fergie001:
https://lawcarenigeria.com/hon-hassan-anthony-saleh-v-christian-adabah-abah-ors2017/

cktheluckyman...The full SC judgement.

He submitted in 2011 and didn't in 2015.

Nonetheless, if I follow precedence of our cases so far: Oshiomhole, Ayade, Abiodun, etc.......Oba will leave there in 2024.

cktheluckyman:

And so what!!! was the judgement based on the 2011 documents or that the fool committed the same forgery again 2015??



His election was voided on the basis of the forgery and perjury he committed in the 2015 elections

Dansuqi:


He was always going to present it na.na wao this fellow.

TheGodlessGod:
you can't read i swear. You're only hoping for court to forget about 2016, if only human wishes do come through.

cktheluckyman:


read again.He still submitted forged documents in 2015 and that was why he was booted out

cktheluckyman:



There is nothing the court can do about the 2016 election.That tenure is already over.Unless the APC have anything concrete against Obaseki in the documents submitted for the 2020 elections,the case is over

Agboriotejoye:

And the case was always going to die at that point.

saheedbadmus:
Apc self funny o ... ur gov for 4 yrs .. so because he no dey una party again now , his certificates are fake abi .. even when his schools don confirm say he studied dere ...

fergie001:

Whether the decision of the Court below not to rely on the National Diploma Certificate in Accountancy presented by the 1st Respondent to INEC before 2011, in determining the issue of presentation of forged certificate to INEC before it because the 1st Respondent did not include the said National Diploma Certificate in his INEC Form CF001for 2015 General Election and therefore the 1st Respondent could not be said to have committed forgery, is not wrong in law in view of the provisions of Section 66(1)(i) of the 1999 Constitution (as amended) and the question in Paragraph 6 of Part E of INEC Form CF001for the 2015 General Election
(Encompassing Ground 2 of the Notice of Appeal).

This is Ground 3.
Check the underlined.

Furthermore, the 1st respondent in his INEC Form CF001 for 2015 General Election relating to Educational Institutions attended with dates and Educational Qualifications with dates omitted everything relating to the Federal Polytechnic, Mubi. See page 387 of vol.1 of the record.


The difference HERE is just that UI is affirming Obaseki was a student there unlike "MadLion".

Dansuqi:


No sir.presenting it does not make it original.let the issuing authorities do so in court

cktheluckyman:

This is not a ruling.Quote where the judges ruled on that motion.

UI did not just affirm that he was a student there.They also confirmed that he is their graduate

Agboriotejoye:


Lol. Be patient. It will get to that stage.
Just as presenting that prof's certificate does not make it original too.
The issuing authority has to authenticate both in court.

fergie001:

I don't know how much you know about electoral matters especially as it affects Obaseki.

I sent you a full Supreme Court judgement for a purpose; to read & digest.

EXHIBIT BL
If you send a forged document to INEC in 1990 and it wasn't noticed then, and you remove that document from your materials and contest in 2020; If it is PROVEN by the issuing authority, that what you submitted in 1990 was FORGED, you will be sacked, arrested & prosecuted unless you get a pardon like Salisu Buhari did.

Incase you don't know, I will tell you.
On INEC forms given to any aspirant, there is a column that states;
"Have you ever presented forged documents to INEC" (Yes/No)

Even if you participate in that election and lose.....you still fall under category Exhibit BL above. It is normal for every aspirant to say NO.

Obaseki's Grace here is that UI has said he graduated there, and APC has to prove "beyond every reasonable doubt" that he forged his documents.....a situation I don't see for obvious reasons and have adumbrated since last year.

I have promised myself I intend to deal on new cases here this year.

fergie001:
https://lawcarenigeria.com/hon-hassan-anthony-saleh-v-christian-adabah-abah-ors2017/

cktheluckyman...The full SC judgement.

He submitted in 2011 and didn't in 2015.

Nonetheless, if I follow precedence of our cases so far: Oshiomhole, Ayade, Abiodun, etc.......Oba will leave there in 2024.

Agboriotejoye:


Lol. Be patient. It will get to that stage.
Just as presenting that prof's certificate does not make it original too.
The issuing authority has to authenticate both in court.

fergie001:

I don't know how much you know about electoral matters especially as it affects Obaseki.

I sent you a full Supreme Court judgement for a purpose; to read & digest.

EXHIBIT BL
If you send a forged document to INEC in 1990 and it wasn't noticed then, and you remove that document from your materials and contest in 2020; If it is PROVEN by the issuing authority, that what you submitted in 1990 was FORGED, you will be sacked, arrested & prosecuted unless you get a pardon like Salisu Buhari did.

Incase you don't know, I will tell you.
On INEC forms given to any aspirant, there is a column that states;
"Have you ever presented forged documents to INEC" (Yes/No)

Even if you participate in that election and lose.....you still fall under category Exhibit BL above. It is normal for every aspirant to say NO.

Obaseki's Grace here is that UI has said he graduated there, and APC has to prove "beyond every reasonable doubt" that he forged his documents.....a situation I don't see for obvious reasons and have adumbrated since last year.

I have promised myself I intend to deal on new cases here this year.

cktheluckyman:

I agree with you on arresting and prosecuting someone who commits forgery.The thing however is that Obaseki has immunity as a validly elected Governor.

As long as he was not convicted of forgery before his election as Governor, the election stands and he remains covered by immunity

If UI said he graduated then there is nothing for the APC to prove as their case will die a natural death

BTW there has never been a court ruling convicting Obaseki of having submitted forged documents to INEC before

cktheluckyman:

I agree with you on arresting and prosecuting someone who commits forgery.The thing however is that Obaseki has immunity as a validly elected Governor.

As long as he was not convicted of forgery before his election as Governor, the election stands and he remains covered by immunity

If UI said he graduated then there is nothing for the APC to prove as their case will die a natural death

BTW there has never been a court ruling convicting Obaseki of having submitted forged documents to INEC before

Dansuqi:
.

I repeat,a supreme court sacked a house of reps member in 2015 for submitting forged affidavits in 2011.obaseki case will not be different

He was said to presented a fake National Diploma Certificate in Accountancy upon which he was forced to withdraw from the same race in 2011 but in a dramatic turn, used the same forged certificate to secure PDP ticket in the 2014 PDP primary.
Subsequently, Saleh challenged his nomination.

fergie001:

Election cases are sui generis (i.e in a class of its own).

A Governor, his Deputy, President and Vice-President do not enjoy immunity as enshrined in Section 308 of the 1999 Constitution as amended, when it comes to election cases.

The Supreme Court in Kakih v PDP & 2 Ors., the celebrated case of Saleh v Abah., Maihaja v Geidam., Audu v INEC, Imam v Ali Modu Sherriff and so many other decided authorities have aptly put it that you don't need previous conviction to ascertain forgery when it comes to election cases. (It is in the link I sent you earlier).

All that is needed is a Proof that Mr. A submitted a forged document and the Issuing Authority stamping it as true.

In the case of Saleh v Abah, the Federal Polytechnic, Mubi emphatically said Abah didn't graduate from their school.

Abah argued like you have stated up there that conviction must have been proven but the Supreme Court said NO.

Like I have said, Obaseki's path of glory is the UNIVERSITY OF IBADAN.

engineerboat:


Let Me help YOU



https://thestreetjournal.org/2017/03/no-place-for-certificate-forgers-in-electoral-system-supreme-court/

can you now relate how the two are the same

cktheluckyman:


https://www.nairaland.com/3675833/christian-abah-certificate-forgery-supreme

Just saw the link.Chris Adaba was sacked for presenting forged documents in the 2015 elections and not 2011 elections!!

Sorry bro.You will wait until Obaseki leaves office to try him for forgery

Dansuqi:


Let me add Fct high Court

fergie001:
https://lawcarenigeria.com/hon-hassan-anthony-saleh-v-christian-adabah-abah-ors2017/

cktheluckyman...The full SC judgement.

He submitted in 2011 and didn't in 2015.

Nonetheless, if I follow precedence of our cases so far: Oshiomhole, Ayade, Abiodun, etc.......Oba will leave there in 2024.

The apex court said that the respondent in the case, Abba, who is laying claim to the ticket of PDP for the Federal Constituency must not be allowed to have his way because he has soiled his hand in the certificate forgery.
Abba was said to have forged a certificate purported to have obtained from the Federal Polytechnic, Mubi in Adamawa State.
He was said to presented a fake National Diploma Certificate in Accountancy upon which he was forced to withdraw from the same race in 2011 but in a dramatic turn, used the same forged certificate to secure PDP ticket in the 2014 PDP primary.
Subsequently, Saleh challenged his nomination.

Dansuqi:


Wait till then before rejoicing.dont also forget his forged affidavits

fergie001:

Election cases are sui generis (i.e in a class of its own).

A Governor, his Deputy, President and Vice-President do not enjoy immunity as enshrined in Section 308 of the 1999 Constitution as amended, when it comes to election cases.

The Supreme Court in Kakih v PDP & 2 Ors., the celebrated case of Saleh v Abah., Maihaja v Geidam., Audu v INEC, Imam v Ali Modu Sherriff and so many other decided authorities have aptly put it that you don't need previous conviction to ascertain forgery when it comes to election cases. (It is in the link I sent you earlier).

All that is needed is a Proof that Mr. A submitted a forged document and the Issuing Authority stamping it as true.

In the case of Saleh v Abah, the Federal Polytechnic, Mubi emphatically said Abah didn't graduate from their school.

Abah argued like you have stated up there that conviction must have been proven but the Supreme Court said NO.

Like I have said, Obaseki's path of redemption or damnation is the UNIVERSITY OF IBADAN.

Agboriotejoye:

Which forged affidavits

fergie001:

How?