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Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by Risentouch(m): 2:16pm On Mar 19, 2021 |
CandyOps: Maybe na those people wey dey before been dey find river before he come discover where e dey |
Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by Psalmistproject: 2:56pm On Mar 19, 2021 |
mansakhalifa: This is an educating piece that makes one think and rethink and improve in knowledge. You shamelessly showed how bitter you are with the person that posted this piece and wouldn't even mind insulting your ancestors. I recommend you go for any night of a thousand laughs show around. You seriously need more joy. |
Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by Nighouseplans(m): 3:03pm On Mar 19, 2021 |
What is not written doesn't exist. |
Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by Ayotemide(f): 3:39pm On Mar 19, 2021 |
It is! Before another crop of Nigerians would be told that a pale-skinned wanderer 'discovered' a river. The audacity! mansakhalifa: 1 Like |
Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by cococandy(f): 3:39pm On Mar 19, 2021 |
And that’s on white appropriation |
Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by SunTzu123(m): 3:58pm On Mar 19, 2021 |
This "silly" debate has to stop. Mungo Park was not recognized for discovering the River Niger but for discovering the SOURCE of the river. He was the first person that went all the way to the find out where the river flowed from. This case is hereby dismissed, struck out, closed. 1 Like |
Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by olisaEze(m): 3:58pm On Mar 19, 2021 |
GerogeI: Which map has Orimili on it? Even the one used to divided and create states in Nigeria since 1914 till date doesn’t have it. Abi do the Igalas & Ebiras call it the same name in their tree maps too? The British fine tuned what the Romans left for them, we on the other hand still haven’t been able to define who a Nigerian is! BTW the map we’re talking about here is not the one ur forefathers used to describe family land o. 1 Like |
Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by rafcrown(m): 3:59pm On Mar 19, 2021 |
Ist illegal immigrant in Africa? |
Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by GerogeI(m): 4:11pm On Mar 19, 2021 |
olisaEze: Ha ha ha. Are you discrediting my Grandfathers map. Which he drew on a tree? You can't be serious. All the activities you mentioned are those conducted under British tutelage. That's why you used British map. Each group has a name for the River, we call it Orimiri. Why then do you think what the British called it is more important than what Igbos, Igalas, Hausas etc called it. At the end they are also a tribe - Anglo Saxons and Scots. In fact we are even more in population 1 Like |
Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by olisaEze(m): 4:26pm On Mar 19, 2021 |
GerogeI: The world knows it by a certain name, a name provided by the British. We however are still operating our system of government no different from the motley group of tribesmen the Europeans met & left behind. In the committee of nations, such a people have little or no power to effect such a change in world history. Meanwhile, only Regina can argue with the ancestors broda. |
Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by doctuw(m): 4:39pm On Mar 19, 2021 |
Well, this is what Nigeria has turned into. It was never stated that Mungo Park discovered River Niger, the usual question when I was in primary school used to be “who discovered the course of River Niger?” Instead of you to research we’ll before putting the topic forward, you decided to add to people’s ignorance because of your own ignorance . Mungo Park discovered the course of River and he was on his way to its source at the Futa Djallon mountains when he died at the rapids of Bussa. It was never stated that he discovered River Niger Ademola47: 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by Litmus: 4:58pm On Mar 19, 2021 |
African American pioneered way of seeing racism = the questioning of notions such as Whites claiming that they discovered places natives have lived in for eons. For example, questions like how could Mongo Park discover River Niger when Africans have long known of it. Nigerian way of seeing racism = the relevance of Mongo Park in the oppression of black people lays in the fact that the explorations of Mongo Park, Vasco Digamma and pirates such as Walter Raleigh, Francis drake was in the laying of the foundations of current World Trade systems that favours the West and locks out Africa. Unfortunately, blacks the world over have adopted the African American model of fighting racism instead of the Nigerian model. 1 Like |
Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by Elgaxton(m): 5:17pm On Mar 19, 2021 |
Mungo Park only discovered River Niger for the British not for Nigerians. People were already living and walking past the river before there was a Mungo Park in Nigeria |
Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by kraftysprouts: 5:41pm On Mar 19, 2021 |
He discovered nothing... All those lies they feed us back in school |
Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by kraftysprouts: 5:45pm On Mar 19, 2021 |
kayswag100: My brother 1 Like |
Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by colestephan86: 7:00pm On Mar 19, 2021 |
Ademola47:The guy didn't discover anything. One can't compare him to Vasco da Gama that discovered the sea route to india |
Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by ugotex85: 8:30pm On Mar 19, 2021 |
The river had been existing long before Mungo Park was born. The people of Asaba and Onitsha environs had been using the river which they called "Oshimili", it served as their source of water. You can imagine the shock the people of this area would have reading from history books that Mungo Park discovered their river. Like seriously? So he was the only one with functioning eyes? The locals using it discovered it through the eyes of Mungo. Yeye historians.. To be fair to Mungo Park, he only gave the River an English name, nothing more. |
Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by Bornboy4: 8:30pm On Mar 19, 2021 |
Yes. We were dumb enough not to know what name to give to it. |
Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by omoalaafin: 8:36pm On Mar 19, 2021 |
No he didn't. He is a liar. |
Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by Ucheamani(m): 8:57pm On Mar 19, 2021 |
Guys get your history right. Mungo Park was credited with discovering the SOURCE of river niger and documenting it as recorded and known history. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by Rossikk(m): 9:38pm On Mar 19, 2021 |
Fidelismaria: WRONG. This is what happens when you people don't study history. Scholars and explorers from across the world have ''discovered'' River Niger centuries before Mungo Park's grandfather was born. Ibn Battuta, an Arab chronicler, toured and wrote extensively about Western Africa centuries before Mungo park's era for instance. The Mali empire attracted students from as far away as Turkey, to its world class universities, including the famous Sankore University, Timbuktu, from as early as the 13th century. You want to tell me all these people did not know about River Niger until Mungo Park came from London in the 19th century? Rubbish. 1 Like |
Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by Rossikk(m): 9:57pm On Mar 19, 2021 |
GerogeI: Honestly, many of our people are just ignorant. It's very sad to see. |
Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by Rossikk(m): 10:06pm On Mar 19, 2021 |
Munamu: Absolute nonsense. What wilderness? What ''road network'' existed in Europe in Mungo Park's time that did not exist in Africa? Have you heard of the city of Benin that had straight, wide roads as early as the 11th century? AND HAD STREETLIGHTS AND UNDERGROUND DRAINAGE 300 YEARS BEFORE ANY CITY IN EUROPE? ''With its mathematical layout and earthworks longer than the Great Wall of China, Benin City was one of the best planned cities in the world when London was a place of ‘thievery and murder’'', said the uK Guardian newspaper in a special report on this ancient cvilization. The report continued: ''In 1691, the Portuguese ship captain Lourenco Pinto observed: “Great Benin, where the king resides, is larger than Lisbon; all the streets run straight and as far as the eye can see. The houses are large, especially that of the king, which is richly decorated and has fine columns. The city is wealthy and industrious. It is so well governed that theft is unknown and the people live in such security that they have no doors to their houses.” In contrast, London at the same time is described by Bruce Holsinger, professor of English at the University of Virginia, as being a city of “thievery, prostitution, murder, bribery and a thriving black market made the medieval city ripe for exploitation by those with a skill for the quick blade or picking a pocket”. “In Benin City, houses are built alongside the streets in good order, the one close to the other,” writes the 17th-century Dutch visitor Olfert Dapper. “Adorned with gables and steps … they are usually broad with long galleries inside, especially so in the case of the houses of the nobility, and divided into many rooms which are separated by walls made of red clay, very well erected.” Dapper adds that wealthy residents kept these walls “as shiny and smooth by washing and rubbing as any wall in Holland can be made with chalk, and they are like mirrors. The upper storeys are made of the same sort of clay. Moreover, every house is provided with a well for the supply of fresh water”. https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2016/mar/18/story-of-cities-5-benin-city-edo-nigeria-mighty-medieval-capital-lost-without-trace HOW DARE YOU claim Africa was ''a wilderness with no roads'' before the British came? 1 Like |
Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by ekevwe(m): 10:30pm On Mar 19, 2021 |
Khayceeofficial: The person that ur street was named after, were people passing through it when it was full of bushes? Lol. My brother this life get so many unanswered questions |
Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by themanderon: 10:58pm On Mar 19, 2021 |
Western colonization. How can he discover what was already existing and had indigenous people living there? Its an insult to those people I dare say. |
Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by DedeNkem: 11:29pm On Mar 19, 2021 |
Mungo Park did not discover sh*it! How could a foreigner discover something the native people he met already knew existed? That was how Christopher Columbus claimed he discovered America while he encountered indigenous people throughout his voyages! When whites see something for the first time, they falsely claim they "discovered" it! That why they also altered history books to their advantage! |
Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by seguno2: 4:05am On Mar 20, 2021 |
pansophist: Wrong analogy. If I bring the information about your daughter to those who don’t know of her existence, and in particular her details, it means that I have discovered your daughter for that population who did not know of her previously. If the African Association was the "beginning of the age of African exploration" then Mungo Park was its first successful explorer; he set a standard for all who followed. Park was the first Westerner to have recorded travels in the central portion of the Niger, and through his popular book introduced the public to a vast unexplored continent which influenced future European explorers and colonial ambitions in Africa. Instead of all these needless debates, we should be focused on greater transparency and knowledge appreciation by every African, in order to overcome our widespread uneducated and illiteracy status that is exemplified in not having alphabets and therefore no written record of our history before the Arabs and whites arrived here. 2 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by drnoel: 11:00am On Mar 20, 2021 |
KenModi: True |
Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by drnoel: 11:02am On Mar 20, 2021 |
lekki1444: True what U say. But there are no other known recounted facts before then. That's why scholars repeated accept that Mungo Park must be the first European cos his journey was documented and it's the earliest unbiased known scientific documentation of those events. |
Re: Did Mungo Park Actually 'Discover' The River Niger? by MrMexx: 4:12am On Mar 21, 2021 |
Yes he did, just as Christopher Columbus discovered America, LOL, Africans really needs to have a sense of history, not every information on Google is correct especially when it comes to African history, do your personal research, Read people, it's very important!!!! |
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