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Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by RuudVanNisteroy: 8:33pm On Jan 13
oluwatobi43301:
Chai, there's no free meal anywhere.
Covid has taken it's toll in Canada when it comes to the employment market as well. I recently lost my professional job of two years.
There is still an abundance of jobs in my field being advertised and had a number of interviews,but the labour market is so competitive right now,that landing a job will take some time.

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Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by ENG0701: 9:06pm On Jan 13
RuudVanNisteroy:

What the OP posted is 100% fact!It takes one to four years to get yourself established, as a new immigrant.

When you arrive in Canada you can only get blue collar jobs such as cashier,bus driver,labourer at warehouse and sales associate jobs that pay minimum or slightly above the minimum wage.

You either have to go back to school for for at least a year or do all your certifications again if you're in accounting,medical,engineering or law field. It pays off in the long-term though and even if your a bus driver your standard of living is better than majority of people in Nigeria.

I think everyone that relocated knows this before relocating. I have some friends that got something in their field immediately, but that is minority.
I am a pharmacist, and I am almost done with my licensing, it takes a year and half. Even a canadian pharmacist or doctor moving to Nigeria will also have to be licensed to practice in Nigeria, it's like that for every professional course.

Expecting to get to Canada and start working immediately in your field is unrealistic. As you said, in the long run, it pays off. Most people end up doing much better than they were in Nigeria after 2 years.

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Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by ENG0701: 9:14pm On Jan 13
RuudVanNisteroy:

Covid has taken it's toll in Canada when it comes to the employment market as well. I recently lost my professional job of two years.
There is still an abundance of jobs in my field being advertised and had a number of interviews,but the labour market is so competitive right now,that landing a job will take some time.

Sorry about that. I'm sure you will get something soon.

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Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by RuudVanNisteroy: 9:26pm On Jan 13
ENG0701:


I think everyone that relocated knows this before relocating. I have some friends that got something in their field immediately, but that is minority.
I am a pharmacist, and I am almost done with my licensing, it takes a year and half. Even a canadian pharmacist or doctor moving to Nigeria will also have to be licensed to practice in Nigeria, it's like that for every professional course.

Expecting to get to Canada and start working immediately in your field is unrealistic. As you said, in the long run, it pays off. Most people end up doing much better than they were in Nigeria after 2 years.
True, the only aspect Nigerians struggle in is relationships, especially the women. A number of them still run back to Lagos to find a husband.
Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by ENG0701: 9:32pm On Jan 13
RuudVanNisteroy:

True, the only aspect Nigerians struggle in is relationships, especially the women. A number of them still run back to Lagos to find a husband.

Yes, that is because statistics is not in their favour. There are less than 100,000 Nigerians in canada, most married. There is a very small pool to choose from and also, Canada is not a very outgoing country so few opportunities to meet people
Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by RuudVanNisteroy: 9:40pm On Jan 13
ENG0701:


Yes, that is because statistics is not in their favour. There are less than 100,000 Nigerians in canada, most married. There is a very small pool to choose from and also, Canada is not a very outgoing country so few opportunities to meet people
Winter keeps us indoor for close to 6 months a year lol. And many Nigerian men are not in a hurry to settle down even after they are well established in their careers.

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Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by ednut1(m): 12:02am On Jan 14
ENG0701:


Yes, that is because statistics is not in their favour. There are less than 100,000 Nigerians in canada, most married. There is a very small pool to choose from and also, Canada is not a very outgoing country so few opportunities to meet people
there are lots of singles 9ja guys. Apparently many of the ladies have unrealistic standards. Na them sabi
Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by RuudVanNisteroy: 12:06am On Jan 14
ednut1:
there are lots of singles 9ja guys. Apparently many of the ladies have unrealistic standards. Na them sabi
I know many single Nigerian women and won't say the standards they have are unrealistic.

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Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by ednut1(m): 12:26am On Jan 14
RuudVanNisteroy:

I know many single Nigerian women and won't say the standards they have are unrealistic.
oya marry one na cheesy
Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by RuudVanNisteroy: 12:47am On Jan 14
ednut1:
oya marry one na cheesy
I am not ready yet.

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Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by zorani(m): 3:01am On Jan 14
The set of Nigerian youths going abroad now are more of over entitled and spoilt kids who all they know is professional job. People that travelled back in the days that made far more money and invested in Nigeria were not this lazy and 'professional job' entitled. What happened to cashing out in the numerous opportunities in these countries, you already have the advantage of having 'hard currency' and easier travelled for those with foreign passport or PR. Stop whining on NL or Twitter, get to work. For those doing blue collar job, keep the good work and think of owning a company that provide a blue collar job/service that you have mastered.

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Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by RuudVanNisteroy: 3:07am On Jan 14
zorani:
The set of Nigerian youths going abroad now are more of over entitled and spoilt kids who all they know is professional job. People that travelled back in the days that made far more money and invested in Nigeria were not this lazy and 'professional job' entitled. What happened to cashing out in the numerous opportunities in these countries, having the advantage of having 'hard currency' and easier travelled for those with foreign passport or PR. Stop whining on NL or Twitter, get to work. For those doing blue collar job, keep the good work and think of winning the company that provide a blue collar job you have mastered.
You are wrong about Nigerian youths being spoilt,entitled and 'professional job" orientated. Majority of youths are looking for side hustles and some have become entreprenuers and quit their jobs after gaining the relevant professional experience, that will help them run their own businesses.

The employment market is unstable and you can lose your job at anytime, and majority have come to realize that working 9-5 everyday for the next 30 to 40 years, with the current state of job insecurity is a dangerous gamble.

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Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by Gerrard59(m): 3:33am On Jan 14
Seems "Mummy Iyabo" and "Mr Bayo" of TwitterNG have camped here. As usual, they never return to Nigeria after so many years neither do their children and if/when they return, they so as dual citizens.

Bunch of wicked and hypocritical set of people.

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Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by int0x80: 3:38am On Jan 14
ednut1:
They have come again. There are many Nigerian migrants who are doing white collar jobs in canada. Just check LinkedIn. cheesy
Don't mind him/her, if you are a failure, you are a failure, even in heaven! Period
Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by Generalkoke: 3:49am On Jan 14
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Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by Generalkoke: 3:51am On Jan 14
RuudVanNisteroy:

I have done blue collar jobs and it is honestly the most depressing thing you can do, when you have the skills and qualifications to get a white collar bob. It is all part of the immigrant hustle as you work your way to a white collar job.
. Boss i just wanna ask if it’s possible to change job/ process P.R after entering Canada through 2years work Permit (TFWP) Temporary foreign worker program
Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by Nobody: 3:57am On Jan 14
RuudVanNisteroy:

America and Canada is still a better choice than Nigeria any day. I have lived in Canada for the last 12 years, but when I went to visit America is when I knew why it is regarded as the greatest country in the world.

Coming back to Nigeria after a long absence is a visit to the prehistoric times. The level of underdevelopment is really appalling and I wonder why I never noticed it throughout my secondary school days.
grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
My Belle don Burst.
The Prehistoric Times got me Laughing.
Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by RuudVanNisteroy: 4:01am On Jan 14
Generalkoke:
. Boss i just wanna ask if it’s possible to change job/ process P.R after entering Canada through 2years work Permit (TFWP) Temporary foreign worker program
I am not sure about all the details and guidelines on how the TFWP program works. I only know previously it was tied to the employer that sponsored you and were unable to change jobs or work for another employer unless when you got your PR. They made a recent change that if you lost your job due to the COVID pandemic with the employer that sponsored you or if they went bankrupt, you were free to find another employer to sponsor you for a closed work permit.

You are free to apply for PR if you meet the requirements and receive an ITA to apply for permanent residency under Provincial nomination,Canadian Experience Class stream and Federal Skilled Trade program.

Hope that answers your question.

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Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by Nobody: 4:12am On Jan 14
ENG0701:


I think everyone that relocated knows this before relocating. I have some friends that got something in their field immediately, but that is minority.
I am a pharmacist, and I am almost done with my licensing, it takes a year and half. Even a canadian pharmacist or doctor moving to Nigeria will also have to be licensed to practice in Nigeria, it's like that for every professional course.

Expecting to get to Canada and start working immediately in your field is unrealistic. As you said, in the long run, it pays off. Most people end up doing much better than they were in Nigeria after 2 years.
You have SENSE.
Remain Blessed.
The LADY has got facts but no matter what she put up, AMERICA is far far better than the entire AFRICA.
I don't know for Canada.
I can only talk about where I reside.
The QUALITY of Life in America is beyond the comprehension of that of an Average Naija man.
All one needs on ARRIVAL is HUMILITY.
I left a High-paying Job/position 4 America because of Armed Robbers in Naija. Dey had my itinerary wit dem.
Else, I was Financially comfortable in Nigeria.
At that point I just needed Peace of Mind.

Going Back to Naija will never never cross my mind not even now that things have gone haywire.

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Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by RuudVanNisteroy: 4:40am On Jan 14
EVILFOREST:

You have SENSE.
Remain Blessed.
The LADY has got facts but no matter what she put up, AMERICA is far far better than the entire AFRICA.
I don't know for Canada.
I can only talk about where I reside.
The QUALITY of Life in America is beyond the comprehension of that of an Average Naija man.
All one needs on ARRIVAL is HUMILITY.
I left a High-paying Job/position 4 America because of Armed Robbers in Naija. Dey had my itinerary wit dem.
Else, I was Financially comfortable in Nigeria.
At that point I just needed Peace of Mind.

Going Back to Naija will never never cross my mind not even now that things have gone haywire.
Insecurity and the failed healthcare system is what honestly scares me about returning. What I and my family members witnessed in that country will take years of healing to recover from. What have we not witnessed from armed robbery,kidnapping and health misdiagnosis.

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Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by Nobody: 4:47am On Jan 14
RuudVanNisteroy:

Insecurity and the failed healthcare system is what honestly scares me about returning. What I and my family members witnessed in that country will take years of healing to recover from. What have we not witnessed from armed robbery,kidnapping and health misdiagnosis.

The CONTENT of NAIJA showed me HELL.
In Fact, the GRUDGE I bear today is courtesy of Naija.
From Recurrent & persistent Robbery 2 Workplace abuses and No hope of getting better at all.
I was roughly on 300k monthly years back when I was processing my papers to leave, but I still left.

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Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by BigDawsNet: 4:59am On Jan 14
I wanna visit Canada soon

And see what's going on over there[right][/right]
Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by LordIsaac(m): 6:36am On Jan 14
If I'm guaranteed some level of security and good health care, ah... I shall gladly remain there. Many have returned home and were killed in "their mother land". Save your life and japa today! grin

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Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by SocialJustice: 6:38am On Jan 14
RuudVanNisteroy:

What the OP posted is 100% fact!It takes one to four years to get yourself established, as a new immigrant.

When you arrive in Canada you can only get blue collar jobs such as cashier,bus driver,labourer at warehouse and sales associate jobs that pay minimum or slightly above the minimum wage.

You either have to go back to school for for at least a year or do all your certifications again if you're in accounting,medical,engineering or law field. It pays off in the long-term though and even if your a bus driver your standard of living is better than majority of people in Nigeria.
Fat lie oooo. Leave people to make their choices. This new habit of discouraging potential travellers is stupid. Mind your business.
Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by Biglittlelois(f): 7:21am On Jan 14
ednut1:
there are lots of singles 9ja guys. Apparently many of the ladies have unrealistic standards. Na them sabi


Bintin laye......hmmm deep


So why aren't you married to any over there? They don't meet your standard? Cos it's not possible for all of them to have same standard.

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Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by RuudVanNisteroy: 8:05am On Jan 14
SocialJustice:
Fat lie oooo. Leave people to make their choices. This new habit of discouraging potential travellers is stupid. Mind your business.
I have advised all my friends to do anything legally to escape the failed state for the sake of their children. As long as we have the current clowns ruling at local,state and federal level, the country is in for a rough ride as the population rockets towards 400 million people over the next two decades.

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Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by SocialJustice: 8:25am On Jan 14
RuudVanNisteroy:

I have advised all my friends to do anything legally to escape the failed state for the sake of their children. As long as we have the current clowns ruling at local,state and federal level, the country is in for a rough ride as the population rockets towards 400 million people over the next two decades.
As in, the kids are the most important, if you're not doing it for yourself, do it for them.

As for me I am doing it for myself and them. I can't wait for the day my legs will touch foreign soil. Eternal bye bye to Nigeria.

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Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by Ndoki85(m): 8:51am On Jan 14
pauljustina:
I remember when i was so little i aspire and long to be in the U.S, Canada or U.K. The aspiration was borne out of what i hear, see, and observed from friends, neighbors and TV.
In those days, i would hear story of someone who grew up in Nigeria, travel abroad and is an engineer who lives abroad. I will hear my dad will say "omo lagbaja nie" or "Jide ni yen, omo Brother Odumosu ilu oyinbo lon gbe ni America" meaning: Thats the son of that man, or thats Jide the son of Brother Odumosu who lives abroad in America.


Considering we are of low class economically, those dreams were clear but actualizing it has no path in the dream. Whenever my dad talks about someone he knows, i would try to get close to that person so i could get foreign
phone numbers, so i could tell my friends of low economy class that my uncle or aunt lives abroad and here is his or her number.

Associating with people that comes from
America, Canada and U.K its like the best thing that could ever happen to me those days. Until i finish secondary school and the need to make my dreams come through.. Long story cut short, i found myself in America.


My first day in America was a terrible
experience that i could compare to a girl
brought down to Lagos to work as house-help for a rich man but whose accommodation is restricted to sleep in a big wide living room.

"Wow this is a big house, big parlor, TV, AC, dishes not aluminum bows are used in the kitchen, tiled floor not untiled floor"

Yes she feels exposed cos the house is so cold and no blanket, her cloths used as headrest and i bet you, the first night she will wake before anybody and ask so much questions with herself.. two major thoughts will bugging her, should i run
back to my village or should i stay.. That's the first day experience in America or any part of the world on the first day, depending on how you got there.

[/b]NOT AS ADVERTISED[b]
If you are a director, Dr, Lawyer graduated from Nigeria university, be ready to do laborer's job. You will first start from the ground, like factory work, call center work, group home work, personal care assistance(helping disable
people), work in store for that minimum pay. Your way out of these is to forget what you studied or became in Nigeria and start all over again. Go back for 6month program, 2 years
college or 4 years or take prep exams for
professional like Dr and lawyer will have to go to another 3 years of law schools.

At the end, you can never become the top inyour professional, especially when you have to deal with all kinds of discrimination, racism and accent differentials. Once you start you start
seeing that everything screwed against you... But the naija spirit in you will not want to take
last.. When face with rejection, experience setback, you think about home, friends who are hailing you that your life is better and you are probably
in money, what will be of you if you dont push on. These thoughts are motivation to push on and many of us did.

Then you start thinking about paper, school, work, money and people at home.. your worries become endless all in the name of running away from Nigeria and finding greener pasture or American dream.

At the end.. you will quickly find out that,
America is not as advertised...
The people that suffer most are those that sold their property to get to America, in the believe they will one day build back that house they sold, buy another car and some even take millions in life savings and end up forever broke.


[/b]Perpetual failure: Never to recover[b]
If God wants to punish you, you will get to
America with no paper and go marry akata or have one k-leg with your paper.. That's the beginning of un-ending circular, redundant spirals fall for life. If DHS send you that letter that says your marriage is sham, forget you ever
came to America, just pack your load, run to another country or come back home.. cos you will never win the case with DHS.

If you commit any felonious crime you are gone or even misdemeanor that takes you to jail for 6 months no way for you to get paper. The America don't forget or forgive, just like the internet. Whatever you do from the day you enter their soil is recorded.

You hit woman, deliberately kill any live animals (dog, cat, birds etc)except insects you could end up in jail.
Don't be deceived everyone is indebted
Everyone here are indebted one way or the other.. Credit card debt, house rent or mortgage, car note.. the system is design to reduced lazy people, keep the people indebted so they have no option but go to work.

When you are sick you can't afford not to be at work, when you have emergency you have to show up to work because that source of income could be blocked by your boss when he or she fires you.

If you are pregnant, you have to come to work until maybe a week before delivery and you have to submit doctors note and after delivery you might not have 30days before you return..

[/b]Deception: fake it until you make it[b]

Many of the people you see on Facebook,
Instagram and other social medial acting like they live large, you are likely richer than them if you are in Nigeria with no debt, and have your own house with N1millon naira in your account.

The car they drive its borrowed if they lose two payment the car dealers will come for their car; if they don't pay their mortgage they loose their house. So the life is elusive.

To be continued.....

https://www.naijalogic.com/forums/america-and-canada-not-as-advertised
Nonsense write-up
Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by Pedro906(m): 10:26am On Jan 14
[quote author=RuudVanNisteroy post=98027929]
I am not shaming blue collar jobs, I did several myself. It is a lot of hard work and you earn every cent they pay you for your time.

There are blue collar workers such as plumbers,gas plant operators, truck drivers,welders etc that make more money than white collar workers. However, after a certain age it really takes a physical toll on you.

It was exhausting when I worked blue collar jobs even when I was in my 20's.Can i PM you sir?
Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by uthlaw(m): 11:26am On Jan 14
I just don't know why I love UK....my dream country!

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Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by mjconcept(m): 11:40am On Jan 14
I have read so many stories about the hype in migrating to first world countries, and after careful observation both online and offline, I can deduce there are 4 kind of people who write/preach such stories;

1. Those who traveled illegally.

2. Those who think travelling abroad is a get rich quick venture.

3. Those who came from a privileged family.

4. Village people who seek to keep you perpetually poor and backwards.

Travelling to a first world country is a good way out of poverty if you're educated and not from a privileged family. Also, do not attempt to japa through illegal means and remove your mind from hitting a jackpot in 6 months after arrival. If you can heed to this advice, you are sure of getting the best out of life abroad.

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Re: America And Canada Not As Advertised by bigglenn12(m): 1:16pm On Jan 14
Summary..... if you can study abroad go asap,this is because Nigerian education system is as good as dead. You can not study in naija and automatically become a skilled worker overseas without first doing a program or a professional course over here. Imagine studying from primary school to tertiary school in Nigeria in English languages and at the end you are been told to go and write English proficiency. This is why all the politicians in Nigeria will never allow their children to study in naija.




pauljustina:
I remember when i was so little i aspire and long to be in the U.S, Canada or U.K. The aspiration was borne out of what i hear, see, and observed from friends, neighbors and TV.
In those days, i would hear story of someone who grew up in Nigeria, travel abroad and is an engineer who lives abroad. I will hear my dad will say "omo lagbaja nie" or "Jide ni yen, omo Brother Odumosu ilu oyinbo lon gbe ni America" meaning: Thats the son of that man, or thats Jide the son of Brother Odumosu who lives abroad in America.


Considering we are of low class economically, those dreams were clear but actualizing it has no path in the dream. Whenever my dad talks about someone he knows, i would try to get close to that person so i could get foreign
phone numbers, so i could tell my friends of low economy class that my uncle or aunt lives abroad and here is his or her number.

Associating with people that comes from
America, Canada and U.K its like the best thing that could ever happen to me those days. Until i finish secondary school and the need to make my dreams come through.. Long story cut short, i found myself in America.


My first day in America was a terrible
experience that i could compare to a girl
brought down to Lagos to work as house-help for a rich man but whose accommodation is restricted to sleep in a big wide living room.

"Wow this is a big house, big parlor, TV, AC, dishes not aluminum bows are used in the kitchen, tiled floor not untiled floor"

Yes she feels exposed cos the house is so cold and no blanket, her cloths used as headrest and i bet you, the first night she will wake before anybody and ask so much questions with herself.. two major thoughts will bugging her, should i run
back to my village or should i stay.. That's the first day experience in America or any part of the world on the first day, depending on how you got there.

[/b]NOT AS ADVERTISED[b]
If you are a director, Dr, Lawyer graduated from Nigeria university, be ready to do laborer's job. You will first start from the ground, like factory work, call center work, group home work, personal care assistance(helping disable
people), work in store for that minimum pay. Your way out of these is to forget what you studied or became in Nigeria and start all over again. Go back for 6month program, 2 years
college or 4 years or take prep exams for
professional like Dr and lawyer will have to go to another 3 years of law schools.

At the end, you can never become the top inyour professional, especially when you have to deal with all kinds of discrimination, racism and accent differentials. Once you start you start
seeing that everything screwed against you... But the naija spirit in you will not want to take
last.. When face with rejection, experience setback, you think about home, friends who are hailing you that your life is better and you are probably
in money, what will be of you if you dont push on. These thoughts are motivation to push on and many of us did.

Then you start thinking about paper, school, work, money and people at home.. your worries become endless all in the name of running away from Nigeria and finding greener pasture or American dream.

At the end.. you will quickly find out that,
America is not as advertised...
The people that suffer most are those that sold their property to get to America, in the believe they will one day build back that house they sold, buy another car and some even take millions in life savings and end up forever broke.


[/b]Perpetual failure: Never to recover[b]
If God wants to punish you, you will get to
America with no paper and go marry akata or have one k-leg with your paper.. That's the beginning of un-ending circular, redundant spirals fall for life. If DHS send you that letter that says your marriage is sham, forget you ever
came to America, just pack your load, run to another country or come back home.. cos you will never win the case with DHS.

If you commit any felonious crime you are gone or even misdemeanor that takes you to jail for 6 months no way for you to get paper. The America don't forget or forgive, just like the internet. Whatever you do from the day you enter their soil is recorded.

You hit woman, deliberately kill any live animals (dog, cat, birds etc)except insects you could end up in jail.
Don't be deceived everyone is indebted
Everyone here are indebted one way or the other.. Credit card debt, house rent or mortgage, car note.. the system is design to reduced lazy people, keep the people indebted so they have no option but go to work.

When you are sick you can't afford not to be at work, when you have emergency you have to show up to work because that source of income could be blocked by your boss when he or she fires you.

If you are pregnant, you have to come to work until maybe a week before delivery and you have to submit doctors note and after delivery you might not have 30days before you return..

[/b]Deception: fake it until you make it[b]

Many of the people you see on Facebook,
Instagram and other social medial acting like they live large, you are likely richer than them if you are in Nigeria with no debt, and have your own house with N1millon naira in your account.

The car they drive its borrowed if they lose two payment the car dealers will come for their car; if they don't pay their mortgage they loose their house. So the life is elusive.

To be continued.....

https://www.naijalogic.com/forums/america-and-canada-not-as-advertised

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