Asquare84 post=97015276:
People that are moving out from Nigeria are low income earner and have poor thinking ability, Haaaa wait do you think moving out to Canada or any other developed countries legally is for poor people who bearly feed themselves? Please refrain from making such unguided statement. I just gloth over my colleague in the office dude have a house in Abuja, own a cars and is doing well, all of a sudden dude sold everything and turn up his resignation letter ( with a PFA), next story he relocate to Canada. The best decision I will make without any regret, please is it that we pretend to the reality in this country or just trying to be so awkward and unrealistic? I mean I can imagine wizkid, davido will say they will leave music career and relocate to another country to start life. My advice to you is to stay in Nigeria and develop yourself, alot of people out there are suffering abroad but will never admit it.

Asquare84:
People that are moving out from Nigeria are low income earner and have poor thinking ability, I just gloth over my colleague in the office dude have a house in Abuja, own a cars and is doing well, all of a sudden dude sold everything and turn up his resignation letter ( with a PFA), next story he relocate to Canada. I mean I can imagine wizkid, davido will say they will leave music career and relocate to another country to start life. My advice to you is to stay in Nigeria and develop yourself, alot of people out there are suffering abroad but will never admit it.

Asquare84:
People that are moving out from Nigeria are low income earner and have poor thinking ability, I just gloth over my colleague in the office dude have a house in Abuja, own a cars and is doing well, all of a sudden dude sold everything and turn up his resignation letter ( with a PFA), next story he relocate to Canada. I mean I can imagine wizkid, davido will say they will leave music career and relocate to another country to start life. My advice to you is to stay in Nigeria and develop yourself, alot of people out there are suffering abroad but will never admit it.

79733139:
Suffering in Nigeria and that of Canada are two different things. Their standard of living at poverty level in Canada is a lot more higher than in Nigeria, overall you are still better of in countries like Canada and Germany. In those countries, there is a welfare system (food, healthcare and basic shelter) to cover you if things aren't working out for you at the moment.

How many low income earners and poor thinkers do you think can scale the tedious Express Entry process? And as for that your friend, after 3 years of legitimately working in Canada, he can apply for citizenship and get it before his 4th year in Canada. With a Canadian passport he can move to any 1st world country that he likes, while you still remain in Nigeria trying your best to discourage others from making an attempt to better their lives.

frailbuzz:


From your write-up, I can say that you either entered the US illegally or you are one of them lazy Nigerian youth as propounded by PMB. You can never build a sky scrapper by doing an eight to four job. Ask anybody who in your books or eyes have made it. You will have to break your back one way or another no matter the economy you find yourself.

It is an insult to the US to classify their economy as same with Nigeria's. If after YEARS of working in the US you have nothing to show for it, I honestly think it's time you throw in the towel and head on back home. Maybe just maybe your grass will be greener on the other side.

If advice is to be given based on personal experience, you are part of the tiny fraction of sorry cases of Nigerians whose life other sadist use as example to discourage others from taking that leap of faith and finding out just what life holds out for them.Here in the US too I am not rich and I lack nothing either.I am a proud US military veteran and I vote in every election and I enjoy the same quality of life as the same leaders as buhari that kept you guys in perpetual torment of frustration and poverty and I am not interested in meeting people like you because it I don’t really need it

maternal:


Who's stopping you from returning to naija ?

Hannania:
E be things oooo�. You've worked in the US for "years" without a car, and thats a measure of excellence or achievement ?
May i ask what you do there ? Because the last time i checked, economy and social wise in all perspective, US is 200% more than Nigeria(sadly).

The only persons advocating for persons to remain in Nigeria are those looting, or those benefitting from the loot. In your case, those without perfect or legal grounds in the said country they are. Shalom

rinzaugustine:
mugu

rinzaugustine:
Anybody can own a car in US.It’s not achievement..just like buying a new shoe in Nigeria.You don’t have to be only a politician or yahoo buy to make money in Nigeria.There are thousands of legitimate ways which the youths don’t research on because of a lazy mindset of focusing on the criminals throwing money around in the society.Many business men are exporting cashew seeds and other related items and making millions of naira per shipment,many people are working customer care jobs for US companies from home and earning at least $2k per month,many Nigerians have learnt programming from YouTube videos and are now employed and earning thousands of dollars legitimately from overseas companies etc Nigeria is a beautiful country with lots of opportunities if you truly understand what is happening..the same reason the same set of people are getting rich is not voodoo ritual they did, but seeking ,researching and using information majority of the underprivileged do not care about

rinzaugustine:
Anybody can own a car in US.It’s not achievement..just like buying a new shoe in Nigeria.You don’t have to be only a politician or yahoo buy to make money in Nigeria.There are thousands of legitimate ways which the youths don’t research on because of a lazy mindset of focusing on the criminals throwing money around in the society.Many business men are exporting cashew seeds and other related items and making millions of naira per shipment,many people are working customer care jobs for US companies from home and earning at least $2k per month,many Nigerians have learnt programming from YouTube videos and are now employed and earning thousands of dollars legitimately from overseas companies etc Nigeria is a beautiful country with lots of opportunities if you truly understand what is happening..the same reason the same set of people are getting rich is not voodoo ritual they did, but seeking ,researching and using information majority of the underprivileged do not care about

rinzaugustine:
Anybody can own a car in US.It’s not achievement..just like buying a new shoe in Nigeria.You don’t have to be only a politician or yahoo buy to make money in Nigeria.There are thousands of legitimate ways which the youths don’t research on because of a lazy mindset of focusing on the criminals throwing money around in the society.Many business men are exporting cashew seeds and other related items and making millions of naira per shipment,many people are working customer care jobs for US companies from home and earning at least $2k per month,many Nigerians have learnt programming from YouTube videos and are now employed and earning thousands of dollars legitimately from overseas companies etc Nigeria is a beautiful country with lots of opportunities if you truly understand what is happening..the same reason the same set of people are getting rich is not voodoo ritual they did, but seeking ,researching and using information majority of the underprivileged do not care about

presidential:


Majority of those insulting your opinion are undergraduate, fresh graduate or the uninformed who do not understand life. They are being clothed and fed by their family and only fantasize about the beautiful pictures and make believe stories they see and hear about Europe and America. Nigeria with so many problems and challenges is one of the easiest country to be wealthy if one can provide solution to those Challenges. Nigeria's young people are all looking for ready made. By the time they travel out and face the reality of the saturated and a highly competitive society, many delve into crime to survive and appear successful, while others continue leaving an average life with lots of regrets. Those who are looking for greener pasture in Europe and America in this century should please hurry up and leave.

falopey:


No EU or US company would pay him more than that for working remotely from a third world country for them.

There are programmers in those countries that can handle the job better. But for the fact that the company is looking for a way to reduce cost, they decided to seek hands in third world countries where the little pay goes a long way.

My younger brother is into freelancing jobs for different companies in EU and US. He is paid using my PayPal account because I’m outside the country. Nigerians can’t receive PayPal. I can never take up that kind of pay for the job he does for them. Because, to me, it looks like they are exploiting him. But for him, it’s a lot of money because he is in Nigeria. These companies outsource for the job in poor countries so they can pay less.

If OP wants to make more, his best bet is to move to countries where those companies are.

maternal:


So mugu is stopping you front returning back to naija ?

rinzaugustine:
Why would you leave something that is working for you for one that is not? No country is perfect.Would you prefer to be overseas and have nothing.I have worked here in US for years now and I have not bought a single land and you are on your second house ..nawao The tempo of work is faster here than Nigeria and you might develop high blood pressure or diabetes trying to keep up.If you don’t mind , I have a brother in Enugu who is not working, can I send him to you so that you teach him the programming ..US is almost the same with Nigeria if you have income.There are good schools and hospitals In Nigeria and in many places you can stay years without hearing a gun shot.I will advice you stay in Nigeria while you visit Canada.

rinzaugustine:
You are an online idiot.Do you know the number of people in my family that I am their benefactor? ..that look up to me for survival...young youths like you who are either schooling or not working in Nigeria? You have never known responsibility of living overseas and having many dependents at home to support.I gained admission in 1997 in Nigeria with 2 trousers,2 shirts,a shoe and 100 Naira but the same system lazy youths like you condemn daily is the same I worked through to give myself a comfortable life before I moved here in US. A lot of poor youths like you spend their whole lives online bad mouthing Nigeria not knowing that if you don’t make your lives good in your country first ,no country would allow you entry. Here in the US too I am not rich and I lack nothing either.I am a proud US military veteran and I vote in every election and I enjoy the same quality of life and health care as the same leaders like buhari that kept you guys in perpetual torment of frustration and poverty and I am not interested in meeting people like you because i don’t really need it

Asquare84:
People that are moving out from Nigeria are low income earner and have poor thinking ability, I just gloth over my colleague in the office dude have a house in Abuja, own a cars and is doing well, all of a sudden dude sold everything and turn up his resignation letter ( with a PFA), next story he relocate to Canada. I mean I can imagine wizkid, davido will say they will leave music career and relocate to another country to start life. My advice to you is to stay in Nigeria and develop yourself, alot of people out there are suffering abroad but will never admit it.

Halifaxguy:


I agree to your last statement. Some people in Canada always overhyped it. This is my 10 years of living in Canada.

Halifaxguy:
NB: No where is paradise even in Canada. So brace up when you land. To OP welcome to the maple land in advance. All the best

Nicoswit:

You have just spoken the truth bro but they wont listen...one of the things that i personally dont like about those western countries is the high tax...for me the tax will make it difficult to have a decent savings especially as a family man...and the higher your salary,the higher your tax mehn!

maternal:


He's a typical selfish and arrogant Nigerian, who's definition of success is having a little job and house. And on the weekends, he goes out and chops suya while drinking beer. He doesn't know his co-worker is the one laughing at him deep down. In fact more like pity.

confusedmind1:
Hello nairalanders,

Help me in making the right decision on the next step to take.


I'm a programmer working remotely for an European based company where I earn 450 to 500k monthly depending on the exchange rate. I stay in the Eastern part of the country where cost of living is more affordable so I make a decent savings monthly as I cut my expenses as much as possible.

I have issue with making a decision between settling down here in Nigeria and running a tech company(which I have a already started investing on for some months now) or channeling my energy to pursing the Canada express entry program.

I seem to be too comfortable but the way people are leaving the country it makes it to be as if we do not have hope in the country and the only hope is traveling abroad. I have some friends who are doing better than me here in Nigeria that had already left.

Currently I have built a bungalow where I stay with my family, and also started foundations for block of flats which I intend to rent after completion, but recently I started having cold feet if I should continue with the building of block of flats and at the same time building my tech company or just abandon it and divert my energy to Canadian express entry so I can move and start afresh in Canada with my family.

Please I need your advice on how to choose my next step.

Nicoswit:

You have just spoken the truth bro but they wont listen...one of the things that i personally dont like about those western countries is the high tax...for me the tax will make it difficult to have a decent savings especially as a family man...and the higher your salary,the higher your tax mehn!

maternal:


I love you'll always be a foreigner abroad. Serious question, what has Nigeria given you being a native ?

frailbuzz:
Let me start with the words of Aisha Yusufu (sorry if i didn't get the name correctly) "My only regret in life is having all my investment in Naira". you are educated, you have skills that is sought after worldwide. if you have heard of Canada express entry program, that will be your best bet for migration. It wont be easy but i promise you, it will be worth it. The moment the thought of migration entered your mind was the same moment you decided you are ready to start over, unlearn some things and replace them with better knowledge.

I will not tell you to travel because of the corrupt state of Nigeria, corruption is everywhere, not because of education, it is available online nowadays.
Not even to secure your children's future, you need to secure your life first. You have a great job and can probably afford and gain access to great medical care. but bear in mind, this is a route that if left unexplored might haunt you for life.

What is the assurance that the economy will improve? even if it does, nobody will tell you not to go back when you want to. Why not enjoy the perks of both worlds.

Travel in your youth, make friends, establish connections, gain international experience, get a passport that is not green, then go back home and establish that business if you really love Nigeria that much otherwise, work here, retire and finally go back to Nigeria, enjoy the weather and get your pension checks every month uninterrupted.

I will end with a personal advice, if you have a legitimate means of migrating, don't let it slip. Don't call it checking out or jappa or whatever nonsensical names there are out there, call it exploring your options. Good luck to you and whatever path you decide to take.

Gerrard59:


Not only are you a hypocrite but very wicked. If western countries are so bad, relocate to Nigeria!

Nicoswit:

You have just spoken the truth bro but they wont listen...one of the things that i personally dont like about those western countries is the high tax...for me the tax will make it difficult to have a decent savings especially as a family man...and the higher your salary,the higher your tax mehn!

frailbuzz:


Now you've said what you do with your money. You sure made it seem as if you have been struggling in vain. He chose to build a house and you chose to help family. I am very sure you have an American passport and think of the next available flight when you want to travel to almost any destination not about the bureaucratic process of obtaining a visa. Your future and that of your offspring is secure. If you can leave everything you had going for you in Nigeria why shouldn't he?

I am a Canadian permanent resident who left a well paying job in Nigeria and have never regretted it. Its a beautiful world out here and I would encourage anyone who wants and has a means of leaving Nigeria legitimately to do so.

You can imagine the value of the naira when you left and the value now. Very soon, there will be no middle class in that country. You are either poor or you are rich.
If you will indulge me, please let me know your reason for leaving Nigeria and if you regret your decision.

confusedmind1:
Hello nairalanders,

Help me in making the right decision on the next step to take.


I'm a programmer working remotely for an European based company where I earn 450 to 500k monthly depending on the exchange rate. I stay in the Eastern part of the country where cost of living is more affordable so I make a decent savings monthly as I cut my expenses as much as possible.

I have issue with making a decision between settling down here in Nigeria and running a tech company(which I have a already started investing on for some months now) or channeling my energy to pursing the Canada express entry program.

I seem to be too comfortable but the way people are leaving the country it makes it to be as if we do not have hope in the country and the only hope is traveling abroad. I have some friends who are doing better than me here in Nigeria that had already left.

Currently I have built a bungalow where I stay with my family, and also started foundations for block of flats which I intend to rent after completion, but recently I started having cold feet if I should continue with the building of block of flats and at the same time building my tech company or just abandon it and divert my energy to Canadian express entry so I can move and start afresh in Canada with my family.

Please I need your advice on how to choose my next step.

confusedmind1:


Modified on 19/10/2021

Thank you all for the advice here it helped me in making the best decision of my life.

I eventually moved to the UK and in just 1 month I have a good software developer job supporting my Masters's Degree.

Please move from Nigeria if you have the means, am sorry to say this but just staying out side Nigeria for less than 2months I can Nigeria is cursed.

People work so hard but the money they make can't give them good food, here in the UK a cleaner can afford good food and basic needs.

Rictech:

Congrats, Did you move to the UK through master's or a software job with visa sponsorship?