The majestic plural is also known as the "royal we." This term refers to the use of a plural pronoun when speaking of oneself. Another more general word for the majestic plural is "nosism." The word "nosism" derives from the Latin route word "nos," meaning "we." The majestic plural is a stylistic device used to give honors to nobility. One of the most memorable nosistic phrases comes from Queen Victoria, who would say, "We are not amused," when turning up her nose at a tasteless joke.

Using the majestic plural indicates power and greatness. Its Western usage is saved for people who have authority, such as popes, bishops, and monarchs. Often, people of low rank would use this device when speaking to someone in an official capacity.

The Latin language has another term for the majestic plural, which is "pluralis majestasis," or "the plural of majesty." This construction does not exist solely in Latin or English, but also in ancient Hebrew, Punjabi, Telugu, Hindustani, and Egyptian Arabic. The president of Egypt is often called "Your Excellencies," which is another way to indicate prestige.

God refers to Himself using plural pronouns four times in the Bible. These verses occur before the doctrine of the Trinity is mentioned in the Bible, so we can infer that God is using this stylistic device to make His power evident through language. The four times that God uses the majestic plural occur in the Old Testament. The most quoted example occurs in Genesis 1:26. God says, "'Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. ...'" Here, and also in Genesis 3:22, Genesis 11:7, and Isaiah 6:8, God uses the pronouns "us" and "our" to speak of Himself in plural form, this doesn't subordinate or been assisted by jesus christ in creation of man, just as some Christians will claimed. Both christ and everything was created by God almighty without any assistant of His creations. The "US" used by God Almighty here is majestic plural in English, while the Hebrew language of the bible, "US" wasn't used.

One of God's most common names in the Old Testament is Elohim, which translates literally to "gods." However, when Elohim is used to describe the One True God, it is translated to "God." This is a fascinating word play in translation that teaches us how the majestic plural can be used in a word that is not a pronoun. An example of this translation of Elohim occurs in Deuteronomy 4:35. It states, in part, that, "The Lord is God." Translated into Hebrew, this is "Yahweh is Elohim." Note the use of plural "Elohim" coupled with singular "Lord." This shows that there is only one God, and the plural usage is meant as a majestic plural. Yahweh and Elohim are also coupled in Deuteronomy 6:4, which very clearly says that there is only one God.

Lol!

No be by big grammer.

Luke 10:21

In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.

So if God doesn't reveal these things to you, you would never know them regardless of how much grammatical analysis you do and how you try to intellectually dissect those things.

In the old time when the church use to be the church, they were led by illiterates more or less but spiritually sound individuals chosen by God and the difference was clear.

Now the leadership of the church is filled with spiritually bankrupt persons who are intellectually sound, but the result compared to that church in spite of the level of intellectual quality proves that if e no be spiritual quality, e no fit be like spiritual quality.

God was the One that revealed those things to the intellectually bankrupt leaders of that church, yet the level of their prowess in the things of His kingdom was second to none.

Humble yourself before God let Him reveal the mysteries of His Kingdom to you, no be all this one wey you dey do.

God bless.

JW spotted!

Preciousgirl:
JW spotted!

Lol am not jw. Is only the truth that will set you free.

Firstly you must be a confused Muslim because Christianity has no issue with accepting any passage of God where he refers to himself as "WE or "US"

It is rather an affirmation of the trinity when God says "Us" or "We".


Your majestic misconception is coming from a Islamic perspective because only Islam finds it difficult to explain why Allah uses "we" or "us" in quran e.g in creation of Man (I don't believe God can be referring to him and his angels here since he can't equate angels to himself to create man, so who then is this we).


By the way majestic and character are two different things

When this term of "we" or "us" are used in the scriptures (Bible or Quran) it is used by the God of these books himself to qualify his personality so it's not up to a human to interpret it because it's what the God said about himself.

Question now is whether this is a Majestic or Characteristic statement from God about himself?

Answer is it is a characteristic statement of God referring to who he is

If God wanted to just show his majesty as you put it he can use I AM, The Greatest etc

But referring himself as "US" or "WE" it's a simple deliberate revelation into his character and personality.

To finally decimate your theology that this is a character not majestic statement

Quran 21:17
Mohsin Khan: Had We intended to take a pastime (i.e. a wife or a son, etc.), We could surely have taken it from Us, if We were going to do (that).

(Interpretation: This "We" is boasting that if he intended to take a "wife" he would take it from "Us". This is not a figurative or Majestic statement but a reality, taking a wife is a reality not majestic and he is taking it from himself, which means you can only be more than one to take a wife from yourself).

This last illustration of Allah confirmation that he is more than one in reality not just a majestic statement by Muslims when they see "we or "us"

ictplotter:

The majestic plural is also known as the "royal we." This term refers to the use of a plural pronoun when speaking of oneself. Another more general word for the majestic plural is "nosism." The word "nosism" derives from the Latin route word "nos," meaning "we." The majestic plural is a stylistic device used to give honors to nobility. One of the most memorable nosistic phrases comes from Queen Victoria, who would say, "We are not amused," when turning up her nose at a tasteless joke.

Using the majestic plural indicates power and greatness. Its Western usage is saved for people who have authority, such as popes, bishops, and monarchs. Often, people of low rank would use this device when speaking to someone in an official capacity.

The Latin language has another term for the majestic plural, which is "pluralis majestasis," or "the plural of majesty." This construction does not exist solely in Latin or English, but also in ancient Hebrew, Punjabi, Telugu, Hindustani, and Egyptian Arabic. The president of Egypt is often called "Your Excellencies," which is another way to indicate prestige.

God refers to Himself using plural pronouns four times in the Bible. These verses occur before the doctrine of the Trinity is mentioned in the Bible, so we can infer that God is using this stylistic device to make His power evident through language. The four times that God uses the majestic plural occur in the Old Testament. The most quoted example occurs in Genesis 1:26. God says, "'Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. ...'" Here, and also in Genesis 3:22, Genesis 11:7, and Isaiah 6:8, God uses the pronouns "us" and "our" to speak of Himself in plural form, this doesn't subordinate or been assisted by jesus christ in creation of man, just as some Christians will claimed. Both christ and everything was created by God almighty without any assistant of His creations. The "US" used by God Almighty here is majestic plural in English, while the Hebrew language of the bible, "US" wasn't used.

One of God's most common names in the Old Testament is Elohim, which translates literally to "gods." However, when Elohim is used to describe the One True God, it is translated to "God." This is a fascinating word play in translation that teaches us how the majestic plural can be used in a word that is not a pronoun. An example of this translation of Elohim occurs in Deuteronomy 4:35. It states, in part, that, "The Lord is God." Translated into Hebrew, this is "Yahweh is Elohim." Note the use of plural "Elohim" coupled with singular "Lord." This shows that there is only one God, and the plural usage is meant as a majestic plural. Yahweh and Elohim are also coupled in Deuteronomy 6:4, which very clearly says that there is only one God.

nothing like that in the bible, the plural of majesty is a recent construct popularized by queen Victoria.
The bible is much older than queen Victoria.
Deuteronomy 6 vv4 uses plurality of unity
Meaning the Lord is a unity of persons.

Regene2020:
Firstly you must be a confused Muslim because Christianity has no issue with accepting any passage of God where he refers to himself as "WE or "US"

It is rather an affirmation of the trinity when God says "Us" or "We".


Your majestic misconception is coming from a Islamic perspective because only Islam finds it difficult to explain why Allah uses "we" or "us" in quran e.g in creation of Man (I don't believe God can be referring to him and his angels here since he can't equate angels to himself to create man, so who then is this we).


By the way majestic and character are two different things

When this term of "we" or "us" are used in the scriptures (Bible or Quran) it is used by the God of these books himself to qualify his personality so it's not up to a human to interpret it because it's what the God said about himself.

Question now is whether this is a Majestic or Characteristic statement from God about himself?

Answer is it is a characteristic statement of God referring to who he is

If God wanted to just show his majesty as you put it he can use I AM, The Greatest etc

But referring himself as "US" or "WE" it's a simple deliberate revelation into his character and personality.

To finally decimate your theology that this is a character not majestic statement

Quran 21:17
Mohsin Khan: Had We intended to take a pastime (i.e. a wife or a son, etc.), We could surely have taken it from Us, if We were going to do (that).

(Interpretation: This "We" is boasting that if he intended to take a "wife" he would take it from "Us". This is not a figurative or Majestic statement but a reality, taking a wife is a reality not majestic and he is taking it from himself, which means you can only be more than one to take a wife from yourself).

This last illustration of Allah confirmation that he is more than one in reality not just a majestic statement by Muslims when they see "we or "us"

You wasted your school fees. blind, deaf and dumb.

livingchrist:
nothing like that in the bible, the plural of majesty is a recent construct popularized by queen Victoria.
The bible is much older than queen Victoria.
Deuteronomy 6 vv4 uses plurality of unity
Meaning the Lord is a unity of persons.

When was the original bible translated into English language?

ictplotter:

You wasted your school fees. blind, deaf and dumb.

Reverse physiology.

You have proven beyond doubt to be the above names after i schooled you, I expected an intellectual response but you are already dried up in the brain

ictplotter:

When was the original bible translated into English language?

I m talking of translation but the Scrolls and manuscripts from where the english version was translated from.

ictplotter:

The majestic plural is also known as the "royal we." This term refers to the use of a plural pronoun when speaking of oneself. Another more general word for the majestic plural is "nosism." The word "nosism" derives from the Latin route word "nos," meaning "we." The majestic plural is a stylistic device used to give honors to nobility. One of the most memorable nosistic phrases comes from Queen Victoria, who would say, "We are not amused," when turning up her nose at a tasteless joke.

Using the majestic plural indicates power and greatness. Its Western usage is saved for people who have authority, such as popes, bishops, and monarchs. Often, people of low rank would use this device when speaking to someone in an official capacity.

The Latin language has another term for the majestic plural, which is "pluralis majestasis," or "the plural of majesty." This construction does not exist solely in Latin or English, but also in ancient Hebrew, Punjabi, Telugu, Hindustani, and Egyptian Arabic. The president of Egypt is often called "Your Excellencies," which is another way to indicate prestige.

God refers to Himself using plural pronouns four times in the Bible. These verses occur before the doctrine of the Trinity is mentioned in the Bible, so we can infer that God is using this stylistic device to make His power evident through language. The four times that God uses the majestic plural occur in the Old Testament. The most quoted example occurs in Genesis 1:26. God says, "'Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. ...'" Here, and also in Genesis 3:22, Genesis 11:7, and Isaiah 6:8, God uses the pronouns "us" and "our" to speak of Himself in plural form, this doesn't subordinate or been assisted by jesus christ in creation of man, just as some Christians will claimed. Both christ and everything was created by God almighty without any assistant of His creations. The "US" used by God Almighty here is majestic plural in English, while the Hebrew language of the bible, "US" wasn't used.

One of God's most common names in the Old Testament is Elohim, which translates literally to "gods." However, when Elohim is used to describe the One True God, it is translated to "God." This is a fascinating word play in translation that teaches us how the majestic plural can be used in a word that is not a pronoun. An example of this translation of Elohim occurs in Deuteronomy 4:35. It states, in part, that, "The Lord is God." Translated into Hebrew, this is "Yahweh is Elohim." Note the use of plural "Elohim" coupled with singular "Lord." This shows that there is only one God, and the plural usage is meant as a majestic plural. Yahweh and Elohim are also coupled in Deuteronomy 6:4, which very clearly says that there is only one God.

Let's see the Bible passages you quoted and understand what it says not what you think or some inconsequential stories about who created English, there are more than 100 languages translated which all point to the same narration.

Genesis 1:26
And God said let "us" create man in "our own image and likeness" ...

Interpretation: Man was created exactly in the image of God so you would find the most distinct character in man as a photocopy of the likeness of who created him.

The most distinct attribute of man is that he is a "spirit" that has a "soul" (life) residing in a "body".

Man is essentially a photocopy of a trinity himself.

From this basic illustration even a toddler can understand that the image and likeness of Man is the photocopy of what this "Us" who created man was manufacturing.

However it is blindness to call this "Us" a mere majestic statement when they have simply given evidence that their creation would be just in their likeness or nature (Trinity photocopy).

Genesis 3:2
And the woman said unto the serpent "we" may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden

(Interpretation: This was eve talking to the serpent, the we is she and Adam)

Genesis 11:7
Go to, let us go down and there confound their language that they may not understand one another

(Interpretation: This was the Trinity having a conversation on ending the tower of Babel).

Isaiah 6:8
And I heard the voice of the LORD saying whom shall i send and who will go for us?

(Interpretation: This was the Trinity having a conversation on sending a man to go warn Earth)


Can we find another explicit answer to show that this "us" is not a majestic statement?

of course they are too numerous to mention so i would give just one.

Exodus 3:14
And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM, and he said this shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, "I AM" hath sent me unto you.

Interpretation: God ask Moses to go to the house of Israel he was scared, Moses asked who would he say sent him, God replied "I AM" was his name.

If this is the name of God can some one else claim it for himself? No way

John 8:58
Jesus said unto them, verily i say unto you, before Abraham was (existed) "I AM"

Jesus was essentially calling himself God, that he was there before Abraham existence.

Essentially only the "I AM" was God and Jesus was also God with him giving us the identity of the other member of the Trinity that said let "us" create man.

As you can see as exemplifiedby the bible the trinity existed even in the very first chapter of the bible, infact this joint creators did all the creation work together as one (it was when creating man they choosed to create him in the likeness of their trinitarian existence)