be one of oduduwa son, in the hierarchy it was ooni first and oba of benin second, at these time alafin was still having superiority battle against the ooni, later when awolowo elevated the stool, the alafin subcumed and decided to stay at second displacing the oba to third position


So their argument on the ownership of the word oba has been defeated

It was mere politcs even the yoruba unification was not historical and ife was never thier ancestral town ife was a religious town to the yorubas


The title oba has bern in the yoruba lexicon as far
As 16century when benin expanded into their territory that would be 6centuries now
Despite the long age it has been in Yoruba lexicon it remains foreign to them

Imagine benin supplying yoruba warriors fighting atilaries, controlling their lands, giving them kings, controlling their market, just imagine how the title oba would sound to them


When the oba of benin was being taken to calabar by the British they had to cover his face to avoid uprise from both benin areas and non edo territorie

Note
Not until 1930 the ooni of ife used the word oba officially to adress is title letting go of the British sir in replacement of oba

He made a mistake of not foreseeing the end of the false political unification of benin people under yoruba umbrella he only saw the advantage of the name it would bring to his stool

He never proclaimed other yoruba monarchs to follow suit but automatically the other yoruba bought into adding oba to thier title

Note

Ogie is a title for duke only the oba of benin bears the title oba of benin

The question every tribe should ask yoruba is why do they adopt the word oba as a generic term for kingship when already is known to adress a popular monarch

I guess the answer can also be found in my writeup

Picture of one of the ooni holding an edo ceremonial sword wanting to mimic the benin stool, but i guess he later drooped it

Source?
Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by Edeyoung: 7:10pm On Nov 28, 2020
Luckyheart:


Source?

From the gods

If you need their references, you know what to do
Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by kalufelix(m): 7:35pm On Nov 28, 2020
For-my-primary-school-social-studies-eh...wetin-dem-teach-me-na-oba-of-Benin-ooni-of-ife-alaafin-of-oyo-emir-of-kano-sultan-of-sokoto...
Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by gregyboy(m): 8:15pm On Nov 28, 2020
Ayoemrys:
Trash,

come back carry your trash in shame when you realize what OBA really mean in Yoruba language,


I got inspired by the gods to write this

Anyway i hope you aint saying the gods are crazy
Make thunder nor go use you learn
Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by Ayoemrys(m): 9:25pm On Nov 28, 2020
gregyboy:



I got inspired by the gods to write this

Anyway i hope you aint saying the gods are crazy
Make thunder nor go use you learn
still trash
Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by JohnSin97: 11:41pm On Nov 28, 2020
Another BS thread, from a loser in life
Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by gregyboy(m): 9:34am On Nov 29, 2020
BBQ
Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by LeoThaGreat(m): 10:00pm On Nov 30, 2020
Before Oduduwa came to Ilè Ifè from Oke-Ogun, there were 13 autonomous villages in Ifè all headed by Obas, e.g. Obatala, Obalufon, etc.

The first Oba of Bini was Oranyan, a descendant of Oo'dua, before Oranmiyan, Bini was governed by the Ogiso.

The above logically proves that the titling of the position of an Oba in Yorubaland predates that of Bini

The position 'Oba' is a pure Yòrùbá word. It's direct translation should be Governor or Controller/Administrator.

O = The one/person that does something (a continuous tense)
Ba = Perch or Control

I just have to drop this comment before history gets distorted as usual.

The full position is called Oba T'ó Ba L'órí Ohun Gbogbo = The Controller that governs all things.

Then the position has titles. E.g The Controller of Oyo is referred to as Alaafin (Alaafin l'oruko oba ilu Oyo).
Alaafin = Title
Oba = Position



Bye y'all!

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Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by gregyboy(m): 11:17pm On Nov 30, 2020
LeoThaGreat:
Before Oduduwa came to Ilè Ifè from Oke-Ogun, there were 13 autonomous villages in Ifè all headed by Obas, e.g. Obatala, Obalufon, etc.

The first Oba of Bini was Oranyan, a descendant of Oo'dua, before Oranmiyan, Bini was governed by the Ogiso.

The above logically proves that the titling of the position of an Oba in Yorubaland predates that of Bini

The position 'Oba' is a pure Yòrùbá word. It's direct translation should be Governor or Controller/Administrator.

O = The one/person that does something (a continuous tense)
Ba = Perch or Control

I just have to drop this comment before history gets distorted as usual.

The full position is called Oba T'ó Ba L'órí Ohun Gbogbo = The Controller that governs all things.

Then the position has titles. E.g The Controller of Oyo is referred to as Alaafin (Alaafin l'oruko oba ilu Oyo).
Alaafin = Title
Oba = Position



Bye y'all!



Can you prove benin-ife relationships with archaeological facts or European written record


Stop using foolish oral accounts for me

You dummy

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Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by OmoOlofin: 6:18pm On Dec 02, 2020

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Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by Ideadoctor(m): 7:55pm On Dec 07, 2020
Stop being a liar,your kings are called ogisos, Yorubas introduced the oba system to you,and that is evident in your overall monarchial system
Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by Edeyoung: 8:44pm On Dec 07, 2020
Ideadoctor:
Stop being a liar,your kings are called ogisos, Yorubas introduced the oba system to you,and that is evident in your overall monarchial system


Ogiso means sky kings are you telling me you believe the myth sky kings came to rule on earth

If you dont you are left with one option with the title oba


That means ogiso was a myth and never existed

The title oba has been the title for benin monarchy, oba means king in benin
Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by Edeyoung: 8:45pm On Dec 07, 2020
OmoOlofin:
https://www.nairaland.com/6234931/why-ikwerres-not-igbo-logic/33#96641344


I proved this wrong already why are you still spamming people are still going to read my comments



TAO11 is unable to prove benin ife connection
Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by Ideadoctor(m): 7:19am On Dec 08, 2020
If you believe that the indigenous word for king in Edo is oba then all Edo are Yoruba, because Yoruba started obaship,in fact Edeyoung you are not honest in treating these topic a lot of Edo historians mentioned the ogisos not as myth but as history, and they also mentioned that oranmiyan displaced the ogisos and started the oba dynasty, but here you are because you hate Yoruba's denying that fact even though it is obvious
Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by Edeyoung: 11:57am On Dec 08, 2020
Ideadoctor:
If you believe that the indigenous word for king in Edo is oba then all Edo are Yoruba, because Yoruba started obaship,in fact Edeyoung you are not honest in treating these topic a lot of Edo historians mentioned the ogisos not as myth but as history, and they also mentioned that oranmiyan displaced the ogisos and started the oba dynasty, but here you are because you hate Yoruba's denying that fact even though it is obvious


Edo historian says oduduwa was from benin

Yoruba said its a lie

But truth is that all the Oduduwa whatsoever is a myth that never existed

Ogiso are sky kings and they never existed too
In an old benin account recorded by Europeans ogiso ruled when the earth was yet unformed


Bro benin-ife never had connections unless you can prove it to me

Or you just go back to were you are coming from


Oba is the original title of the benin monarchy benins loaned it to yorubas


If you disagree with disagree read this screenshot

Or you can try to bring archeological findings or writing records were you can prove benin had contact with ife in the past


You make me sick, boy benin historian agrees and so, are they not humans like you and i can they not lie to play the supremacy battle they love
Playing

Just go.....

Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by Ideadoctor(m): 3:43pm On Dec 08, 2020
Edeyoung:



Ogiso means sky kings are you telling me you believe the myth sky kings came to rule on earth

If you dont you are left with one option with the title oba


That means ogiso was a myth and never existed

The title oba has been the title for benin monarchy, oba means king in benin


Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by Ideadoctor(m): 3:45pm On Dec 08, 2020
give me Edo etymology of oba,if you claim that oba is indigenous to Edo, then I would give the Yoruba etymology
Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by gregyboy(m): 3:51pm On Dec 08, 2020
Ideadoctor:
give me Edo etymology of oba,if you claim that oba is indigenous to Edo, then I would give the Yoruba etymology


Would you get out from here,

You dont even know your history you say every clan from yoruba migrated from ife which your brother prove you a lier


Yet same person is looking for the etymology of the world oba


Visit my profile you will find it there.....

Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by Ideadoctor(m): 6:41pm On Dec 08, 2020
gregyboy:



Would you get out from here,

You dont even know your history you say every clan from yoruba migrated from ife which your brother prove you a lier


Yet same person is looking for the etymology of the world oba


Visit my profile you will find it there.....




Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by Ideadoctor(m): 6:42pm On Dec 08, 2020
small boy stop ranting like Market women give me the etymology,you too like to dey talk

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Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by TAO11(f): 11:45pm On Dec 12, 2020

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Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by gregyboy(m): 12:19am On Dec 13, 2020
TAO11:


Cc: Ideadoctor


You and your cohort are yet to prove benin myth existence yet you already hijacking the word oba as yoruba word

Indeed there was no connection between bini and ife all those myth of oduduwa was made to unite edo under the yoruba political umbrella in the early 1900 tracing all yorubas to oduduwa

Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by gregyboy(m): 12:21am On Dec 13, 2020
Ideadoctor:
small boy stop ranting like Market women give me the etymology,you too like to dey talk


Is that what you need, what if i tell you the etymology means king

Would that solve the puzzle

Stop asking stupud questions ask meaningful ones

Like did benin-ife exist in the first place
Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by DenreleDave(m): 2:38am On Dec 13, 2020
Jesus, Coman see how Tao11 will make gregyboy shed tears again....

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Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by TAO11(f): 2:42am On Dec 13, 2020
DenreleDave:
Jesus, Coman see how Tao11 will make gregyboy shed tears again....

Chai, gregyboy, premium tears grin grin grin grin grin grin await you when Tao began to fvckkk ur ass grin grin grin
Lol. That would actually amount to flogging a dead horse.

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Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by DenreleDave(m): 6:13am On Dec 13, 2020
gregyboy:
BBQ

Until Tao11 kill you b4 ur ghost hear word grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by gregyboy(m): 8:26am On Dec 13, 2020
DenreleDave:
Jesus, Coman see how Tao11 will make gregyboy shed tears again....

Chai, gregyboy, premium tears grin grin grin grin grin grin await you when Tao began to fvckkk ur ass grin grin grin



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Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by DenreleDave(m): 8:33am On Dec 13, 2020
gregyboy:




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Thank u... See it very well..

I shall not incite violence....... Pls how does your argument with Tao11 ur husband wey dey always flog flog u grin grin grin.. How does it relate to violence?

Pls kindly expatiate.... I'm waiting b4 Tao11 flog ur ass with facts plus evidences again grin grin grin grin grin grin

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