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What's The Purpose Of The Creation Of Church Branches? by jesusjnr2020(m): 6:17am On Dec 13, 2020
What's The Purpose Of The Creation Of Church Branches?

To expand God's Kingdom or man's?

Some believe that the aggressive drive of their church leaders to acquire more branches was a testament to their passion to win souls for the kingdom of God, but stories emerge of how these branches they acquire were mandated to remit funds to their headquarters even when they operate in a different nation, like the instance of winners chapel in Ghana which said to have had issues with the headquarters in Nigeria at some point because of such demands which they felt were out of place, among other questionable policies and practices of church leaders who plant these church branches, it further exposes the real objective behind such efforts they make.

When I saw a thread shared about how the winner's chapel headquarters in Nigeria, led by its founder David Oyedepo, had won the case over the Adjeman-led branch in Ghana that had revolted against it, I asked the question, "who wins in this case, God or man,?"

Since it was a church leader (bishop) against a church leader (bishop), and each one had his own set of supporters, moreover the one in Ghana had won previously before it was recently overturned, so just as the supporters of David Oyedepo were now rejoicing for his victory and giving God the glory, those who supported Adjeman had also done the same for the victory they had achieved previously before the recent development.

One of the supporters of David Oyedepo attempted to justify the questionable demand he placed on the branches to remit funds to the headquarters as biblical with the claim that the gentile churches also remitted funds to the church in Jerusalem, but this couldn't be any further from the Truth, except sending aid to the church in Jerusalem during the time of famine equated to remitting funds to Jerusalem, because aside that, the funds generated from any church (branch) was used to cater for those of the church (branch) as was set by the example of the church in Jerusalem, at the time it was ably by apostle Peter and the rest of Christ's twelve disciples.

Imagine a situation where a branch of the church in Ghana would be remitting funds to the headquarters in Nigeria when the poor in the branch have not been catered for?

Some have claimed that such church branches being opened by some of these church leaders were nothing but business centers, and if nothing else, such a policy where the branches were mandated to remit funds to the headquarters justifies such claims.

This particular development where such questionable policies of church leaders have led to branches having issues with their headquarters is not exclusive to the winner's chapel, because I can remember while growing up as a member of Church of God mission, having a Bishop of one of their branches complain bitterly about how much money one brought from his zone was becoming the order of the day. And this was while Benson Idahosa was still alive and in charge.

I believe such brewing issues as a result of such questionable policies of the church leadership led to the eventual secession of its Lagos headquarters from it main headquarters in Edo state after the death of the founder.

There have been reports of some bitter complains even some shared here in NL about such questionable policies by some of these church leaders, like one who spoke here not too long ago of how her dad, a pastor of an RCCG branch, seriously struggles to met up with the financial demands made by the leadership of the church, it even affects his family's welfare, that she had to cry out to whoever cared to listen.

I can't imagine the kind of messages the man would be expected to preach when he's been put under such by the leadership of his church, because I can remember a friend telling me of how he had start teaching what he was not supposed to teach to enable him meet with such questionable targets given to him by his leaders.

So issues arising from such policies of some church leaders who plant these branches have been there, hence making the motive behind their creation of these church branches very questionable, if they were doing it truly because of God or their own selves.

I also can also recall how some church leaders decide against planting of branches of their churches because of the questionable nature of such a practice which they saw as unscriptural. For instance, despite how famous T B Joshua is around the world, he doesn't have any other branch aside that in Lagos. The same can be said of Chris Okotie of Household of God Church among others.

Some who had previously branches even had to close them down, like Tunde Bakare of the Latter Rain Assembly.

When one also see how many blindly defend such questionable policies, teachings, utterances, actions, of such church leaders, like some in this forum belonging to the winners' chapel, it becomes even more glaring the real motive behind the aggressive drive of their church leaders to plant even more church branches.

I can remember saying how David Oyedepo quite recently spoke about how becoming president of a nation would be considered "a demotion", because many were following his live service broadcast from over a hundred nations of the world. And that he was meant to be above the nations, appearing to give a hint of the real reason behind his aggressive drive for creation of more branches, that it was about him and to expand his own kingdom not that of God.

I have heard Enoch Adeboye who also has a similar drive for planting of church branches also say something quite similar, how he's richer than Bill Gates because of the amount of followers he had at his disposal.

Going by the overwhelming evidence, it shows that the motives for the creation of church branches is hardly now about expanding God Kingdom but that of man.

Hence despite the growth of church branches in the nation, it's not done anything to reduce the growth of corruption, crime, and wickedness in the land. If anything else, such vices have grown at the speed of such growth, because they were less so when there were less church branches in the land. And the church cannot be exempted from such a negative development.

I believe It's high time the church leaders stopped focusing on the planting of more of their church branches, but instead focused on ensuring that the ones they've already planted began to serve the purpose they were meant to be planted in the first place, which is to bring more souls into God's kingdom, and also increase the amount of righteous persons in the land, which would result in a decrease the level of unrighteousness in the nation. Because righteousness exalts a nation not amount of church branches.

And without righteousness, no man shall be able to see God or enter into His kingdom.

Matthew 13:41

"The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity."

God bless.

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Re: What's The Purpose Of The Creation Of Church Branches? by hurryup123(m): 6:24am On Dec 13, 2020
Bless you too

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Re: What's The Purpose Of The Creation Of Church Branches? by helinues: 6:28am On Dec 13, 2020
More branches, more tithe
Re: What's The Purpose Of The Creation Of Church Branches? by Goldp5988(f): 6:28am On Dec 13, 2020
The reason behind church planting is about the kingdom of GOD.

Yes you are correct that some church don't do it but the bible says go ye therefore and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, Son and the Holy Ghost, teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you and lo am with you always. Matt 28: 19 - 20.
Re: What's The Purpose Of The Creation Of Church Branches? by jesusjnr2020(m): 6:33am On Dec 13, 2020
Goldp5988:
The reason behind church planting is about the kingdom of GOD.

Yes you are correct that some church don't do it but the bible says go ye therefore and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, Son and the Holy Ghost, teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you and lo am with you always. Matt 28: 19 - 20.
The point is not about planting of churches but church branches.

You can plant churches but church branches. I'm sure those who don't plant church branches still plant churches, but the difference is that it's not a branch of their own church.

Go and preach the gospel doesn't mean go and plant branches of your own church that would be remitting money regularly to you.

Beside that you plant church branches doesn't mean that you're obeying that commandment of Jesus if you don't teach them what Jesus had commanded you to teach them, which is the bolded.

I hope you now get it.

Thanks and God bless.

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Re: What's The Purpose Of The Creation Of Church Branches? by AntiChristian: 6:37am On Dec 13, 2020
Hmmm, expositive!

One church per street...
Re: What's The Purpose Of The Creation Of Church Branches? by CodeTemplar: 6:40am On Dec 13, 2020
No scriptural back up to this hate inspired epistle against Oyedepo. Well let me introduce some relevant facts to the the issue of having church buildings. Buildings are shelter structure meant to serve as host and base for religious gatherings. In Acts of the apostles(1:13), there was gathering in the upper room of a certain church temple or building. That tells us something. When it was time for passover, Jesus didn't go to the desert or forest.
I can see the the hatred for Oyedepo has blinded OP to the point of criticizing building of church structures meant to serve the purpose of the kind of temples recorded in Acts.

If you like gather your own sheeps under the rain and sunshine and feed them with the perverted word you are spreading. Some other ministers of God(genuine) have decided to do it the reasonable and biblical way.
Re: What's The Purpose Of The Creation Of Church Branches? by CodeTemplar: 6:42am On Dec 13, 2020
helinues:
More branches, more tithe
More souls more tithes. God wishes for all men to be saved. So you also saying that to God.
Re: What's The Purpose Of The Creation Of Church Branches? by jesusjnr2020(m): 6:45am On Dec 13, 2020
CodeTemplar:
No scriptural back up to this hate inspired epistle against Oyedepo. Well let me introduce some relevant facts to the the issue of having church buildings. Buildings are shelter structure meant to serve as host and base for religious gatherings. In Acts of the apostles(1:13), there was gathering in the upper room of a certain church temple or building. That tells us something. When it was time for passover, Jesus didn't go to the desert or forest.
I can see the the hatred for Oyedepo has blinded OP to the point of criticizing building of church structures meant to serve the purpose of the kind of temples recorded in Acts.

If you like gather your own sheeps under the rain and sunshine and feed them with the perverted word you are spreading. Some other ministers of God(genuine) have decided to do it the reasonable and biblical way.
Thanks for justing this post.

I'm sure the supporters of Adjeman in Ghana who spoke against the idea of remitting funds that ought to be used to help those in their own church, also hate Oyedepo.

Nothing different is expected of a blind follower.

It's only when it's doesn't favor your selfish interest, you'd know it's not scripturally backed up.
Re: What's The Purpose Of The Creation Of Church Branches? by CodeTemplar: 6:48am On Dec 13, 2020
jesusjnr2020:
Thanks for justing this post.

I'm sure you also hate the other man in Ghana whose own supporters spoke against the idea of remitting funds that ought to be used to help those in the church.
Go study Paul's ministry well and stop goofing around. You are seriously messing up and I doubt you will be willing to admit your errors from history.
Re: What's The Purpose Of The Creation Of Church Branches? by jesusjnr2020(m): 6:53am On Dec 13, 2020
CodeTemplar:
Go study Paul's ministry well and stop goofing around. You are seriously messing up and I doubt you will be willing to admit your errors from history.
Not need to continue in this blind argument, for someone that would blindly believe that Job suffered losses because he didn't tithe just Oyedepo said so, I shouldn't expect you to be able to accept the Truth of your error and those blind leader.
Re: What's The Purpose Of The Creation Of Church Branches? by simple250: 6:58am On Dec 13, 2020
Churches have branches so that you have no reason to go to hell . When you get to hell if they ask you why did u not make heaven u will say MFM is not close to my house .


More branches more souls shall be saved for those that are ready to be saved .
Re: What's The Purpose Of The Creation Of Church Branches? by jesusjnr2020(m): 7:21am On Dec 13, 2020
simple250:
Churches have branches so that you have no reason to go to hell . When you get to hell if they ask you why did u not make heaven u will say MFM is not close to my house .


More branches more souls shall be saved for those that are ready to be saved .
If so, then why are church branches not resulting in more righteous people?

Or do you mean, being a member of a church was enough to send one to heaven?

Does God ask what church you attended before He lets you in?

Maybe that misconception is what is making many to yet continue in their unrighteousness and iniquity. Because they mistook going to church for righteousness.

You can't enter into heaven without righteousness, and that ought to be the purpose of having church branches.

If that is not achieved, then the purpose of having church branches is defeated.
Re: What's The Purpose Of The Creation Of Church Branches? by tobechi74: 7:47am On Dec 13, 2020
To generate more revenue
Re: What's The Purpose Of The Creation Of Church Branches? by jesusjnr2020(m): 1:22pm On Dec 14, 2020
To what purpose?
Re: What's The Purpose Of The Creation Of Church Branches? by livingchrist: 3:09pm On Dec 14, 2020
jesusjnr2020:
What's The Purpose Of The Creation Of Church Branches?

To expand God's Kingdom or man's?

Some believe that the aggressive drive of their church leaders to acquire more branches was a testament to their passion to win souls for the kingdom of God, but stories emerge of how these branches they acquire were mandated to remit funds to their headquarters even when they operate in a different nation, like the instance of winners chapel in Ghana which said to have had issues with the headquarters in Nigeria at some point because of such demands which they felt were out of place, among other questionable policies and practices of church leaders who plant these church branches, it further exposes the real objective behind such efforts they make.

When I saw a thread shared about how the winner's chapel headquarters in Nigeria, led by its founder David Oyedepo, had won the case over the Adjeman-led branch in Ghana that had revolted against it, I asked the question, "who wins in this case, God or man,?"

Since it was a church leader (bishop) against a church leader (bishop), and each one had his own set of supporters, moreover the one in Ghana had won previously before it was recently overturned, so just as the supporters of David Oyedepo were now rejoicing for his victory and giving God the glory, those who supported Adjeman had also done the same for the victory they had achieved previously before the recent development.

One of the supporters of David Oyedepo attempted to justify the questionable demand he placed on the branches to remit funds to the headquarters as biblical with the claim that the gentile churches also remitted funds to the church in Jerusalem, but this couldn't be any further from the Truth, except sending aid to the church in Jerusalem during the time of famine equated to remitting funds to Jerusalem, because aside that, the funds generated from any church (branch) was used to cater for those of the church (branch) as was set by the example of the church in Jerusalem, at the time it was ably by apostle Peter and the rest of Christ's twelve disciples.

Imagine a situation where a branch of the church in Ghana would be remitting funds to the headquarters in Nigeria when the poor in the branch have not been catered for?

Some have claimed that such church branches being opened by some of these church leaders were nothing but business centers, and if nothing else, such a policy where the branches were mandated to remit funds to the headquarters justifies such claims.

This particular development where such questionable policies of church leaders have led to branches having issues with their headquarters is not exclusive to the winner's chapel, because I can remember while growing up as a member of Church of God mission, having a Bishop of one of their branches complain bitterly about how much money one brought from his zone was becoming the order of the day. And this was while Benson Idahosa was still alive and in charge.

I believe such brewing issues as a result of such questionable policies of the church leadership led to the eventual secession of its Lagos headquarters from it main headquarters in Edo state after the death of the founder.

There have been reports of some bitter complains even some shared here in NL about such questionable policies by some of these church leaders, like one who spoke here not too long ago of how her dad, a pastor of an RCCG branch, seriously struggles to met up with the financial demands made by the leadership of the church, it even affects his family's welfare, that she had to cry out to whoever cared to listen.

I can't imagine the kind of messages the man would be expected to preach when he's been put under such by the leadership of his church, because I can remember a friend telling me of how he had start teaching what he was not supposed to teach to enable him meet with such questionable targets given to him by his leaders.

So issues arising from such policies of some church leaders who plant these branches have been there, hence making the motive behind their creation of these church branches very questionable, if they were doing it truly because of God or their own selves.

I also can also recall how some church leaders decide against planting of branches of their churches because of the questionable nature of such a practice which they saw as unscriptural. For instance, despite how famous T B Joshua is around the world, he doesn't have any other branch aside that in Lagos. The same can be said of Chris Okotie of Household of God Church among others.

Some who had previously branches even had to close them down, like Tunde Bakare of the Latter Rain Assembly.

When one also see how many blindly defend such questionable policies, teachings, utterances, actions, of such church leaders, like some in this forum belonging to the winners' chapel, it becomes even more glaring the real motive behind the aggressive drive of their church leaders to plant even more church branches.

I can remember saying how David Oyedepo quite recently spoke about how becoming president of a nation would be considered "a demotion", because many were following his live service broadcast from over a hundred nations of the world. And that he was meant to be above the nations, appearing to give a hint of the real reason behind his aggressive drive for creation of more branches, that it was about him and to expand his own kingdom not that of God.

I have heard Enoch Adeboye who also has a similar drive for planting of church branches also say something quite similar, how he's richer than Bill Gates because of the amount of followers he had at his disposal.

Going by the overwhelming evidence, it shows that the motives for the creation of church branches is hardly now about expanding God Kingdom but that of man.

Hence despite the growth of church branches in the nation, it's not done anything to reduce the growth of corruption, crime, and wickedness in the land. If anything else, such vices have grown at the speed of such growth, because they were less so when there were less church branches in the land. And the church cannot be exempted from such a negative development.

I believe It's high time the church leaders stopped focusing on the planting of more of their church branches, but instead focused on ensuring that the ones they've already planted began to serve the purpose they were meant to be planted in the first place, which is to bring more souls into God's kingdom, and also increase the amount of righteous persons in the land, which would result in a decrease the level of unrighteousness in the nation. Because righteousness exalts a nation not amount of church branches.

And without righteousness, no man shall be able to see God or enter into His kingdom.

Matthew 13:41

"The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity."

God bless.
this false prophet/teacher again, you are an antichrist, God exposed you on this forum, were you not the one that opened a thread that Allah is a true god? You claimed it was revealed to you by the holy Spirit but latter claimed you misunderstood him.
You spend all your time attacking churches and pastors, spewing heresies like a typical demon possessed man.
Prophet mohammed is in hell now, All liar will be thrown into the lake of fire.
You end is going to be disastrous, if you dont repent of this your wickedness.

Revelation 21:8
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.


I know you will say this is the word of a mere man John, but if you will listen Jesujnr repent before it will be too late.

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Re: What's The Purpose Of The Creation Of Church Branches? by jesusjnr2020(m): 3:32pm On Dec 14, 2020
livingchrist:
this false prophet/teacher again, you are an antichrist, God exposed you on this forum, were you not the one that opened a thread that Allah is a true god? You claimed it was revealed to you by the holy Spirit but latter claimed you misunderstood him.
You spend all your time attacking churches and pastors, spewing heresies like a typical demon possessed man.
You end is going to be disastrous, if you dont repent of this your wickedness.
Someone who emphasizes the teachings of Christ more than most do is who you call an Antichrist, obviously shows you complete lack of knowledge of what it truly means to be that.

Time would tell who's an antichrist or a typical demon possessed man between me and you if it has not already done so.

That's what the likes of you said about Jesus when He called out the excesses of the blind leaders of His time. You should also know they also had lots of blind followers like you of whom Jesus said:

Matthew 15:13-14 (KJV)

But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up.
Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.


So no surprises there that you disapprove of a true servant of Jesus since your predecessors did same to Him while He was here on Earth. If it happened to the Master, who am I?

What you must know though that your end is definitely the pit if you don't repent.
Re: What's The Purpose Of The Creation Of Church Branches? by livingchrist: 8:05pm On Dec 14, 2020
jesusjnr2020:
Someone who emphasizes the teachings of Christ more than most do is who you call an Antichrist, obviously shows you complete lack of knowledge of what it truly means to be that.

Time would tell who's an antichrist or a typical demon possessed man between me and you if it has not already done so.

That's what the likes of you said about Jesus when He called out the excesses of the blind leaders of His time. You should also know they also had lots of blind followers like you of whom Jesus said:

Matthew 15:13-14 (KJV)

But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up.
Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.


So no surprises there that you disapprove of a true servant of Jesus since your predecessors did same to Him while He was here on Earth. If it happened to the Master, who am I?

What you must know though that your end is definitely the pit if you don't repent.
before you start correcting churches have you corrected yourself? Your arrogance and pride is deceiving you that you are something.
Re: What's The Purpose Of The Creation Of Church Branches? by jesusjnr2020(m): 8:22pm On Dec 14, 2020
livingchrist:
before you start correcting churches have you corrected yourself? Your arrogance and pride is deceiving you that you are something.
It's obvious you're too blind to see the Truth but can only see the lies of your father the devil that doesn't exist, if not you'd know that I'm God-sent and qualified by Him to do what I do here.

Check my signature to see what Jesus sent me to tell the likes of you who also thought that Jesus was proud and hence they asked "what think you of yourself", but "wisdom is justified of her children" not fools.
Re: What's The Purpose Of The Creation Of Church Branches? by livingchrist: 8:29pm On Dec 14, 2020
jesusjnr2020:
It's obvious you're too blind to see the Truth but can only see the lies of your father the devil that doesn't exist, if not you'd know that I'm God-sent and qualified by Him to do what I do here.

Check my signature to see what Jesus sent me to tell the likes of you who also thought that Jesus was proud and hence they asked "what think you of yourself", but "wisdom is justified of her children" not fools.
@ bolded you just further expose yourself, you are an agent of the devil.
Re: What's The Purpose Of The Creation Of Church Branches? by jesusjnr2020(m): 8:43pm On Dec 14, 2020
livingchrist:
@ bolded you just further expose yourself, you are an agent of the devil.
I would take that as a compliment coming from a child of the devil the father of lies.
Re: What's The Purpose Of The Creation Of Church Branches? by tobechi74: 3:53am On Dec 20, 2020
True
Re: What's The Purpose Of The Creation Of Church Branches? by Mindlog: 6:07am On Dec 20, 2020
A balanced write up.

Has the proliferation of Churches and branches correlated to Nigerians being more God fearing, more responsible to self and others, reduce the inclination to crime, make us easily trust fellow Nigerians, etc?

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Re: What's The Purpose Of The Creation Of Church Branches? by Nobody: 6:27am On Dec 20, 2020
who wouldn't want his business to thrive more?
more branches , more customers

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