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|Re: Ikwerre Man Emerges Deputy President General Of Ohanaeze by Tranquill: 4:45pm On Jan 13|
Killed by Ijaws how and why?
|Re: Ikwerre Man Emerges Deputy President General Of Ohanaeze by obehi247(m): 8:51am On Jan 14|
If an individual left Nigeria for the United States of America, does that means he or she are not Nigerians any more
Even if they are now citizens of America, they we still be addressed as Nigeria-America and could even hold cultural and Political position, this does not remove and delete their history completely as Nigerians
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|Re: Ikwerre Man Emerges Deputy President General Of Ohanaeze by chrisxxx(m): 10:26am On Jan 14|
BabaOwen:My brother God bless you. If Ikwerre had got 5 states the same way Igbos have, they would not have been rooted in this argument.
Let me show you a prove of the superiority of Ikwerre Language over what Igbo speaks. Any time an Igbo person tells you Ikwerre people speak Igbo just tell him to give you the Igbo word for "Yes". I tell you it does not exist. As simple as "Yes" does not exixst in Igbo Language but they will say a language that has everything in it was copied from one that is incomplete. SMH.
|Re: Ikwerre Man Emerges Deputy President General Of Ohanaeze by Muna4real(f): 10:32am On Jan 14|
The meaning of Yes in Igbo is on goggle. Go and check it.
|Re: Ikwerre Man Emerges Deputy President General Of Ohanaeze by Tranquill: 11:36am On Jan 14|
At least there is someone here who has acknowledged that the Ikwerres have always maintained their independent identity even before the war unlike many folks who out of ignorance but mostly deliberate mischief, try to peddle lies that, Ikwerre people accepted being Igbo until after the war when they started denying it and with the most ridiculous and imbeci.lic claim that they started adding RUMU and changing the names of their towns and villages after the war.
|Re: Ikwerre Man Emerges Deputy President General Of Ohanaeze by chrisxxx(m): 11:54am On Jan 14|
Kwashiman:You have proven that the ability to read and write is not the only benchmark for literacy. You are are a stark illiterate when it comes to the field of anthropology especially Nigerian people and culture.
The small size of a community does not make it part of a neighbouring bigger community. Of course, their culture and others may be the same. Have you ever thought of, if Ikwerre had got 5 states the same way Igbos have, would you have said Ikwerre is Igbo?
Portuguese and Spanish Languages are similar but that does make Portuguese Spanish despite the size of Portugal.
The culture of Ikwerre and Igbos are similar no doubt. They may be brothers. You are related to someone that does not make that person not even your father.
I have always seen an Igbo person as a brother, same way other Ikwerres do. But we dont see ourselves as Igbos. The Igbos that migrated earlier to Ikwerre land respected this. The whole narration changed when Nnamdi Kanu started to brainwash your types.
We have always lived peacefully with the Igbos, please let this continue.
|Re: Ikwerre Man Emerges Deputy President General Of Ohanaeze by gidgiddy: 2:02pm On Jan 14|
Was it Nnamdi that brainwashed former Governor Chibuike Amaechi, an Ikwerre man, to say he is an Igbo man?
Was it Nnamdi Kanu that brainwashed immediate past Secretary General of Ohanaeze, Uche Okwukwu, and Ikwerre man, to say he is Igbo?
Not all Ikwerres deny being Igbo, some are proud Igbos. Wike said he is not Igbo, but Obi Wali said he is Igbo.
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|Re: Ikwerre Man Emerges Deputy President General Of Ohanaeze by chrisxxx(m): 3:13pm On Jan 14|
gidgiddy:Senator Obi Wali could never have said he was Igbo. Remember, that Senator Obi Wali was among the pioneer members of Ogbakor Ikwerre in 1963. Being Igbo is not a dent. It is a thing of pride being an Igbo person. So do not force it on anyone.
Let me also tell you this, Ikwerre accepts just as Igbos do to claim lineage based on where either of ones parents come from. You could claim Igbo (it is acceptable) if your dad is Ikwerre and mum Igbo. Igbos would welcome such person same way Ikwerres would welcome same.
There is one problem people like you like fanning.
I am happy I am related to the Igbo people. But calling me an Igbo person that is where you missed it. Right from time even when the Igbos were everything and had power then in Eastern Nigeria, Ikwerre people never accpted to be Igbo.
Permit me to educate you further. Some Ikwerres as well would not find it difficult saying they are Igbos. and why? Some Igbos have naturalised in Ikwerre land. We call them the Aros. They are in Elele and Isiokpo mostly. They could not find their ways back to Igbo land. We had no option but to accept them. These set of people and their offspring dont hesitate in saying they are Igbos. Any Ikwerre person that tells you he is Igbo check his background. He is likely an Aro descendant.
|Re: Ikwerre Man Emerges Deputy President General Of Ohanaeze by Kwashiman: 6:15pm On Jan 14|
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Thrash, no point reading all that nonsense.
I'm not your brother and will never be, stop usurping and appropriating my name, culture and language so we can start to separate the corn from its husk. You're Bini go and adopt Bini names and stop dragging Igbos into your identity crisis mess, tomorrow if one Ikwerre man executes a coup in Nigeria like Nzeogwu did in 1966, the rest of Nigeria will call him an Igbo and start to massacre Igbos all over Nigeria. Enough is Enough.
|Re: Ikwerre Man Emerges Deputy President General Of Ohanaeze by chrisxxx(m): 6:47pm On Jan 14|
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Ikwerre man has never left his home to your home. Everyone knows that you are the migrants who move to places to usurp their culture and tradition.
Evidentially you stole my language. As a prove give me the Igbo word for 'Yes'.
Anytime you get that I will continue the argument with you.
|Re: Ikwerre Man Emerges Deputy President General Of Ohanaeze by pazienza(m): 7:21pm On Jan 14|
I'm not aware that Obi Wali ever denounced being Igbo.
In 1963, Ogbakor Ikwerre was no different from Oha Ngwa, Nzuko Arochukwu, Orlu Union, etc.
Every Igbo clan had their individual organization outside Igbo Union before the war, why should Ikwerre be any different?
One day we will get to know the real reason Obi Wali was murdered, time reveals every hidden thing.
Obi wali family in Ikwerreland like Ogbuehi Francis Ellah family in Ogba have continued to refuse to toe the path of Igbo denial just like their parents did.
Even though I remain firmly Ikwerrephobic and believe that every single Ikwerre man in Ohaneze Ndiigbo or any other Igbo gathering should be expelled and disgraced out .
But deep in me, my heart goes out to families like Obi walis and Francis Ellahs in Ikwerre and Ogba. I wonder what would become of them if we shut them off.
It would be cruel I believe. But Igbophobes like you make it increasingly tempting not to consider the plight of these proud Igbo families there.
|Re: Ikwerre Man Emerges Deputy President General Of Ohanaeze by Dedetwo(m): 7:58pm On Jan 14|
Please be educated, Ohanaeze is not any social organization. Ohanaeze is a cultural and traditional organization exclusively for Ndigbo. Being Igbo is the only criterion for admission or acceptance.
|Re: Ikwerre Man Emerges Deputy President General Of Ohanaeze by Dedetwo(m): 8:10pm On Jan 14|
When he became wiser about the so-called Ikwerre people being used for what is buried in the ground, he decided to distance himself from Ogbakor Ikwerre. Senator Obi Wali joined few Ikwerre and Omoku chaps to form Ohanaeze Ndigbo in 1976. You should be mindful that positions in Ohanaeze are not dashed or given to individuals but must be contested. Senator Obi Nwali's son whom has be alleged to have won the position of Vice president in Ohanaeze has long identified himself as Igbo. He once said that he is Ikwerre then Igbo as Ngwa or Wawa person is Igbo.
|Re: Ikwerre Man Emerges Deputy President General Of Ohanaeze by Dedetwo(m): 8:19pm On Jan 14|
Senator Dr. Francis Ellah from Omoku was the original member of the founding fathers of Ohanaeze and if I am not goofy, was the secretary general of the Ohanaeze. I knew his family when my father was a district councilor. His father's name was Chief Isaiah Ellah. Francis or younger siblings fought Nigeria\Biafra as Biafran soldier.
|Re: Ikwerre Man Emerges Deputy President General Of Ohanaeze by chrisxxx(m): 9:08pm On Jan 14|
Dedetwo:Please read about Obi Wali
|Re: Ikwerre Man Emerges Deputy President General Of Ohanaeze by chrisxxx(m): 9:10pm On Jan 14|
Dedetwo:Please read about Obi WALI
|Re: Ikwerre Man Emerges Deputy President General Of Ohanaeze by mekysmart123: 9:33pm On Jan 14|
chrisxxx:There is nothing special about Ogbakor Ikwerre, an Igbo word for that matter. It is the same in every Igboid settings. We have Nzuka Ishiagu, Ogbakor Imo etc. If Ikwerre are actually not Igbo, how come the name of their apex organization is an Igbo word for gatthering of...?
Mind you, Owerri people use the same Ogbakor, for their union.
furthermore, You have the right to assert your ethnicity, but in reality, you are playing a very nasty politics, judging from the result. the Igbo groups in Rivers state is in splinter, and thus lack political prowess, like their counterpart in Delta, that is grouped under Anioma. Oil politics will soon be a thing of the past, and I believe, the bitter politics it attracts.
|Re: Ikwerre Man Emerges Deputy President General Of Ohanaeze by Muna4real(f): 9:50pm On Jan 14|
Just look at your pattern of reasoning. Igbos travel everywhere and migrate to anywhere in the world. If you think that a few percentage of nndigbo you see in ikweree Land Will Make them copy ikweree language, how about other languages of the world since we are everywhere? Is ikweree Land the only place we have migrated to? What about uhrobo,itshekiri, spanish, italian, French, Fulani, Yoruba, swahili, Zulu and All The languages of the world? We should have copied them too right? Mtchew
|Re: Ikwerre Man Emerges Deputy President General Of Ohanaeze by chrisxxx(m): 9:57pm On Jan 14|
mekysmart123:In Delta State there are true Igbos there. In Rivers State no ethnic group see themselves as Igbos not even indigenous Oyigbo.
My language is not Igbo. Please use your education. You might not which language came first. You have advantage to be known with the language based on sheer size. If Ikwerre had got as much States as Igbos have I doubt if you would have said this.
Please be educated. Ikwerre language has a lot of varieties just like Igbo has. If you listen to Ikwerre spoken in Emohua and Ikwerre LGAs it is quite different from that spoken in Obio Akpor Port Harcourt.
|Re: Ikwerre Man Emerges Deputy President General Of Ohanaeze by chrisxxx(m): 9:59pm On Jan 14|
Muna4real:Give me Igbo word for Yes
|Re: Ikwerre Man Emerges Deputy President General Of Ohanaeze by Odingo1: 10:07pm On Jan 14|
chrisxxx:Shame on you, twisting bile, Igbo word for yes is ekwerem, that is where Ikwere name was derived by British when they ask Iwuruoha people to agree so that they use part of Igwuocha( renamed Portharcourt by the British) to build a port, the Iwuruoha people said ekwerem meaning I agree or yes. The British call them Ikwere, that is when Iwuruoha people started answering Ikwere.
Originally Ikwere people are Igbos. If they like they can keep on denying their heritage. All Nigerians laugh at their stupidity and know they are Igbos. Even Oba of Benin they are running to said that there is no Bini history that link Ikwere people to ancient Bini kingdom. Let some Ikwere like Wike keep turning theirselves into a laughing stock.
|Re: Ikwerre Man Emerges Deputy President General Of Ohanaeze by Okwyjesus(m): 10:20pm On Jan 14|
He is busy inviting all prominent lgbos he knew to commission project.
He is decieving himself. We lgbos in Rivers are waiting for him or anybody associated with his party in 2023
|Re: Ikwerre Man Emerges Deputy President General Of Ohanaeze by chrisxxx(m): 10:29pm On Jan 14|
Odingo1:While Igbos are Jews.
|Re: Ikwerre Man Emerges Deputy President General Of Ohanaeze by Odingo1: 10:55pm On Jan 14|
chrisxxx:Igbos have similar Jewish tradition a talk for another day. For some Ikweres their denials of not been Igbos in Nigeria is not holding water because how can a tribe forget their original Bini language and be speaking Igbo and bearing Igbo names. Ijaw, Efik, Ibibios, Itsekiris, Urobo that is surrounded by Igbos all have their language. Some Ikwere people should keep on deceiving theirselves. Igbos don’t give damn about them. What have they achieve in Nigeria and world at large to be tackling the Igbos.
|Re: Ikwerre Man Emerges Deputy President General Of Ohanaeze by chrisxxx(m): 11:07pm On Jan 14|
Odingo1:You don't get it at all and I see it as a water arguing with your type. You called yourselves Igbos. I am called Iwhurnuohna. Your Igbo brother that wrote Port Harcourt agreement in 1918 never saw us as Igbos. You cane with this only when Nnamdi Kanu twerked your brain. No culture is superior to the other same as no ethnic group is superior to the other. I speak a language that you think is yours how do we establish who came first? Don't look at number. Your population might be much doesn't mean you will add me to yours. We have never been under you before now and we can never. Those who identify with you are called nonentities.
|Re: Ikwerre Man Emerges Deputy President General Of Ohanaeze by gidgiddy: 12:23am On Jan 15|
Really? Egbema people are in Imo state(Ohaji-Egbema LGA) and also next door in Rivers state(Egbema-Ndoni LGA). So which Egbema is Igbo and which is not?
Oyigbo, is Ndoki/Asa people, there is Ndoki/Asa next door in Abia(Ukwa LGA). So which Ndoki/Asa is Igbo and which is not?
|Re: Ikwerre Man Emerges Deputy President General Of Ohanaeze by Muna4real(f): 12:24am On Jan 15|
I can remember referring you to goggle but let me save you the stress. Yes in Igbo language is Ehh, Ohh or Ekwerem. It has been so even before your forefathers were begotten . Are you happy now?
|Re: Ikwerre Man Emerges Deputy President General Of Ohanaeze by elmessiahs(m): 12:44am On Jan 15|
I trust ikwereans, they will eat your money. Deputised position is what u gave ur so much loved ikwerre
|Re: Ikwerre Man Emerges Deputy President General Of Ohanaeze by jerryunit48: 1:00am On Jan 15|
Muna4real:Thank you for telling him how to say yes in Igbo , I wanted to say the same thing.
But it Beats my imagination that in 2021 someone is still confused about his identity.
I love Igbo , I am Igbo from Asaba
|Re: Ikwerre Man Emerges Deputy President General Of Ohanaeze by chrisxxx(m): 8:27am On Jan 15|
gidgiddy:Most of these people you mentioned have always denied they are not Igbos. I know too well of the Awara people that is Ohaji. They say it till today that they are related to the Ikwerres and not Igbos.
|Re: Ikwerre Man Emerges Deputy President General Of Ohanaeze by gidgiddy: 9:00am On Jan 15|
No Asa Man , no Ndoki man and Egbema man has ever denied being Igbo. No even the Omumas and and to an extent, the Etches, deny being Igbo.
What many people dont remember is that most of these people were in the old Owerri and Aba provinces. The place called Oyigbo today used to be called Obigbo before it was carved out of Imo state in 1976 and put in Rivers state, then renamed Oyigbo.
Rivers state was created in 1967 by Gowon from land stolen from Aba province, Owerri province, Portharcourt province and Yenagoa province. What makes me laugh are those who suddenly believe that people who were Igbos from time immemorial are no longer Igbos because Rivers state was created
|Re: Ikwerre Man Emerges Deputy President General Of Ohanaeze by chrisxxx(m): 9:33am On Jan 15|
gidgiddy:One mistake you guys make is to agree with the Eastern Region created by Lord Lugard but disagree with Nigeria the same Lugard created. Look at a time for the sake of governing convenience the whole of North was one entity. That did not make everyone there Hausa or Fulani. The same thing also happened to Western Nigeria, Do you know that Delta and Edo were once in Western Nigeria?
Eastern Nigeria was created with Igbos and others. At a time there was realignment. The likes were put together and the unlike separated.
May I asked you who created all these province you mentioned?
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