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America And Canada Not As Advertised by pauljustina(f): 4:33pm On Jan 13
I remember when i was so little i aspire and long to be in the U.S, Canada or U.K. The aspiration was borne out of what i hear, see, and observed from friends, neighbors and TV.
In those days, i would hear story of someone who grew up in Nigeria, travel abroad and is an engineer who lives abroad. I will hear my dad will say "omo lagbaja nie" or "Jide ni yen, omo Brother Odumosu ilu oyinbo lon gbe ni America" meaning: Thats the son of that man, or thats Jide the son of Brother Odumosu who lives abroad in America.


Considering we are of low class economically, those dreams were clear but actualizing it has no path in the dream. Whenever my dad talks about someone he knows, i would try to get close to that person so i could get foreign
phone numbers, so i could tell my friends of low economy class that my uncle or aunt lives abroad and here is his or her number.

Associating with people that comes from
America, Canada and U.K its like the best thing that could ever happen to me those days. Until i finish secondary school and the need to make my dreams come through.. Long story cut short, i found myself in America.


My first day in America was a terrible
experience that i could compare to a girl
brought down to Lagos to work as house-help for a rich man but whose accommodation is restricted to sleep in a big wide living room.

"Wow this is a big house, big parlor, TV, AC, dishes not aluminum bows are used in the kitchen, tiled floor not untiled floor"

Yes she feels exposed cos the house is so cold and no blanket, her cloths used as headrest and i bet you, the first night she will wake before anybody and ask so much questions with herself.. two major thoughts will bugging her, should i run
back to my village or should i stay.. That's the first day experience in America or any part of the world on the first day, depending on how you got there.

[/b]NOT AS ADVERTISED[b]
If you are a director, Dr, Lawyer graduated from Nigeria university, be ready to do laborer's job. You will first start from the ground, like factory work, call center work, group home work, personal care assistance(helping disable
people), work in store for that minimum pay. Your way out of these is to forget what you studied or became in Nigeria and start all over again. Go back for 6month program, 2 years
college or 4 years or take prep exams for
professional like Dr and lawyer will have to go to another 3 years of law schools.

At the end, you can never become the top inyour professional, especially when you have to deal with all kinds of discrimination, racism and accent differentials. Once you start you start
seeing that everything screwed against you... But the naija spirit in you will not want to take
last.. When face with rejection, experience setback, you think about home, friends who are hailing you that your life is better and you are probably
in money, what will be of you if you dont push on. These thoughts are motivation to push on and many of us did.

Then you start thinking about paper, school, work, money and people at home.. your worries become endless all in the name of running away from Nigeria and finding greener pasture or American dream.

At the end.. you will quickly find out that,
America is not as advertised...
The people that suffer most are those that sold their property to get to America, in the believe they will one day build back that house they sold, buy another car and some even take millions in life savings and end up forever broke.


[/b]Perpetual failure: Never to recover[b]
If God wants to punish you, you will get to
America with no paper and go marry akata or have one k-leg with your paper.. That's the beginning of un-ending circular, redundant spirals fall for life. If DHS send you that letter that says your marriage is sham, forget you ever
came to America, just pack your load, run to another country or come back home.. cos you will never win the case with DHS.

If you commit any felonious crime you are gone or even misdemeanor that takes you to jail for 6 months no way for you to get paper. The America don't forget or forgive, just like the internet. Whatever you do from the day you enter their soil is recorded.

You hit woman, deliberately kill any live animals (dog, cat, birds etc)except insects you could end up in jail.
Don't be deceived everyone is indebted
Everyone here are indebted one way or the other.. Credit card debt, house rent or mortgage, car note.. the system is design to reduced lazy people, keep the people indebted so they have no option but go to work.

When you are sick you can't afford not to be at work, when you have emergency you have to show up to work because that source of income could be blocked by your boss when he or she fires you.

If you are pregnant, you have to come to work until maybe a week before delivery and you have to submit doctors note and after delivery you might not have 30days before you return..

[/b]Deception: fake it until you make it[b]

Many of the people you see on Facebook,
Instagram and other social medial acting like they live large, you are likely richer than them if you are in Nigeria with no debt, and have your own house with N1millon naira in your account.

The car they drive its borrowed if they lose two payment the car dealers will come for their car; if they don't pay their mortgage they loose their house. So the life is elusive.

To be continued.....

https://www.naijalogic.com/forums/america-and-canada-not-as-advertised

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Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by Heartbender: 4:43pm On Jan 13
So...are you still there or you came back?

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Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by Ofemmanu1: 4:53pm On Jan 13
Chai, there's no free meal anywhere.

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Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by solmusdesigns: 5:06pm On Jan 13
This is why they don't joke with their money.. except drug dealers and fruadsters

If you swindle them they might get suicidal

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Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by mulero23: 5:37pm On Jan 13
Baba mi thanks for head-ups! TO BE FORE WARNED IS TO BE FORE ARMED! I won't say I did not read this later on.
pauljustina:
I remember when i was so little i aspire and long to be in the U.S, Canada or U.K. The aspiration was borne out of what i hear, see, and observed from friends, neighbors and TV.
In those days, i would hear story of someone who grew up in Nigeria, travel abroad and is an engineer who lives abroad. I will hear my dad will say "omo lagbaja nie" or "Jide ni yen, omo Brother Odumosu ilu oyinbo lon gbe ni America" meaning: Thats the son of that man, or thats Jide the son of Brother Odumosu who lives abroad in America.


Considering we are of low class economically, those dreams were clear but actualizing it has no path in the dream. Whenever my dad talks about someone he knows, i would try to get close to that person so i could get foreign
phone numbers, so i could tell my friends of low economy class that my uncle or aunt lives abroad and here is his or her number.

Associating with people that comes from
America, Canada and U.K its like the best thing that could ever happen to me those days. Until i finish secondary school and the need to make my dreams come through.. Long story cut short, i found myself in America.


My first day in America was a terrible
experience that i could compare to a girl
brought down to Lagos to work as house-help for a rich man but whose accommodation is restricted to sleep in a big wide living room.

"Wow this is a big house, big parlor, TV, AC, dishes not aluminum bows are used in the kitchen, tiled floor not untiled floor"

Yes she feels exposed cos the house is so cold and no blanket, her cloths used as headrest and i bet you, the first night she will wake before anybody and ask so much questions with herself.. two major thoughts will bugging her, should i run
back to my village or should i stay.. That's the first day experience in America or any part of the world on the first day, depending on how you got there.

[/b]NOT AS ADVERTISED[b]
If you are a director, Dr, Lawyer graduated from Nigeria university, be ready to do laborer's job. You will first start from the ground, like factory work, call center work, group home work, personal care assistance(helping disable
people), work in store for that minimum pay. Your way out of these is to forget what you studied or became in Nigeria and start all over again. Go back for 6month program, 2 years
college or 4 years or take prep exams for
professional like Dr and lawyer will have to go to another 3 years of law schools.

At the end, you can never become the top inyour professional, especially when you have to deal with all kinds of discrimination, racism and accent differentials. Once you start you start
seeing that everything screwed against you... But the naija spirit in you will not want to take
last.. When face with rejection, experience setback, you think about home, friends who are hailing you that your life is better and you are probably
in money, what will be of you if you dont push on. These thoughts are motivation to push on and many of us did.

Then you start thinking about paper, school, work, money and people at home.. your worries become endless all in the name of running away from Nigeria and finding greener pasture or American dream.

At the end.. you will quickly find out that,
America is not as advertised...
The people that suffer most are those that sold their property to get to America, in the believe they will one day build back that house they sold, buy another car and some even take millions in life savings and end up forever broke.


[/b]Perpetual failure: Never to recover[b]
If God wants to punish you, you will get to
America with no paper and go marry akata or have one k-leg with your paper.. That's the beginning of un-ending circular, redundant spirals fall for life. If DHS send you that letter that says your marriage is sham, forget you ever
came to America, just pack your load, run to another country or come back home.. cos you will never win the case with DHS.

If you commit any felonious crime you are gone or even misdemeanor that takes you to jail for 6 months no way for you to get paper. The America don't forget or forgive, just like the internet. Whatever you do from the day you enter their soil is recorded.

You hit woman, deliberately kill any live animals (dog, cat, birds etc)except insects you could end up in jail.
Don't be deceived everyone is indebted
Everyone here are indebted one way or the other.. Credit card debt, house rent or mortgage, car note.. the system is design to reduced lazy people, keep the people indebted so they have no option but go to work.

When you are sick you can't afford not to be at work, when you have emergency you have to show up to work because that source of income could be blocked by your boss when he or she fires you.

If you are pregnant, you have to come to work until maybe a week before delivery and you have to submit doctors note and after delivery you might not have 30days before you return..

[/b]Deception: fake it until you make it[b]

Many of the people you see on Facebook,
Instagram and other social medial acting like they live large, you are likely richer than them if you are in Nigeria with no debt, and have your own house with N1millon naira in your account.

The car they drive its borrowed if they lose two payment the car dealers will come for their car; if they don't pay their mortgage they loose their house. So the life is elusive.

To be continued.....

https://www.naijalogic.com/forums/america-and-canada-not-as-advertised

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Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by Xzellentgraphic: 5:48pm On Jan 13
Omo this is an eye opener

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Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by ednut1(m): 6:06pm On Jan 13
They have come again. There are many Nigerian migrants who are doing white collar jobs in canada. Just check LinkedIn. cheesy

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Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by RuudVanNisteroy: 6:23pm On Jan 13
ednut1:
They have come again. There are many Nigerian migrants who are doing white collar jobs in canada. Just check LinkedIn. cheesy
What the OP posted is 100% fact!It takes one to four years to get yourself established, as a new immigrant.

When you arrive in Canada you can only get blue collar jobs such as cashier,bus driver,labourer at warehouse and sales associate jobs that pay minimum or slightly above the minimum wage.

You either have to go back to school for for at least a year or do all your certifications again if you're in accounting,medical,engineering or law field. It pays off in the long-term though and even if your a bus driver your standard of living is better than majority of people in Nigeria.

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Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by RuudVanNisteroy: 6:30pm On Jan 13
Ofemmanu1:
Chai, there's no free meal anywhere.
America and Canada is still a better choice than Nigeria any day. I have lived in Canada for the last 12 years,however, when I went to visit America ion my last two visits is when I realized the reason it is regarded as the greatest country in the world.

Coming back to Nigeria after a long absence is a visit to the prehistoric times. The level of underdevelopment is really appalling and I wonder why I never noticed it throughout my secondary school days.

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Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by damzy88: 6:32pm On Jan 13
RuudVanNisteroy:

What the OP posted is 100% fact!It takes one to four years to get yourself established, as a new immigrant.

When you arrive in Canada you can only get blue collar jobs such as cashier,bus driver,labourer at warehouse and sales associate jobs that pay minimum or slightly above the minimum wage.

You either have to go back to school for for at least a year or do all your certifications again if you're in accounting,medical,engineering or law field. It pays off in the long-term though and even if your a bus driver your standard of living is better than majority of people in Nigeria.
Bro, speak for yourself. Some people have these certifications before landing in Canada and they got solid jobs. You sound like it applies to all.

Cheers!

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Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by RuudVanNisteroy: 6:37pm On Jan 13
damzy88:
Bro, speak for yourself. Some people have these certifications before landing in Canada and they got solid jobs. You sound like it applies to all.

Cheers!
You are referring to the 1% and can check Linkedin if you doubt what I am saying. How do get your CPA certification or licence to practice medicine in Canada when you have never written their professional exams?The road to practice medicine is another 3-4 years for new immigrants. However, for the accounting designation you only have to write the final exam.

You think you can just walk into Shell Canada,Accenture,Microsoft etc when locals that schooled here and have Canadian experience are applying for the same jobs? You only have an edge if you worked for their subsidiaries in Nigeria.

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Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by Ofemmanu1: 6:42pm On Jan 13
RuudVanNisteroy:

America and Canada is still a better choice than Nigeria any day. I have lived in Canada for the last 12 years, but when I went to visit America is when I knew why it is regarded as the greatest country in the world.

Coming back to Nigeria after a long absence is like visit to the prehistoric times. The level of underdevelopment is really appalling and I wonder why I never noticed it throughout my secondary school days.

Those of us stuck in Nigeria ain't seeing the underdevelopment yet.
Instead of burger we eat fufu, instead of fried Chicken and ice cream we take peppered kponmo with igboya.

we dey suffer for Nigeria.

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Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by damzy88: 6:42pm On Jan 13
RuudVanNisteroy:

You are referring to the 1% and can check Linkedin if you doubt what I am saying. How do get your CPA certification or licence to practice medicine in Canada when you have never written their professional exams?The road to practice medicine is another 3-4 years for new immigrants. However, for the accounting designation you only have to write the final exam.
I understand what you're trying to say. Maybe a better word would have been Majority. Once you have ACCA you can easily convert to CPA. I know many IT professionals that didn't really struggle to land a job. In all, migration is not easy and there is nothing bad in doing blue collar job for a while.

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Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by RuudVanNisteroy: 6:45pm On Jan 13
damzy88:
I understand what you're trying to say. Maybe a better word would have been Majority. Once you have ACCA you can easily convert to CPA. I know many IT professionals that didn't really struggle to land a job. In all, migration is not easy and there is nothing bad in doing blue collar job for a while.
I have done blue collar jobs and it is honestly the most depressing thing you can do, when you have the skills and qualifications to get a white collar bob. It is all part of the immigrant hustle as you work your way to a white collar job.

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Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by RuudVanNisteroy: 6:47pm On Jan 13
damzy88:
I understand what you're trying to say. Maybe a better word would have been Majority. Once you have ACCA you can easily convert to CPA. I know many IT professionals that didn't really struggle to land a job. In all, migration is not easy and there is nothing bad in doing blue collar job for a while.
You can convert ACCA to CPA once you pass the Common Final Examination(CFE), you don't have to enrol in all the capstone and core courses.
Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by damzy88: 7:09pm On Jan 13
RuudVanNisteroy:

You can convert ACCA to CPA once you pass the Common Final Examination(CFE), you don't have to enrol in all the capstone and core courses.
I thought you don't need to write the CFE. Was it changed recently?

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Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by ednut1(m): 7:29pm On Jan 13
RuudVanNisteroy:

What the OP posted is 100% fact!It takes one to four years to get yourself established, as a new immigrant.

When you arrive in Canada you can only get blue collar jobs such as cashier,bus driver,labourer at warehouse and sales associate jobs that pay minimum or slightly above the minimum wage.

You either have to go back to school for for at least a year or do all your certifications again if you're in accounting,medical,engineering or law field. It pays off in the long-term though and even if your a bus driver your standard of living is better than majority of people in Nigeria.
you dont know what you are talking about.
Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by ednut1(m): 7:32pm On Jan 13
damzy88:
Bro, speak for yourself. Some people have these certifications before landing in Canada and they got solid jobs. You sound like it applies to all.

Cheers!
true. I dont know what he is talking about grin. I know people that we came together working for companies like jumia, konga, seplat, banks etc that have gotten good jobs
Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by RuudVanNisteroy: 7:45pm On Jan 13
ednut1:
you dont know what you are talking about. I have ican and haven't done acca but i got same job i was doing in Nigeria. Many of my friends too haven't gone back to school or done any courses but are still landing jobs
Sorry, I didn't see ICAN listed in the link

https://www.cpacanada.ca/en/become-a-cpa/international-credential-recognition/international-recognition-agreements/international-members-seeking-canadian-cpa
Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by mulero23: 7:45pm On Jan 13
Bro, please do not go into argument. The one who wears the shoe knows where it pinches. Everyone shall tells their stories. Personal experience is the best!
RuudVanNisteroy:

What the OP posted is 100% fact!It takes one to four years to get yourself established, as a new immigrant.

When you arrive in Canada you can only get blue collar jobs such as cashier,bus driver,labourer at warehouse and sales associate jobs that pay minimum or slightly above the minimum wage.

You either have to go back to school for for at least a year or do all your certifications again if you're in accounting,medical,engineering or law field. It pays off in the long-term though and even if your a bus driver your standard of living is better than majority of people in Nigeria.

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Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by ednut1(m): 7:46pm On Jan 13
RuudVanNisteroy:

Sorry, I didn't see ICAN listed in the link

https://www.cpacanada.ca/en/become-a-cpa/international-credential-recognition/international-recognition-agreements/international-members-seeking-canadian-cpa
thats why i said you dont know what you are talking about. Not accountants will be certified, and you dont need cpa to get some jobs. Simple. People get jobs with only Nigeria qualifications. Keep apply keep improving yourself. E go click one day
Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by RuudVanNisteroy: 7:49pm On Jan 13
damzy88:
I understand what you're trying to say. Maybe a better word would have been Majority. Once you have ACCA you can easily convert to CPA. I know many IT professionals that didn't really struggle to land a job. In all, migration is not easy and there is nothing bad in doing blue collar job for a while.
CPA recently withdrew from the agreement with ACCA

https://www.cpacanada.ca/en/become-a-cpa/international-credential-recognition/international-credential-recognition-mras-and-rmas
Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by sweetmelanin(f): 7:50pm On Jan 13
RuudVanNisteroy:

What the OP posted is 100% fact!It takes one to four years to get yourself established, as a new immigrant.

When you arrive in Canada you can only get blue collar jobs such as cashier,bus driver,labourer at warehouse and sales associate jobs that pay minimum or slightly above the minimum wage.

You either have to go back to school for for at least a year or do all your certifications again if you're in accounting,medical,engineering or law field. It pays off in the long-term though and even if your a bus driver your standard of living is better than majority of people in Nigeria.

These cashiers bus drivers and labourers are living a far more dignified life than even bank marketers in Nigeria. Having a blue collar job abroad should never be a thing to shame people for .. more honourable than being jobless in Nigeria playing bet9ja like millions of youths are doing right now..
@OP enough of shaming hard working people. There is dignity in labour.
Not everyone will make it to the "top" abroad and that's ok as most will never make it in Nigeria either.... Relocating abroad is not a "get rich quick" scheme..

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Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by sweetmelanin(f): 7:55pm On Jan 13
pauljustina:
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If you commit any felonious crime you are gone or even misdemeanor that takes you to jail for 6 months no way for you to get paper. The America don't forget or forgive, just like the internet. Whatever you do from the day you enter their soil is recorded.

You hit woman, deliberately kill any live animals (dog, cat, birds etc)except insects you could end up in jail.
Don't be deceived everyone is indebted
Everyone here are indebted one way or the other.. Credit card debt, house rent or mortgage, car note.. the system is design to reduced lazy people, keep the people indebted so they have no option but go to work.




https://www.naijalogic.com/forums/america-and-canada-not-as-advertised

Nigerians despise law and order, this is why that country is in shambles right now.

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Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by RuudVanNisteroy: 8:05pm On Jan 13
sweetmelanin:


These cashiers bus drivers and labourers are living a far more dignified life than even bank marketers in Nigeria. Having a blue collar job abroad should never be a thing to shame people for .. more honourable than being jobless in Nigeria playing bet9ja like millions of youths are doing right now..
@OP enough of shaming hard working people. There is dignity in labour.
Not everyone will make it to the "top" abroads and that's ok as most will never make it in Nigeria either.... Relocating abroad is not a "get rich quick" scheme..
I am not shaming blue collar jobs, I did several myself. It is a lot of hard work and you earn every cent they pay you for your time.

There are blue collar workers such as plumbers,gas plant operators, truck drivers,welders etc that make more money than white collar workers. However, after a certain age it really takes a physical toll on you.

It was exhausting when I worked blue collar jobs even when I was in my 20's.

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Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by RuudVanNisteroy: 8:09pm On Jan 13
ednut1:
thats why i said you dont know what you are talking about. Not accountants will be certified, and you dont need cpa to get some jobs. Simple. People get jobs with only Nigeria qualifications. Keep apply keep improving yourself. E go click one day
I stated you need to keep improving yourself and getting a CPA is a sure way as an accountant of getting to the top of your profession.

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Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by GayPontiff: 8:12pm On Jan 13
If dem like make dem pay una 50k x 1000 of u dropping reasons no one should travel on daily basis. By 2023 the naija go only be for una... population will drop from 250m to 20m as d naija take bad so now.
Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by RuudVanNisteroy: 8:13pm On Jan 13
GayPontiff:
If dem like make dem pay una 50k x 1000 of u dropping reasons no one should travel on daily base. By 2023 the naija go only be for una... population will drop from 250m to 20m as d naija take bad so now.

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Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by RuudVanNisteroy: 8:14pm On Jan 13
damzy88:
I thought you don't need to write the CFE. Was it changed recently?
I am unable to view the message you sent, due to my email being hacked and not willing to recover it.
Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by RuudVanNisteroy: 8:21pm On Jan 13
sweetmelanin:


Nigerians despise law and order, this is why that country is in shambles right now.
Real talk
Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by oluwatobi43301: 8:30pm On Jan 13
Chai, there's no free meal anywhere.

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